Re: Dispatch Center access

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Scott!

On Friday, June 22, 2001 at 6:13:38 AM you wrote:

>   I have looked in Help, the unnoficial FAQ, and the Keyboard
>   shortcuts list. I can't find any mention of it.

Look in the Account menu and you will see.



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Dispatch Center access

[Scott Frederick]

Hello TBUDL,

  How do you access the Dispatch Center (I think that is what it is
  called)? The thing that allows you to delete or otherwise handle
  messages on the server before downloading.

  I have looked in Help, the unnoficial FAQ, and the Keyboard
  shortcuts list. I can't find any mention of it.

  I have accidentally opened it, but I don't know how I did it
  (keyboard fumble probably).

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Re: TB! V1.53bis - virus report

[Thomas F]

Hi Jan,

On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 09:37:47 -0400GMT (21/06/2001, 21:37 +0800GMT),
Jan Rifkinson wrote:

Thomas>> In order to stop this error message from occurring and the PC-Cillin
Thomas>> warning to pop up, you need to delete the message direclty on the
Thomas>> server. You can do it with TB's own message despatcher [...]

JR>   I remember there was a way to do this within TB! but I've forgotten
JR>   how. Can you help me with instructions, please. TIA

Account / Despatch Mail on Server / All Messages.

Untick "receive" and tick "delete" for the offending message, and then
proceed.

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Re[2]: What I am waiting for from TheBat! ... Soft Returns in the Editor

[name4anand]

> nen> I don't want to have to use a blank line every time I want to
> nen> have a short line. Am I mistaken or is there some way around
> nen> that? I tried the 1.53bis version just now and it is the same
> nen> with Auto-Format as TheBat! has been since that feature came out
> nen> I believe.
> 
> nen> So Auto-Format to me is worse than without it.
> 
> Ctrl-Shift-F toggles it on and off. I leave it off and toggle it on
> when I want to use it.

Better than nothing, but that's a kludge fix really, not a solution.

> nen> I will agree that TheBat!'s editor has a lot going for it. The
> nen> Alt-L feature that rewraps quoted material correctly is
> nen> brilliant, I love it. I just don't want to have to use it, it
> nen> should be automatic.
> 
> I *completely* disagree. Some long lines are long for a *reason*. For
> instance, they contain URLs or regular expression macros. I want
> complete control over which lines wrap and which lines don't.

Well, good point.  I would like to have the option to at least be able
to set it as automatic though.  Far, far more times I will want my
quoted material rewrapped than not.   And it would be rather easy to
build in url-removal from wrapping and even short line-removal so lists
and such are kept in order (though the definition of a short line would
be troublesome). That stuff is easy, which is sort of why I am a bit
boggled that it hasn't been implemented when so many more difficult
things have been.

> nen> I think it would be so much better if the editor:
> 
> nen> a. included an option to make all use of the 'enter' key
> nen> translate to a hard return and all other line breaks equal soft
> nen> returns. That way you can have your forced text breaks but still
> nen> be able to have that 'auto-format' type of wrapping while
> nen> editing.
> 
> Agreed and, hopefully, the planned rewrite of the editor will include
> that functionality. It needn't be optional either.

When that is implemented, I will be first in line to buy TheBat!

> nen> b. wrapped quoted material in a reply (but we already agree this
> nen> would be a nice feature and hopefully implemented soon.) I would
> nen> hope that the macro gets put in as the standard reply format so I
> nen> can recommend TB! to friends who don't want to mess around with
> nen> the client much. :)
> 
> Hmmm... we'll see. I wouldn't like it to be the default because of the
> fact that "quotes" should (by default) be a representation of what was
> said in the same format.

I see what you mean.  I would probably judge that your average user
would much rather have it wrapped than not, so a default setting of
wrapped would be useful in selling TheBat! to people trying out a demo,
but a simple checkbox option would remove that feature for those who
want the quoted material to be truly accurate.

And if it wasn't the default, then a simple checkbox option to enable it
would be the best bet.  Either way would be fine with me, but I think
the former would sell more licenses.

> nen> And no, I am not some OE user who wants the world to conform to
> nen> the popular standard. I don't like OE.
> 
> I'm glad to hear it. (I can see you're a Becky user anyway).

Only for a few more days.  I was in the process of getting ready to port
over to Mozilla, but I may try TheBat! again to see if I can get used to
the Ctrl-Shift-F usage for turning the Auto-Format on and off.  I
generally dislike Alt/Ctrl/etc commands that I would have to use a lot. 

> Well, good luck with the search. Thanks for your input and sharing
> your views with us here. Hopefully we will see some of these
> improvements in forthcoming versions.

Agreed.  If I knew the Enter=Hard Return feature would be implemented
soon, I'd get TB! now probably.

Thanks.

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Re: Password problem!

[Vincent - D. Ertner]

Hi,



> Been playing with account and group passwords to
> understand how to best configure multiple users on a
> single computer. I then reset the primary account (which
> seems to act as the administrator, although I couldn't
> find this documented) by deleting the entries in "set
> account password". Now, however, I am _always_ prompted
> for a password when starting TB. (It's null so I don't
> enter anything in the password field.) There are no
> passwords on the other two accounts, and I've deleted the
> only Group and it's password. How do I get back to an
> unprompted mode?? Also, is there a way to "logoff" the
> current user without terminating TB?

I worked around this problem by reinstalling the admin
account, assigning the admin to another user and deleting it
again ...

Cheers,

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Re[2]: Out of Resources Message Error

[Igbar Foosenhopper]

Hello Markus,

goto www.iarsn.com and download taskinfo 2000 (i think that is what it
is called.)  this will show you virtually verything  on your system ..

Thursday, June 21, 2001, 8:20:45 AM, you wrote:

MG>There must be some application
MG> running that is really GDI hungry. Anybody know how I can find the
MG> culprit?




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Re: Out of Resources Message Error

[Devid Verfaillie]

Hello TBUDL,

On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:55:39 +0100 (which was 18:55:39 in
Brussels) andrew wrote:

LG>> Under Windows 2000, you can use the 'Task Manager' for
LG>> that. In the View menu you can choose which columns to
LG>> show, and one possibility is to display the number of used
LG>> GDI objects. But I have never worked with NT 4, so I don't
LG>> know anything about the task manager there. But I guess it
LG>> should be pretty similar.

> win98 suggestions anyone?

The Win9x/ME Task Manager from Coral Software might work, see
http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-10106-100-5728379.html.
Never tried it though...

HTH

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Re: Out of Resources Message Error

[Lars Geiger]

Hi David,
On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, at 21:11:38 +0200 you wrote:

DvZ> It's not Marcus having the problem but Daniel Morton. ;-)

Agreed, Daniel started the thread. But have a look at Marcus' message,
message ID <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. There he says

MG> I'm also running in this quite frequently

In his signature you can read what OS he is using (NT 4). And that was
the message I directly replied to. Otherwise it would thread in right
under Daniel's message and not under Marcus'. And now, please let us
stop arguing about who said what and concentrate on some more important
things.

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Re: Out of Resources Message Error

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Hello Lars,

On Thursday, June 21, 2001 at 20:52:39 +0200, Lars Geiger [LG] wrote
concerning 'Out of Resources Message Error':

SS>> The problem is that you never get this type of error on Win NT:)

LG> Are you sure? :-) I know the differences between the Microsoft
LG> OS's, but have a look at the bottom of Marcus' original message
LG> where he asks for help on this problem. He *is* in fact using NT.

It's not Marcus having the problem but Daniel Morton. ;-)

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Re[3]: Out of Resources Message Error

[Jernej Simončič]

Hello andrew,

21. junij 2001, 18:55:39, you wrote:

> Hi Lars,

>  On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, at 17:37:29 [GMT +0200] (which was 16:37 in London) you wrote:

LG>> Under Windows 2000, you can use the 'Task Manager' for that. In the View
LG>> menu you can choose which columns to show, and one possibility is to
LG>> display the number of used GDI objects. But I have never worked with NT
LG>> 4, so I don't know anything about the task manager there. But I guess it
LG>> should be pretty similar.

> win98 suggestions anyone?

You can get programs which show, how much resources do you have... But
I don't know about programs which would show resource usage
per-program.

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Re: Out of Resources Message Error

[Lars Geiger]

Hi Serge,
On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, at 20:54:11 +0300 you wrote:

SS> The problem is that you never get this type of error on Win NT:)

Are you sure? :-) I know the differences between the Microsoft OS's, but
have a look at the bottom of Marcus' original message where he asks for
help on this problem. He *is* in fact using NT.

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Re[2]: Out of Resources Message Error

[Jernej Simončič]

Hello David,

21. junij 2001, 18:46:40, you wrote:

> I know ICQ uses a lot of GDI resources, so I don't know if Daniel is
> running ICQ when using TB!? On my system ICQ eats about 1300 GDI
> objects, while TB! and IE only use 400.

I don't think ICQ should be a problem, unless he has very little
memory. I'm running ICQ all the time I'm connected to the Internet,
and no program ever ran out of resources. (And I'm not running just
ICQ when I'm connected).

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Re[2]: Out of Resources Message Error

[syv]

On Thursday, June 21, 2001 , David van Zuijlekom wrote the following
in regards to: [Out of Resources Message Error]

In Windows 95, GDI has 64k for displaying and managing the screens,
all the screens.

In W98, this was increased to 128k.

This is shared memory by all the program that display anything on the
video out.

The more programs opened the more memory used.
The more fonts used on the screen the more memory used.
The more "custom display" > panel > Display > Appearance the more
memory used

This seems to be have been significantly enlarged [to 1Meg I seem to
remember] under Windows 2000

.

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DvZ> Hello Daniel,

DvZ> On Thursday, June 21, 2001 at 16:19:12 +0200, Daniel Morton [DM] wrote
DvZ> concerning 'Out of Resources Message Error':

DM>> Every so often I get message error in bat in the middle of the screen
DM>> that say Canvas Error and other similar messages. I appreciate my
DM>> computer might be low on resources but my other programs manage to
DM>> cope. Any suggestions? thanks.

DvZ> I think it has something to do with the number of GDI Objects
DvZ> available. You have give us some more information about your system.

DvZ> 1. How many Ram do you have? (I mean from your computer not your brain)
DvZ> 2. How big is the pagefile?
DvZ> 3. What kind of OS are you running?

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Re[2]: Out of Resources Message Error

[andrew]

Hi Lars,

 On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, at 17:37:29 [GMT +0200] (which was 16:37 in London) you wrote:

LG> Under Windows 2000, you can use the 'Task Manager' for that. In the View
LG> menu you can choose which columns to show, and one possibility is to
LG> display the number of used GDI objects. But I have never worked with NT
LG> 4, so I don't know anything about the task manager there. But I guess it
LG> should be pretty similar.

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Re[2]: Out of Resources Message Error

[Serge Skorokhodov]

Hello Lars,

Thursday, June 21, 2001, 6:37:29 PM, you wrote:

> Hi Markus,
> On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, at 17:20:45 +0200 you wrote:

MG>> There must be some application running that is really GDI hungry.
MG>> Anybody know how I can find the culprit?

> Under Windows 2000, you can use the 'Task Manager' for that. In the View
> menu you can choose which columns to show, and one possibility is to
> display the number of used GDI objects. But I have never worked with NT
> 4, so I don't know anything about the task manager there. But I guess it
> should be pretty similar.

The problem is that you never get this type of error on Win NT:)
It's typical for Win9x as they use old 16-bit GDI and User
modules:( with limited to 64 k amount of memory for all graphical
objects and Windows' internal data. It is not just GDI who causes
this type of messages. The module 'User' that manages windows,
borders, buttons etc. can easily ran out of memory as well.

Don't use big colorfull wallpapers, active desktop features and
background apps in system tray (at least get rid of those you
don't actually need) -- they all 'eat' memory in surprising
quantities:( Or migrate to NT-family OS (depending on the age of
your computer NT4 or w2k could be the choice).

The problem frequently is not just lack of GDI or User memory but
rather applications that do not release resources correctly.
There are various utilities for memory allocation control just
look up in the Net. They can improve Windows' resource management
at least to some extent.

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Re: Out of Resources Message Error

[David van Zuijlekom]

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Hello Markus,

On Thursday, June 21, 2001 at 17:20:45 +0200, Markus Gloede [MG] wrote
concerning 'Out of Resources Message Error':

MG> That's GDI (Graphical Device Interface) resources. I'm also running in
MG> this quite frequently and sometimes it gets that bad that I have
MG> fireworks on my screen (buttons, menus, other elements go wild). Sadly
MG> there appears no way to fight this. There must be some application
MG> running that is really GDI hungry. Anybody know how I can find the
MG> culprit?

I know ICQ uses a lot of GDI resources, so I don't know if Daniel is
running ICQ when using TB!? On my system ICQ eats about 1300 GDI
objects, while TB! and IE only use 400.

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Re: Out of Resources Message Error

[Lars Geiger]

Hi Markus,
On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, at 17:20:45 +0200 you wrote:

MG> There must be some application running that is really GDI hungry.
MG> Anybody know how I can find the culprit?

Under Windows 2000, you can use the 'Task Manager' for that. In the View
menu you can choose which columns to show, and one possibility is to
display the number of used GDI objects. But I have never worked with NT
4, so I don't know anything about the task manager there. But I guess it
should be pretty similar.

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Re: Out of Resources Message Error

[Markus Gloede]

Hi,

Daniel Morton wrote:

> Every so often I get message error in bat in the middle of the screen
> that say Canvas Error and other similar messages. I appreciate my
> computer might be low on resources but my other programs manage to
> cope. Any suggestions? 

That's GDI (Graphical Device Interface) resources. I'm also running in
this quite frequently and sometimes it gets that bad that I have
fireworks on my screen (buttons, menus, other elements go wild). Sadly
there appears no way to fight this. There must be some application
running that is really GDI hungry. Anybody know how I can find the
culprit?

Regards,

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Re: Out of Resources Message Error

[David van Zuijlekom]

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Hello Daniel,

On Thursday, June 21, 2001 at 16:19:12 +0200, Daniel Morton [DM] wrote
concerning 'Out of Resources Message Error':

DM> Every so often I get message error in bat in the middle of the screen
DM> that say Canvas Error and other similar messages. I appreciate my
DM> computer might be low on resources but my other programs manage to
DM> cope. Any suggestions? thanks.

I think it has something to do with the number of GDI Objects
available. You have give us some more information about your system.

1. How many Ram do you have? (I mean from your computer not your brain)
2. How big is the pagefile?
3. What kind of OS are you running?

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Re: Out of Resources Message Error

[andrew]

Hi Daniel,

 On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, at 16:19:12 [GMT +0200] (which was 15:19 in London) you wrote:

DM> Every so often I get message error in bat in the middle of the screen
DM> that say Canvas Error and other similar messages. I appreciate my
DM> computer might be low on resources but my other programs manage to
DM> cope. Any suggestions? thanks.


I used to get that but since upgrading it doesn't happen anymore.

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Out of Resources Message Error

[Daniel Morton]

Dear TBUDL,

Every so often I get message error in bat in the middle of the screen
that say Canvas Error and other similar messages. I appreciate my
computer might be low on resources but my other programs manage to
cope. Any suggestions? thanks.

Best regards,
Daniel 

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Re: quick search question

[Marek Mikus]

On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Jonathan Wayne wrote:

> When typing in text, the quick search dialog (which seems to be undocumented)
> comes up.  Is there a way to go to the next match (i.e., a find next) using
> quick search?
>

Yes - Ctrl+Enter.

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Re[2]: TB! V1.53bis - virus report

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hi Marck,

On Wednesday, June 20, 2001 02:46:15 [ +0100 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'TB! V1.53bis - virus report':

JR>> 18:50:42,C:\DOCUME~1\ADMINI~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\bat157.tmp,PE_Magistr.A,Unable
JR>> to clean. Infected file was quarantined.,Administrator,Real-time Scan

JR>>   Any guidance?

Marck> 1) You're safe. 

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Re[2]: TB! V1.53bis - virus report

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hello Thomas, Thanks for your help.

On Thursday, June 21, 2001 12:43:55 [ +0800 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'TB! V1.53bis - virus report':

Thomas> In order to stop this error message from occurring and the PC-Cillin
Thomas> warning to pop up, you need to delete the message direclty on the
Thomas> server. You can do it with TB's own message despatcher [...]

  I remember there was a way to do this within TB! but I've forgotten
  how. Can you help me with instructions, please. TIA

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Re: MailTicker not showing up

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Allie!

On Thursday, June 21, 2001 at 1:48:10 PM you wrote:

> The ones of particular interest would be the ones that you have
> running at all times.

As I wrote, there is *no* common denominator for the systems I
encountered the problem on except for Windows9x (once 98, once 95,
once - my home computer - 95c), TB! and Opera.

On all machines IE was/is present, in two cases not or only
sporadically (my machine) used. Only on my machine are PowerToys
installed and some of them used. Only on my machine the font smoother
W95gray.exe.

This way we may some day find the culprit ... I hope ... ;-).




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quick search question

[Jonathan Wayne]

When typing in text, the quick search dialog (which seems to be undocumented)
comes up.  Is there a way to go to the next match (i.e., a find next) using
quick search?

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Password problem!

[Jonathan Wayne]

Been playing with account and group passwords to understand how to best
configure multiple users on  a single computer.  I then reset the primary
account (which seems to act as the administrator,  although I couldn't find this
documented) by deleting the entries in "set account password".  Now,
however, I am _always_ prompted for a password when starting TB.  (It's null so
I don't enter anything in the password field.) There are no passwords
on the other two accounts, and I've deleted the only Group and it's password.
How do I get back to an unprompted mode??

Also, is there a way to "logoff" the current user without terminating TB?

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Re: MailTicker not showing up

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On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:40:10 +0200, Dierk thoughtfully wrote the
following:
...
DH> I'd be glad if it was that easy. But what I do run on my machine, did
DH> for good reasons not run on the agency machines. I only installed
DH> Opera and TB! as my own software. The were open sometimes but not
DH> always at the same time.

I'm not saying that you should stop using any of your vital apps. I'm
saying that disabling or closing them systematically to see if one is
causing a problem interaction is all. Just in a effort to try to
illucidate the problem. The ones of particular interest would be the ones
that you have running at all times.

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Re: MailTicker not showing up

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Hello Allie!

On Thursday, June 21, 2001 at 1:12:46 PM you wrote:

> Application interaction is my thinking on the matter. I've had application
> interactions cause some interesting things. I can't run WindowBlinds
> anymore because it makes PowerPro do strange things. I preferred
> functionality to appearance and canned WindowBlinds. It took me a while to
> discover what the problem was.

I'd be glad if it was that easy. But what I do run on my machine, did
for good reasons not run on the agency machines. I only installed
Opera and TB! as my own software. The were open sometimes but not
always at the same time.

Just for info:

 F-Secure
 CAPI control
 Multiple Clipboards
 Active Notes
 TitleTime
 DeskMenu
 PGPTray (6.5.8ckt06)
 QuickRes
 FreeMem Pro
 Automachron
 GetRight
 Guillemot's MaxiStudio ISIS Manager (till yesterday and again,
 when my new card is back)

Instead of MS's PowerToy QuickRes I'd like to use the much more
versatile software from Matrox, but with one of the updates of drivers
and software it intended not to work, so I ditched it.



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Re: MailTicker not showing up

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On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:16:01 +0200, Dierk wrote these words of wisdom:

...
>> Unless this graphics card is not comptiable

DH> 1. Compatible to what?

DH> 2. The other ones were ATI.

DH> 3. I just can't remember who had the same problem, but I think he used
DH> an nVidia chip.

*I* use an NVidia chip and have no problems.

Application interaction is my thinking on the matter. I've had application
interactions cause some interesting things. I can't run WindowBlinds
anymore because it makes PowerPro do strange things. I preferred
functionality to appearance and canned WindowBlinds. It took me a while to
discover what the problem was.

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Re: I'm back

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Hail Roland

On 21 June 2001 at 12:32:09 +0200 (which was 11:32 where I live) Roland
Burger graced us with these comments

> I'm back with new eMail-address! Best wishes to all.

So I have see (on many lists) ^_^

Welcome back

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Re[2]: Need a solution

[Raj]

Januk,


On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, at 02:52:36 [GMT -0700] (which was 3:22 PM where I live) you
wrote:

TF>> In the forward template, use:
TF>> %From="" %From=%OFromAddr %Reply-To="" %Reply-To=%OFromAddr

> Just note, to work properly *every* time, enclose the arguments with
> quotes.  In otherwords,

> %FROM="%OFROMADDR" and %Reply-To="%OFromAddr"

You are right. Thanks again.

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I'm back

[Roland Burger]

Hi,

I'm back with new eMail-address! Best wishes to all.

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Re: MailTicker not showing up

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Hello Thomas!

On Thursday, June 21, 2001 at 11:14:01 AM you wrote:

> Unless this graphics card is not comptiable

1. Compatible to what?

2. The other ones were ATI.

3. I just can't remember who had the same problem, but I think he used
an nVidia chip.





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Re: Need a solution

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello Thomas,

Historians believe that Thu, 21 Jun 2001 at 14:44 GMT +0800 was when,
Thomas F [TF] typed the following:

TF> In the forward template, use:
TF> %From="" %From=%OFromAddr %Reply-To="" %Reply-To=%OFromAddr

Just note, to work properly *every* time, enclose the arguments with
quotes.  In otherwords,

%FROM="%OFROMADDR" and %Reply-To="%OFromAddr"

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Re: MailTicker not showing up

[Thomas F]

Hi Dierk,

On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:06:57 +0200GMT (21/06/2001, 17:06 +0800GMT),
Dierk Haasis wrote:

DH> Matrox is one of the bigger companies building graphics adapters. 32
DH> MB is the RAMDAC of my graphics card. Still think it is awfully
DH> little?

Oops, no. ;-)

Unless this graphics card is not comptiable, I have no further ideas.
MT works fine over here.

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Re: MailTicker not showing up

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Hello Thomas!

On Thursday, June 21, 2001 at 9:51:51 AM you wrote:

> I don't know Matrox, but if that is a RAM maker, 32MB seems awfully
> little. Combine that with a Win95, and I have my suspicions.

Matrox is one of the bigger companies building graphics adapters. 32
MB is the RAMDAC of my graphics card. Still think it is awfully
little?

> How much RAM on the other machine(s) on which the ticker doesn't work?
> What OS?

The RAM of my computer is 128 MB - really not a problem, even with
Win2K. The other machines had much less (both RAM and graphics RAM),
but were still in the clear for what one was doing.



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Re[2]: Need a solution

[Raj]

Thomas,

On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, at 14:44:56 [GMT +0800] (which was 12:14 PM where I live) you
wrote:

> In the forward template, use:
> %From="" %From=%OFromAddr %Reply-To="" %Reply-To=%OFromAddr

> This will work only if your SMTP server allows the message through,
> though.

Worked like a charm. (Except it needs All Caps).

Thanks for the prompt reply.

My admiration for TB has gone up couple of notches higher now.

Raj

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Re[3]: why do my #?@! filters not work

[andrew]

Hi andrew,

 On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, at 12:00:09 [GMT +0100] (which was 12:00 in London) you wrote:

M>> Spam Two
a> Any mails that haven't been moved to personal and sender's address *is
a> not* in the address book set-up above move to trash (this gives you a
a> fail safe, so you can check the filter isn't killing good mails by
a> looking in trash).
a> - last filter.

It occurred to me that there could be a bit more use for this filter.
Having watched it work in conjunction with the filter 2 discussed
elsewhere in the original mail it's proving very effective. There were
two main thoughts:-

1) Pretty simple to add the senders address to the know spam 1 filter
and 2) Could we set-up a filter which forwards the spam to the 'terms
of service'/anti-spam email address of the providers involved ie.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]???. Yahoo/Hotmail would be good first steps (without
having to set-up a separate filter for each).

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Re: MailTicker not showing up

[Thomas F]

Hi Dierk,

On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 08:54:20 +0200GMT (21/06/01, 14:54 +0800GMT),
Dierk Haasis wrote:

DH> My machine has a Matrox G400 DH (32MB), a PII (233 MHz), and the rest
DH> you find in the sig.

I don't know Matrox, but if that is a RAM maker, 32MB seems awfully
little. Combine that with a Win95, and I have my suspicions.

How much RAM on the other machine(s) on which the ticker doesn't work?
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Re: MailTicker not showing up

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Hello Allie!

On Wednesday, June 20, 2001 at 8:00:40 PM you wrote:

> Don't hold your breath on my looking it up , but it's interesting that
> the problem follows you across installations, assuming that these are
> fresh installations and not backups being restored on other machines.

They are not backups. The first time I encountered the problem on an
LAN in an agency I worked for. It was the first time I really needed
the MT, since I could get mail any second and did not want to look
myself. That's why I always point out the main function of the MT not
as a virtual folder but a real-time notifier.

The second time was on my own machine, where I just tested it (you
see: dial-up paid for by minute, no 24/7). The agency machine - it
were actually two different machines, both with new install, both
differently setup hardware-wise, both quite old (one Pentium, one PII)
- - was very different to mine.

My machine has a Matrox G400 DH (32MB), a PII (233 MHz), and the rest
you find in the sig. Oh, it's an SCSI comp. DirectX 7a is installed
and the font smoother from MS (W95gray).

> I've never had a ticker problem. It just keeps scrolling.

Just tested, it does not scroll.

> Let's see  could it be a particular ticker configuration?

Show automatically, Always on top, Auto-zoom, messages of all
priority, Age-limit set to Maximum 30 s, faster. Put on the upper edge
of the monitor.

Tested it with other options (Thin view, Auto-zoom off, not on one of
the edges, no age limit), always gets stuck.



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