slightly long summary of SPAM... slightly OT but relevant... :)
Hello List Buds, one of my very favorite sites "Hot-deals.org, aka hotdealclub.com" the webmaster posts deals and great info and is 100% non-profit. He's very knowledgeable in IT and he posted the following on his site regarding SPAM... (FYI. I check this site many times a day as there is always great information and especially good deals... and being in IT for many many years, I can tell he does know a lot about the net and running websites..) Anyhow, on his site today is the following on SPAM. Since many of us are wondering how to stop SPAM, etc... I thought it relevant and figured Maniac wouldn't mind.. FYI, the links to his sites are: www.hot-deals.org or www.hotdealsclub.com since his page changes daily and new stuff is appended to the top of the page, I thought I'd clip it and put it in an email that y'all can save if you like. Anyhow, he identifies in a very simple manner how to distinguish spam from non-spam, and what to do. Sorry if it may seem off topic, but this is a subject very dear to all of our hearts and... seems to come up all the time... Laura from hot-deals.org Fight back against SPAM email: Do you hate spam as much as I do? Sending out unsolicited spam email is not only illegal, but wastes people's valuable time. This article may help you fight spam, if you follow these simple steps: Never post your email address in a public place on the Internet. Never respond to spam. Send complaints to the spammer's ISP either by yourself or by using a spam complaint service. First, let's explain what SPAM really is: "Spam" is unwanted unsolicited impersonal commercial advertisments sent over email One easy way to identify a spam message is by its subject or looking at the "from" email address. Spammers often attempt to hide their email source. If you signed up to receive commercial advertisments from Blockbuster.com, the commercial email they send you is not spam, because you requested to receive advertisments from that company. If a company trades your personal information to a third party for the purpose of sending you email advertisments, that is not spam as long as you agreed to a company's terms & conditions that specified your information may be shared. Spam emails hide their return addresses. For example, a spam email may appear to be from [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spam messages are sent across the Internet by automated robots and get to your inbox by random chance. Spammers often guess email addresses or scan usenet posts in the hopes of finding a valid mailbox. It's kind of like parking your car on the street, and finding a flyer on the windsheld a few hours later. The advertisments are not directed at you personally. The key here is personal. If a message appears to be personal, like your name is written in the message, then it is not spam. Spam messages often advertise illegal or too-good-to-be-true stuff, such as: "Win a million dollars", "buy Viagra online", or X-rated things. Spam messages are easy to identify with their pushy advertising, silly text graphics, and bad grammar. It is important that you understand what spam really is, before you take the action against the spammers. Here are some examples of what is and is not spam: This is not spam, assuming your name is John Doe: Hi, John Doe. Would you like to win a million dollars? This is spam: Click here for a chance to win a million dollars. Once you identify a message as spam, follow these important tips: Never ever respond to a spam message or click on their links, otherwise you will just get more spam. If a spam message says "to be removed from our mailing list" with instructions to either respond to the message or to click a special "remove" link, do not do it. Spammers have lists of millions of email addresses, and they have no idea which emails are actually valid. In fact, only a small percentage of their email lists contain valid email addresses. They have no idea which ones are good and which are not. If you respond to a spam message, then they will identify your email address as hitting a real person, and you will be subject to receive more spam. Some spammers just send out bulk emails instructing the user to click a link or send an email to be removed from a list, and the spammer will collect a list of emails that received a human response, and sell illegially those email lists to other spammers. Never trust the spam's "From" email address. A fatal flaw in email technology is that the "From" email header can be false. It's kind of like dropping off a letter at the post office - technically you can write any false name & address on it to hide your true identity. Some spammers have even been known to impersonate others. One time someone sent out spam with a "From" address of this website, and people actually believed it was from us when it wasn't. It took us a few days to collect some spam evidence from various sources and shut down the spammer. To throw off the authoritie
Re: CONTACT LIST WINDOW
Hello KoMpLoT, Sunday, August 4, 2002, 12:16:00 PM, you wrote: K>>>I just can't find a way to show the contact list window for rapid K>>>access... where can I find it? TF>> K> -- K> but isn't there a mini-view like in OE? Nope. -- Best regards, Adam Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Size exceeding and autoreply
Hello Marck On Sunday, August 4, 2002, at 7:05:48 PM, Marck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote to Shahar about: Size exceeding and autoreply S>> When I receive the message from The Bat! with the size exceeding S>> notice, I need to extract the "From" header from the message's kludge. S>> Is it possible ? S>> If yes, Please advice how. > Yes, but the answer may be too technical for this list. Please ask > with a sample of the notification message on the TBTECH list. Marck, OK. Thank you for your answer. Thank you for writing. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SORTING THE MAILS
On Sun, 2002-08-04 at 10:27, Thomas F. wrote: > > JA> The problem doing that is with Outlook you have to go change a whole > JA> bundle of settings so the reply is tagged with > > > Ups, so I am wrong and it has to do with the default setting of OL. > (Can't MS get *anything* right?) Some of the default settings are a real pain, and not being able to customise certain options does make using it awful. Hence my quest for a good email client, and my being pointed at TB... not turned back since. > JA> Even in the environment I work in where I reply to a lot of technical > JA> support questions I use top quoting as often several questions are > JA> asked, > > As I said, in some business enviroenments it makes sense, in others > not. Oh I agree too. There are some cases where I do use bottom quoting purely because it is just not necessary to quote parts of the mail up the top for it to make sense. > >> (The exception I make is the web interface. > > JA> I have to agree. > > I was without a computer for the first two months back in Thailand, > and had to use web interfaces in internet cafes exclusively. In the > beginning, my postings included an apoligy for top-replying, then > people knew. Boy, am I glad to have my computer back. :-))) Yes, I remember ;) My ISP is exactly the same. Their web interface is rather nice, very quick, but the problem stands in it's default properties, and formating of replies... oddly enough, it is co-designed by Microsoft and HP ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Keys : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=SendKeys Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Spam filters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Brook, @04 August 2002, 23:47 -0700 (07:47 UK time) Brook Humphrey in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >> I tried the faq link prior to posting, it told me to use IE, I then >> left. > I agree IE is not an option. Incorrect. IE *is* an option. Opera is a very limited option. Mozilla is an excellent compromise. Now go back and read the FAQ, which only said that it is *best* viewed with IE and has a *lot* of very important information. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9TVHZOeQkq5KdzaARAnjeAKCm8BK83yJVsJ+mZB1Tt9u3M9pfUwCfQHoj vnc2LOHnljXekuRCnvnt7AY= =iN8A -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: SORTING THE MAILS
Hi Allie C Martin, on Domingo, 04 de Agosto de 2002 you wrote: ACM> Select the text you wish to quote and then hit F4 or go to specials ACM> menu and select 'reply quoting selected text'. -- thanks!! thanks! =) -- Regards, KoMpLoT mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Size exceeding and autoreply
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Shahar, @03 August 2002, 22:15 +0300 (20:15 UK time) Shahar [S] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: S> When I receive the message from The Bat! with the size exceeding S> notice, I need to extract the "From" header from the message's kludge. S> Is it possible ? S> If yes, Please advice how. Yes, but the answer may be too technical for this list. Please ask with a sample of the notification message on the TBTECH list. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9TVDdOeQkq5KdzaARAnPRAJ9qfe2lHSqxXGO+cT1yQpv//MRTyACdHfOf Is5BoDE6ycVPzrtERi9CtIE= =nNQo -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
display tips in another language - tips.ini missing
To tbudl, Does anyone knwo how I could make tips appear in my own language? I translate them into Dutch myself, but I only see a bat_fra.tip, bat_ger.tip etcetera, and no bat_dut.tip. Also the tip.ini file referenced in the on line Help, is not in my installation of The Bat! (!). I tried opening and renaming the English tips file, and saving it as bat_dut.tip, but where and how does one point The Bat to the new tips file? -- Kind regards, Heijo (currently using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 ) Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: a real mystery
Hi Allie. At 1:08 PM on Saturday, August 03, 2002 you [ACM] wrote the following about [a real mystery]: ACM> Only that I don't think your problem is TB! related and only that TB! ACM> has suffered as a result of it. Sending messages to Dell tech support ACM> is more the way to go. [...] You know, Allie, now I'm not so sure about this. No other program is affected. I can empty a folder but not delete individual msgs. TB! has a hard time compressing the 'trash' folder [even tho it is currently empty]. I've deleted tbi files & tried again w the same result. I'd like to change focus on this problem a bit to see if there is some way I can actually move TB! & all its files to a fresh HD location & try again. What do you think & how would you go about it? I know how to move 'MAIL' & all subfolders & then just move them back & re-constitute my accounts but I'm wondering if I wouldn't be 'carrying' the problem with me. ?? TIA -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.62/Beta1/W2K_SP2 ICQ 41116329 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: CONTACT LIST WINDOW
Hello KoMpLoT, On Sun, 4 Aug 2002 11:46:00 -0300 GMT (04/08/02, 21:46 +0700 GMT), KoMpLoT wrote: TF>> K> -- K> but isn't there a mini-view like in OE? You have received replies to this. May I kindly advise you that the sig delimiter needs to be under your message, no tabove it. TB (and every other good email client) will cut off everything that is below it. Try replying to this message, and you see what I mean. Alas, the sig delimiter is not "--", but it is "-- " (dash-dash-space-return), that why yours didn't work. (No offense, I appreciate your effort.) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. "Let's meet, so you can 'ooh' and 'aah' over my experience." Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Spam filters
At 2:32 AM on Sunday, August 04, 2002 Headless [H] wrote the following about [Spam filters]: >> For starters, why don't you take a look @ FAQ. H> I tried the faq link prior to posting, it told me to use H> IE, I then left. Huh? I don't use IE & it works fine. Also, kinda silly if you really want to gain some basic knowledge about this program. Buy, hey, that's just me. Cutting off my nose to spite my face isn't on my agenda. What can I say? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.62/Beta1/W2K_SP2 ICQ 41116329 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SORTING THE MAILS
Hello Jonathan, On 04 Aug 2002 08:55:13 -0500 GMT (04/08/02, 20:55 +0700 GMT), Jonathan Angliss wrote: >> You are not forced to reply at the top and bottom quote the whole >> message replied to. It is still no big effort to reply inline. JA> The problem doing that is with Outlook you have to go change a whole JA> bundle of settings so the reply is tagged with > or some other type of JA> separator for replies otherwise you'll get inline text, and it is *very* JA> difficult if skim reading to tell the difference between reply, and JA> original posting. Ups, so I am wrong and it has to do with the default setting of OL. (Can't MS get *anything* right?) >> E> I prefer top-replying, don't often re-read the original post, >> >> This may make sense in a tech support kind of environment, this this >> here is a mailing list. Quote the paragraph you are replying to, and >> put your reply under that paragraph. Make life easier for people who >> want to read your postings on this list. Please. JA> Even in the environment I work in where I reply to a lot of technical JA> support questions I use top quoting as often several questions are JA> asked, As I said, in some business enviroenments it makes sense, in others not. >> (The exception I make is the web interface. JA> I have to agree. I was without a computer for the first two months back in Thailand, and had to use web interfaces in internet cafes exclusively. In the beginning, my postings included an apoligy for top-replying, then people knew. Boy, am I glad to have my computer back. :-))) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. For those of you who have children and don't know it, we have a nursery downstairs. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hello KoMpLoT! On Sunday, August 4, 2002 at 4:42:54 PM you wrote: > -- > well Two things about your sig delimiter: 1. Use just one, placed directly above your signature (see below) 2. It has to be otherwise mail clients won't recognize it. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.61 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Wer von anderen nichts erwartet, darf sich nicht wundern, wenn er nichts erhält. (Aleks Papst) Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: CONTACT LIST WINDOW
Hi KoMpLoT, On Sun, 4 Aug 2002, at 11:46:00 [GMT -0300] (15:46 where I live) you wrote: K>>>I just can't find a way to show the contact list window for rapid K>>>access... where can I find it? TF>> K> -- K> but isn't there a mini-view like in OE? At the end of the TO: field is a little address book icon A -- 04 August 2002, 16:08 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] What happens if a big asteroid hits the Earth? Judging from realistic simulations involving a sledge hammer and a common laboratory frog, we can assume it will be pretty bad. - Dave Barry All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: CONTACT LIST WINDOW
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jonathan Angliss [JA] wrote: JA> Try selecting the To/CC/BCC field, and click on the address book icon JA> that appears at the end of the line. For those who find it hard to hit the little icon, just use Shift-Enter. :) - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.62/Beta1 | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.91 (Win32) iD8DBQE9TUDjV8nrYCsHF+IRAgqhAJ9TRc7KSSNPd7+hopcZrhiKP8wWxwCgglgO HnJD0jItSUnw2pC4TzLBZhE= =anUC -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: High ascii filter
Sun, 4 Aug 2002 07:59:22[GMT +0100] (2:59 AM EDST) Headless wrote: > My high ascii filter has a list of high ascii characters enclosed in > square brackets. I've noticed that the filter doesn't work if the > subject of the spam message contains (starts with?) a square bracket. > I have the filer set to check kludges. > How do I solve that? Presumably you're trying to eliminate messages in alphabets that are not the 26 letters A thru Z. I took a somewhat more (less?) direct approach, and my filter always works. Whenever you find message in your Inbox whose subject has characters that are unreadable to you: 1. Copy the subject into Notepad. For example: [±¤°í]2002 ¿©¸§¸ÂÀÌ ½æ¸Ó ´ëÃàÁ¦ 2. Delete any characters that appear on your keyboard's keys, or that you might appear in a subject you'd be interested in. For example: ¤¿§ÂÀÌæÓÃàÁ 3. Separate the remaining characters with the pipe (above the backslash). (The pipe is interpreted in TheBat!'s filters as a logical inclusive-OR.) For example: ¤|¿|§|Â|À|Ì|æ|Ó|Ã|à|Á 4. Open a filter (perhaps a new one called Unreadable Characters) and paste the string of step 3 into the filter as a string, whose Location is Subject, and whose Presence is Yes. 5. Any time an unreadable message sneaks through the filter into your Inbox, repeat steps 1. When you get to step 4, add a string to your filter, whose Location is Subject, and whose Presence is Yes. Paste the new step 3 string into your filter's added string. It took only a few times (perhaps 3 or 4) until all of my unreadable SPAM began to be filtered into my Trash. Using The Bat! v1.60q/Post3 on Windows 95 4.0 Build B -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SORTING THE MAILS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Komplot [K] wrote: K> alright, I will use that way... but the thing is, how do make TB! K> (which macro do I have to use) cut off automatically all the part K> of the mail that isn't usefull? (like the text above) thanks! Select the text you wish to quote and then hit F4 or go to specials menu and select 'reply quoting selected text'. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.62/Beta1 | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.91 (Win32) iD8DBQE9TUBUV8nrYCsHF+IRAhVOAJ0WDo+yglcD1pybVrbfklLGi3jaTwCdFlgV qIN6rqBRhH1JF0f+wY1Ts+A= =deTb -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Re[2]: CONTACT LIST WINDOW
On Sun, 2002-08-04 at 09:46, KoMpLoT wrote: > > K>>I just can't find a way to show the contact list window for rapid > K>>access... where can I find it? > > TF> > > but isn't there a mini-view like in OE? Try selecting the To/CC/BCC field, and click on the address book icon that appears at the end of the line. Is that what you are after? -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Keys : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=SendKeys Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Re[2]: SORTING THE MAILS
On Sun, 2002-08-04 at 09:45, KoMpLoT wrote: > > MY> This was a straight reply to your e-mail. As you can see, everything > MY> below your top posted signature delimiter was removed by The Bat! > MY> This is one of the reasons to bottom post or post in context. Another > MY> reason, is the conventions on the group. The most powerful argument > MY> for doing it this way is; that's the way the moderators said to do it. > [huge snip] > alright, I will use that way... but the thing is, how do make TB! > (which macro do I have to use) cut off automatically all the part of the mail that >isn't usefull? > (like the text above) > thanks! Take a look on the TB FAQ page, there is a PGP signature stripper. The rest should automatically be stripped off *IF* the standard signature delimiter of (-- ) is used. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Keys : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=SendKeys Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: CONTACT LIST WINDOW
Hi Thomas F., on Domingo, 04 de Agosto de 2002 you wrote: TF> Hello KoMpLoT, TF> On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:06:47 -0300 GMT (04/08/02, 09:06 +0700 GMT), TF> KoMpLoT wrote: K>>I just can't find a way to show the contact list window for rapid K>>access... where can I find it? TF> -- but isn't there a mini-view like in OE? -- Regards, KoMpLoT mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: SORTING THE MAILS
Hi Mike Yetto, on Domingo, 04 de Agosto de 2002 you wrote: MY> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- MY> Hash: SHA1 MY> On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 22:56:27 [GMT -0300], KoMpLoT wrote: K>> Hi! Jonathan, K>>I don't know, I still prefeer using this way, because I always read K>>the first part to know what's on the e-mail... MY> This was a straight reply to your e-mail. As you can see, everything MY> below your top posted signature delimiter was removed by The Bat! MY> This is one of the reasons to bottom post or post in context. Another MY> reason, is the conventions on the group. The most powerful argument MY> for doing it this way is; that's the way the moderators said to do it. MY> Mike Yetto MY> - -- MY> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MY> PGP Key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=MAY:PGP_Key MY> E-mailed using The Bat! v1.61 running on MY> Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 MY> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- MY> Version: PGP 6.5.8 MY> iQA/AwUBPUytQ9kz/SR3Uv4yEQLbjQCg/ITMmBfymdedRHugn3QVRNWLO80An3VB MY> I8hjFdISu1nSms/dlUS8KNvb MY> =XGf7 MY> -END PGP SIGNATURE- MY> MY> Current Ver: 1.61 MY> FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com MY> Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MY> Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com MY> Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MY> TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MY> Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ -- alright, I will use that way... but the thing is, how do make TB! (which macro do I have to use) cut off automatically all the part of the mail that isn't usefull? (like the text above) thanks! -- Regards, KoMpLoT mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: USING GnuPG...
Hi Joseph N., on Domingo, 04 de Agosto de 2002 you wrote: JN>On Saturday, August 03, 2002, KoMpLoT wrote in JN> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: K>> How can I use GnuPG with TB! ? JN> KoMpLoT, JN> You have already received several responses, but no one has taken this JN> route, so I'll jump in. If you have Windows, then my recommendation JN> would be to get GPGshell, which is a Windows user interface for GPG. JN> Then load GPGtray (part of GPGshell), which is a system tray program JN> having several very useful components. Using it is more flexible, and JN> key management is more functional, than trying to use GPG from within JN> TB! -- well, A friend of mine have already created a proggy that let me use gpg with a GUI, it de/encrypts clipboard and files, using the normal encryption or the conventional... the problem is that I'm not looking for an external program, I just want TB! to do it automatically! -- Regards, KoMpLoT mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
addition to the Help file on Auto-reply filtering
To tbudl, I was making an automatically working reply message based on a filter. The filter was easy, but did not launch automatically (it did when filtering manually), and the Help or the FAQ didn't give me a clue. After browsing The Bat! I discovered an undocumented radio button that made it work: [select the right account] Account » Sorting Office » [select a filter] » Options tab » Immediately (radio button in the Send generated messages group box). I think this info should really be added to the section on automatic filtering in the on line Help (strangely enough, the Help » Index » Search command yielded "automatic filtering" as a Help entry). -- Kind regards, Heijo (currently using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 ) Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SORTING THE MAILS
On Sun, 2002-08-04 at 00:27, Thomas F. wrote: > > E> Is it OE or is it USA programming? > > Contrary to popular belief, I don't think it has to do with the MUA. > Even if the cursor is put in at the top of the quote, you can still > make a sensible reply. You are not forced to reply at the top and > bottom quote the whole message replied to. It is still no big effort > to reply inline. The problem doing that is with Outlook you have to go change a whole bundle of settings so the reply is tagged with > or some other type of separator for replies otherwise you'll get inline text, and it is *very* difficult if skim reading to tell the difference between reply, and original posting. > E> I prefer top-replying, don't often re-read the original post, > > This may make sense in a tech support kind of environment, this this > here is a mailing list. Quote the paragraph you are replying to, and > put your reply under that paragraph. Make life easier for people who > want to read your postings on this list. Please. Even in the environment I work in where I reply to a lot of technical support questions I use top quoting as often several questions are asked, and it makes it easier to give accurate, clearer answers to each question if each question is separated, and answered... just like I would do if they called up, and asked the same questions. > (The exception I make is the web interface. These things are so user > unfriendly that I forgive anybody for top-replying. But that is an > exception.) I have to agree. Most web interfaces neither put a reply tag (ie >) on the replies, or include some non-standard method of placing the reply in, like putting this in: = Leaving all useful information like subject etc off, and who the original poster is. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PGP Keys : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=SendKeys Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: DIGEST
Hi Peter, On Sun, 4 Aug 2002, at 14:30:10 [GMT +0200] (13:30 where I live) you wrote: PM> Hi Adam, AR>> Can someone review the links to change in and out of Digest - as you can AR>> see I had real fun with them yesterday! PM> Here you are: PM> I suggest you create an "archive" folder for TB! and store messages of PM> general meaning there. :-) I rather zealously overpruned my folder and so deleted the original messages I was sent. Ta A -- 04 August 2002, 14:32 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Found this spoon, sir. All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: DIGEST
Hi Adam, on Sun, 4 Aug 2002 12:29:45 +0100GMT (04.08.02, 13:29 +0200GMT here), you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : AR> Can someone review the links to change in and out of Digest - as you can see I AR> had real fun with them yesterday! Here you are: ,- [ ] | Taken from the list charter: | =8<=== | | If you wish to receive the list digest instead of individual mails, | please send mail to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the text.. | set tbudl digest | ..in the first line of the message BODY. | | Here's a quick link for it .. just double click here and send the | message that is generated to begin receiving the list as a digest: | | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?BODY=set%20tbudl%20digest | | If you ever wish to change back to standard message mode, please send | mail to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the text.. | unset tbudl digest | ..in the first line of the message BODY. | | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?BODY=unset%20tbudl%20digest | `- I suggest you create an "archive" folder for TB! and store messages of general meaning there. :-) -- Cheers Peter PGP-Key: http://www.meynsweb.com/public-key.txt Winamp currently playing: David Allen Coe - This Bottle Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Indent (was Re: SORTING THE MAILS)
Good afternoon Dierk, It was foretold that on 4-8-2002 @ 09:42:58 GMT+0200 (which was 9:42:58 where I live) Dierk Haasis wrote and spread these wise comments on "Indent (was Re: SORTING THE MAILS)": DH> In Editor preferences you can set Auto-indent Which i already did when configuring TB! but completely forgot about the tab. So much for being up untill 5.30 in the morning lol. Tnx ! -- Best regards, Lucmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Powered by The Bat! version 1.61 with Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 and using the best browser: Opera. "Absolutely nothing in the world is friendlier than a wet dog." Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SORTING THE MAILS
Hi Thomas, On Sun, 4 Aug 2002, at 12:26:29 [GMT +0700] (06:26 where I live) you wrote: TF> Hello Adam, AR>> This is now officially an ex-horse, it has ceased to be (well I think AR>> so)! TF> ^^ TF> Have you become a moderator? ;-) Sigh - a blatant Monty Python reference and everyone things I'm being pushy ;-) A -- 04 August 2002, 12:46 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Murphy's best friend was a computer. All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi Allie, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 23:23:12 [GMT -0500] (05:23 where I live) you wrote: ACM> Upon deliberate review of your posts apart from the recent ones in ACM> this thread, I see that this is patently untrue. I apologize for ACM> saying this. :) It looks as if this was meant at me, though I can't tell as you replied to yourself. If it is I accept. Ifitisn't then talking to oneself is a very bad sign indeed... A -- 04 August 2002, 12:44 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life. All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi Dierk, On Sun, 4 Aug 2002, at 09:32:11 [GMT +0200] (08:32 where I live) you wrote: DH> Hello Adam! DH> Why was all the old message's stuff included? Because it was 3 AM and I hit reply without doing my normal pruning. Tired minds and all that -- 04 August 2002, 12:40 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] A)bort, R)etry, I)nfluence with large hammer. All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SORTING THE MAILS
Hi Thomas, On Sun, 4 Aug 2002, at 12:26:29 [GMT +0700] (06:26 where I live) you wrote: AR>> Perhaps an FAQ entry is needed, explaining the position? TF> It is sad that it seems to be necessary. Indeed - I agree AR>> This is now officially an ex-horse, it has ceased to be (well I think so)! TF> ^^ TF> Have you become a moderator? ;-) No, just someone who can see an exercise in futility approaching ;-) A -- 04 August 2002, 12:41 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] The Knights Who Say Nee demand a sacrifice! All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi Dierk, On Sun, 4 Aug 2002, at 09:45:32 [GMT +0200] (08:45 where I live) you wrote: DH> Hello Adam! DH> On Sunday, August 4, 2002 at 5:32:19 AM you wrote: >> Come on Allie, that means that whole threads turn into a mish mash. Top or >> bottom, come off the fence. DH> On this list: No. Use conversational mode. See one of my replies - what I call bottom posting is indented quoting - just most of the time I use one message = one point. This is a case in mind - i used this message to answer your one point, -- 04 August 2002, 12:39 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] When I was a child... We had a quick-sand box in the backyard.. I was an only child eventually. All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hi Allie, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 23:17:36 [GMT -0500] (05:17 where I live) you wrote: ACM> This isn't what *you* do. You do all the quoting at the top followed ACM> by all your replying below. I'm yet to see a reply message from you ACM> with the format: ACM> > Quote (pruned properly) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For a few examples. I'd deleted all list mail past yesterday so all I have is saturday ->, but look carefully and you will see that most of the time I only answer one point. Strange how all of a sudden I am the one defending my position. -- 04 August 2002, 12:30 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] It may be called puppy love, but it's real to the puppy. All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: DIGEST
Hi Mark, On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, at 21:02:38 [GMT -0700] (05:02 where I live) you wrote: MW> Hi back atcha. Sorry guys Can someone review the links to change in and out of Digest - as you can see I had real fun with them yesterday! A -- 04 August 2002, 12:28 [ Adam Rykala : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ [new-wales] project : www.new-wales.net ] [ Public key : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Good idea, Judith. We shall fight the oppressors for your right to have babies, brother. Sister. Sorry. All my emails are scanned with AntiVir's Antivirus Mail Gateway for Linux. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
High ascii filter
My high ascii filter has a list of high ascii characters enclosed in square brackets. I've noticed that the filter doesn't work if the subject of the spam message contains (starts with?) a square bracket. I have the filer set to check kludges. How do I solve that? Headless Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hello ETM! On Sunday, August 4, 2002 at 4:22:55 AM you wrote: > A file folder (in the US) runs with the oldest paper at the > bottom and the current papers proceeding in chronological filing > order to the top of the stack. Is this a country thing? No, but the purpose is quite another. One usually is interested in the most recent part of a story first and then afterwards in what was in the beginning. Also, it is easier to file away, since you just put in the most recent articles on top of what you already have. If you'd like it the other way round you'd always have to take out everything already put in. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.61 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Doing something with your own hands is *not* creativity; or masturbation would be an art everybody is excelling in. (Derek Leveret) Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Indent (was Re: SORTING THE MAILS)
Hello Luc! On Sunday, August 4, 2002 at 5:38:15 AM you wrote: > Do you have to do the indent manually or is there a short cut to it? In Editor preferences you can set Auto-indent, Smart tabs and some other features. If you set the two mentioned, you just have to use one for the first line of the paragraph to be indented. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.61 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Aim Low, Reach Your Goals, Avoid Disappointment. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SORTING THE MAILS
Hello KoMpLoT! On Sunday, August 4, 2002 at 3:56:27 AM you wrote: >I don't know, I still prefeer using this way, because I always read >the first part to know what's on the e-mail... 1. You left a lot of unnecessary quote in, because of top-answering. 2. The logical way to read *is* from top to bottom. It's as simple as that, ergonomics: less trouble with scrolling and going back and forth. 3. The usual conversational model (can also be seen in music: Gospel, Soul) is question-answer-question-answer. And guess what, it works. 4. Top-quoting is for the benefit of the receiving side, bottom-quoting benefits only the lazy ones. 5. Can we, please, see to it that we don't unnecessarily use all capital subjects. For different reasons (e.g. they are harder to read, they are considered shouting) they shouldn't be used. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.61 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Nobody can hurt me without my permission. (Mohandas Gandhi) Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hello Adam! On Sunday, August 4, 2002 at 4:38:18 AM you wrote: > Once you've done that in new email go to Privacy and click Sign (or Encrypt) > when completed, > When you send it will ask for your pass phrase Why was all the old message's stuff included? -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.61 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Life is a sexually transmitted disease. (Alexander Veljanov) Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SORTING THE MAILS
Hello Allie! On Sunday, August 4, 2002 at 5:16:39 AM you wrote: > b) In a democratic environment as this list, majority rules. Since when? Let me add that I hope not, because I'd at least like to think that rationality and logic rules. The Majority is not necessarily well equipped to decide what is best (let alone right). If it is wrong to quote conversationally I'd gladly change my way ... -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.61 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Calling Things by their right name marks the beginning of Wisdom. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hello ETM! On Sunday, August 4, 2002 at 5:10:15 AM you wrote: > But I have never retained any taglines or extraneous material. How hard can it be changing your way after reading a lot of good arguments? If you don't want, it's alright. But the only argument I've read pro bottom-quoting is "I've always done it this way." Even the "In corporate posting it is often required" comes back to that. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.61 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Cynic: A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. (Ambrose Bierce) Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: PGP & GPG
Hello Jason! On Sunday, August 4, 2002 at 5:08:11 AM you wrote: > what is the difference between this two?? The principal difference lies in their licences, PGP being a privately owned programme (at the moment NAI, IIRC), GPG is under GNU Public licence - meaning it is open source, freeware and can be changed by anyone who wants to. PGP was originally developed as open source freeware which could be changed by anyone *but with the consent of its originator* Phil Zimmermann. Try to search the Net for PGP and Tom McCune, he once had a very good overview site (a kind of portal long before people used this stupid designation for web sites) on PGP. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.61 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C There are three kinds of lies: Lies, damned lies, and statistics. (Benjamin Disraeli/Mark Twain) Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hello Adam! On Sunday, August 4, 2002 at 5:32:19 AM you wrote: > I made one mistake, I don't see a need for someone to get shirty with me. I > was just trying to point out the etiquette of email. Reminds of the "Folder templates aren't a problem" discussions. Certain preferences are more error-prone than others. And in certain circumstances I'd rather not have *one* mistake, it could be the last ever. > Come on Allie, that means that whole threads turn into a mish mash. Top or > bottom, come off the fence. On this list: No. Use conversational mode. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.61 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C The only thing infinite is the human capacity for self-deception. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: USING GnuPG...
Hello ETM! On Sunday, August 4, 2002 at 4:54:01 AM you wrote: > I generally read in real time (probably means I should get a > real life ) and so I usually remember the thread. It's beside the point. You propose here that *everyone* is reading like you and having the same physiological sets as you. Well, I don't. And there may be people coming in after the first few messages have been posted. They can't remember - and shouldn't scroll through long rants just to find a Question to which the Answer is posted miles away at the top. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Interest.Write4U.de/pongo PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.61 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Where there's a will there's a won't. (Ambrose Bierce) Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Re[2]: Spam filters
On Saturday 03 August 2002 11:32 pm, Headless wrote: > Saturday, August 03, 2002, 21:24, you wrote: > > For starters, why don't you take a look @ FAQ. > > I tried the faq link prior to posting, it told me to use IE, I then > left. > I agree IE is not an option. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
