Re: Wish list item
Thanks Allie. I think I'm getting there. I made a classic mistake and didn't set it to manual. Then refiltered my Inbox. NoteTab started going wild! Doug -- Doug's Archaeology Site http://www.ramtops.demon.co.uk Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[3]: How to clear history lists in Address and Subject fields?
I like autocompleted subject lines. I belong to a list to which I send recipes with a common beginning to the subject line. This gives me less to change. Doug -- Doug's Archaeology Site http://www.ramtops.demon.co.uk Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How to clear history lists in Address and Subject fields?
Hello Allie, > They do listen but they can't listen everywhere since they need time > to develop. If they're listening somewhere, the signal to noise > ratio has to be very good Yes, but noise can be filtered. And TB people should know a lot about filters :-) Anyway, it is their software and they have to include the options they believe will sell best whether you or I like them. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Watch Threads
Hello Allie, > I see no bugginess here and see perfect sense is what is being > achieved through the various options. See my reply to your <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The difference, and the problem as I see it, comes because of the fact that TB filters *force* a move to a folder (even if it is the same than the Source), and consider this move to be a part of the rule(s) like string matches, and not a part of the actions. The 'check selected messages against this rule' *disabled* can be understood as 'apply this filter actions to all selected messages', right? Then, if when I select N messages and hit the shortcut for my Ignore filter the N messages aside of being Ignored were moved to Inbox, then the different methods to trigger a filter would be *consistent*. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Watch Threads
Hello Thomas, > I think the point Miguel is trying to make here is that filters behave > differently depending on how they are triggered. That is inconsistent > to the degree of being dangerous. I see absolutely no sense in it, and > I would think that the word "bug" is not completely unrelated. Finally some one who understand me! Do you want to marry me? ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Watch Threads
Hello Allie, > Say you wish to delete some messages. What happens if you make a > mistake and select the wrong messages to delete? They will be > deleted. OK, let's put it this way then. I select N messages, but I don't want to Ignore the N messages, just those that match the filter rule(s). > The string matching can be done if you are: > > a) filtering incoming messages. In this instance the hotkey options > are ignored and the string match is carried out. That works fine. > b) reapplying the filter using the re-apply filters option. String > matching is done. That works fine, but messages are moved to Inbox. > It's only when you use the hotkey that a string match isn't carried > out with the option, 'check selected messages against this rule', > enabled. If the option *is* checked, the string match is carried out and the messages matching the rule(s) are Ignored (in my case) and moved to Inbox. If the option *is not* checked, string match *is not* done, *all* selected messages are Ignored and *none* is moved to Inbox. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Sharing Filters
Hello Thomas, > ...because the developers are "completely revamping the > filtering system" for v2. There are no news about what will be changed > though, ... Let's pray! ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Watch Threads
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Thomas F. [TF] wrote:' TF> I think the point Miguel is trying to make here is that filters TF> behave differently depending on how they are triggered. That is TF> inconsistent to the degree of being dangerous. I see absolutely TF> no sense in it, and I would think that the word "bug" is not TF> completely unrelated. I see no bugginess here and see perfect sense is what is being achieved through the various options. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 & WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (Win32) - GPGshell v2.60 iD8DBQE9m9aOV8nrYCsHF+IRAjc0AKDZk4KSRznt3CiyP+TSpYlzSO5dQQCg+nd4 tEO5EoC0CScvFbOVT+uKJ1w= =fu11 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Macro about address book: it works, but...
RO> Hallo Andrea, Hi Roelof, thanks a lot for your kindness. RO> You mentioned that it works for address book templates. Create a new RO> address book group, define group templates for it with Marck's macro RO> in it. RO> Now add all entries in your AB to that group. Should work, works here. RO> Still beats me why the macro doesn't work in account and folder RO> templates. I already thought to do so. But I manage several accounts with the Bat and, if I do as you say, how can I keep different signatures for each account? Do you have understood why the macro doesn't work as a general account's template? Cheers, Andrea -- Andrea Sartorati - Padova [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Talk about a dream, try to make it real you wake up in the night with a fear so real, spend your life waiting for a moment that just don't come, well, don't waste your time waiting..." (Bruce Springsteen, "Badlands") Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sharing Filters
Hello David, On Wed, 2 Oct 2002 13:41:45 -0700 GMT (03/10/02, 03:41 +0700 GMT), David Tod Sigafoos wrote: DTS>>> Do you know where the Filters are stored? TF>> In the files account.srx in your mail directories. DTS> Thanks .. I had though I looked there DTS> Guess i will have to write an app to maintain these a little easier I would be insterested in knowing what you intend to do. If you think the filtering system is not very easy, it is a good time forofficial suggestion, because the developers are "completely revamping the filtering system" for v2. There are no news about what will be changed though, but I hope a few of my suggestions will find their way into it. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Watch Threads
Hello Allie, On Wed, 2 Oct 2002 16:42:10 -0500 GMT (03/10/02, 04:42 +0700 GMT), Allie C Martin wrote: ACM> You select the messages to apply the action to and then hit the ACM> hotkey. The filter actions are applied to selected messages as the ACM> reply, delete or any other command. I don't see the risk or danger ACM> involved unless you really aren't sure of what the filter is setup ACM> to do. If I'm missing something, would you explain further. I think the point Miguel is trying to make here is that filters behave differently depending on how they are triggered. That is inconsistent to the degree of being dangerous. I see absolutely no sense in it, and I would think that the word "bug" is not completely unrelated. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I bought a portable cable tv. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Zoot
Hi Doug. At 5:28 PM on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 you [DW] wrote the following about 'Zoot': DW> Jan (and anyone else) -- how do you get DW> Zoot to work with TheBat!? And how do you DW> keep it up to date? I have yet to get TB! to work as it should with Zoot. Several people have figured out workarounds which I think are posted on the Zoot site. Take a look in the files sections. I have an old memory but I think they are there. If not I'll look in my own notes. I've talked Tom Davis about this a couple of times w/o much luck so far but MA is magic IMO. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.61/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to clear history lists in Address and Subject fields?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Miguel A. Urech [MAU] wrote:' MAU> Developers should certainly listen to beta testers for bug MAU> corrections, but they should listen to normal users for MAU> features enhancements. And this they do through bugtraq which has an area for suggestion submissions. They also do this through TBBETA. MAU> In Spain we say: "There is no worse deaf than that who doesn't MAU> want to listen". They do listen but they can't listen everywhere since they need time to develop. If they're listening somewhere, the signal to noise ratio has to be very good. Of course, noise is in the ears of the beholder and what he/she is listening for. :)) - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 & WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (Win32) - GPGshell v2.60 iD8DBQE9m31oV8nrYCsHF+IRAvVGAKCJoDLKr3WDxtiHKejboXUeONQmXQCgzP1s 5eeH+mQ8BeB2Tug4teOFUGE= =L8au -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Cannot *send* - error msg: Could not store the message
Roelof, Bingo! I had deleted the messages.tbi, but not the .tbb. As it turns out, it was the SENT folder that was the problem. To your reference to "How often do compress your folders?", I have it set to empty trash and compress on exit each time... maybe three or four times each day. I maintain the size and number of entries in all those folders to a minimum, keeping a rolling seven days in each account. Older messages are archived and stored to another backup/archive server. Thanks for the quick response and a great product for over three years. First problem I've had with any version. -- Thank you, Alan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 *** Wednesday, October 2, 2002, 5:54:36 PM, you wrote: RO> Hallo Alan, RO> On Wed, 2 Oct 2002 15:58:21 -0500GMT (2-10-02, 22:58 +0200GMT, where I RO> live), you wrote: AP>> Currently, all other accounts are sending and receiving mail fine, AP>> but one account cannot send. I get the error message "Could not AP>> store the message" on a pop-up alert. RO> If it's the storing problem that prevents that account from sending. RO> That might mean that the outbox for that account is corrupt. (How RO> often do compress your folders?) RO> Close TB and delete the messages.tbi and messages.tbb files in the RO> directory corresponding with your problem account. RO> Start TB again and try to send a message. Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Watch Threads
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Miguel A. Urech [MAU] wrote:' MAU> OK, let's take my Ignore filter. I have a number of "subjects" MAU> and/or MIDs in the Alternatives. If I make a mistake when MAU> selecting messages they will be Ignored even if they don't MAU> match any of the subjects or MIDs. Say you wish to delete some messages. What happens if you make a mistake and select the wrong messages to delete? They will be deleted. You'll have to restore them from the trash folder. In the same way, if you've inadvertently marked messages as ignored, then select those messages and then change back the colour group to what it was before. The string matching can be done if you are: a) filtering incoming messages. In this instance the hotkey options are ignored and the string match is carried out. b) reapplying the filter using the re-apply filters option. String matching is done. It's only when you use the hotkey that a string match isn't carried out with the option, 'check selected messages against this rule', enabled. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 & WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (Win32) - GPGshell v2.60 iD8DBQE9m3t2V8nrYCsHF+IRAkR5AKCFY6/p/DcLGNxJudIArThSlcVQEACfYeIb YEJiSDEqvXFgSfELUxNuatw= =i88H -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cannot *send* - error msg: Could not store the message
Hallo Alan, On Wed, 2 Oct 2002 15:58:21 -0500GMT (2-10-02, 22:58 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: AP> Currently, all other accounts are sending and receiving mail fine, AP> but one account cannot send. I get the error message "Could not AP> store the message" on a pop-up alert. If it's the storing problem that prevents that account from sending. That might mean that the outbox for that account is corrupt. (How often do compress your folders?) Close TB and delete the messages.tbi and messages.tbb files in the directory corresponding with your problem account. Start TB again and try to send a message. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 'Known' Filter and adding address book
Hallo Doug, On Wed, 2 Oct 2002 22:25:07 +0100GMT (2-10-02, 23:25 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: DW>>> I can't see how to add an address book to this. >> You can't add address books to the known filter. It only uses the >> default AB. DW> They are all in one address book. The known filter has a big blank DW> window with the heading 'Address books to check against.' Then there's something gone awry in your setup. Over here it shows my address book with all groups inside it. Oops! Just found out it works like a breeze to add new address book to the known filter. I was checking the known filter and I opened the address book, I created a new address book with a new group in it and went back to the sorting office and behold, the new book was mentioned in the filter. I'm using TB 1.61 under W98 with an inactive known filter. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Zoot
Hi, Wednesday, October 2, 2002, 10:58:59 PM, JN wrote: > Zoot is a great program, and I use it for information processing and > storage in some cases. But I've found Mailbag Assistant to be an > outstanding way to archive and locate email. It looks pretty good, and I like NoteTab. I haven't figured out how to update it yet, and although someone here once said it worked with Agent I can't figure out how (and I'm not sure if that was just Agent email or Agent news). I think I shall go with it rather than Zoot unless someone can convince me differently. At least I could get Mailbag up and running quickly. Thanks. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.demon.co.uk Co-owner UK-Schools mailing list: email me for details Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How to clear history lists in Address and Subject fields?
Hello Allie, > Most of the listening by the developers is done on the beta list. > This is where they get comments on bugs, new functionality and the > usual, "I see that you've fixed or included this feature. How about > blah, blah...". If you wish for your voice to be heard and don't > mind trying the betas then I encourage you to subscribe to the beta > list TBBETA. TBUDL tends to have a lot of general support threads > etc. so the developers, AFAIK, don't read it as much, if at all. I'm subscribed to TBBETA and TBTech, aside of TBUDL. But I can't do any beta testing although I would like to. Don't have much time and my e-mail client is a very important tool for my work. That's also why I am still on v1.60c, the most stable version before they started to release a new one every 30 minutes or so ;-) Developers should certainly listen to beta testers for bug corrections, but they should listen to normal users for features enhancements. In Spain we say: "There is no worse deaf than that who doesn't want to listen". -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Watch Threads
Hello Allie, > You select the messages to apply the action to and then hit the > hotkey. The filter actions are applied to selected messages as the > reply, delete or any other command. I don't see the risk or danger > involved unless you really aren't sure of what the filter is setup > to do. If I'm missing something, would you explain further. OK, let's take my Ignore filter. I have a number of "subjects" and/or MIDs in the Alternatives. If I make a mistake when selecting messages they will be Ignored even if they don't match any of the subjects or MIDs. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Zoot
On Wednesday, October 02, 2002, Doug Weller wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: DW> I'm looking at Zoot and Mailbag Assistant as ways of archiving my DW> email from past clients and TheBat. Doug, Maybe someone's found a way around this, but, if you send or receive attachments, then Zoot may not work well for you. I was unable to find a way to manage attachments. In addition, although the developer of the program spent substantial time trying to help out us TB! users, the delimiters still do not work well; at least I haven't had much luck with them. Zoot is a great program, and I use it for information processing and storage in some cases. But I've found Mailbag Assistant to be an outstanding way to archive and locate email. -- JN Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Watch Threads
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Miguel A. Urech [MAU] wrote:' MAU> But that is where I see the danger, if I want to prevent the MAU> movement I take the risk of applying the actions to messages MAU> that don't match the rules. You select the messages to apply the action to and then hit the hotkey. The filter actions are applied to selected messages as the reply, delete or any other command. I don't see the risk or danger involved unless you really aren't sure of what the filter is setup to do. If I'm missing something, would you explain further. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 & WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (Win32) - GPGshell v2.60 iD8DBQE9m2gwV8nrYCsHF+IRAiPfAJ9h6DxSvVWjw7v58JZ/ZDF6fmmgvgCgtyO6 Ddrc/GXe9VNYklB/KOpSAKg= =wCd+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Sharing Filters
Dear David, Wednesday, October 2, 2002 at 9:58:32 PM you wrote: DTS> Do you know where the Filters are stored? My way to find out in which files something is stored, is to make a change, and then use Explorer or My Computer to see which file is the newest. -- Kind regards, Britt Malka |\/| | \__/ | \/\/ | | \\ // \ / \/ ... Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead -- Charles Bukowski ... www.malka.it - www.malka.dk - www.supermalka.dk ... Mailer: Ritlabs SecureBat! v1.61 (7BA406E8D52) under Windows 2000 5.0 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to clear history lists in Address and Subject fields?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Miguel A. Urech [MAU] wrote:' MAU> I doubt that my opinion counts at all, I never write to MAU> developers or submit anything through the BugTrack thingy. So, MAU> unless they take a peek on this list... I think I've written to them once but otherwise I've only written to the list. I've not submitted a bug report since the start of bugtraq. Some else always mentions and reports them. :) Most of the listening by the developers is done on the beta list. This is where they get comments on bugs, new functionality and the usual, "I see that you've fixed or included this feature. How about blah, blah...". If you wish for your voice to be heard and don't mind trying the betas then I encourage you to subscribe to the beta list TBBETA. TBUDL tends to have a lot of general support threads etc. so the developers, AFAIK, don't read it as much, if at all. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 & WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (Win32) - GPGshell v2.60 iD8DBQE9m2dkV8nrYCsHF+IRAtGYAKDAw4r/T7lxzTsOviCGLhSMo/5PLQCgkaF3 5LZYoOuO8Q1wzJiXfgJBPCI= =aIv9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Watch Threads
Hello Allie, MAU>> Oh darn! That's dangerous then! > > Well, no. Not if you understand how it works and then let it do what > you need. Well, yes. Precisely because I now understand how it works is why I think it's dangerous :) > I am therefore happy that the option exists since you can use it to > prevent or promote movement of messages upon filtering as you need. But that is where I see the danger, if I want to prevent the movement I take the risk of applying the actions to messages that don't match the rules. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How to clear history lists in Address and Subject fields?
Hello Allie, > The ideal thing would be to make it optional Of course. That's the way to satisfy a wider range of users. > All my opinion of course. Don't get too annoyed either, since my > opinion counts as much as yours does with the developers. :)) I doubt that my opinion counts at all, I never write to developers or submit anything through the BugTrack thingy. So, unless they take a peek on this list... -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Zoot
Hi I'm looking at Zoot and Mailbag Assistant as ways of archiving my email from past clients and TheBat. I can get MA to work, but not Zoot. But Zoot will work with my news clients, so I think I'd prefer it. Jan (and anyone else) -- how do you get Zoot to work with TheBat!? And how do you keep it up to date? Thanks. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.demon.co.uk Co-owner UK-Schools mailing list: email me for details Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 'Known' Filter and adding address book
Hi Roelof, Wednesday, October 2, 2002, 9:58:29 PM, you wrote: > Hallo Doug, > On Wed, 02 Oct 2002 21:32:18 +0100GMT (2-10-02, 22:32 +0200GMT, where > I live), you wrote: DW>> I can't see how to add an address book to this. > You can't add address books to the known filter. It only uses the > default AB. > I can remember discussions on this list why somebody might want to > use multiple AB's. But most (if not all) advantages could be reached > by using multiple groups in an AB. > So why not place all of your contacts into one AB? They are all in one address book. The known filter has a big blank window with the heading 'Address books to check against.' I assume since there is nothing there, that explains why it doesn't seem to be checking anything. I've tried creating a new address book Jan, that makes no difference. Thanks anyway!. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.demon.co.uk Co-owner UK-Schools mailing list: email me for details Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Cannot *send* - error msg: Could not store the message
TBUDL, I have several accounts set up in the BAT. This morning everything was working fine on all accounts. They all are using my single SMTP server through my ISP. Each account pulls mail from different POP3 accounts. Currently, all other accounts are sending and receiving mail fine, but one account cannot send. I get the error message "Could not store the message" on a pop-up alert. I have searched through the help manuals and attempted to find something on the BAT site. I have renamed my MESSAGES.TBI files in each folder to OLD_MESSAGES.TBI with the BAT down. When I bring it back up, a new file is created, but the problem persists. I have validated that all parameters in the properties window are the same as the other eleven accounts in the BAT. Any help would be appreciated *tremendously*! -- Thanks, Alan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 'Known' Filter and adding address book
Hallo Doug, On Wed, 02 Oct 2002 21:32:18 +0100GMT (2-10-02, 22:32 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: DW> I can't see how to add an address book to this. You can't add address books to the known filter. It only uses the default AB. I can remember discussions on this list why somebody might want to use multiple AB's. But most (if not all) advantages could be reached by using multiple groups in an AB. So why not place all of your contacts into one AB? -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Sharing Filters
Hello Thomas, DTS>> Do you know where the Filters are stored? TF> In the files account.srx in your mail directories. Thanks .. I had though I looked there Guess i will have to write an app to maintain these a little easier -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using 'The Bat' 1.61 Using 'OS' Windows 2000 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:'Known' Filter and adding address book
Hi Doug. At 4:32 PM on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 you [DW] wrote the following about ''Known' Filter and adding address book': DW> I can't see how to add an address book to this. Nothing in the DW> help file, couldn't find anything in the archives useful. DW> I'm on version 1.61 at the moment, haven't used any betas for a DW> while. How about opening the Address Book. Click on File Click on New Address Book Does that help? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.61/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
'Known' Filter and adding address book
I can't see how to add an address book to this. Nothing in the help file, couldn't find anything in the archives useful. I'm on version 1.61 at the moment, haven't used any betas for a while. Thanks. Doug -- Doug's Archaeology Site http://www.ramtops.demon.co.uk Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sharing Filters
Hello David, On Wed, 2 Oct 2002 12:58:32 -0700 GMT (03/10/02, 02:58 +0700 GMT), David Tod Sigafoos wrote: DTS> Do you know where the Filters are stored? In the files account.srx in your mail directories. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy her friends? Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Memory lapse .... moving filters
Hello Carren, On Thu, 3 Oct 2002 06:57:43 +1200 GMT (03/10/02, 01:57 +0700 GMT), Carren Stuart wrote: CS> That filter was *not* duplicated/recreated or whatever in the new CS> account, so therefore any messages coming to the new address would CS> not have been filtered. I had to set my filters up again manually CS> for the new account. That is correct. Jonathan already explained how to copy the filter to the new account. CS> So, from what I can see, all TB! does in that situation is make an CS> adjustment to cover any interim mail still arriving in the "old" CS> account. It does not do *anything* within the "new" account. Correct again. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Avoid cliches like the plague (They're old hat.) Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Sharing Filters
Hello Miguel, Thanks for the reply on copying filters .. Do you know where the Filters are stored? -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using 'The Bat' 1.61 Using 'OS' Windows 2000 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to clear history lists in Address and Subject fields?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Miguel A. Urech [MAU] wrote:' MAU> I'd bet that very few times, like me. I could certainly live MAU> without Subject auto-complete. Address auto-complete is heavily MAU> used though. The point I'm making is that I could live without it as well but I can also live with it since it's not difficult to do so. Others may wish to use it. The ideal thing would be to make it optional, but getting around it is, IMO so trivial, that I'd more go for directing the developers attention to other more important things. All my opinion of course. Don't get too annoyed either, since my opinion counts as much as yours does with the developers. :)) - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 & WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (Win32) - GPGshell v2.60 iD8DBQE9m03eV8nrYCsHF+IRAonbAKD2KgoFeq0NoMveaD4vHtU/iLB3uACfXeDd NSHsKUfdWeeDV2IQ8gplOG8= =ynSY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Watch Threads
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Miguel A. Urech [MAU] wrote:' >> With the option disabled the first two pages of filter setup is >> basically ignored so no string matching is carried out, nor is >> the message moved. Only the filter actions are carried out. MAU> Oh darn! That's dangerous then! Well, no. Not if you understand how it works and then let it do what you need. Take for instance, the filters that I recently created to make editing a received message easy, even though you're exporting the message and then re-importing it. The first of the two filters needs to work on *any* message you wish it to. You therefore don't require a string match. You also don't wish the message to be moved to another folder, so you don't need the move to folder functionality. You can therefore disable the hotkey option to check the message against the filter rule. In contrast to this, I have a filter here that will generate a report that is sent to SpamCop. I also wish the message to be moved to my spam folder, if it's not already there. In this case, I wish the message to be moved when I run the filter using the hotkey. I therefore enabled the option to check the message against the filter rule. I am therefore happy that the option exists since you can use it to prevent or promote movement of messages upon filtering as you need. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 & WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (Win32) - GPGshell v2.60 iD8DBQE9m0xQV8nrYCsHF+IRAhyQAKC99vyCRbob3B/gZPS1GnBda7dMJwCg8luf S72UdtdQeCl0wHcL9/Hwqc0= =mgkt -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Memory lapse .... moving filters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, October 02, 2002, Carren Stuart wrote... > Here's what happened. When I moved the folders to another (but not a > NEW account) and then checked the original filters for the account > they had come from, the filters *had* altered BUT not entirely > correctly. In the destination folder entry, TB! had automatically > redirected the mail to the new account "Inbox" BUT that filter was > only ever going to work for any stray "changing of account" mail (the > few messages that would arrive to the old address before the > unsubscription was activated), because the source folder remained as > "inbox" for that account. So the source folder was staying the same and the destination was altering? This is what is supposed to happen, TB doesn't really know that you aren't just moving folders about. If you want to move the filters too, go into the filter dialog, select the one you want to copy over, and press CTRL C... then go into the other account's filter dialog, and press CTRL V. Now you have the same filter in both accounts. Is that the effect you're trying to achieve? - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPZtEbiuD6BT4/R9zEQJcXQCgus522rLZkMYnL0OTKsZdwQXEFaoAoNy+ mGVtluAwCUFidCLpd/HgHRQY =v5uV -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Memory lapse .... moving filters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 2 October 2002 at 10:42 p.m. Thomas wrote: TF> Wait a minute, I think I got this wrong the first time. So Carren TF> is moving (dragging) the folders within TB into another account. Yes, that is what I am doing! TF> The filters are being updated automatically over here. You know TF> how often I switch accounts for this list for example, and I TF> always just drag the TBUDL folder to the new account. I unsub from TF> the old account after the messages arrive via the new account, so TF> I have them twice in the same TBUDL folder for a while - and I did TF> not change anything in the TBUDL filter of the old account and the TF> messages matching the old account's TBUDL filter are sorted into TF> the TBUDL which is now located in the new account. TF> So, the filters are indeed updated even if you move the folders TF> across accounts. TF> Why it doesn't work on Carren's machine (nor yours?), I don't know. Here's what happened. When I moved the folders to another (but not a NEW account) and then checked the original filters for the account they had come from, the filters *had* altered BUT not entirely correctly. In the destination folder entry, TB! had automatically redirected the mail to the new account "Inbox" BUT that filter was only ever going to work for any stray "changing of account" mail (the few messages that would arrive to the old address before the unsubscription was activated), because the source folder remained as "inbox" for that account. That filter was *not* duplicated/recreated or whatever in the new account, so therefore any messages coming to the new address would not have been filtered. I had to set my filters up again manually for the new account. So, from what I can see, all TB! does in that situation is make an adjustment to cover any interim mail still arriving in the "old" account. It does not do *anything* within the "new" account. At least thats how it worked for me! :-) - -- Carren PGP public key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP_Key_&Body=Please%20send%20key -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (MingW32) - GPGshell v2.30 Comment: As long as one keeps searching the answers come Comment: ... but sometimes they are a long time coming! :-) iEYEARECAAYFAj2bQWgACgkQyogQhPvf03OaSgCgpqXCefwJ0+LJK+iwBmyyLGbr x+AAoJl6ctXEaqE9+g+mB4TGrd2+xSqB =nI4F -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sharing Filters
Hello David, > Is there any way to share filters between accounts? No. > There are several filters which I want in all accounts but do I really > have to create these in each account? No, create them in one. Then copy (Ctrl+C) the filter, open the Sorting Office for the other account(s) and paste (Ctrl+V) it. You may have to "adjust" the Source and Destination folder names if they are not exactly the same. Not a perfect solution but certainly much better than having to re-create each one from scratch. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Sharing Filters
Is there any way to share filters between accounts? There are several filters which I want in all accounts but do I really have to create these in each account? Where are the filters saved? what 'dos' file -- Best regards, David mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using 'The Bat' 1.61 Using 'OS' Windows 2000 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Macro about address book: it works, but...
Hallo Andrea, On Wed, 2 Oct 2002 14:10:28 +0200GMT (2-10-02, 14:10 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: PM>> If it works as a quick template, you can use it as such by typing PM>> %QINCLUDE="QT's handle" AS> I tried, but it doesn't work. It's very strange... You mentioned that it works for address book templates. Create a new address book group, define group templates for it with Marck's macro in it. Now add all entries in your AB to that group. Should work, works here. Still beats me why the macro doesn't work in account and folder templates. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: kludges header
Hi Joost, On Wednesday, October 02, 2002 15:10 your local time, (Wednesday, 18:55 my local time), you [JDK] wrote: JdK> I need to add a X-message-flag: to the header of my messages. JdK> Anyone any experience with add stuff to the header? Not experienced or aware of underlying issues, but you should be able to add/remove/modify headers using X-ray (www.xrayapp.com) I guess the other way would be to export a message, edit the headers with a text editor and import it back in. -- be well, Sudip Pokhrel |/"\ PM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185| X Against HTML E-mail ! http://pgpkeys.mit.edu|/ \ ___ Being right too soon is socially unacceptable. - Robert A. Heinlein ___ TB! v1.61 on XP Pro| P4-1.6Ghz 256MB RAM| Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How to clear history lists in Address and Subject fields?
Hello Allie, CS>> Personally, I see no point whatsoever in having autocompleted CS>> address fields. > > Ok, your view taken. However, this may not be shared by others. I've > personally used the option. :) I'd bet that very few times, like me. I could certainly live without Subject auto-complete. Address auto-complete is heavily used though. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Watch Threads
Hello Marck, MAU>> Are you saying this is WAD? > > No. I think that there are "anomalies" in the re-filter logic. I too > have often cursed the dumping of vast swathes of messages to the > inbox during a re-filter. It's no big problem anyway. If messages are moved to Inbox when doing a re-filter, all it takes to get them back to the proper folder is a re-filter of the Inbox itself. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Watch Threads
Hello Allie, > With the option disabled the first two pages of filter setup is > basically ignored so no string matching is carried out, nor is the > message moved. Only the filter actions are carried out. Oh darn! That's dangerous then! -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
kludges header
Hi I need to add a X-message-flag: to the header of my messages. Anyone any experience with add stuff to the header? Joost Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Watch Threads
Hello Thomas, > I don't know what is WAD, Working As Designed :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Macro about address book: it works, but...
Dear friends, I post my reply to Peter's answer... Do you have some good ideas? Hi Peter, tnaks a lot for your kindness in answering me. PM> If it works as a quick template, you can use it as such by typing PM> %QINCLUDE="QT's handle" I tried, but it doesn't work. It's very strange... If I choose a contact from address book and then use the quick template the macro changes the LAST NAME, FIRST NAME in FIRST NAME (as I want), but If I use it as account's new message template it does nothing. Any idea? Regards, Andrea -- Andrea Sartorati - Padova [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Guarda quel cielo scuro, vedrai che cambiera' quel che sembrava piu' nero domani brillera'" (Massimo Bubola, "Sandy) Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to clear history lists in Address and Subject fields?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Carren Stuart [CS] wrote:' CS> That will also turn off autocomplete for the address field too CS> though. It would be nice to be able to disable one without the CS> other. I would prefer to keep autocomplete "ON" for addresses, CS> but "OFF" for subject. I agree that it would be nice to have one enabled but not the other, though it really doesn't bother me either way. CS> Personally, I see no point whatsoever in having autocompleted CS> address fields. Ok, your view taken. However, this may not be shared by others. I've personally used the option. :) CS> How often do you write emails with exactly the same subject CS> line? Rarely. It's also not often that I'm typing a subject and the auto-complete kicks in. On the odd occasion it does, I just continue type my subject and if a auto-complete string is still there, I just hit delete and move to the next field. Rather painless. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 & WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (Win32) - GPGshell v2.60 iD8DBQE9mt1OV8nrYCsHF+IRAn2UAKCEIAAJUQaCA3P3mMghhUfSP3ZgqwCg0zHX j1chmPb2SOuiHvRjsDhaW4U= =xM89 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Rebooted My Computer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris Montgomery [CM] wrote:' CM> You could be right, but I'm still a bit suspicious. My system CM> suddenly rebooted itself twice before, a couple of weeks ago. CM> Both times I was working in TB, although I can't remember what I CM> was doing at the time. I concur with Lars that this isn't a TB! problem and that it's a faulty driver. NT/2k/XP will not be brought down TB! malfunctions. If TB! crashes, it will crash all alone. My XP system here was miserable when I just got it. It would blue screen *regularly*. It was distressing. It would do so, usually while browsing the internet. However, the bluescreen writings did mention a display driver dll. It turns out that I needed to update my motherboard BIOS and display drivers to fix the problem. Since fixing it ... not a single blue screen. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 & WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (Win32) - GPGshell v2.60 iD8DBQE9mtq/V8nrYCsHF+IRAkEhAKC9iukblT5zS5Nh+Fa45TOQ3ZdGVgCfSPAt jN5gh6Q+7hO3LZcQER4N33I= =xv/b -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem Synching with Palm
Hey Sudip, My MUA believes 'The_Bat!' was used to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, October 2, 2002 at 12:04:44 AM. SP> How's the AB conduit project coming on? Kind of stalled at the moment, real life issues got in the way... However, I think most of the foundation work is done! SP> Any plans on adding mail functionality to the conduit? No, at this point it is just AB. Mostly because the native MAPI mail sync seems to work. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! eMail v1.61 Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) Out of my mind...Back in five minutes. Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Watch Threads
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Miguel A. Urech [MAU] wrote:' MAU> In my specific case, my incoming Ignore filter (almost the same MAU> that your Watch one) is set for Inbox->Inbox. It works normally MAU> for incoming messages and it is my Tbudl filter the one that MAU> moves messages to TBUDL folder. Now, if I Re-Filter my TBUDL MAU> folder the messages that match the Ignore rules *are* moved to MAU> Inbox. However, if I execute my Ignore filter with the keyboard MAU> shortcut on one or more messages in TBUDL folder, the messages MAU> *are not* moved to Inbox. This is possible if you don't have the option 'check the selected message against this rule' enabled for the hotkey. If you have the option enabled then the message is checked for a string match and moved to the destination folder. With the option disabled the first two pages of filter setup is basically ignored so no string matching is carried out, nor is the message moved. Only the filter actions are carried out. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 & WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (Win32) - GPGshell v2.60 iD8DBQE9mthWV8nrYCsHF+IRArsMAKCoz9h/yz/+ODtQ7dmzgks4z4PwZQCfZ/9J 6nX7UQR5JQd2p2u090oxAdI= =TS36 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Watch Threads
Hello Marck, On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, at 02:15:28 [GMT +0100] (which was 9:15:28 PM in NY, USA) Marck D Pearlstone wrote: JS>> IOW, if you leave it alone, TB never moves the message at all. JS>> But if you actively configure it to move the message to the JS>> inbox, then it actually does? > Manually invoked filters that check against rules will move a > message from a folder to the Inbox. So that's one circumstance under > which a "No move" filter does move. So, yes, exceptions can be > induced. Actually, I meant _manually re-configured_ but I think you may have answered the question anyway. More importantly though, I've found that this oddity / feature is kind of a bonus when considering my original intent which was basically to be made more aware of threads I'm interested in. I have a safe copy with the same formatting intended sent to the proper folder and a "hey look at me" copy in the Inbox. Clutter? Not at all since I now know I can delete the ones in the Inbox at will and refer to the entire thread in the proper folder when necessary. Granted, I could set a highlight, flag, and copy filter instead to achieve the same. But it's a nice little discovery just the same. -- Best regards, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stamp-co.com The Bat! v.1.62/Beta1 Windows XP build 2600 AMD Athlon 1Ghz 1.0 Gb RAM Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Memory lapse .... moving filters
Hello Marck, On Wed, 2 Oct 2002 11:19:00 +0100 GMT (02/10/02, 17:19 +0700 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: CS>> I have moved a set of folders from one account to another. I CS>> thought the filters corresponding to that set of folders would CS>> automatically move to the new account with all filters altered CS>> accordingly, but they don't seem to have done that. MDP> Filters only change automatically when folders are moved *within* MDP> an account, not to a completely different account. Wait a minute, I think I got this wrong the first time. So Carren is moving (dragging) the folders within TB into another account. The filters are being updated automatically over here. You know how often I switch accounts for this list for example, and I always just drag the TBUDL folder to the new account. I unsub from the old account after the messages arrive via the new account, so I have them twice in the same TBUDL folder for a while - and I did not change anything in the TBUDL filter of the old account and the messages matching the old account's TBUDL filter are sorted into the TBUDL which is now located in the new account. So, the filters are indeed updated even if you move the folders across accounts. Why it doesn't work on Carren's machine (nor yours?), I don't know. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. 18. Donald Duck's middle name is Fauntleroy. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Watch Threads
Hello Miguel, On Wed, 2 Oct 2002 09:10:32 +0200 GMT (02/10/02, 14:10 +0700 GMT), Miguel A. Urech wrote: MAU> Now, if I Re-Filter my TBUDL folder the messages that match the MAU> Ignore rules *are* moved to Inbox. However, if I execute my MAU> Ignore filter with the keyboard shortcut on one or more messages MAU> in TBUDL folder, the messages *are not* moved to Inbox. MAU> Are you saying this is WAD? I don't know what is WAD, but I'd say it is inconsistent at least. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Salmon day: Swimming upstream all day to get screwed in the end. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Watch Threads
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Miguel, @2-Oct-2002, 09:10 +0200 (08:10 UK time) Miguel A. Urech [MAU] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: MAU> ... if I Re-Filter my TBUDL folder the messages that match the MAU> Ignore rules *are* moved to Inbox. However, if I execute my MAU> Ignore filter with the keyboard shortcut on one or more MAU> messages in TBUDL folder, the messages *are not* moved to MAU> Inbox. MAU> Are you saying this is WAD? No. I think that there are "anomalies" in the re-filter logic. I too have often cursed the dumping of vast swathes of messages to the inbox during a re-filter. I try to avoid a re-filter unless absolutely necessary. If I'm trying to make a specific filter do a specific job, I rend to add it as a temporary filter at the top of the list before re-filtering. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta5 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQE9msuIOeQkq5KdzaARArWzAJ9aXb8P6yblJlH8tiWlp9cawIVngQCg14ND 8+vyIzKZml3d8tp0mhS6SjE= =pbPw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Memory lapse .... moving filters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Carren, @2-Oct-2002, 14:27 +1200 (03:27 UK time) Carren Stuart [CS] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: CS> Sorry ... I know this has been covered before but I can't CS> remember the answer! I don't remember one exactly like this. CS> I have moved a set of folders from one account to another. I CS> thought the filters corresponding to that set of folders would CS> automatically move to the new account with all filters altered CS> accordingly, but they don't seem to have done that. Filters only change automatically when folders are moved *within* an account, not to a completely different account. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta5 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQE9msgVOeQkq5KdzaARApzOAJ9+vjWHEtatv5iqEQlimVpxgMvs4QCggsaj rnmNY/tkRjbljhrHDPTIQW4= =ZTtH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: How to clear history lists in Address and Subject fields?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, 2 October 2002 at 2:39 p.m. I wrote: CS> Personally, I see no point whatsoever in having autocompleted CS> address fields. How often do you write emails with exactly the CS> same subject line? JMHO! Sorry! Major typo here should read "autocompleted SUBJECT fields". Might make sense then! :-) - -- Carren PGP public key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP_Key_&Body=Please%20send%20key -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (MingW32) - GPGshell v2.30 Comment: As long as one keeps searching the answers come Comment: ... but sometimes they are a long time coming! :-) iEYEARECAAYFAj2aqIEACgkQyogQhPvf03ORDACgsEqJmdmCQEE30TzPH2tyRkJ5 0poAoNIhkNUHRFjhHVp1rXkhXOMhpkBY =7S1M -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Rebooted My Computer
Hi Batpersons, On or about, Wednesday, October 2, 2002, 1:56:39 AM, we have reason to believe that Chris Montgomery wrote: CM> I just typed a short message to my father and attached two Excel (.xls) CM> files to it. When I clicked on the "Send the letter" icon, my computer CM> rebooted. After it restarted, I sent a test message to myself with the CM> two attached files and then successfully sent the message with files to CM> my father. CM> Anyone else seen behavior like that? It was weird, like pressing the CM> reset button on the front of my computer. I've seen something like it, but not with TB. It was a while ago, and IIRC it was some kind of dial-up problem. Is it possible that the problem arises when TB connects (however you do that in your case) to the network to send the message. That might indicate a problem in the network/modem/usb/serial drivers. -- Best regards, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60c on Windows XP Build 2600 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html