Re: Keeping Address Book Current

2002-11-23 Thread Keith Russell
Hi, Marck.

On Sun, 24 Nov 2002 01:57:51 + GMT your local time, which was
Saturday, November 23, 2002, 6:57 PM -0700 GMT here,
you wrote:


KR>> So how about my last question? Can anyone tell me why I was
KR>> unable to move my address book from TB to Outlook Express?

> You should at least be able to do this as vCards. Did you try that?

vCard doesn't seem to be an option in OE import, Marck

  
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Re: Keeping Address Book Current

2002-11-23 Thread Keith Russell
Hi, Roelof.

On Sun, 24 Nov 2002 01:55:01 +0100 GMT your local time, which was
Saturday, November 23, 2002, 5:55 PM -0700 GMT here,
you wrote:

> * Replies will be sent through Spamex to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> * For additional info click -> http://www.spamex.com/i/?v=410414

> Hallo Keith,

> On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 16:57:56 -0700GMT (24-11-02, 0:57 +0100GMT, where
> I live), you wrote:

KR>> So how about my last question? Can anyone tell me why I was unable to
KR>> move my address book from TB to Outlook Express?

> Export from TB to ldif, import from ldif to OE.

  Thanks, Roelof, but as I explained in my first message, this was
  what I tried to do, and as far as I could tell, the OE address book
  was still empty

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Re: Keeping Address Book Current

2002-11-23 Thread Paul Cartwright

On Saturday, November 23, 2002, 7:55 PM, you wrote:


KR>> So how about my last question? Can anyone tell me why I was unable to
KR>> move my address book from TB to Outlook Express?

RO> Export from TB to ldif, import from ldif to OE.

I was able to export TBs addressbook to LDIF and import to Sylpheed
claws, at least the export feature works:)


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Re: Keeping Address Book Current

2002-11-23 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
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Hi Keith,

@23-Nov-2002, 16:57 -0700 (23:57 UK time) Keith Russell [KR] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

KR> So how about my last question? Can anyone tell me why I was
KR> unable to move my address book from TB to Outlook Express?

You should at least be able to do this as vCards. Did you try that?

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Re: Keeping Address Book Current

2002-11-23 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Keith,

On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 16:57:56 -0700GMT (24-11-02, 0:57 +0100GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

KR> So how about my last question? Can anyone tell me why I was unable to
KR> move my address book from TB to Outlook Express?

Export from TB to ldif, import from ldif to OE.

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Re: Keeping Address Book Current

2002-11-23 Thread Keith Russell
Since no one replied to my earlier message I assume no one is using
any of these programs.

So how about my last question? Can anyone tell me why I was unable to
move my address book from TB to Outlook Express?

Thanks.
  
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Re: Receive Mail Password.

2002-11-23 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi Barry2

On Saturday, November 23, 2002 05:13 your local time, which was Friday,
November 22, 2002 at 21:13 my local time, Barry2 Barry2 [B] wrote;

CW>> Oh yeah, anther quick question, how come the red underline is
CW>> sometimes of a different style?

B> The wavy red line is for words not in your spelling checker - the
B> square red line is for words that are in the spell checker but you've
B> typed with a common error ( like getting i and e switched ) or words
B> that you have set up a known substitute for .

B> E.G.

B> dhdioqai gets a wavy line.

B> beleive gets a square line.

B> In my copy of TB! efhoppe gets a square line since I've set it up to
B> change to Earl ( one of my e-mail contacts on another list )

B> Also when you right click on a word with a square line underneath you
B> will only get one option to change to instead of a suggested 'best
B> match' list.

B> Got it ?

All makes sense now.

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Re: Receive Mail Password.

2002-11-23 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi Daniel

On Saturday, November 23, 2002 12:07 your local time, which was Friday,
November 22, 2002 at 17:07 my local time, Daniel Hirning [DH] wrote;

DH> HA!  how funny - of course something so 'stupid' has never happened
DH> to me ;-)

DH> Give  Snadboy?s  Revelation  a  go,  it can (sometimes) reveal what
DH> is under the * in a text box.

I downloaded Snadboys Revelation and it works a treat. What a great
program!

Hopefully I want have much call for it, but it's good to know it's there
if I need it.

I also downloaded PINs as recommended by Simon and am using that, so
hopefully shouldn't have the problem again.

Cheers,

Chris.

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Re: Receive Mail Password.

2002-11-23 Thread Chris Weaven
Hi Simon

On Saturday, November 23, 2002 13:18 your local time, which was 05:18 my
local time, Simon Simon wrote;

> That's  what I did as well until I discovered PINS quite a while back.
> "PINs is  OSI  Certified  Open Source Software. It's freeware". I've
> been using it for  ages  now, and it requires no installation, so is
> fully portable, which means  you can stash it on a memory card (or
> just the PIN password file(s)). Uses  448bit  Blowfish,  and  of
> course if you want to lock the lock you can always PGP swipe it
> afterwards as well :)

> http://www.mirekw.com/winfreeware/pins.html

Thanks for the link. I've downloaded it and slapped all my passwords etc
in there.

Once bitten, twice shy!

Cheers,

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Re: SMTP login problem

2002-11-23 Thread Scott Frederick
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Hello Melissa,

Saturday, November 23, 2002, 11:06:43 AM, you wrote:

MR> Have you considered upgrading your TB! to v1.61 to see if that
MR> would make any difference?

OK, I have upgraded, reset the Transport settings to what I was given
by the administrator and it seems to work now.

Thanks for helping with this.

MR> Another option you might want to consider is to run your own local
MR> SMTP server...like "Mercury":

MR> http://www.pmail.com/overviews/ovw_mercury.htm

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Re[2]: Receive Mail Password.

2002-11-23 Thread DG Raftery Sr.
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Saturday, November 23, 2002
3:23:57 PM
RE: "Receive Mail Password."

Greetings Carsten,

On Saturday, November 23, 2002, 5:08:11 AM, you wrote:

CT> * Chris Weaven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> The problem is, I can't remember my receive mail password and I can't
>> copy and paste it from TB! to mailwasher, as TB! doesn't allow the
>> copying of the password.
>>
>> Is there anyway I can find out what my password is?

Revelation 2.0 at http://www.snadboy.com/

Hasn't failed me yet in unobscuring a * password box.

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Re: SMTP login problem

2002-11-23 Thread Scott Frederick
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Hello Melissa,

Saturday, November 23, 2002, 11:06:43 AM, you wrote:

MR> Have you considered upgrading your TB! to v1.61 to see if that
MR> would make any difference?

I will try that now. Usually I hang a version or two behind the
bleeding edge unless there is a need.

MR> Another option you might want to consider is to run your own local
MR> SMTP server...like "Mercury":

The problem has been worked around, so I probably won't need to go
that far yet.

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Re: SMTP login problem

2002-11-23 Thread Melissa Reese
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On Saturday, November 23, 2002, at 10:39:20 AM PST, Scott Frederick
wrote:

> There is no mail.whatever in my Transport settings but the server
> logs show that The Bat! is sending it with mail added.

That's very peculiar...I've never experienced that problem. Have you
considered upgrading your TB! to v1.61 to see if that would make any
difference?

Another option you might want to consider is to run your own local
SMTP server...like "Mercury":

http://www.pmail.com/overviews/ovw_mercury.htm

Melissa
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Re: SMTP login problem

2002-11-23 Thread Scott Frederick
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Hello Melissa,

Saturday, November 23, 2002, 10:34:08 AM, you wrote:

MR> You can easily change it to whatever the proper server name is. If
MR> you didn't make the adjustment when you first created the account,
MR> you can go to "Account Properties/Transport" and change it there.

There is no mail.whatever in my Transport settings but the server logs
show that The Bat! is sending it with mail added.

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Re: SMTP login problem

2002-11-23 Thread Melissa Reese
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On Saturday, November 23, 2002, at 9:47:11 AM PST, Scott Frederick
wrote:

> Some of the accounts require "mail" to be in front of the server
> name and others do not. It seems as though The Bat! is adding "mail"
> when it is not there, causing a login failure on those accounts.

Hi Scott,

Perhaps when you're first setting up an account, TB! will, in an
attempt to save you some time, put the often used "mail..." in as part
of the *assumed* server name.  However...this is really only a
suggestion on the part of TB!

You can easily change it to whatever the proper server name is.  If
you didn't make the adjustment when you first created the account, you
can go to "Account Properties/Transport" and change it there.

Melissa
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Re: SMTP login problem

2002-11-23 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Scott,

on Sat, 23 Nov 2002 09:47:11 -0800GMT (23.11.02, 18:47 +0100GMT here),
you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

SF> Some of the accounts require "mail" to be in front of the server name
SF> and others do not. It seems as though The Bat! is adding "mail" when
SF> it is not there, causing a login failure on those accounts.

I don't believe this. Some of my accounts use auth.smtp.provider.com and it
works without problems. Actually, this message will be sent by The Bat!
without any "mail" in the SMTP-server's name... :-)

There must be another reason for this problem.

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SMTP login problem

2002-11-23 Thread Scott Frederick
Hello TBUDL,

I have been having problems setting up a couple of accounts with a
particular provider that requires SMTP login.

Some of the accounts require "mail" to be in front of the server name
and others do not. It seems as though The Bat! is adding "mail" when
it is not there, causing a login failure on those accounts. This
problem has been worked around for now, but I wonder if The Bat! is
behaving badly in this instance.

I am pasting below part of a message with log file that I was sent
by the system administrator.

> Aha look what I found in my DNS log
> 
> 2002-11-03 22:16:07.335818500 cfc2a103:0b1c:9816 + 0001
> mail.dpac.kics.bc.ca
> 
> 2002-11-19 17:21:40.346449500 cfc2a103:0f43:2c64 + 0001
> mail.watertalk.org 2002-11-20 17:10:04.912392500 cfc2a103:0f43:a408
> + 0001 mail.watertalk.org 2002-11-21 19:00:35.155772500
> ccf46603:fc7d:2706 + 00ff mail.watertalk.org.kics.bc.ca
> 
> Is your clever mail program secretly putting "mail." in front of
> whatever you type in the "SMTP server" box? mail.kics.bc.ca exists
> but there is no mail.watertalk.org. If so, when the second-guess
> fails, I guess it forgets to fall back on the first guess. And it
> doesn't mention a server name anywhere in its log messages. Oops.
> You might want to tell the vendor about that so they can fix it.
> Meanwhile I guess you should use kics.bc.ca.

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Re: Receive Mail Password.

2002-11-23 Thread Simon
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'Lo Allie,

On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 06:15:52 -0500 your time, you said:

ACM> Nowadays,  except for a couple very commonly used passphrases, I commit
ACM> only  my  PGP  passphrase  to memory. The rest are in an encrypted text
ACM> format.  Whenever  I  need to remind myself, I just check the encrypted
ACM> file.

That's  what I did as well until I discovered PINS quite a while back. "PINs
is  OSI  Certified  Open Source Software. It's freeware". I've been using it
for  ages  now, and it requires no installation, so is fully portable, which
means  you can stash it on a memory card (or just the PIN password file(s)).
Uses  448bit  Blowfish,  and  of course if you want to lock the lock you can
always PGP swipe it afterwards as well :)

http://www.mirekw.com/winfreeware/pins.html


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Re: What's up with the list?

2002-11-23 Thread Johannes Posel
Dear DG,

On 15:29 22.11.2002, you [DG Raftery Sr.
([EMAIL PROTECTED])] wrote...

> Twice in the past 2 days I have responded to a message here and it
> appears the list is hacking apart my messages.

This is very unusual, the list server isn't a human where being nice
counts ;)

> Any ideas because it appears to me that it's adding the list info on
> the bottom but raising hell with my PGP sigs.

2002-11-03 07:03:49 188Do0-00029U-0F == [EMAIL PROTECTED] T=remote_smtp 
defer (110): Connection timed out
2002-11-03 07:04:07 188DoX-0002Ad-06 == [EMAIL PROTECTED] T=remote_smtp 
defer (110): Connection timed out
2002-11-03 07:14:10 188Do0-00029U-0F == [EMAIL PROTECTED] T=remote_smtp 
defer (-44): retry time not reached for any host
2002-11-03 07:14:14 188DoX-0002Ad-06 == [EMAIL PROTECTED] T=remote_smtp 
defer (-44): retry time not reached for any host
2002-11-03 07:15:52 188DoX-0002Ad-06 == [EMAIL PROTECTED] T=remote_smtp 
defer (-44): retry time not reached for any host
2002-11-03 07:15:52 188Do0-00029U-0F == [EMAIL PROTECTED] T=remote_smtp 
defer (-44): retry time not reached for any host
2002-11-03 07:23:56 188DoX-0002Ad-06 => [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=lookuphost 
T=remote_smtp H=smtp.myrealbox.com [192.108.102.204]*
2002-11-03 07:23:59 188Do0-00029U-0F => [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=lookuphost 
T=remote_smtp H=smtp.myrealbox.com [192.108.102.204]*

This happens quite often, it seems that myrealbox.com does not cope
with the "load", if you can call this a load, that we're putting on
them. We have a few mrb.com subscribers, and around 25% of the
conections are dropped *or* and I think this will be interesting for
you are redirected to a secondary MX:

2002-11-22 16:36:34 18FFqu-0001J4-04 -> [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=lookuphost 
T=remote_smtp H=mail.digitalme.com [193.97.97.75]
2002-11-22 16:37:30 18FFru-0001KS-03 -> [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=lookuphost 
T=remote_smtp H=mail.digitalme.com [193.97.97.75]

I think your mails are there ;) Just wait until mrb will fetch them
and you should be fine.

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Re: Receive Mail Password.

2002-11-23 Thread Allie C Martin
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Thomas Fernandez [TF] wrote:'

TF> Why not create a plain-text file called "allmypasswords.txt"? ;-)

Nowadays, except for a couple very commonly used passphrases, I
commit only my PGP passphrase to memory. The rest are in an
encrypted text format. Whenever I need to remind myself, I just
check the encrypted file.

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Re: Receive Mail Password.

2002-11-23 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Carsten,

On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 11:08:11 +0100 GMT (23/11/02, 17:08 +0700 GMT),
Carsten Thönges wrote:

> *But* for the next time: there is a memo section for free text
> entries in the Account properties dialog. A nice place to write down
> your mail passwords...

Why not create a plain-text file called "allmypasswords.txt"? ;-)

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Re: Receive Mail Password.

2002-11-23 Thread Carsten Thönges
* Chris Weaven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The problem is, I can't remember my receive mail password and I can't
> copy and paste it from TB! to mailwasher, as TB! doesn't allow the
> copying of the password.
>
> Is there anyway I can find out what my password is?

I don't know :-(

*But* for the next time: there is a memo section for free text
entries in the Account properties dialog. A nice place to write down
your mail passwords...

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Re: (SOT) Use of Re: in the subject line

2002-11-23 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Thomas!

1: "Shavian" is the adjective of Shaw; it is used specifically to name
an alphabet G.B. Shaw advised for the English language.

2: "ghoti" is - as was, despite a typo by me, correctly identified -
"fish", the prime example of Shaw's why the English spelling needs a
reform. "gh" from "tough", "o" from "women", "ti" from "nation".



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