Re: A way to modify _incoming_ mail

2003-03-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Miguel,

On Sat, 1 Mar 2003 15:46:18 +0100 GMT (01/03/03, 21:46 +0700 GMT),
Miguel A. Urech wrote:

 No, the fact that I never thought about modigying the subject of an
 incoming message, and that I don't understand the need to do so,
 doesn't mean I'm against the feature. I may think that there are
 higher priority features to include in TB though.

I would think this has a higher priority than a scheuduler or an
HTML-editor, especially since writing the code for it can be done
quickly. But that's only my opinion. ;-)

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Re: Attachments Separately or in Message Base?

2003-03-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Doug,

On Sat, 1 Mar 2003 18:21:45 -0800 GMT (02/03/03, 09:21 +0700 GMT),
Doug Gannon wrote:

 I guess my real concern was that The Bat might slow down when having
 to access a large message base.  I imagined clicking on a folder on
 the left of the window only to have to wait for several seconds for
 The Bat to read the contents in order to display the list of messages
 on the right.  But then, maybe I'm not understanding how things work
 in The Bat.

 Do you think that a message base that has gotten large from
 attachments, etc. would slow down The Bat?  

I keep attachments in the message base. My biggest folder has a
message base that is currently around 59 MB big (is that big?). There
is no noticeable slow-down when I open the folder.

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Re: plugin for the bat!: vampire

2003-03-02 Thread Paul Cartwright

On Sunday, March 2, 2003, 12:13 AM, you wrote:

TC   in http://fyberger.tripod.com/vampire/vampire.htm you can find a
TC   anti-spam plug'in for the bat! (1.63 beta 3 or earlier)

very nice, but what is it and what does it do? The web page said to
download it, but there was no info on the product, and the authors web
page was in Spanish ( Chilean?).


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Re: plugin for the bat!: vampire

2003-03-02 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
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Hi Paul,

@2-Mar-2003, 07:46 -0500 (12:46 UK time) Paul Cartwright said:

TC   in http://fyberger.tripod.com/vampire/vampire.htm you can find a
TC   anti-spam plug'in for the bat! (1.63 beta 3 or earlier)

 very nice, but what is it and what does it do? The web page said to
 download it, but there was no info on the product, and the authors web
 page was in Spanish ( Chilean?).

Announcement here is a little premature. This is a plug-in for the
new TB Anti-SPAM plug in in the 1.63 beta series.

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Re[2]: plugin for the bat!: vampire

2003-03-02 Thread Task Control
Estimados seguidores del tbudl arroba thebat.dutaint.com:


En relación a lo que Marck en su momento posteó:

TC   in http://fyberger.tripod.com/vampire/vampire.htm you can find a
TC   anti-spam plug'in for the bat! (1.63 beta 3 or earlier)

 very nice, but what is it and what does it do? The web page said to
 download it, but there was no info on the product, and the authors web
 page was in Spanish ( Chilean?).

MDP Announcement here is a little premature. This is a plug-in for the
MDP new TB Anti-SPAM plug in in the 1.63 beta series.
¿Ups, i'm sorry?

¿did you know some list to discuss about beta versions?

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Re[2]: plugin for the bat!: vampire

2003-03-02 Thread Task Control
Estimados seguidores del tbudl arroba thebat.dutaint.com:

En relación a lo que Paul en su momento posteó:

PC very nice, but what is it
It is a plug'in for the new The Bat 1.63+ Series, and this the bat
versions are in beta testing now. (currently Beta7)

PC and what does it do?
Scan yours mail message and if it find any spam, it kill it. The User
need configure and define the rules to know when some mail is spam.
Some mail can be suspect to spam, the user define it's again. And this
mails will be puted in a junk mail folder (you can rescue it).

PC The  web  page  said  to download it, but there was no info on the
PC product,
When you was installed it, you can see a readme file.

PC and the authors web page was in Spanish ( Chilean?).
Yeah, Chilean, The southest country in america (pacific ocean side)

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Re[3]: plugin for the bat!: vampire

2003-03-02 Thread Charlie Law
Hello Task,

Sunday, March 2, 2003, 2:32:32 PM, you wrote:


TC ¿did you know some list to discuss about beta versions?

Yes. You can subscribe to tbbeta by sending an e-mail to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: plugin for the bat!: vampire

2003-03-02 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Task,

On Sun, 2 Mar 2003 10:32:32 -0400 GMT (02/03/03, 21:32 +0700 GMT),
Task Control wrote:

MDP Announcement here is a little premature. This is a plug-in for the
MDP new TB Anti-SPAM plug in in the 1.63 beta series.
 ¿Ups, i'm sorry?

 ¿did you know some list to discuss about beta versions?

Send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put the word
subscribe in the subject.

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Re: plugin for the bat!: vampire

2003-03-02 Thread Paul Cartwright

On Sunday, March 2, 2003, 7:58 AM, you wrote:


TC   in http://fyberger.tripod.com/vampire/vampire.htm you can find a
TC   anti-spam plug'in for the bat! (1.63 beta 3 or earlier)


MDP Announcement here is a little premature. This is a plug-in for the
MDP new TB Anti-SPAM plug in in the 1.63 beta series.

then this should be going on in TBBETA :)

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Re: LIKELY SPAM: Re[2]: plugin for the bat!: vampire

2003-03-02 Thread ztrader
You might find this interesting - your email is thought to be spam
according to a good spam filter. :-) I've included the filter analysis
part so you can see why.

ztrader

On Sunday, March 2, 2003, 6:39:16 AM, Task Control wrote:

TC SPAM:  Start SpamAssassin results --
TC SPAM: This mail is probably spam.  The original message has been altered
TC SPAM: so you can recognise or block similar unwanted mail in future.
TC SPAM: See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details.
TC SPAM: 
TC SPAM: Content analysis details:   (7.60 hits, 5 required)
TC SPAM: IN_REP_TO  (-0.8 points) Found a In-Reply-To header
TC SPAM: REFERENCES (-0.5 points) Has a valid-looking References header
TC SPAM: USER_AGENT_THEBAT  (0.3 points)  X-Mailer header indicates a non-spam MUA 
(The Bat!)
TC SPAM: SPAM_PHRASE_00_01  (0.8 points)  BODY: Spam phrases score is 00 to 01 (low)
TC SPAM:[score: 0]
TC SPAM: SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE (-0.3 points) Long signature present (empty lines)
TC SPAM: RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM (0.4 points)  RBL: Received via a relay in 
relays.osirusoft.com
TC SPAM:[RBL check: found 49.58.62.200.relays.osirusoft.com., 
type: 127.0.0.4]
TC SPAM: RCVD_IN_RFCI   (2.3 points)  RBL: Received via a relay in 
ipwhois.rfc-ignorant.org
TC SPAM:[RBL check: found 49.58.62.200.ipwhois.rfc-ignorant.org., 
type: 127.0.0.6]
TC SPAM: RCVD_IN_SBL(3.2 points)  RBL: Received via SBLed relay, see 
http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/
TC SPAM:[RBL check: found 49.58.62.200.sbl.spamhaus.org.]
TC SPAM: X_OSIRU_SPAM_SRC   (2.7 points)  RBL: DNSBL: sender is Confirmed Spam Source
TC SPAM: AWL(-0.5 points) AWL: Auto-whitelist adjustment
TC SPAM: 
TC SPAM:  End of SpamAssassin results -

TC Estimados seguidores del tbudl arroba thebat.dutaint.com:

TC En relación a lo que Paul en su momento posteó:

PC very nice, but what is it
TC It is a plug'in for the new The Bat 1.63+ Series, and this the bat
TC versions are in beta testing now. (currently Beta7)

PC and what does it do?
TC Scan yours mail message and if it find any spam, it kill it. The User
TC need configure and define the rules to know when some mail is spam.
TC Some mail can be suspect to spam, the user define it's again. And this
TC mails will be puted in a junk mail folder (you can rescue it).

PC The  web  page  said  to download it, but there was no info on the
PC product,
TC When you was installed it, you can see a readme file.

PC and the authors web page was in Spanish ( Chilean?).
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Re: LIKELY SPAM: Re[2]: plugin for the bat!: vampire

2003-03-02 Thread Paul Cartwright

On Sunday, March 2, 2003, 12:36 PM, you wrote:

z You might find this interesting - your email is thought to be spam
z according to a good spam filter. :-) I've included the filter analysis
z part so you can see why.
  SPAM: X_OSIRU_SPAM_SRC   (2.7 points)  RBL: DNSBL: sender is Confirmed Spam Source

  so, I am a confirmed spam source:) cool!
  I'm not sure I understand exactly why my email got caught, sorry, it
  still doesn't make much sense.

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Re: LIKELY SPAM: Re[2]: plugin for the bat!: vampire

2003-03-02 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hello ztrader,

 You might find this interesting - your email is thought to be spam
 according to a good spam filter. :-) I've included the filter analysis
 part so you can see why.

Well, then the filter perhaps is not that good :-) It wasn't flagged as
spam by my POPFile which is running on 99.43% accuracy.

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Re: LIKELY SPAM: Re[2]: plugin for the bat!: vampire

2003-03-02 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hello Paul,

   so, I am a confirmed spam source:) cool!
   I'm not sure I understand exactly why my email got caught, sorry, it
   still doesn't make much sense.

No, you are not a spammer. It wasn't your message Paul, it was the one
sent by Task Control :)

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Re: Attachments Separately or in Message Base?

2003-03-02 Thread Mark Wieder
Doug-

And one more comment, since this hasn't been covered yet:

If you store your attachments in a separate folder, as I do, then what
gets stored with the message is a pointer to the attachment in the
external folder. If you move the message to another account or folder
the pointer doesn't change, so there's no problem there.

I find that keeping my attachments separate does indeed make things
faster, maybe because I'm accessing my email storage over a network
rather than on my own machine. It's also better for my peace of mind -
I've had a couple of corrupted message databases that I can directly
link to embedded binary attachments.

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Re[2]: LIKELY SPAM: Re[2]: plugin for the bat!: vampire

2003-03-02 Thread Task Control
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En relación a lo que ztrader en su momento posteó:

z I've included the filter analysis part so you can see why.
I analzie this but o do not understand why.

z SPAM: SPAM_PHRASE_00_01  (0.8 points)  BODY: Spam phrases score is 00 to 01 (low)
z SPAM: RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM (0.4 points)  RBL: Received via
z SPAM: RCVD_IN_RFCI   (2.3 points)  RBL: Received via a
z relay in ipwhois.rfc-ignorant.org
z SPAM: RCVD_IN_SBL(3.2 points)  RBL: Received via
z SBLed relay, see http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/
The route that follow the mail? can i change this? i think not.

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Re[2]: Attachments Separately or in Message Base?

2003-03-02 Thread Doug Gannon
Hello Mark,

Thanks for the information about pointers to attachments.  That makes
sense to me.  I'm going to try one account with attachments stored in
the message base and another with the same attachments in a separate
directory to see if there's a noticeable difference.

 If you store your attachments in a separate folder, as I do, then what
 gets stored with the message is a pointer to the attachment in the
 external folder. If you move the message to another account or folder
 the pointer doesn't change, so there's no problem there.

This did work for me.  When I moved a message with an attachment to
another account, I could open the attachment even though the
file was still located in the original account's directory.  However,
when I then deleted the message that I had moved, and emptied the
trash folder, the attachment did not get deleted from it's original
location.  And yes, both accounts were set up to remove attachments
when the message was deleted.

This isn't a big problem or anything, but it looks like I'd probably
want to keep messages in their original accounts if I decide to store
attachments in a separate directory.  I guess I'm just too lazy to
want to have to delete attachments manually. grin

 I find that keeping my attachments separate does indeed make things
 faster, maybe because I'm accessing my email storage over a network
 rather than on my own machine. It's also better for my peace of mind -
 I've had a couple of corrupted message databases that I can directly
 link to embedded binary attachments.

You make an interesting point about corrupted message bases.  I wonder
how often that happens and how often it can be repaired.  I'll just
have to try it both ways and see which one feels more comfortable for
me.

Thanks again for the comments.

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Re[2]: LIKELY SPAM: Re[2]: plugin for the bat!: vampire

2003-03-02 Thread ztrader
On Sunday, March 2, 2003, 11:14:57 AM, Miguel A. Urech wrote:

MAU Hello ztrader,

 You might find this interesting - your email is thought to be spam
 according to a good spam filter. :-) I've included the filter analysis
 part so you can see why.

MAU Well, then the filter perhaps is not that good :-) It wasn't flagged as
MAU spam by my POPFile which is running on 99.43% accuracy.

I get 500-600 emails a day, and it typically misplaces only one email
every 1-3 days - not bad, I'd say. Also, I have it set 'tight' so it
is more likely to have a false positive (as this was) than to pollute
an otherwise good folder.

I just sent it along to let the writer know the items that were
causing it to get flagged. There was a bit of humor because the writer
was talking about an anti-spam program.

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Re: LIKELY SPAM: Re[2]: LIKELY SPAM: Re[2]: plugin for the bat!:vampire

2003-03-02 Thread ztrader
On Sunday, March 2, 2003, 1:22:55 PM, Task Control wrote:

TC Estimados seguidores del tbudl arroba thebat.dutaint.com:

TC En relación a lo que ztrader en su momento posteó:

z I've included the filter analysis part so you can see why.
TC I analzie this but o do not understand why.

z SPAM: SPAM_PHRASE_00_01  (0.8 points)  BODY: Spam phrases score is 00 to 01 (low)
z SPAM: RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM (0.4 points)  RBL: Received via
z SPAM: RCVD_IN_RFCI   (2.3 points)  RBL: Received via a
z relay in ipwhois.rfc-ignorant.org
z SPAM: RCVD_IN_SBL(3.2 points)  RBL: Received via
z SBLed relay, see http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/
TC The route that follow the mail? can i change this? i think not.

It seems as though most of the 'score' is from your routing. Without
the routing, your email would be a rather low score and would get
through easily. You might ask your ISP why they are using a confirmed
spammer route, and forward the above headers to them to help them
check it out.

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Re: LIKELY SPAM: Re[2]: LIKELY SPAM: Re[2]: plugin for the bat!:vampire

2003-03-02 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
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Hi ztrader,

@2-Mar-2003, 14:38 -0800 (22:38 UK time) ztrader [Z] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

TC The route that follow the mail? can i change this? i think not.

Z It seems as though most of the 'score' is from your routing. Without
Z the routing, your email would be a rather low score and would get
Z through easily. You might ask your ISP why they are using a confirmed
Z spammer route, and forward the above headers to them to help them
Z check it out.

FYI - Osiris also BLs Dial-up users like me so this message will get
a positive score from them too. It's a *bad* test!

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Re: Stupid problem with quoted names

2003-03-02 Thread Carsten Thönges
* Miguel A. Urech writes:
 Hello Marck,

 There's your problem. Do this instead.

 Hello %OFROMFNAME,%-
 %TO=''%TO='%OFROMNAME [EMAIL PROTECTED]'%-
 %REPLYTO=''%REPLYTO='Some Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED]'

 The %OFROMNAME macro excludes the double quotes (and should).

 I've tried that, but then every Name in the To field will appear in
 between quotes. I know that is no problem, but I thought I could avoid
 it.

Maybe this one helps you. Its actual purpose is to add list names to
the To-address when replying. The first %IF checks for the existence
of characters in From-name that make quoting neccessary.

,
| %IF:%-
| %SETPATTREGEXP='[\.\@,;;\\\(\)\[\]]'%REGEXPMATCH='%OFromName'=%-
| :#%-
| %TO=''%-
| %TO=_%CAPITAL='%OFROMNAME' on %-
| %ABoreplyHANDLE='%ABoreplyNAME'%-
|  %OREPLYADDR_#%-
| :#%-
| %TO=''%-
| %TO=_%CAPITAL='%OFROMNAME' on %-
| %ABoreplyHANDLE='%ABoreplyNAME'%-
|  %OREPLYADDR_%-
| #%-
`

(listname is stored in handle field of the address book)

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Re[2]: LIKELY SPAM: Re[2]: LIKELY SPAM: Re[2]: plugin for the bat!:vampire

2003-03-02 Thread ztrader
On Sunday, March 2, 2003, 2:54:50 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

MDP FYI - Osiris also BLs Dial-up users like me

Why do they do that?

MDP so this message will
MDP get a positive score from them too. It's a *bad* test!

The score for your message was only 0.7, with 5.0 as the trigger -
reasonably low. It would seem as though there were enough other
factors to compensate for the Osiris factor. Some factors are
negative, and subtract from an otherwise high score from routing.

There was a rather big discussion about including Osiris, etc in the
scoring. Many seemed to be innocent users who had an ISP that was not
good about curtailing spam. Most people thought it would, overall, be
a good idea to keep it, and so I left the usual BL suspects in. This
was in part because I wanted a 'tight' scoring, but it seems to work
very well even with these included.

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Re: LIKELY SPAM: Re[2]: LIKELY SPAM: Re[2]: plugin for the bat!:vampire

2003-03-02 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
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Hi ztrader,

@2-Mar-2003, 16:01 -0800 (00:01 UK time) ztrader [Z] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

MDP FYI - Osiris also BLs Dial-up users like me

Z Why do they do that?

Because the *nix propeller heads that think they own the Internet
don't think that any serious mail server user should hide behind a
dial-up connection. One such runs monkeys.com, a major open relay
blacklist, and goes by the name of Ron Guilmette. I got a major
roasting from him because of my dial-up IP and sub-hosted domain
status.

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Re: Timeout...or something

2003-03-02 Thread Anne
Saturday, March 1, 2003, 8:25:02 PM,Michael wrote:

MLW   I have five email accounts.  When I press Alt-F2, The Bat
MLW starts to check them.  It always gets the first three or four, but
MLW cannot
MLW get the last one.  The strange thing is that it always checks them
MLW in a different order, so the last one or two that are left with an
MLW error are different.  It seems that the bat does not have enough time
MLW to check all five. Any ideas?


Are they all with the same ISP/mail provider? If so it may be that
you're only being allowed so many connections to the pop server at one
time. I have this on my domain's mail server - it will only allow
three connections at the same time, so I have to check the 7 accounts
on it in batches of three.

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Re: plugin for the bat!: vampire

2003-03-02 Thread Task Control
Estimados seguidores del tbudl arroba thebat.dutaint.com:


En relación a lo que Task en su momento posteó:

in http://fyberger.tripod.com/vampire/vampire.htm betas page you can
find the last beta version of vampire,

  News:
  - new filters language, now you can mix the parts of the mail. See help
in configurator.
  - size of mail filter (prevent's big mail crash)
  - external images filter
  - vampire to vampirex automatic migrate software
  - software to check and edit your filters


  


TC   in http://fyberger.tripod.com/vampire/vampire.htm you can find a
TC   anti-spam plug'in for the bat! (1.63 beta 3 or earlier)

TC   Enjoy it!

TC   Warning: Body and Attachment filters support are not ready in The
TC   Bat! yet (1.63Beta7)



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better searching msgs

2003-03-02 Thread Aaron Green
I went to Mozilla mail for some time and really liked--no, LOVED--the
ability to type a string at the top of a message list and instantly
have the msg list filtered to only msgs that contained that string in
the subject or sender...

The Quick Search has always been frustrating b/c there's no find
next...

Would love a search feature similar to that of Mozilla mail. Thanks.


Best regards,
Aaron


Aaron Green, MD
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

From a marketing perspective, you don't introduce new products in August.
  --White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card, explaining the administration's decision 
to wait until after labor day to push for war with Iraq



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Re: better searching msgs

2003-03-02 Thread Task Control
Estimados seguidores del tbudl arroba thebat.dutaint.com:

En relación a lo que Aaron en su momento posteó:

AG The Quick Search has always been frustrating b/c there's no find
AG next...

The quick search has a find next open the quick search, write your
saearch, when you find anything, only press [CTRL]+[ENTER] and the
quick search will go to the next.

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Re[3]: Attachments Separately or in Message Base?

2003-03-02 Thread Mark Wieder
Doug-

Sunday, March 2, 2003, 2:16:40 PM, you wrote:

DG file was still located in the original account's directory.  However,
DG when I then deleted the message that I had moved, and emptied the
DG trash folder, the attachment did not get deleted from it's original
DG location.  And yes, both accounts were set up to remove attachments
DG when the message was deleted.

I have to admit I haven't checked to see if this has happened to me,
but I wouldn't bet against it. TB *should* just be able to use the
pointer, so on the surface it doesn't seem to make sense that the
attachment wouldn't get deleted, but it should be filed as a bug if
you can verify it happening.

One caveat that I should point out: if you have an account that is
keeping attachments inline and you then switch it to storing them
externally, it only takes effect from that point on. In other words,
any previously received messages with attachments still have them
inline. This hasn't caused any problems as far as I can tell, but it's
annoying not to be able to move the existing ones out of the database.

DG You make an interesting point about corrupted message bases.  I wonder
DG how often that happens and how often it can be repaired.  I'll just
DG have to try it both ways and see which one feels more comfortable for
DG me.

It's pretty rare, but I had to do some serious surgery to correct it
when it happened. I only have one that I haven't been able to repair
so far - one message has a bad CRC that stays bad no matter how many
times I fix it. I'm still working on that one. It's a minor problem
since the rest of that database works fine.

-Mark Wieder

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Re[2]: LIKELY SPAM: Re[2]: LIKELY SPAM: Re[2]: plugin for the bat!:vampire

2003-03-02 Thread Mark Wieder
Marck-

ROTFL. Methinks ignorance and arrogance are two major prerequisites
for attaining ISPdom.

I think this subject line is getting a little out of hand, too...

-Mark Wieder

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Re[2]: better searching msgs

2003-03-02 Thread Aaron Green
Task,

TC The quick search has a find next open the quick search, write
TC your saearch, when you find anything, only press [CTRL]+[ENTER]

Oh :)

But it's still nice instantly to see all 50 msgs that might contain
that text b/c then you can find immediately exactly what it is you
wanted to find!



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Re[2]: LIKELY SPAM: Re[2]: LIKELY SPAM: Re[2]: plugin for the bat!:vampire

2003-03-02 Thread ztrader
On Sunday, March 2, 2003, 4:24:59 PM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

MDP Because the *nix propeller heads that think they own the Internet
MDP don't think that any serious mail server user should hide behind
MDP a dial-up connection.

I can believe that. An unfortunately large number of *nix people are
not known for having open minds. :-

ztrader



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Re: LIKELY SPAM: (was: plugin for the bat!: vampire)

2003-03-02 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hello Task,

On Sunday, March 2, 2003 at 10:22:55 PM you [TC]wrote (at least in
part):

z SPAM: RCVD_IN_SBL(3.2 points)  RBL: Received via
z SBLed relay, see http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/

TC The route that follow the mail? can i change this? i think not.

No. But you can point your ISP to

http://spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL6652
and
http://spews.org/html/S331.html

and he taking the appropriate actions to be delisted at there.
Osirusoft is in fact a argumentative database, but the IP listed there
contained in your mails is not in the database for being a dial-up IP,
but a spammer hosting one like Spamhaus states too.

So in this case you're the innocent victim of your ISPs actions.
-- 
Regards
Peter Palmreuther
(The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1)

Bother said Pooh, as he destroyed New Hampshire.



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