RE:TB! & Hotmail & Yahoo mail
Hello Thomas, Saturday, August 16, 2003, 6:58:51 AM, you wrote: >> same version here. >> I get the error 'pop authenticate before sending mails'. > I don't know that software, but it sounds like a message from the SMTP > server: you need to authenticate yourself before they allow you to > send. In TB, I would suggest to click "POP before SMTP". that dost not work :-( -- Regards, Jurgen Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/index.html Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keep messages in the base for n days
Hello Paul, On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 22:19:54 +0100 GMT (16/08/2003, 04:19 +0700 GMT), Paul Richardson wrote: >> you could set your list folder to not expire messages at all > Better, IMO. Then I could copy or delete the entire thread "manually". I have set the expiration to 180 days. Haven't found a mailing-list thread that ran longer than that... ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Next Sunday a special collection will be taken to defray the cost of the new carpet. All those wishing to do something on the new carpet will come forward and do so. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! & Hotmail & Yahoo mail
Hello Jurgen, On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 21:22:13 +0200 GMT (16/08/2003, 02:22 +0700 GMT), Jurgen Haug wrote: >> I am using Version 0.5 June 13th, 2003. > same version here. > I get the error 'pop authenticate before sending mails'. I don't know that software, but it sounds like a message from the SMTP server: you need to authenticate yourself before they allow you to send. In TB, I would suggest to click "POP before SMTP". -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Follow your dream! Unless it's the one where you're at work in your underwear during a fire drill. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ToggleBat
>>As long as the Bat's living down in the system tray, is there any way >>to make clicking that icon toggle the window state (i.e. minimize The >>Bat! if its window is already open)? >A light-colored bar just to the right of my Start icon has a Bat icon >on it when the application is running. Right-clicking this bar gives >me a menu for Close, Minimize, and Restore. Of course, that's two >clicks to toggle. This is just the standard taskbar icon. If I wasn't using the tray icon, I'd use this, which DOES toggle twixt minimized and restored view. I just thought the tray icon made sense for something as frequently used as email, especially with the animated new message indicator. >A right-click on the Bat icon on the far right offers "minimize" plus >a host of other menu choices, including "check mail" and "exit." Had >you noticed those? Wow, I actually didn't. It's interesting that while both Restore and Minimise[sic] actions are at the top of the context menu, "Restore" is set as a default (mouse click) action, whereas "Minimise" is not. If they could simply map Minimize as the default click action when the window is open (it can obviously detect this since Minimise appears there rather than Restore), that'd do the trick. Hey, make it a selectable option in Preferences (like Trillian) and then everyone will be happy. Not a big deal as far as features go, just something that would make that tray icon really nice to use. -- zParticle Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Keep messages in the base for n days
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Good [morning|afternoon|day|evening|night] Paul, PR> It strikes me this could be somewhat inconvenient. Then you should park the threads you are interested in. This way, messages won't get deleted by purging. - -- Regards, Stefan ...Blessed is the end-user who expects nothing, for ye shall not be disappointed. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQIVAwUBPz2L1BdVrmjoEBv9AQH38A//TOCptFMEygZ/h8uUJO19jgjYTM10HjvL swIBRA1IjvFrLNBRj4msWH8bWFmuG1PqujeSe4VLu5IDb6yLxo9pzivsHt+bjORh xmNg2Q4/RIKKarcrvRkp1qGpygVuXVSPLtmW9Y4HmB+thNdFrm3X5n0Bua0vcZZW Sml5tQUkgaa3XYVxjU3TUOJqKmGV+gtikEk9vYK01a+RUKQrnXEsh3Xls+MEbnQB dHvbQrsBtOghgztEzN+3zdgBB64Va2qM78sk7Hk+aG4Y7Bxvkwhzh2qOSsrMiIQu PnMiGJuLy9gUTpEqEYLftij4t/nkEDT86XFdeKBbkfWpkfTs5KQ0GB1yM1LwqwIG uH21nzDqbzkPF2Ax15lLIx/PCe8B9JxUZB3vkApkJLNwcj8x4VC8XB+uHOBvhaJB d5aX6lB5DGDuTHquQQz9ln8Ryz5yL1+Wqx2i36z9AZMXcHaNvqnyVgOFZrcZhCyy U7x2Pok0qie9sMU68fyTsw2LUVCmTzxbdT+zPMxGS2jYoWB2tUajZkR1SeWnmeQ5 OwSuK+FRXV9df7Vkudhf1Gdx/cYkOALy6fpDeM4TOpAHt8iOQ6qbsKj3SVvlV81m PeZNfUQdtC3f9lRCyIQrp1AYegvyXHPITHnryHbV4oJOgv/7oJ663C8uZx6/4cyF bXcP9XgYFPk= =GwQd -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ToggleBat
Hello zParticle! On Friday, August 15, 2003, 6:04 PM, you wrote, in part: z> As long as the Bat's living down in the system tray, is there any way z> to make clicking that icon toggle the window state (i.e. minimize The z> Bat! if its window is already open)? A light-colored bar just to the right of my Start icon has a Bat icon on it when the application is running. Right-clicking this bar gives me a menu for Close, Minimize, and Restore. Of course, that's two clicks to toggle. A right-click on the Bat icon on the far right offers "minimize" plus a host of other menu choices, including "check mail" and "exit." Had you noticed those? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
ToggleBat
As long as the Bat's living down in the system tray, is there any way to make clicking that icon toggle the window state (i.e. minimize The Bat! if its window is already open)? This would be much quicker for simply scanning headers when new mail arrives, rather than having to move the mouse to the opposite side of the screen just to send it back home. Most of my other tray apps behave this way--it's very efficient. -- zParticle Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB! & Hotmail & Yahoo mail
Hi Jurgen: JH> I get the error 'pop authenticate before sending mails'. Hmm...never saw that...are you running something else on those ports? I am running Hotmail Popper and YahooPop. However, Hotmail Popper seemed to suffer when I had both utilities running on the same ports. I had to switch the ports (pop3 and SMTP) on Hotmail Popper from 110 and 25 to 8110 and 825. I am not sure if running something like SpamPal or other service on the same ports would create a conflict. Perhaps changing the ports might help. I can't think of any other issues. - Ricardo Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keep messages in the base for n days
Peter Meyns wrote: > Why is that? TBH, I suppose mainly because my previous e-mail client did not split threads in this way; it wouldn't delete until the last message passed the sell-by date. > If I want to save a thread, I copy it to my "archive" > folder, and let the mailing list continue its purging on time. Which of course splits the thread. > you could set your list folder to not expire messages at all Better, IMO. Then I could copy or delete the entire thread "manually". It's not a huge problem, of course, just something that might have been more thoughtfully designed, IMO. Anyway, thanks for your help: it's saved me finding out the hard way! -- Paul Richardson Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Address Book Blank
Hi all, Today when opening TheBat and attempting to write an e-mail, I noticed that all addresses in my address book had disappeared, except for the default TheBat! Team address. It's as if the address book reset to default on its own. Fortunately, I had made a recent backup and imported it. Has anyone ever seen this behavior with TheBat? I'm using version 1.62q Personal Edition. Thanks in advance for your help. -- Best regards, Kim Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic sending of mail
Hello all, Friday, August 15, 2003, Bob Brunson wrote: > Is there a method to have Bat send out mail at a given time that is > already composed and sitting in the out box? In 1.62 version You can use windows scheduller and commandline parametres of The Bat!, look to help file for commands description. In 2.0 is implemented scheduller, which allows to create message, send/receive messages in specified time etc. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 2.0 preBeta/2 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 AMD ThunderBird 1,2 GHz, 512 MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keep messages in the base for n days
Hi Paul, on Fri, 15 Aug 2003 21:05:44 +0100GMT (15.08.03, 22:05 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : >> Yes, indeed. It will mark the messages out of range as "deleted", and >> with the next "Purge and compress" they will be actually deleted. PR> It strikes me this could be somewhat inconvenient. Why is that? If I want to save a thread, I copy it to my "archive" folder, and let the mailing list continue its purging on time. Otherwise you could set your list folder to not expire messages at all. ? -- Cheers Peter "Pepsi Brings You Back to Life" was translated into Chinese as "Pepsi Brings Your Ancestors Back from the Grave." Winamp currently playing: Mamas and the Papas - California Dreaming Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keep messages in the base for n days
Peter Meyns wrote: > Yes, indeed. It will mark the messages out of range as "deleted", and > with the next "Purge and compress" they will be actually deleted. TVM It strikes me this could be somewhat inconvenient. -- Paul Richardson Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Automatic sending of mail
Is there a method to have Bat send out mail at a given time that is already composed and sitting in the out box? -- Best regards, Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keep messages in the base for n days
Hi Paul, on Fri, 15 Aug 2003 20:38:44 +0100GMT (15.08.03, 21:38 +0200GMT here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : PR> If this setting is exceeded, will TB split an existing thread, PR> removing those that exceed it and keeping those that do not? Yes, indeed. It will mark the messages out of range as "deleted", and with the next "Purge and compress" they will be actually deleted. -- Cheers Peter A truly happy person is one who can enjoy the scenery on a detour. Winamp currently playing: Aimee Mann - One Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Keep messages in the base for n days
If this setting is exceeded, will TB split an existing thread, removing those that exceed it and keeping those that do not? Nothing in the Help file again. -- Paul Richardson Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! & Hotmail & Yahoo mail
On Friday, August 15, 2003, 3:06 PM, you wrote: JH>> how do you send mails with YahooPops? I can't. RM> 1) Double-click the YahooPops tray icon to open the the configuration window. RM> 2) Click on "Advanced Settings" RM> 3) Select "Network" submenu RM> 4) Bind on I.P. Address = 127.0.0.1 RM>Pop port = 110 RM>Enable SMTP = checked RM>SMTP port = 25 in my case that would send the mail thru my local Mercury SMTP server:) I already have web2pop setup and working, and untill it breaks I don't think I want to change, but I'll keep yahoopops handy!! of course if web2pop breaks, yahoopops will probably break at the same time... -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE:TB! & Hotmail & Yahoo mail
Hello Ricardo, Friday, August 15, 2003, 9:13:41 PM, you wrote: > I am using Version 0.5 June 13th, 2003. same version here. I get the error 'pop authenticate before sending mails'. -- Regards, Jurgen Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/index.html Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: TB! & Hotmail & Yahoo mail
Hi Ricardo: RM> Hi Jurgen: RM> Just in case: I am using Version 0.5 June 19th, 2003. Sorry... I am using Version 0.5 June 13th, 2003. - Ricardo Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB! & Hotmail & Yahoo mail
Hi Jurgen: >> I tried YahooPops and Hotmail Popper based on recommendations here and >> I am very pleased. Not only are they free, and pretty stable, but I >> can also send mail through these clients. Web2pop, on the other >> hand, must be registered and does not provide SMTP service. JH> how do you send mails with YahooPops? I can't. 1) Double-click the YahooPops tray icon to open the the configuration window. 2) Click on "Advanced Settings" 3) Select "Network" submenu 4) Bind on I.P. Address = 127.0.0.1 Pop port = 110 Enable SMTP = checked SMTP port = 25 You can even use secure login: 1) Do steps 1 and 2 above 2) Select "Security" submenu 3) "Connect in secure (HTTPS) mode" = checked Checking mail takes a while however. Just in case: I am using Version 0.5 June 19th, 2003. - Ricardo Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TB Wins Again In Battle Against HTML Spam
Howdy, Thought some of you might be interested in this article: http://www.ecommercetimes.com/perl/story/31343.html A snippet: "O'Hearn says he blames the current spam crisis -- by some estimates, spam makes up 50 percent or more of all e-mail -- on the enhancement of e-mail with HTML. "In the pure protocol of e-mail, you could read your messages without fear of downloading viruses," he said. "However, vendors like Microsoft have decided to enhance that by giving you automatic HTML in your e-mail, so you can download things you don't want without knowing it." Ninety-five percent of all spam, and 99 percent of pornographic spam, is offered in HTML format, according to the SurfControl press release." I knew there was a reason I like TB! Cheers. -- Chris Montgomery Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TB! & Hotmail & Yahoo mail
Hi David: Spike>> The author of web2pop has ignored my repeated Spike>> requests for information or a Spike>> fix, which is pretty shabby considering I PAID for the privilege! Can Spike>> anyone provide some enlightenment on this? Alternatives for Yahoo?? DS> Try YahooPops! Available at the sourceforge website. I've been using it DS> to download my sister's message bases. Last Sunday we downloaded 250 messages DS> from her 'sent' folder. Worked just fine. I tried YahooPops and Hotmail Popper based on recommendations here and I am very pleased. Not only are they free, and pretty stable, but I can also send mail through these clients. Web2pop, on the other hand, must be registered and does not provide SMTP service. Now I can use my Yahoo and Hotmail accounts to respond to other newsletters and less reputable mailing lists without exposing my "preferred e-mail addresses. Thanks to everyone for the tips! - Ricardo Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
RE:TB! & Hotmail & Yahoo mail
Hello Ricardo, Friday, August 15, 2003, 7:42:39 PM, you wrote: > I tried YahooPops and Hotmail Popper based on recommendations here and > I am very pleased. Not only are they free, and pretty stable, but I > can also send mail through these clients. Web2pop, on the other > hand, must be registered and does not provide SMTP service. how do you send mails with YahooPops? I can't. -- Regards, Jurgen Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/index.html Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB! & Hotmail & Yahoo mail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi David, @14-Aug-2003, 21:32 -0600 (04:32 UK time) David Shepherd [DS] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Spike: DS> Try YahooPops! Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out David. This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one part of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. Thank you. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.0 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPzyZGznkJKuSnc2gEQIvcQCgg2vBFwXmG1bodiMbyhwxFiBUPdAAn3rH eu0nAuU0BTBss543QeVjuOcz =wh7/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: NOT: Was Re: diary
On Friday, 15 August 2003, at 12:07:18 p.m., Roelof Otten wrote: AJ>> I would have thought you would *always* go to the server when AJ>> working with the addresses? > I don't know whether it's a bug or a feature. ;-) > When you're accessing a local LDAP server, you might prefer a regular > updating of TB's cache, but when you're accessing an LDAP server on > the Internet (especially via a dial-up connection), you might prefer > TB to keep the search result in a cache, until you decide to start a > new search Hmmm. I suppose so. I deleted all the LDAP address books that come with TB!, so I can't have a play. Anybody have settings for a useful directory that I can try out? -- Regards, Allister. Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
