Re: Can you Park a thread?
Hello Bill, DWG Is it possible to park a collapsed thread. You can probably set up a hotkey, though. Please explain how. In folder view Alt+F12 | Expand Messages | Expand Thread | Select Park and hit the hotkeys you want. You probably want to set up Unpark at the same time. -- Best regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Automatic Backup ?
I want to know if there is any way to get TB to autoback up in to an archive say every 10 days without user intervention ? Please explain how.. Thanks eBast - Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can you Park a thread?
On Tue 26-Aug-03 8:06pm -0400, Greg Strong wrote: DWG Is it possible to park a collapsed thread. You can probably set up a hotkey, though. Please explain how. In folder view Alt+F12 | Expand Messages | Expand Thread | Select Park and hit the hotkeys you want. You probably want to set up Unpark at the same time. Thanks Greg, but that's called a shortcut. A hotkey (not to be confused with a System Hot Key) is used to activate a manual filter. Parking through a filter is easy but doesn't apply to the full thread as the OP seemed to imply. -- Best regards, Bill Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: S/MIME vs PGP
Marck- Tuesday, August 26, 2003, 10:22:33 AM, you wrote: MDP signatures would most likely be using up-to-date TB software. You MDP are clearly an exception :-). Sheesh. It figures. I'll have to upgrade to v2 some day. I've been waiting around to make sure it doesn't mess up anybody's files. The funny is that I've been switching beta versions around to check out the macro-defining functions but I've still been using beta7 as my main app. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Vote for The Bat! :-)
Marek- Tuesday, August 26, 2003, 10:34:09 AM, you wrote: Right now, TB and Outlook are running neck-and-neck for second place, with about 17% each. Outlook Express has a depressing 43%. -- -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can you Park a thread?
Hello Bill, In folder view Alt+F12 | Expand Messages | Expand Thread | Select Park and hit the hotkeys you want. You probably want to set up Unpark at the same time. Thanks Greg, but that's called a shortcut. A hotkey (not to be confused with a System Hot Key) is used to activate a manual filter. Parking through a filter is easy but doesn't apply to the full thread as the OP seemed to imply. Maybe I missed something was wrong. I thought the context of this thread was parking an entire collapsed thread. Hot Key is applicable to filters. My mistake! -- Best regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Vote for The Bat! :-)
Hello Marek, No sooner said than done - I was supposed to vote for TB, wasn't I? -- Regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Tuesday, August 26, 2003, 6:34:09 PM, you wrote: MM Hello, MM here You can vote for Your favourite mailer :-) MM http://www.techconnect.ws/modules.php?name=SurveyspollID=8 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: OT: Vote for The Bat! :-)
Hello David, Wednesday, August 27, 2003, 8:36:18 AM, you wrote: DA No sooner said than done - I was supposed to vote for TB, wasn't I? Ooops. I voted for OE. I'm suprised at how well TB! is doing, I know it's the ebst mailer in the world but I was suprised that so many other people do. -- Jamie Dainton [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: OT: Vote for The Bat! :-)
Hello Jamie, It could be partly due to the fact that so many writers in the UK computer magazines (PC Pro and PCW) say that it is the best. -- Regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Wednesday, August 27, 2003, 9:33:51 AM, you wrote: JD Hello David, JD Wednesday, August 27, 2003, 8:36:18 AM, you wrote: DA No sooner said than done - I was supposed to vote for TB, wasn't I? JD Ooops. I voted for OE. JD I'm suprised at how well TB! is doing, I know it's the ebst mailer in JD the world but I was suprised that so many other people do. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Keyboard shortcut for collapse/expand thread
Hellow fellow bats, the subject says it all I think... is there such a shortcut? Thanks -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: OT: Vote for The Bat! :-)
It seems that Jamie Dainton said ... J I'm suprised at how well TB! is doing, I know it's the ebst mailer in J the world but I was suprised that so many other people do. An announcement to a group such as this can skew the results a bit. But that's OK. Maybe it will convince more people to look at it. TB could own the power users (maybe it already does) and better documentation could bring more average users in. -- Bill Blinn Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 8/27/2003 at 6:55 AM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: One day I shall burst my bud of calm and blossom forth into hysteria. Featured speaker at PowerPoint Live - Tucson, Arizona October 12-15, 2003 - http://www.pptlive.com/ Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Vote for The Bat! :-)
Hello David Thank you for your email dated Wednesday, August 27, 2003, 10:06:17 AM, in which you wrote: DA It could be partly due to the fact that so many writers in the UK DA computer magazines (PC Pro and PCW) say that it is the best. They also put their money where their mouths are and use it. -- Regards William http://www.residues.info and http://www.magiric.com Flying with The Bat! www.ritlabs.com/the_bat Windows 2000 Pro 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can you Park a thread?
Hello Bill, Tuesday, August 26, 2003, 6:25:55 PM, you wrote: On Sat 23-Aug-03 12:38am -0400, Joseph N. wrote: You can probably set up a hotkey, though. Please explain how. Find the option Edit Shortcuts in the View menu. -- Best regards, Daniel Rail Senior System Engineer ACCRA Group Inc. (www.accra.ca) ACCRA Med Software Inc. (www.filopto.com) Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keyboard shortcut for collapse/expand thread
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A the subject says it all I think... is there such a shortcut? Well ctrl-shift-left/right and ctrl-shift+/- do it for me (so to speak). - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com ... Nothing is more intolerable than to have to admit to yourself your own errors. - Beethoven -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 iQA/AwUBP0yQEdttnLhkydF1EQKVCwCgn5Xf67ZS/MaK+pd8MXb+quiuWwQAoIqy eS1vOkcnWYPLLTNQZtDL6gf9 =UK0d -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: OT: Vote for The Bat! :-)
Wednesday, August 27, 2003, 12:53:48 AM, you wrote: MW Marek- MW Tuesday, August 26, 2003, 10:34:09 AM, you wrote: MW Right now, TB and Outlook are running neck-and-neck for second place, MW with about 17% each. Outlook Express has a depressing 43%. Which goes to show the pole is based on pure, simple popularity not on power or function -- after all, Outlook express is superior to Outlook / TB only in price. OE receives the most votes not because it's 'best' or 'favorite' but because it comes pre-installed on nearly all Windows systems. No extra money to worry about. Now, they need a pole that says Can your mail client do THIS? followed by a series of check boxes describing a few basic and not-so-basic features followed by What mail client do you use? Funny how the results will show so many using clients that do so little whereas TB users results will reflect perfection -- after all, what -can't- TB do? -- One of my poems chosen at random specifically for you: http://jarday.com/Loosely%20inspired/Morning%20Bells.shtml Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Vote for The Bat! :-)
Hello Allen, On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 14:26 Lithuanian Time, you wrote: A after all, what -can't- TB do? The Bat! can't do Unicode. And also it can't do some other multilanguage related stuff. -- Edvis Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Vote for The Bat! :-)
Allen wrote: after all, what -can't- TB do? Provide information on how to use its features. -- Paul Richardson Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Vote for The Bat! :-)
On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, 5:06:17 AM, David Anderson wrote: DA It could be partly due to the fact that so many writers in the UK DA computer magazines (PC Pro and PCW) say that it is the best. Not always tho...it was an article in a UK pc mag (might have been PCPro, I can't remember, it was one of those thick ones filled with ads anyway G) which was very effusive over TB that made me download it to have a look - , like the reviewer, I was hooked within days :-) BTW the poll doesn't ask which client is the best, just which one people *use*. Given that OE comes free with Windows, I don't think its current standing (39.66%) is terribly impressive. TB is currently in second place, with 21.45% of the votes, with Outhouse in third with 16.15%. -- Deborah Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: OT: Vote for The Bat! :-)
Wednesday, August 27, 2003, 7:49:19 AM, you wrote: PR Allen wrote: after all, what -can't- TB do? PR Provide information on how to use its features. This much is true . . . so novice users would mark not sure when polled on the abilities of their client . . . You're right, though, the documentation is quite lacking. Allen Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OT: Software patents and shareware future
I was checking in on my favorite file manager http://www.ghisler.com/ and was redirected to http://swpat.ffii.org shortly after a brief message about Christian's protest effort. Do you think the panic is warranted? We in the US have had this sort of big fish - little fish situation for some time I think and it's hard to really see clearly how much or what loss has occurred because of software patenting. All I know at this point is how frustrating it is to have people write programs that rely on MS IE and other 'non monopolistic' freebie programs that are infused in windows.. sigh. It's becoming very tiresome trying to assemble a suite of core applications on my lean OS setup that don't require some more crap from the microsoft pasta machine. Pixie -- Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/4 on Windows 95 4.0 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can you Park a thread?
On Tue 26-Aug-03 7:07pm -0400, Daniel Rail wrote: Tuesday, August 26, 2003, 6:25:55 PM, you wrote: On Sat 23-Aug-03 12:38am -0400, Joseph N. wrote: You can probably set up a hotkey, though. Please explain how. Find the option Edit Shortcuts in the View menu. You can't set a hotkey from Edit Shortcuts. That's for setting a shortcut. A hotkey (not to be confused with a system hotkey) is set from the Option tab of a filter in the Sorting Office. Joseph N suggested a hotkey, not a shortcut. I was merely questioning how - I can't do it with a hotkey, only a shortcut. BTW, does anyone know how to unpark a message (not a whole tread) from a hotkey? [Please don't suggest using a shortcut - unparking is just one of the things I want to do, such as change back the color group.] -- Best regards, Bill Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Wishlist item for scrutiny
I'd like to see the message auto-view supplemented with an option, if turned on, make the message view panel actually be automatic. ..only show if a message is clicked on, and expand the message list account list panels full height otherwise. Pixie -- Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/4 on Windows 95 4.0 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Keyboard shortcut for collapse/expand thread
Wednesday, August 27, 2003, 7:03:37 AM, Stuart wrote: A the subject says it all I think... is there such a shortcut? S Well ctrl-shift-left/right and ctrl-shift+/- do it for me (so to S speak). Thanks! I've been looking for this. Is there a way to expand all parts of a thread entirely? -- Dave Kennedy Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can you Park a thread?
Hello Bill, Joseph N suggested a hotkey, not a shortcut. I was merely questioning how - I can't do it with a hotkey, only a shortcut. Maybe Joseph N made the same mistake that Daniel and myself made only in reverse. It is an easy mistake to call a hotkey a shortcut, and vice a versa. -- Best regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keyboard shortcut for collapse/expand thread
Hello Dave, Is there a way to expand all parts of a thread entirely? Cnrl+keypad+ -- Best regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Keyboard shortcut for collapse/expand thread
Wednesday, August 27, 2003, 10:30:20 AM, Greg wrote: G Hello Dave, Is there a way to expand all parts of a thread entirely? G Cnrl+keypad+ Very cool! How could I have found that in the documentation? -- Dave Kennedy Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keyboard shortcut for collapse/expand thread
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 DK Very cool! How could I have found that in the documentation? You prolly couldn't; the docs are waaay behind the code. - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v1.63 Beta/11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com ... Aristotle was famous for knowing everything. He taught that the brain exists merely to cool the blood and is not involved in the process of thinking. This is true only of certain persons. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 iQA/AwUBP0zD+tttnLhkydF1EQJU2wCgrQxZ5x/b+Sdug60Xkks9CTBHZ3sAn0sf 0pJXcjoy2jYTlXR9Jvu4Jnn8 =MYSG -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keyboard shortcut for collapse/expand thread
27-Aug-2003 16:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to expand all parts of a thread entirely? G Cnrl+keypad+ Very cool! How could I have found that in the documentation? While peeking around everybodies favorite website ;-) I found http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut.eng.txt ...uhm, should've looked there first place. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Spirit departure was very common around 1910, when many `spirits' were reported wandering around India, searching for the American Consulate. -- Woody Allen Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keyboard shortcut for collapse/expand thread
Hello Dave, G Cnrl+keypad+ Very cool! How could I have found that in the documentation? http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut_eng.html A lot of the shortcuts are NOT in the documentation, however most of the menus commands will have shortcuts indicated in the context of the menu to the right. -- Best regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keyboard shortcut for collapse/expand thread
Hello Alexander, While peeking around everybodies favorite website ;-) I found http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut.eng.txt ...uhm, should've looked there first place. I think your URL is older. http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut_eng.html Created on ... June 22, 2001 http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/shortcut.eng.txt Wednesday, 19 Janÿ2000 I did have both, but I haven't really checked which one was more current. -- Best regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v2.0 Beta/5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Keyboard shortcut for collapse/expand thread
27-Aug-2003 17:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...uhm, should've looked there first place. I think your URL is older. Hu, I got there via the FAQ page... -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) He was the sort of person who stood on mountaintops during thunderstorms in wet copper armour shouting 'All the Gods are bastards' -- Terry Pratchett Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wishlist item for scrutiny
Pixie wrote: I'd like to see the message auto-view supplemented with an option, if turned on, make the message view panel actually be automatic. ..only show if a message is clicked on, and expand the message list account list panels full height otherwise. Interesting. So you'd only have a full-height message list on first selecting a new folder. I can see a few programming logistics problems, such as re-centering the message header if it was within the lower half of the screen, but from an end-user perspective this sounds like a useful feature. Of course, you can emulate this behavior now with Shift+Ctrl+E. Meanwhile, unless you have a very narrow screen, try the full height account tree (under View, Split Mode). It was a good compromise for me. -- zParticle Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: Software patents and shareware future
Hello PIXIE, this is really a message for TBOT. Moving it there (hence the full quote). On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 08:17:56 -0400 GMT (27/08/2003, 19:17 +0700 GMT), PIXIE wrote: I was checking in on my favorite file manager http://www.ghisler.com/ and was redirected to http://swpat.ffii.org shortly after a brief message about Christian's protest effort. Do you think the panic is warranted? We in the US have had this sort of big fish - little fish situation for some time I think and it's hard to really see clearly how much or what loss has occurred because of software patenting. All I know at this point is how frustrating it is to have people write programs that rely on MS IE and other 'non monopolistic' freebie programs that are infused in windows.. sigh. It's becoming very tiresome trying to assemble a suite of core applications on my lean OS setup that don't require some more crap from the microsoft pasta machine. Pixie -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Wie man in den Wald hineingeht, so kommt man wieder heraus. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.0 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can you Park a thread?
Hello Greg, Wednesday, August 27, 2003, 11:23:04 AM, you wrote: Joseph N suggested a hotkey, not a shortcut. I was merely questioning how - I can't do it with a hotkey, only a shortcut. Maybe Joseph N made the same mistake that Daniel and myself made only in reverse. It is an easy mistake to call a hotkey a shortcut, and vice a versa. That I can explain. In some applications you have hotkeys and in other applications they are referred to as shortcuts. But, in The Bat! both terms are used, and that can sometimes lead to confusion, as we all noticed. -- Best regards, Daniel Rail Senior System Engineer ACCRA Group Inc. (www.accra.ca) ACCRA Med Software Inc. (www.filopto.com) Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: POP3 to IMAP
Have you tried using BACKUP, and only selecting messages with folders? Just an idea. -- Best regards, Brandt The BAT ver. 1.62r Win 2k Tuesday, August 26, 2003, 5:28:35 AM, you wrote: GG Hi Jamie, is there a possibility to copy the POP3 folderstructure from an account to an IMAP account? This to prevend me creating all over 40 folders new from hand. I always thought that you'd have to find a mail provider or ISP that provided IMAP accounts? GG I have both possibilities, so I can use POP3 and IMAP at the same account. GG I tried it our with Mulberry and that worked well. GG At the moment, I've everything in TB as POP3, but would like to try out IMAP with TB. GG Therefore I asked for the possibility setting over the whole POP3 config to an GG IMAP account that I created. Doing it all over by hand, creating all those GG folders with templates, etc., that I've in POP3 and wish also in IMAP would cost GG me a lot of time, which I haven't. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
