New Info re: GMX and IMAP

[Joseph N.]

   On Sunday, November 23, 2003, Joseph N. wrote in
:

> Anyone here knowledgeable about the subject care to share some info?

Found some stuff myself.  IMAP appears to be available only with their
TopMail and GMXpro services.

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Re[2]: Moving QT's

[Joseph N.]

   On Thursday, November 20, 2003, Roelof Otten wrote in
:

JN>> How, if at all, can I move my QT's from one account to another?

> Check at template edit screen 'Share with other accounts'. When you
> really want to move them, use cut and paste.
> When you want to move them from an old account to a new account
> without any QT's, you can copy the file account.qtn from the old
> account directory to the new account directory.

Roelof,

Thanks.  Moving the file worked well.

What are the other account-specific files, e.g., account.flx and
account.flb?  They are sizeable files, suggesting that they, too,
should be moved into the replacement account.  What do they contain?

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GMX and IMAP

[Joseph N.]

Is anyone connecting to gmx.net via IMAP? They discontinued the
English service since I started, and I cannot read German, so I'm
somewhat at a loss. I tried to connect, but either I have the name of
the IMAP-capable server wrong or one cannot connect via IMAP (which
seems unlikely). Anyone here knowledgeable about the subject care to
share some info?

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Re: Marck's SpamCop filters : (

[Kevin Coates]

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Hi MAU,

On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:53:36 +0100 (5:53 PM here), MAU [M] wrote in
:

M> Create an Outgoing filter that moves from Outbox to Trash messages that
M> include: 

Thank you ... I've got it under control now. ;)

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Deleting attachments not removed with deleted emails

[jon]

Hello TBUDL,

  I recognise that this bug has been fixed in Ver2.
  
  However, will upgrading to this Ver remove the undeleted
  attachments? Or, is there some utility that would do the same (I
  have now found over 1000 attachments - mostly unattached)?

  If the above cannot be done, and manual removal is required, I
  cannot reconcile files names in the 'Attach' folder to particular
  emails?

  Any help greatly apreciated.
  

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Re: Marck's SpamCop filters : (

[MAU]

Hello Kevin,

> ... but the forwards to SpamCop in my Sent Mail folder I can do
> without. Is there a way of doing this?

Create an Outgoing filter that moves from Outbox to Trash messages that
include:

String: @spam.spamcop.net
Location: Recipient
Presence: yes


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Re: Keep messages in the base for n days

[MAU]

Hello Marck,

> I have evidence of a message with a creation date in 1998 that
> doesn't yet fit the 30 day retention criteria. So TB is clearly
> using received date for purging information.

Thanks for the confirmation :)

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Re: Improving english

[Paul Berger]

Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Sunday, November 23, 2003, 8:32:19 PM, you wrote:

JS> Bonjour ,

JS> Improving english

JS> On Sunday, i try to improve english.
JS> I don't understand realy this sentence:

JS> Does anyone know of a way to stop SmartBat from inserting the time
JS> tagline when first opening up?

JS> What is the meaning of:

JS> SmartBat ?
JS> Time tagline?
JS> The meaning of the sentence?
  

Just remembered to add in the site:
http://www.free-translator.com/translator10.html
 


Cet emplacement peut vous aider. Copier juste dans le texte de
n'importe quel email et reçoivent la traduction dans le Français.
 
 



-- 


Paul

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Re: Improving english

[Paul Berger]

Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Sunday, November 23, 2003, 8:32:19 PM, you wrote:

JS> Bonjour ,

JS> Improving english

JS> On Sunday, i try to improve english.
JS> I don't understand realy this sentence:

JS> Does anyone know of a way to stop SmartBat from inserting the time
JS> tagline when first opening up?

JS> What is the meaning of:

JS> SmartBat ?
JS> Time tagline?
JS> The meaning of the sentence?
  



Cet emplacement peut vous aider. Copier juste dans le texte de
n'importe quel email et reçoivent la traduction dans le Français.
 
 



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Paul

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Re: Marck's SpamCop filters : (

[Kevin Coates]

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Hi Marck,

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:27:12 + (3:27 PM here), Marck D Pearlstone
[MDP] wrote in :

MDP> I just tested it here and it seems to work well.

I'd keep the original spam for bayesian training (via moving with your
filter) but the forwards to SpamCop in my Sent Mail folder I can do
without. Is there a way of doing this?

- --
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Dewitt, NY USA

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Re: Keep messages in the base for n days

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Hi Mau,

@23-Nov-2003, 19:39 +0100 (23-Nov 18:39 UK time) MAU [M] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

M> ,- [ Keep messages in the base for n days ]
M> | The maximum age of a message allowed in the message base. If a message
M> | is older than this, it will be automatically deleted from the message
M> | base by Purge command.
M> `-

M> I assume message "age" is calculated from received date. Can anyone
M> confirm?

Allow me :-).

I have evidence of a message with a creation date in 1998 that
doesn't yet fit the 30 day retention criteria. So TB is clearly
using received date for purging information.

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Re: X-Mailer and User-Agent

[tb]

--> Saturday, November 22, 2003, 10:48:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Saturday, November 22, 2003 @ 5:20:23 AM [-0700], Carsten Thönges wrote:

>> Both X-Mailer and User-Agent are used to identify the software
>> responsible for sending (at least The Bat! looks at both
>> headers). So why not suppress the standard X-Mailer, define a
>> User-Agent header and fill it with whatever you like?

> Wouldn't this make TB an attractive tool to spammers? I don't mind the
> suppression part, but the ability to make it look like it came from
> any other mail client would be troublesome.

Umm, spammers don't want to use The Bat!, they have plenty of tools for
sending spam, and most definitely have been modifying headers for longer
than The Bat has existed.

I use "X-Ray" -and- I am a registered user with a business license.

If I had a year to spare, I'd write my own e-mail client. However,
since I don't, I too would like to see these types of features.

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Keep messages in the base for n days

[MAU]

Hello all,

In folder properties one can set for how long to keep messages. TB's
help says:

,- [ Keep messages in the base for n days ]
| The maximum age of a message allowed in the message base. If a message
| is older than this, it will be automatically deleted from the message
| base by Purge command.
`-

I assume message "age" is calculated from received date. Can anyone
confirm?

TIA.

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Re[2]: TB and Hotmail Popper problems

[Vishal]

Hi Susanne

Friday, November 21, 2003, 5:27:11 PM, you wrote:

S> I looked at Web2pop, but it seems you can only receive mail
S> with it, not send...

That's true. For sending you usually need an account on an SMTP server. Most
people get one from their ISP. Since you're using MSN broadband, though, I'm
not sure if you've been given such an account. They probably expect you to use
hotmail for everything.

There's a way you can get such an account, though. There are numerous other
webmail providers such as www.mailandnews.com that do give you a SMTP account
you can use to send mail. Hunt around - you're sure to find one. When you do,
come back here and we'll help you set it up so that you can send mail through
web2pop. It's really easy if you haven't done it before.

Cheers,

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Re: X-Mailer and User-Agent

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Carsten,

on Sat, 22 Nov 2003 19:58:51 +0100GMT (22.11.03, 19:58 +0100GMT here),
you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

CT> %SetHeader('User-Agent', '"The Bat!"/%TheBatVersion (Business)')

I think I got it right now. *S*

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Re: Improving english

[Urban]

Sunday, November 23, 2003, Jean Site wrote:

> I don't understand realy this sentence:

> Does anyone know of a way to stop SmartBat from inserting the time
> tagline when first opening up?

> What is the meaning of:

> SmartBat ?

SmartBat is a small text editor that you find by going to
Tools-SmartBat or by pressing F6.
There's a good explanation in the help file, just search for "about
smartbat".

> Time tagline?

It's the line (in SmartBat) that looks something like this:
> ==< 2003-11-23 12:25:21 >(20031123)

> The meaning of the sentence?

If you play a little with SmartBat, open and exit it a few times, I
think you'll find it out yourself :-)

-- 
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futile ages was Chaucer, who wrote many poems and verses and also wrote
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Re: X-Mailer and User-Agent

[Carsten Thönges]

* George Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Thomas Fernandez wrote:
>> Mark Partous wrote:

[ User-Agent string ]

>> Why should it not be allowed?
[...]

> I'm having a hard time finding an RFC that covers this.  The best I've
> come up with is a draft RFC for News articles:

It's RFC 2616.

,
| 14.43 User-Agent
| [...]
|User-Agent = "User-Agent" ":" 1*( product | comment )
| 
| 3.8 Product Tokens
| [...]
|product = token ["/" product-version]
|product-version = token
| 
| 2.2 Basic Rules
| [...]
|token  = 1*
|separators = "(" | ")" | "<" | ">" | "@"
|   | "," | ";" | ":" | "\" | <">
|   | "/" | "[" | "]" | "?" | "="
|   | "{" | "}" | SP | HT
| 
|comment= "(" *( ctext | quoted-pair | comment ) ")"
|ctext  = 
| 
|quoted-pair= "\" CHAR
| 
|CHAR   = 
|CTL= 
|CR = 
|LF =  
|SP = 
|HT = 
|
|CRLF   = CR LF
|  
|LWS= [CRLF] 1*( SP | HT )
| 
|TEXT   = 
`

So, it seems like "s and spaces are not allowed for the product
string. Unfortunately The Bat! contains a space.

User-Agent: TheBat!/2.01.49 (The Bat! (v2.01.49) Business)

Carsten
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Re: Spontaneous changes in Filters

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Mark,

On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 12:06:35 +GMT (23-11-03, 13:06 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

M> Yikes: I logged onto The Bat! today (version 2.0) only
M> to discover that all of my filters in all of my
M> accounts had spontaneously altered (all as before
M> except that the destination folders all reset to the
M> originating folder). That's all 100 odd filters over
M> about 7 different accounts.

Strange, very strange. Was your folder structure still intact?

M> What is happening here?

Don't know. Only thing I can imagine that TB somehow lost track on
it's folder structure and decided to adept it's filter base
accordingly. Or that you'd have some malware that changes TB's filters
(could be a malpersoon too).

M> Are filters stored in a particular file for each account (could
M> then retrieve from backup and overwrite).

Yep, the filters are stored in the account.srx file in each account's
main directory.

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Re[2]: X-Mailer and User-Agent

[Mark Partous]

Hello George,

Sunday, November 23, 2003, 7:25:38 AM, you wrote:

GM> Assuming Mark was referring to his User-Agent header, which was:

>>> User-Agent: Ritlabs'  De Vleermuis 2.01.26  Business Edition

I was.

GM> The definition of the User-Agent field (section 6.18) seems to exclude
GM> the use of whitespace (among other things, including double-quotes)
GM> within a product name and would have the product version follow a "/".
GM> The atoms are defined in Appendix B.1.

Then this should do (more or less). Thanks!

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Re: Smart Bat (Was: Re[2]: Improving english)

[Paul Cartwright]

On Sunday, November 23, 2003, 6:49 AM, you wrote:

RO>> When opening SmartBat, it inserts a line in the current file that
RO>> contains time and date,

mM> Jean's question prompted me to investigate Smart Bat, with which I was
mM> not familiar. When I invoke the Smart Bat  there are two time
mM> stamps, one for the current moment, and another for some other date
mM> that has no relevance to the message I'm memo-ing (Jean, that's not
mM> really a word!) Are there supposed to be two time stamps?

geez, I hit F6 and found I had smartbat installed and forgot all about
it!! and a note from 5/22/2002!!:
>==< 5/22/2002 3:07:10 PM >(20020522)
What else can you do at 3:00 am?
>==< 5/23/2002 3:07:55 PM >(20020523)


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Spontaneous changes in Filters

[Mark]

Yikes: I logged onto The Bat! today (version 2.0) only
to discover that all of my filters in all of my
accounts had spontaneously altered (all as before
except that the destination folders all reset to the
originating folder). That's all 100 odd filters over
about 7 different accounts.

What is happening here?

Are filters stored in a particular file for each
account (could then retrieve from backup and
overwrite).

-- 

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Smart Bat (Was: Re[2]: Improving english)

[mm Meister]

Hello,

Sunday, November 23, 2003, 5:22:26 AM, Jean asked and Roelof answered:

JS>> What is the meaning of:

JS>> SmartBat ?
JS>> Time tagline?

 
  
RO> When opening SmartBat, it inserts a line in the current file that
RO> contains time and date,

Jean's question prompted me to investigate Smart Bat, with which I was
not familiar. When I invoke the Smart Bat  there are two time
stamps, one for the current moment, and another for some other date
that has no relevance to the message I'm memo-ing (Jean, that's not
really a word!) Are there supposed to be two time stamps?

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Re: Improving english

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Jean,

On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 10:32:19 +0100GMT (23-11-03, 10:32 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

JS> On Sunday, i try to improve english.

Well, we all need something to do. ;-) You might consider reading a
book. Try to read as much of the book as possible without using a
dictionary.

JS> I don't understand realy this sentence:

JS> Does anyone know of a way to stop SmartBat from inserting the time
JS> tagline when first opening up?

JS> What is the meaning of:

JS> SmartBat ?

SmartBat is the notebook like program that pops up when you press 
while using TB.

JS> Time tagline?

A tag is a mark or label. In file a tagline is a line that marks
something. Hence a time tagline is a line that marks the time.

JS> The meaning of the sentence?
  
When opening SmartBat, it inserts a line in the current file that
contains time and date, so that it's possible for you to trace when
you made the current remarks you wrote down.
The author of your sentence wanted to know whether it is possible to
stop SmartBat from doing that.
The rest of the thread finally concluded that it wasn't possible.

-- 
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Improving english

[Jean Site]

Bonjour ,

Improving english

On Sunday, i try to improve english.
I don't understand realy this sentence:

Does anyone know of a way to stop SmartBat from inserting the time
tagline when first opening up?

What is the meaning of:

SmartBat ?
Time tagline?
The meaning of the sentence?
  

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Cordialement

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