Move settings to a new computer
Hello TB!, I want to install TB! on a new computer with the same settings I have on my old one. Including rules and whatnot. How do I go about doing so?-- Best regards, Shai mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Move settings to a new computer
Hello TB!, I want to install TB! on a new computer with the same settings I have on my old one. Including rules and whatnot. How do I go about doing so? Old system: tools backup Tick everything, select all address books. Save the file somewhere. New System: Tools restore Ticke everything, selct all address books Find the file... OK -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 2.11.02 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mail ticker is not showing
Something is wrong with my mail ticker Display / Preferences said Display Mail Ticker(TM) Automatically I had one folder set for showing unread messages on the ticker This was a great way of attracting my attention to incoming messages especially filtered for that folder. Until I decided to change Display Mail Ticker(TM) Automatically into Display Mail Ticker(TM) Always. Since then, the Ticker disappeared like if I selected Hide. Changing back to Automatically does not help, nor does reinstalling the program. Unchecking this folder for showing messages does not help either. Selecting another folder for showing unread messages on the ticker causes The Bat! to hang. I guess the window parameters of the ticker got disturbed. What config file should I check to correct them? What should I look for in the Register? Thanks for helping Jan Halkes Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Bad subject (was: Unread folder)
Maggie, [M] wrote: You know Allie, I thought about this subject line before naming it such and since the problem lies with the *unread* folder, that's what I named it in the subject line. Paul and Thomas didn't seem to have any problem with the subject line as they gave very plausible solutions to my problem. Others on the list seem to have as much intelligence as those two, therefore, I do not accept your trout! Ok. I woke this morning to see this and had mixed feelings about it. I intended at first not to respond, but as usual, I think the best response comes after some thought before typing and I think I'm finished thinking about it. The thinking time allowed me to stop reflecting too much on how *I* felt after reading the innuendo attacking my intelligence after sending a moderatorial note, and instead, try to see things from your point of view. As usual, my intentions as moderator are good as always. I really tread lightly, but firmly when doing this sort of thing. It's really been challenging trying to make the list run in a way that's comfortable for the membership and yet not get in the way of the members too much. It's with this spirit that I hope my interjections are being read, though I didn't get that impression from your response to this last one. :) I guess my interjection on the quality of your message subject comes as a surprise, especially since I've never really done so before on this list. I guess it's bad form on my part to start moderating message subjects on the list without officially warning members that I'll be doing so. For that I apologize. Anyway, inadequacy of message subjects was the discussion point on TBBETA quite recently. I don't know if you're subscribed there. Adequate subject headers are a vital part to making it comfortable for our members to more easily see what messages are about and to better do searches. It also helps the busy members, especially the developers, to quickly see what threads they'll read first or at all, before moving on. I agreed with this and realized that we've never really moderated this important aspect of posting, though we moderate the use of cut marks. :) I decided we really aught to moderate inadequate subjects when seen. This has been well received on TBBETA. When we moderate top posting, this doesn't mean that we're assuming the poster didn't think about their posting format. In fact, top posting is often done with a lot of thought behind it. The same applies to your message subject. We *never* think that those who infringe list rules do so because they're not intelligent enough to know better. In fact, like top posting, we do know that there's a lot of deliberate, and in most instances, innocent and reasoned thought behind the infringements. The thing is that when we explain why a list rule exists, most do see the reason behind our rules even though they may not have thought about it that way before. Additionally, many active members, including myself, never really looked at message subjects since we read most, if not all, threads. We moderate top posting and excessive quoting but very few actually publicly complain about the posts that infringe rules when seen. So your comment that others don't seem to have a problem with it doesn't really indicate that your subject was seen as inadequate or not. Finally, formulating subjects does is not a black and white thing. It requires judgement and experience. Formulating a message subject for private correspondence is different from doing so for a busy list. From discussion, it would seem that those who rely on good message subjects wish for a format like: what area in TB! is the query about what about that area You could either do it in that format, for example: BayesIt: Why is my spam getting through despite training? or BayesIt: Where do I get the latest build or Virtual Folders: Problem with updating message list. Or you could do it like Spam still getting through despite training BayesIt or Where do I get the latest BayesIt build or Problems updating Virtual Folder message lists. I'm sure we can all see that those subjects are more meaningful than just: Bayesit or Virtual Folders or A Question This is all that I'm moderating. -- -=[ Allie Martin ]=- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com pgpY7YHZ8yShj.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB hanging while receiving messages from POP3 server
On Tuesday, July 6, 2004, 9:16:40 AM, Jim McMaster wrote: On Monday, July 5, 2004, 11:04:04 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote: On Monday, July 5, 2004, 12:41 PM, you wrote: JM I have been evaluating TB for two weeks, and have found a JM show-stopper that will prevent my using it. Zone alarm is known to cause major issues with TB. Period. I checked their website, and they report problems when ZoneAlarm and an antivirus program both check email attachments for viruses. I had both enabled. I turned off McAfee's checking, and had no problems for a day. Now I have disabled ZoneAlarm's checking and re-enabled McAfee's to see what happens. I will report findings in a couple of days. Final report on this. With ZoneAlarm's attachment checking turned off and McAfee's turned on, I still got lockups. I deinstalled ZA and installed a trial of McAfee Personal Firewall. TB froze once, but at least I was able to kill it successfully through the Task Manager. Looks like ZA was indeed the culprit. -- Jim McMaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpBbc8SRMFlj.pgp Description: PGP signature smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files
Hello Allister! On Monday, July 12, 2004, 12:34 AM, you wrote: MB In defense of RitLabs: the improvements that are being made in The MB Bat! are coming along so rapidly that any Help file would soon be MB obsolete. I consider that I am running an obsolete version, and I have MB the latest Full Release. AJ Too rapidly then. Documentation is part of a product. Oh, I wish!! I was desperate and frustrated to the point of real anger during my first week or two using an evaluation copy of The Bat! (v. 1.61). AJ ... Let's face it, how many newcomers would stick with it if this AJ list suddenly disappeared? For that matter, how many longer term AJ users would stick with it? I'm among the longer-term users who might stick with it. But I would probably roll back to v. 2.00.6. The folders lose my message list focus and my View settings choices every time I change folder-view, in v. 2.11.02. Been doing it about a week now--most annoying when there are a lot of mails on several lists. And I haven't learned to use the Virtual Folder function. However, I've read that this bug is now fixed in the latest betas. I got The Bat! for its safety. Retired, with plenty of time, and somewhat paranoid, I look at each message separately on the Dispatcher and decide there whether to delete or download. It's the chief thing TB! does for me which no other mail client does so well. Additionally, the easy quote function is something that's become a delight to me. And all the friendships with fellow-users on these lists. MB But I encourage you to stay with us. The Bat! is very likely the MB best e-mail program available today. AJ All the more reason to tell people how to use it so they can *see* AJ how good it is. I am willing to bet that a large proportion of AJ users would use far more features if they knew they existed and/or AJ how to use them. This is so true. I would have set up Virtual Folders if it didn't look so complicated and fraught with peril. It took me a long time to learn how to make templates and filters. Even now I'm dependent on cp from others who helped me with my original AB templates. And I follow the model I got from Marck in creating a new filter. AJ If people aren't using these wonderful features then they're a waste of AJ the programmers' time. Yes. That's why I replied to the original post here. I wanted Jimmie to have the advantages that are truly possible with The Bat!, just as it stands today. MB Everyone is here to help you! AJ Yes, and the ambulance is waiting at the bottom of the cliff. LOL What practical help could we offer the Programmers if they were to put a useable Help file on their list of priorities? I think, for one, a system of prioritization in the Help file. Perhaps a simple, Where Is It? category for wading through menus and short-cuts to a feature that TB! has in common with other e-mail clients. As a total newbie, I didn't even realize that I should poke about among drop-down menus and submenus. I went straight to the Help file, and Argh! :) It's not intuitive to look for settings under Account/Properties, for instance. Or wasn't for me. And so on. How would you, for instance, Allister, organize the Help file, if you were given the job? I'm not talking about programming code. Just what would make sense, as to Content and Index? Well--I'm putting this on tbot. Are you subscribed there? Hope you are. :) -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
color code my own msgs filter position
Battyfolks, The following filter which should mark my own msgs then continue filtering so posts will be moved to proper folders doesn't seem to be working. It is @ the top of the filter list. Could that be the problem? If so, where should it go or do I have to totally restructure my filter? BeginFilter Name: Mark My Msgs Active: 1 Source: \\SNET\Inbox Target: \\SNET\Inbox CopyFolder: none MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AltSet:1: 00Jan Rifkinson AltSet:2: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AltSet:3: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AltSet:4: 00[Jan Rifkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bogart's Daddy, Inc.)] Actions: faoContinueProcessing,faSetColor AddGroups: DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: NewTemplate: ExtCmd: ExtFile: ExtractDir: ColourGroup: my_msgs AddAddrItems: afiFrom, DelAddrItems: afiFrom, HotKey: 0 IsOfColour: default SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 0 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 0 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: KillFile: KillMethod: 0 SaveTemplate: SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter TIA -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12 RC/3/W2K_SP4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: color code my own msgs filter position
Hallo jan, On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 10:07:55 -0400GMT (12-7-2004, 16:07 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JR The following filter which should mark my own msgs then JR continue filtering so posts will be moved to proper folders JR doesn't seem to be working. I best it doesn't work as intended. It picks all messages to your current list address to, because it's looking for that in the kludges. And just as the sending address is in the kludges, so is the receiving address. JR It is @ the top of the filter list. That is exactly where it should be. JR Could that be the problem? If so, where should it go or do I JR have to totally restructure my filter? You don't have to restructure your filter, though I would have made it a bit different. I would have created an AB group called 'My addresses' (or whatever) and added all my addresses as separate entries. My filter would've checked for '.' in the kludges and at the 'advanced' tab it would check whether the sender's in the AB group 'My addresses' That's not because your filter is lacking something, but just because I like AB group filters. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Fwd: creating new folders and deleting old folders
Thomas, Thanks for getting back to me. This is being reported to me by a user on a network and they are all reporting this. I called the firm this morning and after her network tech was in, seems all of the problems are fixed. Thank you again! Best Regards, Cheryl Lynn Abacus Customer Support TF Hello Cheryl, TF On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 07:33:41 -0700 GMT (09/07/2004, 21:33 +0700 GMT), TF Cheryl Lynn wrote: CL 1. When trying to create a new folder in the folder the program just dings. TF Not here. I do that all the time. Of course, I use version 2.xx, but TF even with the 1.63 version you use, I never encountered that problem. CL 2. When deleting an empty folder I get an Access violation error CL at address 00403 CDA in module the bat.exe. I can close out of the CL program then go back in and delete the folder. TF Again, I don't remember this has ever happened to me. The address TF looks unusual to me, though. Are you sure about the blank, for TF example? CL 3. When moving an email from one folder to another the email CL dissapears. TF Definitely never over here! Because I manually move messages often. TF There seems to be something wrong over at your end. Please let us know TF which Windows you use, and have you maintained your system well? TF Purge compress folders regularly TF Defrag your harddisk regularly CL Cheryl Lynn CL Abacus Customer Support TF Is this a problem you encounter yourself or one that has been reported TF by a user? A single user or several? mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: color code my own msgs filter position
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, Roelof posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to color code my own msgs filter position : JR The following filter which should mark my own msgs then JR continue filtering so posts will be moved to proper folders JR doesn't seem to be working. RO I best it doesn't work as intended. It picks all messages to RO your current list address to, because it's looking for that in RO the kludges. And just as the sending address is in the RO kludges, so is the receiving address. /snip I just noticed something -- perhaps a buglet. When I look at my own msg in the list, I can see that it is assigned to the color group but it does not show up that way in the msg list. hmm. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12 RC/3/W2K_SP4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: color code my own msgs filter position
Hallo jan, On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 11:09:41 -0400GMT (12-7-2004, 17:09 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JR Or to put it another way, if I change the first string to 'sender' JR instead of kludges, it should work? Yep. JR Your idea of AB groups is certainly logical, It's mostly a matter of taste -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! Help files
On Monday, July 12, 2004, 12:36:47 PM, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RO Hallo Allister, RO On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:34:35 +1200GMT (12-7-2004, 7:34 +0200, where I RO live), you wrote: RO AJ Documentation is part of a product. RO Though I certainly wouldn't say that TB is the best documented program RO ever, I certainly can't blame RitLabs too much for the online help. Who can you blame if not RitLabs? This has been hashed many times on the list, and many folks truly believe that the poor help system has only served to hold back TB's market penetration. RO Let's face it. What do you expect from a help file? It has to mention RO the features in the program, but it doesn't have to take you by the RO hand like one of those [EMAIL PROTECTED]@d MS wizards that take you almost to the RO place where you'd like to be and then leave you in the dark how to RO get at your final destination. Most people expect a help file that covers all features and is written clearly. Try Help under Options | Network Administration and tell me that this really covers accounts groups properly. Where is the detailed information regarding the different editors? Why are things like Unblock User PIN in TB when it applies to a different product? RO I can't remember how many questions I've answered with straight RO quotations from the help. Most questions I didn't do that were things RO I wouldn't expect in a help file. Maybe because you have low expectations (like I do) for TB's help? When I have a problem/question with TB, I rarely invoke Help because it is so hard to find info (if indeed it exists.) Now imagine a new user who tries to invoke Help in Options | Preferences (arguably one of the most critical areas where competent Help is necessary.) Tell me that the The topic does not exist error message is not particularly egregious and unprofessional... jon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! Help files
Hallo Allister, On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:34:35 +1200GMT (12-7-2004, 7:34 +0200, where I live), you wrote: AJ Documentation is part of a product. Though I certainly wouldn't say that TB is the best documented program ever, I certainly can't blame RitLabs too much for the online help. Let's face it. What do you expect from a help file? It has to mention the features in the program, but it doesn't have to take you by the hand like one of those [EMAIL PROTECTED]@d MS wizards that take you almost to the place where you'd like to be and then leave you in the dark how to get at your final destination. I can't remember how many questions I've answered with straight quotations from the help. Most questions I didn't do that were things I wouldn't expect in a help file. AJ Let's face it, how many newcomers would stick with it if this list AJ suddenly disappeared? Don't know. I don't know how important this list is for the success of TB. For myself it didn't do anything. When I subscribed I was using TB for over a year. In real life I only know about four TB-users and none of them are on this list. Well, maybe I shouldn't count my sister among those, because she only uses TB because I said that if she wanted my on-line help I'd better know what screen she had in front of here nose, so she uses the same software as me. ;-) AJ For that matter, how many longer term users would stick AJ with it? I like the company and I would miss the puzzles like 'what keeps my filter from functioning' I can't say that the presence or absence of this list would dictate my choice of software. AJ If people aren't using these wonderful features then they're a waste of AJ the programmers' time. TB has lots of features that are a waste of programmer's time in my eyes, like smileys, html, etc. IMNSHO it's bloat, however some think that it's the most wonderful thing ever, so YMMV. Don't think that I'm against all added features, even though my particular needs rather exclude the use of IMAP, I don't think that that's a useless feature. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files [was Re: BayesIt]
Hallo Allister, On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:34:35 +1200GMT (12-7-2004, 7:34 +0200, where I live), you wrote: AJ Monday, July 12, 2004, 12:06:58 PM, Mary wrote (amongst other stuff): MB In defense of RitLabs: the improvements that are being made in The MB Bat! are coming along so rapidly that any Help file would soon be MB obsolete. I consider that I am running an obsolete version, and I have MB the latest Full Release. AJ Too rapidly then. Documentation is part of a product. Let's face it, AJ how many newcomers would stick with it if this list suddenly AJ disappeared? For that matter, how many longer term users would stick AJ with it? MB But I encourage you to stay with us. The Bat! is very likely the best MB e-mail program available today. AJ All the more reason to tell people how to use it so they can *see* how AJ good it is. I am willing to bet that a large proportion of users would AJ use far more features if they knew they existed and/or how to use them. AJ If people aren't using these wonderful features then they're a waste of AJ the programmers' time. MB Everyone is here to help you! AJ Yes, and the ambulance is waiting at the bottom of the cliff. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cannot open email messages forwarded as attachments - incompatibility between TB! and OE?
Hi Sunday, July 11, 2004, 3:41:33 PM, I wrote: [...] MeTB If I leave the message on the server and download it again in OE [...] MeTB I can open the attachment by clicking on it. I can also save the message to disc from OE and import it into TB! upon which the filename of the attached message becomes 1.msg (instead of subject.eml) but at least the attached message can be read with just a double-click MeTB If I forward a message using TB! it becomes inline text (good practice) PLUS MeTB an attachment with an .msg extension, which OE doesn't seem to cope with Until I created an entry for the .msg extension in windows's file association list (or whatever they call it). MeTB Most people I correspond with use OE so this is a pain. There's no point sending them things they can't read... MeTB What am I doing wrong? Is there a setting to tell TB! to use the .eml extension? -- Best regards, Mikemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: color code my own msgs filter position
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, Roelof posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in regards to color code my own msgs filter position : JR Or to put it another way, if I change the first string to JR 'sender' JR instead of kludges, it should work? RO Yep. snip But it also seems that there was a buglet because now, with RC4, at least on my system, I can see the color group which I couldn't see before. Thanks, Roelof. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.12 RC/4/W2K_SP4 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! Help files
Hallo jon, On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:04:18 -0400GMT (12-7-2004, 23:04 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RO AJ Documentation is part of a product. That's an awkward way of quoting. RO Though I certainly wouldn't say that TB is the best documented program RO ever, I certainly can't blame RitLabs too much for the online help. J Who can you blame if not RitLabs? You're arguing about the false part of my statement. I didn't mean to say that you shouldn't blame RitLabs for the help deficiencies, but not as much as everybody seems to do. I've always found TB's help sufficient, okay it might not grade an A, but it'll do. J This has been hashed many times on the list, and many folks truly J believe that the poor help system has only served to hold back TB's J market penetration. AMOF I couldn't care less about TB market penetration. But the most important reason that TB isn't used by the masses is the price and lack of frivolous whistles and bells. RO Let's face it. What do you expect from a help file? It has to mention RO the features in the program, but it doesn't have to take you by the RO hand like one of those [EMAIL PROTECTED]@d MS wizards that take you almost to the RO place where you'd like to be and then leave you in the dark how to RO get at your final destination. J Most people expect a help file that covers all features and is written clearly. In my experience those help files don't exist. J Try Help under Options | Network Administration and tell me that this really J covers accounts groups properly. To tell you the truth, I honestly don't know what I would have written more on that subject, if I wrote those texts. J Where is the detailed information regarding the different editors? You're right, as far as I could see, there's only info about TB's traditional editor. J Why are things like Unblock User PIN in TB when it applies to a J different product? Because that's an item in another version, not another product. Recently I've looked into two help files (apart from TB's for this discussion) The first was Word's help, telling me that I couldn't do things because I got the stand alone version and not a network variety. The other came with the software for my dect pabx, telling me about the wonderful things I could do with bluetooth gsm's and another type of pabx. So the only three help files I've looked into, since I've got my new computer have in common that they address features of other versions and you're complaining that TB's help does something uncommonly stupid in this area. I don't think that's very realistic. RO I can't remember how many questions I've answered with straight RO quotations from the help. Most questions I didn't do that were things RO I wouldn't expect in a help file. J Maybe because you have low expectations (like I do) for TB's help? Let's take an example of my last message outside this thread. That was something like what's wrong with my filter There is no help file that starts debugging your own programming efforts. J When I have a problem/question with TB, I rarely invoke Help because it is so J hard to find info (if indeed it exists.) Somewhere around June 2 I got my new pc. I installed tb from scratch, I copied my message base from my old pc, but I picked all of TB's fine tuning out of the help file. Just to see whether it was really so difficult to as I often hear inn this echo. Mind you I'm no novice user and I've known my way around computers for quite some time, but I didn't run into difficulties. J Now imagine a new user who tries to invoke Help in Options | J Preferences (arguably one of the most critical areas where J competent Help is necessary.) Tell me that the The topic does not J exist error message is not particularly egregious and J unprofessional... Yup. That could've been handled better. However, most choices you can pick are rather straightforward. And where it's a bit more guessing like What editor? It's explained in the window itself without any need to invoke the help. Mind you. I still think TB's help could be better, but I definitely refuse to go help bashing, because it's not that bad. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
List ainctive?
Greetings: I've received nothing for the past two days, which makes me think that maybe my provider has blocked this address for some reason. (They've blocked other lists' providers before.) My apologies for just checking to see if this goes through. -- Rick Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: color code my own msgs filter position
Hallo jan, On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 18:49:38 -0400GMT (13-7-2004, 0:49 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JR But it also seems that there was a buglet because now, with RC4, JR at least on my system, I can see the color group which I couldn't JR see before. That was a beta issue, I don't know nothing about those. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: hot key for mark as junk- PLEASE
On Monday, July 12, 2004 it was asked: G Hi tbudl, G or button, or something. press altF12 or menu to View-Edit.Shortcut.Keys will bring up the function to define your own HotKey. Scroll down to specials, double click on Mark as Junk then press the key sequence you want to use. I set mine to CTRL'. After you set it, make sure you check for conflicts. -- Cheers Yall \\' If love is blind, lingerie makes great braille. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: hot key for mark as junk- PLEASE
Hi Wolffe, Cool! Should have a button though, or some preset key. I used ctrl+j, which was park. I never use park, but thats just me. Who doesn't use mark as junk at least 5 times a day? -- Best regards, Gary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Monday, July 12, 2004, 7:01:43 PM, you wrote: W On Monday, July 12, 2004 it was asked: G Hi tbudl, G or button, or something. W press altF12 or menu to View-Edit.Shortcut.Keys will bring up W the function to define your own HotKey. W Scroll down to specials, double click on Mark as Junk then press W the key sequence you want to use. I set mine to CTRL'. After you W set it, make sure you check for conflicts. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files [was Re: BayesIt]
Hallo Roelof, On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:29:30 +0200GMT (12-7-2004, 17:29 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RO On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:34:35 +1200GMT (12-7-2004, 7:34 +0200, where I RO live), you wrote: It surprised me somewhat that this piece of shit didn't appear any sooner on this list. I wanted to start replying to Allister and my brother started hailing me on MSN (he's my only contact in MSN messenger) and I pressed a faulty button and alas, my my message was gone. I do hope that I won't be trouted for quoting everything while adding nothing. The weirdest thing however, is that my real reply, composed an hour later was distributed within a few minutes, while my inadvertent (is that the correct word) reply took over seven hours to get back to me. -- Groetjes, Roelof Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files [was Re: BayesIt]
Hello Roelof! On Monday, July 12, 2004, 6:39 PM, you wrote: RO It surprised me somewhat that this piece of [see h2g2 for RO translation] didn't appear any sooner on this list. I think I may have been the only one to notice. :) And I forgave you immediately, for the sake of your budgies and bunnies, and sent you a PM to tease you and ask you for a favor, something I couldn't find in the Help file. :gdr: :timemachine: -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files [was Re: BayesIt]
Monday, July 12, 2004, 7:39:52 PM, Roelof wrote: RO The weirdest thing however, is that my real reply, composed an hour RO later was distributed within a few minutes, while my inadvertent (is RO that the correct word) reply took over seven hours to get back to me. For me weird things have been happening all day as far a e-mail is concerned. I have been getting duplicates and triplicates of emails. Some as close as an hour apart and others several hours later. I just chalked it up as Bellsouth (my ISP and mail server) having a bad-hair day. But the problem may be more wide spread. Anyone else having problems. I don't think it is TB! -- Regards, Plan9 :plan9: It is all right to decorate construction but never construct decoration --Pugin Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files [was Re: BayesIt]
Hi Plan9 - On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, at 22:54:04 [GMT -0400] (which was 7:54 PM where I live) you wrote: Monday, July 12, 2004, 7:39:52 PM, Roelof wrote: snip For me weird things have been happening all day as far a e-mail is concerned. I have been getting duplicates and triplicates of emails. Some as close as an hour apart and others several hours later. I just chalked it up as Bellsouth (my ISP and mail server) having a bad-hair day. But the problem may be more wide spread. Anyone else having problems. I don't think it is TB! I'm getting duplicate messages from the TB messaging server all day myself but from no other source. 9Val had mentioned there were problems earlier in the day but have yet to subside, apparently. -- Best Regards, Kevin Using The Bat! v2.12 RC/4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgphzU2JFvYYV.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files [was Re: BayesIt]
Hello Plan9! On Monday, July 12, 2004, 9:54 PM, you wrote: P Monday, July 12, 2004, 7:39:52 PM, Roelof wrote: RO The weirdest thing however, is that my real reply, composed an hour RO later was distributed within a few minutes, while my inadvertent (is RO that the correct word) reply took over seven hours to get back to me. P For me weird things have been happening all day as far a e-mail is P concerned. I have been getting duplicates and triplicates of P emails. Some as close as an hour apart and others several hours P later. ... Anyone else having problems. I don't think it is TB! Yes, out of Georgia, USA, a PM with attached jpeg has yet to arrive. Two other PMs about it got here. Then the jpeg attachment was sent a second time. It has not showed here (in Tennessee, USA) yet, either. Hmm. I've been joking about the time machine :timemachine: but I wonder. Could our mails be lost in here: :tm: -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Too many spaces in an email subject
On Tue 13 July 2004, 9:42:57 +1000, Rich Gregory wrote: I recently added a filter that was supposed to trash emails that had a subject line where there were too many spaces in it but it is not working. ...snip... I copied and pasted it into my system, and it appears you didn't turn on the regular expressions option. -- :Robin_Anson: Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! Help files, including help with outsourced files [was Re: BayesIt]
On Monday, July 12, 2004 @ 1:34:35 PM, Allister Jenks wrote: [snips] MB In defense of RitLabs: the improvements that are being made in The MB Bat! are coming along so rapidly that any Help file would soon be MB obsolete. I consider that I am running an obsolete version, and I have MB the latest Full Release. Allister Too rapidly then. Documentation is part of a product. Let's face it, Allister how many newcomers would stick with it if this list suddenly Allister disappeared? For that matter, how many longer term users would stick Allister with it? There's no doubt that I would not have stuck with the program without this list. The help file is pretty useless, I've found - it will say things like do THIS with THAT, but searching on either THIS or THAT either won't show them in the help (apart from the screen you were just in), or won't tell you how to access them from the program. (Sorry for the complete lack of detail there, but it's been a while since I was chasing something to change or do, as my only real current changes are with filters, as you well know :-) MB But I encourage you to stay with us. The Bat! is very likely the best MB e-mail program available today. Allister All the more reason to tell people how to use it so they can *see* how Allister good it is. I am willing to bet that a large proportion of users would Allister use far more features if they knew they existed and/or how to use them. No doubt. Allister If people aren't using these wonderful features then they're a waste of Allister the programmers' time. Agreed. MB Everyone is here to help you! Allister Yes, and the ambulance is waiting at the bottom of the cliff. Good summary, really. To maintain growth (and thus remain viable), market share has to be a consideration, and making the program difficult to access actively works against that. Not that Agent has moved on in any meaningful way in the last few years, but one thing it did have when it started out, and one of the reasons that a lot of people used it, was that it had a well-written helpfile that actually helped. TheBat! is difficult to recommend to people who would clearly be better off using it than Outlook (ie everyone) or some other email clients because of the expected amount of followup work required because it does not set things out in a usable manner or explain things clearly in the helpfile. Don't get me wrong, I like the program a lot, but there are areas where significant improvements could (and should) be made. -- cheers, Mic (reply address works) Don't give up kissing Princes; sooner or later one will turn into a frog. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Too many spaces in an email subject
On Tue 13 July 2004, 14:14:26 +1000, Rich Gregory wrote:
I recently added a filter that was supposed to trash emails that had a
subject line where there were too many spaces in it but it is not working.
RA I copied and pasted it into my system, and it appears you didn't turn on
RA the regular expressions option.
OK turned it on... What does it mean?
The filter condition you put in (\s{5,60}) is a regular expression
construct. Your filter would have been looking for the literal 8
characters rather than a string of between 5 and 60 spaces in the
subject.
--
:Robin_Anson:
Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
hot key for mark as junk- PLEASE
Hi tbudl, or button, or something. -- Best regards, Gary mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: hot key for mark as junk- PLEASE
Howdy Gary, Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 3:23:54 AM, Gary wrotened: Gary Should have a button though, or some preset key. I used Gary ctrl+j, which was park. I never use park, but thats just me. Gary Who doesn't use mark as junk at least 5 times a day? Er.. me -- Have Fun, | | |en is |\ohop [EMAIL PROTECTED] :Rohop: crashing The Bat! v2.12 RC/4 falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 If you want breakfast in bed, sleep in the kitchen. Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
