Re: If Exists Macro?

[Gaijin]

Hello Alexander,

Wed, 11 Aug 2004 18:52:57 +0200 (12:52 PM EDT here) Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

> is there a macro (or some other solution) to test the existence of a
> file on disk? Something like "if exists 'c:\file\foo.txt" add it to
> the message, if its not there, don't do anything.

You can use the %GMP_FileExist function from the Gaijin Macro Plugin:

%_FILENAME="C:\bootlog.txt"%-
%IF:|%GMP_FileExist("%_FILENAME")|=|1|:|%-
%ATTACHFILE="%_FILENAME"|:||%-

You can download the newes version from: http://www.gaijin.at/tbpgmp.shtml.

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Re: replace option in "search" doesn't works...

[Robin Anson]

On Thu 12 August 2004, 9:29:30 +1000, Al Vicious wrote:
> After installing TheBat!, and suprising with its speed in any
> operation, I began to check its all options, and I found that the
> "replace" option, in the "search" menu, composing or replying a
> message, doesn't works...  anyone had experiencied this issue before
> me...

Not confirmed here - it works for me.

Which editor are you using (MicroEd, Windows or HTML)?

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replace option in "search" doesn't works...

[Al Vicious]

Hi!

After installing TheBat!, and suprising with its speed in any operation, I began 
to check its all options, and I found that the "replace" option, in the "search" menu, 
composing or replying a message, doesn't works...  anyone had experiencied this issue 
before me...



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Re: If Exists Macro?

[Dan Grunberg]

Wed, 11 Aug 2004 18:52:57 +0200 (12:52 PM EDT here) Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

> is there a macro (or some other solution) to test the existence of a
> file on disk? Something like "if exists 'c:\file\foo.txt" add it to
> the message, if its not there, don't do anything.

I haven't tested this, but I think it will do what you want to do.

1. Add the MyMacros plug in to TheBat! After you've done that, you can
   use %Run(command line) to run a command line from a Quick Template.

2. Create a directory called (for example) c:\forthis .

3. Create an empty text file in the forthis directory. Call the file
   empty.txt . Give empty.txt the read-only attribute.

4. Create a batch file, called thefile.bat in the forthis directory.

  Rem begin thefile.bat

  cd c:\forthis

  copy c:\forthis\empty.txt c:\forthis\adhoc.txt

  if exist \yourfile.txt copy \yourfile.txt c:\forthis\adhoc.txt

  Rem end thefile.bat

5. Write a Quick Template called GetFile

  %Rem="Start GetFile"%-
  %-
  %Run(c:\forthis\thefile.bat)%-
  %Include(c:\forthis\adhoc.txt)%-
  %-
  %Rem="End GetFile"%-

6. Use %Qinclude(GetFile) in a template

   or

   Type GetFile[Ctrl]+[Space] in a message

   If yourfile exists, the contents of adhoc.txt (which is identical
   to the contents of yourfile) will be included in the message.

   If yourfile doesn't exist, the contents of adhoc.txt (which is identical
   to the non-contents of empty.txt) will be included in the message.



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Re: Seti@home

[Robin Anson]

On Wed 11 August 2004, 13:55:00 +1000, Chris wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] may be causing your problem. Try turning it off and see if
> your folders display at the right speed. I had this problem when I ran
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] all the time.

I only run it as a screensaver, so it should make no difference while I
am working on the system.

>> Are you running the new version?
> Yes I am. The SETI Team is having some problems with the new servers
> (not being able to get work units, not being able to return work
> units, not getting credit for work units, loosing work units, etc.),
> so my experience has been less than great. I would wait to upgrade
> until they work some of the bugs out.

Okay, sounds like waiting for a while is a good idea. Thanks

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Re[2]: Folder settings

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Allie,

Wednesday, August 11, 2004, 7:55:42 AM, you wrote:

AM> Jack S. Larosa, [JSL] wrote:

>> I'm ashamed to admit that I don't know the difference and don't know
>> how to find out.

AM> Ashamed??!! That isn't a word in the vocabulary used on this list. :)

AM> Hit Shift-CTRL-P to bring up the account properties. Select the
AM> 'Transport' options and under the section 'Receive Mail' what is the
AM> Protocol type stated there?

As my dear departed grandmother used to say "If it was a snake, it
would've bit you!". I didn't see it when I looked the first time. It's
POP3.

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Re: Error restoring attachments

[Tobias]

Alexander S. Kunz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > I did a full backup in TB!, electing *not* to store external attachments
> > in message bodies.
> 
> Isn't that what you should've done in order to preserve the attachments?
> They're not stored in the message body (and thus, the messagebase).
> Apparently you've formatted your attachments away... 

Are you sure that's what necessary to back up attachments? If so, why does TB! 
allow you to check the "attachment files" box for backup, and elect not to 
store them in message bodies, as I've done? If it was necessary to store 
attachments in message bodies to back them up, TB! would do so automatically. 

Furthermore, I'm positive the attachments have been backed up, because my .tbk 
file is 100MB and my successfully restored mail folder is only 30MB. The 
attachments are in the tbk file, they're just not being extracted and restored 
properly.

Just for the record, is anyone with TB! 2.12.00 able to successfully back up 
and restore attachments separate to message bodies? Would someone mind running 
a small test and checking that for me? I'm pretty sure this has always worked 
for me in the past.

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Re: Macro Help needed

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Jurgen,

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 17:38:25 +0200GMT (11-8-2004, 17:38 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

JH> Now  the  question is, how can I change that template above, to only use the QT,
JH> if there are several people addressed? And another QT if not?

Test whether there are multiple occurrences of the @ character, can be
done with a simple regexp and an if macro.

%SetPattRegexp="(.*?)(@.*@)(.*)"%RegExpBlindMatch="%To"%-
%If:'%SubPatt="1"'='':'%QInclude("QT for single to")':'%QInclude("QT for multiple 
to")'%-

Insert the names for the appropriate QT's.

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Re: If Exists Macro?

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Alexander,

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 18:52:57 +0200GMT (11-8-2004, 18:52 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

ASK> is there a macro (or some other solution) to test the existence of a file
ASK> on disk? Something like "if exists 'c:\file\foo.txt" add it to the message,
ASK> if its not there, don't do anything.

Not that that I'm aware of.

But there's a work around
%AttachFile='c:\file\foo.txt'
Will attach the file, when the file doesn't exist, it gives the text:
Cannot find file c:\file\foo.txt

So the only thing we need to do is redirect that output text.
We can do that by using a variable
I tested this with the macro below:

%_NullText="%AttachFile='c:\file\foo.txt'"%-

When the file is found, it'll be attached
When the file isn't found the text 'Cannot find file c:\file\foo.txt'
is assigned to %_NullText and as long as you don't use %_NullText
anywhere else, you won't find its value in your message.

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Re: Filter on Reply-To:?

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello David Earl,

11-Aug-2004 20:30, you wrote:

> I've set up a rule that when text [EMAIL PROTECTED] is in Recipient,
> the post should be moved to folder ListServ. I need this rule to test the
> Reply-To: field, rather than the To: field. I'm new. I'm blind (well, I'm
> not seeing what I want ;). How do I do that?

Simply set "Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]" as your filter string and
"Kludges" as the location (presence "Yes" is obvious:-)

> Or perhaps a better question, how do I add header fields to the filtering list?

You can test for all headers with the location "Kludges". Just add the name
of the header (X-Mailinglist, or whatever) to the filter string.

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Re: What are Chat Folders?

[Leif Gregory]

Hello David,

Wednesday, August 11, 2004, 12:37:37 PM, you wrote:
DE> TheBat documentation seems a little thin on the subject of
DE> folders. Could someone explain the usage(s) of a "Chat Folder"?

Basically, when you specify a message as belonging to a chat, it puts
that "thread" of correspondence in the chat folder.

So, for instance, if you specified this thread on the TB list as a
chat (don't do this as you'll tick some people off), then everyone
using TB would have this thread in the chat folder.

It's use is to keep all the messages together in a running thread so
you can track the conversation in its entirety.

You need TB users to be able to use this.

And again, don't do this with a list message, as you'll force that
thread into the chat folder with notifications to everyone on the TB
lists who didn't turn it off explicitly (or maybe by default it is, I
don't recall).


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Filter on Reply-To:?

[David Earl]

Hey all,

I've set up a rule that when text [EMAIL PROTECTED] is in Recipient, the post should 
be moved to folder ListServ. I need this rule to test the Reply-To: field, rather than 
the To: field. I'm new. I'm blind (well, I'm not seeing what I want ;). How do I do 
that?

Or perhaps a better question, how do I add header fields to the filtering list?

TIA,
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What are Chat Folders?

[David Earl]

Hey All,

TheBat documentation seems a little thin on the subject of folders. Could someone 
explain the usage(s) of a "Chat Folder"?

TIA,
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Re[2]: Problem of privacy in TB ?

[Martin Webster]

Hello Plan9,

On 11 August 2004, 15:22 -0400 (20:22 local time) Plan9 [P] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Martin>> Is this a problem? You can see my machines FQDN is the header but I
Martin>> wouldn't have thought that was a security breach.

P> I think what he is referring to is the name of the computer. See the
P> headers of this reply from me and notice that it is from "brick" the
P> name of my computer and then my IP.

That's what I mean... my machine is called lagothrix and that's appended
to the domain name. That's how mail finds it's way to me. What's the
problem?

P> What if I had named my computer "big" and "" happened to be a
P> little or a lot risque not expecting my computer name to be inserted
P> into a mail message. :-D

:-)


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Re: Problem of privacy in TB ?

[Plan9]

Wednesday, August 11, 2004, 3:22:29 PM, Plan9 wrote:

Plan9> Wednesday, August 11, 2004, 3:12:59 PM, Martin wrote:

Martin>> Is this a problem? You can see my machines FQDN is the header but I
Martin>> wouldn't have thought that was a security breach.

Plan9> I think what he is referring to is the name of the computer. See the
Plan9> headers of this reply from me and notice that it is from "brick" the
Plan9> name of my computer and then my IP. What if I had named my computer
Plan9> "big" and "" happened to be a little or a lot risque not
Plan9> expecting my computer name to be inserted into a mail message. :-D

Sorry about that.  Martin's message was in TBOT.  I replied and it
went to TBUDL.  :-(

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Re: Problem of privacy in TB ?

[Plan9]

Wednesday, August 11, 2004, 3:12:59 PM, Martin wrote:

Martin> Is this a problem? You can see my machines FQDN is the header but I
Martin> wouldn't have thought that was a security breach.

I think what he is referring to is the name of the computer. See the
headers of this reply from me and notice that it is from "brick" the
name of my computer and then my IP. What if I had named my computer
"big" and "" happened to be a little or a lot risque not
expecting my computer name to be inserted into a mail message. :-D

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Re[2]: Problem of privacy in TB ?

[Martin Webster]

Hello Leif,

On 11 August 2004, 09:29 -0600 (16:29 local time) Leif Gregory [LG] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

W>> I 've done a test with a self sent email, and I can see this header
W>> ! My friend use TB to, but his mail I receive haven't his computer
W>> name in header !

W>> What 's wrong with my TB ?

LG> It looks like you use your own SMTP server. I'd go through all the
LG> config info for your SMTP software, because that's where the problem
LG> is, not TB.

Is this a problem? You can see my machines FQDN is the header but I
wouldn't have thought that was a security breach.

I've copied this to TBOT since it's not a TB! matter.


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Re[2]: Command Line Parameters

[Jeff Gaines]

Hello Alexander,

On Wednesday, August 11, 2004, 4:05:45 PM, you wrote:

> Hello Jeff Gaines,

> 11-Aug-2004 14:54, you wrote:

>>   I am new to The Bat! and I am having trouble finding the Command
>>   Line Parameters in the help file - clicking on 'Command line
>>   parameter' brings up an empty dialog saying 'Click a topic, then
>>   click Display' - a bit difficult!

> Thats odd. It shows fine here with the same version (2.12.00)


>>   Is this possible in The Bat! please?

> Thats very easy with the /MAIL option. I'll send you the portion of the
> help text via PM.

   Many thanks Alexander, I received the PM and it works fine, even to
   the extent of putting a proper greeting in the email :-))

   Thanks   also   for   your   comment  about  the  help  file  -  It
   encouraged me to find the solution - nothing to do with TB.

   I  run  dual monitors, if the 'Topics Found' dialog comes up on the
   secondary  monitor it's  blank,  if  it comes up on the primary screen it's
   fine  -  moving  it  doesn't help, it must appear first time on the
   primary screen or it doesn't work.

   I  had  a similar problem with Delphi and always put it down to the
   way  the help file was written but it looks like a more fundamental
   Windows related problem, I'll have to do some investigation.

   Thanks again :-))


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Re[2]: IMAP Mail Not Loading.

[Christopher Brown]

Hi 9Val,

> Which synchronization method do you use? Are
> those messages huge? What says connection centre
> about your IMAP session?

With earlier versions (including 2.12 and previous), I could reliably cause this 
problem by activating a filter, either manually or on new-mail arrival. The most 
recent beta does not cause it, although automatic filtering does not occur 
consistently. 

I reported it here:

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0003103

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Re: IMAP Mail Not Loading.

[Allie Martin]

9val, [9] wrote:

> Which synchronization method do you use?

Here I use usually only header syncs.

Upon selecting the message, the message body is empty. Upon viewing
the source, the view source window is empty.

> Are those messages huge?

Usually not. They vary in types. Some are HTML, while others aren't.
Usually when it happens, it's the Inbox and all the messages in the
Inbox are affected. I filter all messages from the Inbox so only a few
messages that have nowhere to go and aren't filtered at the server
level end up in the Inbox.

Even then I have a filter that dumps these messages to a Sundries
folder so that the Inbox remains empty. The first sign of the problem
occurring is that all the messages in the Inbox fail to be filtered.

> What says connection centre about your IMAP session?

Nothing special usually. Just that it's connected. No unfinished
tasks.

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Re: Problem of privacy in TB ?

[Daniel Rail]

Hello,

Wednesday, August 11, 2004, 12:10:36 PM, you wrote:

> I've got a big problem with mails sent with TB : When I send an
> email to a person with my TB, this person can see my computer name
> in the headers of the mail. The problematic field is "Received:". I
> can accept that he can see my IP address to avoid piracy, but why my
> computer name?

The Received field is not inserted by TB, but by a receiving server.
In your case, your ISP's SMTP server. It's possible that your
computer's name is part of the communication packet. I don't know if a
firewall makes a difference(probably it depends on the options that
are activated), but if you don't have one installed, give it a try.
Also, is it possible that you have NetBIOS enabled for the internet
TCP/IP connection?

> I 've done a test with a self sent email, and I can see this header
> ! My friend use TB to, but his mail I receive haven't his computer
> name in header !

Maybe he has something setup that hides his computer's name when
communicating on the internet.

> What 's wrong with my TB ?

Nothing.

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Re: Problem of privacy in TB ?

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello WilWilWil,

11-Aug-2004 19:04, you wrote:

> The only one difference between them and me is that I 'm connected to
> Internet trough an other PC which share his connection...

There you have it. :-) I've seen similar on messages I've sent @ work vs.
messages I've sent from my home PC. The mails sent @ work contain a lot
more information about the computer in the LAN. At home I have no network.

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Re: IMAP Mail Not Loading.

[Chris Weaven]

Hi 9Val,

On Wednesday, August 11, 2004 10:54 your local time, which was 08:54 my
local time, 9Val 9Val [9] wrote;

9> New  filters  are disabled by default you can enable them for accounts
9> you want

Excellent, I'll install later when I get back.
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Re[2]: Problem of privacy in TB ?

[WilWilWil]

==Original message text===
From: drifthat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: WilWilWil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2004, 6:27:33 PM
Subject: Problem of privacy in TB ?
d> Hello WilWilWil,

d> Wednesday, August 11, 2004, 11:10:36 PM, you wrote:

W>> I've got a big problem with mails sent with TB : When I send an email to a
W>> person with my TB, this person can see my computer name in the headers of the mail.
W>> The problematic field is "Received:". I can accept that he can see my IP address 
to avoid
W>> piracy, but why my computer name? Imagine, if I'had named my computer with a joke
W>> name,  I 'll have to change it because I send professional emails...
d> 
W>> What 's wrong with my TB ?

d> It's not the problem of TB. You can try other email client such as
d> becky/foxmail. You also can see the computer name in the headers



===End of original message text===
But my friends don't have  this problem and we use the same provider for email. I've
nothing to param about SMTP...

The only one difference between them and me is that I 'm connected to
Internet trough an other PC which share his connection...

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Re: IMAP Mail Not Loading.

[Chris Weaven]

Hi 9Val,

On Wednesday, August 11, 2004 10:55 your local time, which was 08:55 my
local time, 9Val 9Val [9] wrote;

9> Which synchronization method do you use?

Full sync
Periodic Checking every 2 mins
When online refresh folders every 1 min

9> Are those messages huge?

The particular message in question was only 421K in size. Sorry, but I
didn't take note of previous messages.

9> What says connection centre about your IMAP session?

Nothing unusual. Just the normal queuing etc.
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Re[2]: Feature "complete automatically entry fields : adresses from.......

[WilWilWil]

==Original message text===
From: Alexander S. Kunz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Thomas Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2004, 5:59:45 PM
Subject: Feature "complete automatically entry fields : adresses from...
ASK> Hello Thomas Fernandez,

ASK> 11-Aug-2004 17:44, you wrote:

W>>> I want to keep this setting but I want to delete some unused data from this
W>>> history that is now to loud...

>> I think you just need to highlight the entry in the drop-down list
>> (the little arrow on the right) and delete it.

ASK> You need to highlight it with the LMB pressed and keep it pressed while
ASK> deleting items, or else you'll immediately pick the entry you highlighted
ASK> with the mouse. :-)


===End of original message text===
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Re: Kaspersky AV Plug-in.

[Chris Weaven]

Hi 9Val,

On Wednesday, August 11, 2004 10:51 your local time, which was 08:51 my
local time, 9Val 9Val [9] wrote;

9> We  had problems with Kaspersky AntiVirus and have no any response and
9> contactsfromKaspersky'sside,   so  it  was  disabled. Only
9> receipt  to  make  Kaspersky  working  is to switch to one of previous
9> versions of TB! :(

Thanks for getting back to me. This is a great shame and has left me
deciding what to do now!?

Is there maybe something you could send me off list to enable KAV again,
as like I said, it previously worked extremely well with TB! This was
one of the reasons I recently obtained KAV, as I liked the plug-in with
TB! and the way it worked.

FYI - I will be taking this to the KAV forums to see if I can anything
from the KAV team there!
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If Exists Macro?

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello everyone,

is there a macro (or some other solution) to test the existence of a file
on disk? Something like "if exists 'c:\file\foo.txt" add it to the message,
if its not there, don't do anything.

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Re: Again on mailto servers :-)

[dAniel hAhler]

Hello TBUDL,

on Tue, 10. Aug 2004 at 22:18:05 +0300 Robert Golovniov wrote:

dh>> Hope this works..
> It  does not... :-( Perhaps because it was not the only line there. Here
> is an example:

> X-GPGrelay-Status: This mail was signed (Inlined PGP-Message).
> ,-GnuPG output follows (current time: Mon, Aug 09 2004 - 08:11:53)--
[...]
> | Signature made 08/08/04 23:01:27 E. Europe Daylight Time using DSA key 
> ID 5824443B
> | no valid OpenPGP data found.
> | Total number processed: 0
> | Can't check signature: public key not found
> |
>
> `---

I don't understand if all the above gets put into your header.

Please try to understand what the regular expression does and try to
adjust it.

If the above gets really into the mail header then you'd have to use
this:

%SETPATTREGEXP="| Signature made[^\n]+key ID ([0-9A-F]{8})\n"%-
%SUBJECT='GET 0x%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%HEADER"%SUBPATT="1"'%-

please note: only the regular expression got adjusted.


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Re: Problem of privacy in TB ?

[drifthat]

Hello WilWilWil,

Wednesday, August 11, 2004, 11:10:36 PM, you wrote:

W> I've got a big problem with mails sent with TB : When I send an email to a
W> person with my TB, this person can see my computer name in the headers of the mail.
W> The problematic field is "Received:". I can accept that he can see my IP address to 
avoid
W> piracy, but why my computer name? Imagine, if I'had named my computer with a joke
W> name,  I 'll have to change it because I send professional emails...

W> What 's wrong with my TB ?

It's not the problem of TB. You can try other email client such as
becky/foxmail. You also can see the computer name in the headers


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vcard problem

[WilWilWil]

Hi,

It seems that the photo field of vcard created with TB can only be viewed by TB.

I can read vcard created by TB on my Palm Desktop Soft (on PC, not on the
handled), but not the photo field  !

I can read vcard created by TB on OE6 & Outlook Pro but not the photo field  !

What's this problem ? Compatibility of TB is not universal ?
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Re: japanese TEXT messages

[drifthat]

Hello lister,

Wednesday, August 11, 2004, 10:54:37 AM, you wrote:

lpc> I get:
lpc>   Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP

lpc> in the headers fine, but changing the viewer from text to the HTML viewer
lpc> has no effect.

lpc> I thought i was getting somewhere chaning the default display font for
lpc> editing messages, to make sure it was a font with japanese characters
lpc> associated. however, now when typing (using the plain text/ windows)
lpc> editor, japanese comes out but the characters are rotated 90 degrees!
lpc> Further when a message is sent it comes out in gibberish at the other end...

Download this, http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/iconv.zip , and set
all font to MS gothic or MS Mincho (not the @-blah font)perhaps solve the problem.

lpc> is anyone using TB! for japanese or is becky the only choice?
the DBCS and Unicode support of TB is very poor currently. I also use becky to
handle DBCS message. It's pretty good to read/write DBCS/Unicode mail. And
its plugin system is also fascinating. :-)


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Re: Feature "complete automatically entry fields : adresses from.......

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Thomas Fernandez,

11-Aug-2004 17:44, you wrote:

W>> I want to keep this setting but I want to delete some unused data from this
W>> history that is now to loud...

> I think you just need to highlight the entry in the drop-down list
> (the little arrow on the right) and delete it.

You need to highlight it with the LMB pressed and keep it pressed while
deleting items, or else you'll immediately pick the entry you highlighted
with the mouse. :-)

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Re: Feature "complete automatically entry fields : adresses from.......

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello WilWilWil,

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 17:02:57 +0200 GMT (11/08/2004, 22:02 +0700 GMT),
WilWilWil wrote:

W> I set that TB look at history to automatically complete the "to" field when I
W> create a new mail.

W> I want to keep this setting but I want to delete some unused data from this
W> history that is now to loud...

I think you just need to highlight the entry in the drop-down list
(the little arrow on the right) and delete it.

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Re: japanese TEXT messages

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello lister,

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 19:54:37 -0700 (PDT) GMT (11/08/2004, 09:54 +0700 GMT),
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

lpc> quick question regarding japanese. I am able to read HTML and rich text
lpc> messages sent in japanese, but any plain text messages just display as
lpc> gibberish. any suggestions?

You posted this here earlier and got no reply. I guess the others using
Japanese have left the list; there were problems reported earlier.

All I can say is that I have no problem displaying Chinese (Big5). I
don't know why it makes a difference, but I know I am of no help.
Sorry.

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mag ich auch nicht, wenn ich muss. Wenn ich aber darf, wenn ich will,
dann mag ich auch, wenn ich soll und dann kann ich auch, wenn ich
muss. Denn schliesslich: Die, die koennen sollen, muessen wollen
duerfen."

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Macro Help needed

[Jurgen Haug]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hallo Fledermäuse,

I have this template for replies:


***
QINCLUDE="Greeting"

CURSOR
***

the  QuickTemplate  is  the  complicated  stuff about greeting several people by
name, where Roelof was helping me out so nicely.

Now  the  question is, how can I change that template above, to only use the QT,
if there are several people addressed? And another QT if not?

- --
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 Jürgen
:eu-flag3: :de-bw:

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Re: Seti@home (was: Re: Folders don't display contents immediately)

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Chris,

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 23:55:00 -0400 GMT (11/08/2004, 10:55 +0700 GMT),
Chris wrote:

C> It probably doesn't add much value; however, [EMAIL PROTECTED] may be causing
C> your problem. Try turning it off and see if your folders display at
C> the right speed. I had this problem when I ran [EMAIL PROTECTED] all the time.

I turned it off and the larger folders still open with the same delay.

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with atoms. But when they broke open atoms, they found them stuffed
with explosions."

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Re: Problem of privacy in TB ?

[Leif Gregory]

Hello WilWilWil,

Wednesday, August 11, 2004, 9:10:36 AM, you wrote:
W> I 've done a test with a self sent email, and I can see this header
W> ! My friend use TB to, but his mail I receive haven't his computer
W> name in header !

W> What 's wrong with my TB ?


It looks like you use your own SMTP server. I'd go through all the
config info for your SMTP software, because that's where the problem
is, not TB.


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Problem of privacy in TB ?

[WilWilWil]

Hi,

I've got a big problem with mails sent with TB : When I send an email to a
person with my TB, this person can see my computer name in the headers of the mail.
The problematic field is "Received:". I can accept that he can see my IP address to 
avoid
piracy, but why my computer name? Imagine, if I'had named my computer with a joke
name,  I 'll have to change it because I send professional emails...

I 've done a test with a self sent email, and I can see this header !
My friend use TB to, but his mail I receive haven't his computer name in header
!

What 's wrong with my TB ?

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Re: Error restoring attachments

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Tobias,

11-Aug-2004 14:53, you wrote:

> I did a full backup in TB!, electing *not* to store external attachments
> in message bodies.

Isn't that what you should've done in order to preserve the attachments?
They're not stored in the message body (and thus, the messagebase).
Apparently you've formatted your attachments away... :-{

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Re: Command Line Parameters

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Jeff Gaines,

11-Aug-2004 14:54, you wrote:

>   I am new to The Bat! and I am having trouble finding the Command
>   Line Parameters in the help file - clicking on 'Command line
>   parameter' brings up an empty dialog saying 'Click a topic, then
>   click Display' - a bit difficult!

Thats odd. It shows fine here with the same version (2.12.00)


>   Is this possible in The Bat! please?

Thats very easy with the /MAIL option. I'll send you the portion of the
help text via PM.

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Feature "complete automatically entry fields : adresses from.......

[WilWilWil]

Hi,

I set that TB look at history to automatically complete the "to" field when I
create a new mail.

I want to keep this setting but I want to delete some unused data from this
history that is now to loud...

How to ?

Thanks

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Re: How to create a auto-reply filter?

[Darrin Rich]

On 8/11/2004 6:06 AM my time, Dan wrote:
DG> Instead (or in addition), on the ADVANCED tab:

DG>  pull down to [x] ADDRESS(ES) MUST BE LISTED IN ADDRESS BOOK

DG>   choose the appropriate items

DG>   [x] THE ADDRESS ENTRY MUST BELONG TO GROUPS

DG>press the button on your right and [x] the group or groups


Hi Dan,
  Perfect! Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for the help :)

 
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Re: How to create a auto-reply filter?

[Dan Grunberg]

Tue, 10 Aug 2004 19:55:03 -0700 (10:55 PM EDT here) Darrin Rich wrote:

> On 8/10/2004 11:53 AM my time, Dan wrote:
DG>>  STRINGS [group.com], [SENDER], [YES] (for example)

> What if the specific address group I have is listed as "work
> friends" in strings, do I just have to type "work friends" and it
> will know that specific address group?

In that case you won't have to enter a STRING on the RULE tab (unless
you want to use a filter string to further filter among members of
your "work friends" group).

Instead (or in addition), on the ADVANCED tab:

 pull down to [x] ADDRESS(ES) MUST BE LISTED IN ADDRESS BOOK

  choose the appropriate items

  [x] THE ADDRESS ENTRY MUST BELONG TO GROUPS

   press the button on your right and [x] the group or groups


(I found all of the above information in:

   TheBat! ==> Help ==> Index

[Filters]

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Re: Folder settings

[Allie Martin]

Jack S. Larosa, [JSL] wrote:

> I'm ashamed to admit that I don't know the difference and don't know
> how to find out.

Ashamed??!! That isn't a word in the vocabulary used on this list. :)

Hit Shift-CTRL-P to bring up the account properties. Select the
'Transport' options and under the section 'Receive Mail' what is the
Protocol type stated there?

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Command Line Parameters

[Jeff Gaines]

Hello TBUDL,

  I am new to The Bat! and I am having trouble finding the Command
  Line Parameters in the help file - clicking on 'Command line
  parameter' brings up an empty dialog saying 'Click a topic, then
  click Display' - a bit difficult!

  I want to be able to start The Bat! with the email editor open with
  an address entered - with Agent I passed the following parameters:

  "-home:MailIniFile -url:" + strEmail

  strEmail being a variable holding the email address.

  Is this possible in The Bat! please?

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Error restoring attachments

[Tobias]

Has anyone else experienced problems restoring attachments with The Bat! 2.12? 
I reinstalled Windows today (with a slipstreamed SP2), and before formatting I 
did a full backup in TB!, electing *not* to store external attachments in 
message bodies. 

Now that I've installed Windows and have come to restore my TB! archive, I get 
this error when trying to restore attachments: "Error extracting 
attachment 'filename' into 'path'", where filename is one of the attachments 
and path is in my MAIL directory. I've tried this with older backups and get 
the same error.

Has anyone had similar experiences, or know a way to fix this?

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Re: Macros and regex and... I need help with a template

[M i c C u l l e n]

At 01:58 [GMT+0200]  on Wednesday August 11  (Actual time - 07:58am on
Wednesday in Perth, Western Australia) you wrote:

[snips]

Roelof> %Wrapped='%QInclude("YourTime")'

Roelof> The QInclude macro calls the QT, the Wrapped macro wraps the output of
Roelof> the QT according to your wrapping settings.

Brilliant. And it's even setup so I can learn from it. Thanks muchly, that's
great.

MIC>> With the 'evening' bit changing depending on the time of day? (ie 0-11 =
MIC>> "morning", 12-16 = "afternoon", 17-20 = "evening", 21-23 = "night")

MIC>> Or is that just being stupid(er)?

Roelof> That can be done, it's merely a slight adaption of the QT,

Should I be able to work it out?

Roelof>  but I think it's rather silly.

As with most ideas I like, others think they're a bit strange :-)

Thanks again.

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Re[2]: Folder settings

[Jack S. LaRosa]

Hello Allie,

Tuesday, August 10, 2004, 7:14:14 PM, you wrote:

AM> Jack S. Larosa, [JSL] wrote:

>> I have just noticed that my The Bat! folder is no longer expunging old
>> messages. I have the parameters set as follows:

>> Keep messages in base for 2 days
>> On exit remove old messages (box checked) and compress the folder (box
>> checked).

AM> Are you using POP or IMAP?


I'm ashamed to admit that I don't know the difference and don't know
how to find out.

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Re[2]: Viewing headers...

[Maksym Kozub]

TN> BTW, I am using the plain text viewer.

TN> Hmmmh, it seems it happens only to messages encoded in UTF-8.

TN> When I use "View Headers" on HTML-emails; the headers appear in the
TN> text view and I got the usual two tabs Text and HTML.

Confirmed here. I just had some UTF-8 message with Arabic quotations on the
translation mailing list, and switched headers on right now. Two tabs at
the bottom, "Text" and "Headers".

M.

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Re: Viewing headers...

[Thorvald Neumann]

Hæ!

Wednesday, August 11, 2004, 11:05, Roelof Otten wrote:
> The only way for me to duplicate this somewhat is when I set my view
> for HTML/text and/or HTML-only messages for HTML only. But that
> gives me two tabs HTML and Headers, so that is a bit different from
> what you're experiencing.

BTW, I am using the plain text viewer.

Hmmmh, it seems it happens only to messages encoded in UTF-8.

When I use "View Headers" on HTML-emails; the headers appear in the
text view and I got the usual two tabs Text and HTML.

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Re: Viewing headers...

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Thorvald,

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 10:27:50 +0200GMT (11-8-2004, 10:27 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

TN> Now in some folders, I just get a header view and two tabs appear
TN> beneath the message window: Text and Headers.

The only way for me to duplicate this somewhat is when I set my view
for HTML/text and/or HTML-only messages for HTML only.
But that gives me two tabs HTML and Headers, so that is a bit
different from what you're experiencing.

TN> Anybody knowing what's the reason behind it?

You mentioned 'some folders', might they contain messages from the
same (group of) contacts(s)? If so might they have a different
lay-out? I'm thinking of the text being an attachment or something
like that.

TN> Oh, and Tabs at the bottom are not as good as having tabs at the
TN> top... ;)

As I want to ignore those tabs most of the time, I prefer them at the
bottom. On top they would be too prominent. YMMV

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Viewing headers...

[Thorvald Neumann]

Hæ!

When I hit Ctrl + Shift + K, this shows the headers of an email.

Some messages appear as the always did:

headers then directly message text

Now in some folders, I just get a header view and two tabs appear
beneath the message window: Text and Headers.

Anybody knowing what's the reason behind it?

Oh, and Tabs at the bottom are not as good as having tabs at the
top... ;)

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Re: IMAP Mail Not Loading.

[9Val]

Hello Chris,  

CW> Whereas, I should get a mail with content and have quite a few headers
CW> specified in my mail that should show (see attached again).

CW> Why is this happening?

Which synchronization method do you use? Are those messages huge? What
says connection centre about your IMAP session?

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Re: IMAP Mail Not Loading.

[9Val]

Hello Chris,  

CW> If I change to the latest beta, am I forced to use the new filters, or
CW> do the old filters still work?

New  filters  are disabled by default you can enable them for accounts
you want

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Re: Kaspersky AV Plug-in.

[9Val]

Hello Chris,  

CW> Surely someone must be using Kaspersky successfully with TB! 2.12.03?

CW> I really don't want to have to change AV because of this problem, as
CW> this combination has worked perfectly for me for quite some time.

CW> 9Val - Can you tell me why the option is no longer available?

We  had problems with Kaspersky AntiVirus and have no any response and
contactsfromKaspersky'sside,   so  it  was  disabled. Only
receipt  to  make  Kaspersky  working  is to switch to one of previous
versions of TB! :(

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