Re: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?

2004-12-14 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello WilWilWil & everyone else,

on 15-Dez-2004 at 01:02 you (WilWilWil) wrote:



MP>> Apparently he needs to use it (in/with messenger) for some reason.

> Exactly : To work with MSN Messenger, I had to create a passport with a 
> Hotmail account !

I think you're mixing things up, Wil. You needed to create a Microsoft
*passport* login. You can create that login with *any* email address.

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Re: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?

2004-12-14 Thread Feli Wilcke
Hello WilWilWil,

On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 00:59:37 +0100GMT WilWilWil wrote:

W> I've ever heard about Trillian. I think you can use ICQ
W> and MSN Messenger with it ? True ? Is it Free ?

yes, the basic version is free. Have a look here:
http://www.ceruleanstudios.com/products/overview_basic.php

I also use it for IRC conversations, works great!

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Re: Filter help needed -- incoming/outgoing

2004-12-14 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Tue 14-Dec-04 9:10pm -0600, Munango-Keewati wrote:

> I'm trying to create a filter that will move both incoming and
> outgoing messages to a single folder, based on the name of the sender
> or recipient. That is, I'm trying to collect both messages to and from
> one individual in the same folder for future reference. Incoming
> messages work fine, but outgoing still go to the Sent Mail folder.
> Here's the filter (edited to conceal real names and email addresses):

TB! can't do that.  You should start off by reading
about filters - there's plenty of good references on
the WWW.

Why do you feel you need to do this in a single filter?
Once you have a basic idea about what filters are, you
will see that it is a trivial task using two filters -
one for incoming and one for outgoing.

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Re[2]: making folder views "stick"

2004-12-14 Thread ken green
Hello Peter,

Tuesday, December 14, 2004, 11:46:45 AM, you wrote:


> I think the critical point is in the menu "View" -- "Global View
> Mode". This should be set to "No View Mode", then the special folder
> views will stick.


OK, got that. Thanks. But how do I get the global views not to be
global?? ;)

Errr.. in other words, sometimes I am looking a folder that is
normally using my Thread by Ref Global view and I want to view threads
by subject *temporarily*.  If I invoke threading by subject using
Alt+2 (same as View|View Threads By.. Subject) then that affects *all*
my folders.  Why is that?

I guess a better question would be what is the difference between the
View|View Threads By... option and the View|Global View... options?

How do I quickly change the view/threading of one folder without
affecting other folders?

Thanks for you help.  I know (or knew...) how to do this

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Re: OTR Afterthoughts

2004-12-14 Thread Munango-Keewati
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Re[2]: Filter help needed -- incoming/outgoing

2004-12-14 Thread Munango-Keewati
On Tuesday, December 14, 2004, 9:22:08 PM, you wrote:

> Hello Munango-Keewati,
> Tuesday, December 14, 2004, 9:10:31 PM, you wrote:

MK>> Any suggestions on how to make this work?

> Do you have this in the Sorting Office under outgoing mail as well as
> Incoming Mail. Actually, you don't have to have Sender and Recipient
> in both, just sender in Incoming and Recipient in the Outgoing.
 
Bingo!  (I've got so many incoming filters, I couldn't see the other
varieties.)



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Re: Filter help needed -- incoming/outgoing

2004-12-14 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Munango-Keewati,
Tuesday, December 14, 2004, 9:10:31 PM, you wrote:

MK> Any suggestions on how to make this work?

Do you have this in the Sorting Office under outgoing mail as well as
Incoming Mail. Actually, you don't have to have Sender and Recipient
in both, just sender in Incoming and Recipient in the Outgoing.
 

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Filter help needed -- incoming/outgoing

2004-12-14 Thread Munango-Keewati
Hello tbudl,

I'm trying to create a filter that will move both incoming and
outgoing messages to a single folder, based on the name of the sender
or recipient. That is, I'm trying to collect both messages to and from
one individual in the same folder for future reference. Incoming
messages work fine, but outgoing still go to the Sent Mail folder.
Here's the filter (edited to conceal real names and email addresses):

 TB! Message Filter 
beginFilter
UID: [FE986F40.01C4D743.2399DB9B.441DBA0B]
Name: First\20Lastnameon
Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@domain.com\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CTreasure\20Mountain\5CSave\5CLast\20Firstname
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter  

Any suggestions on how to make this work?

Thanks in advance.

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Re[3]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?

2004-12-14 Thread WilWilWil


MP> I'm using Trillian [ that's not Mary! :-) ] instead
I've ever heard about Trillian. I think you can use ICQ and MSN Messenger with 
it ? True ? Is it Free ?

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Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?

2004-12-14 Thread WilWilWil


MDP> So - why not get a new passport based on your regular email address
MDP> and use that and save yourself all these issues?
If I've known that I can use my regular mail, sure, I did it. You are sure that 
my MSN account will not be deleted ?

But an other question : MSN use mail address and not nickname or number (like 
ICQ)  for people can connect you. It will put my regular address visible. Not 
dangerous concerning spam ?

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Re[3]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?

2004-12-14 Thread WilWilWil


MP> Apparently he needs to use it (in/with messenger) for some reason.

Exactly : To work with MSN Messenger, I had to create a passport with a Hotmail 
account !
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Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?

2004-12-14 Thread WilWilWil



TB>  Who uses Hotmail anyway other than kids and spammers?
A lot of students use it in France. Be sure...

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Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?

2004-12-14 Thread WilWilWil


TB>  What has MSN got to do with Hotmail, apart from the fact they're both 
Microsoft.
I don't know exactly the difference. It's difficult for me to understand. I try 
to explain the history :

1- First I needed an instant electronic mail : so I 've chosen MSN Messenger
2- To work with MSN Messenger, I had to create a passport with a Hotmail 
account : so I created an address like [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3- Microsoft force you to have a use of the hotmail at least one time per 
month. If not, your account (mail and messenger account) is deleted !
4-I didn't want to use this hotmail because I've already personal adresses for 
exchange with my friends. I just need messenger
5- So I decided to send and receive automatic mails with TB scheduler to 
simulate an activity of my hotmail, and I hope it will be sufficient.

But I can't manage my hotmail address with TB. And not with foxmail anymore ! 
:-(

And if I want POP and SMTP features with my Microsoft hotmail, it cost 20 EUR 
per year ! :-( A little bit expensive for just using Messenger and never use 
the mails...

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Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?

2004-12-14 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Tony,

Tuesday, December 14, 2004, 11:41:01 PM, you wrote:

TB>  I have a yahoo address for exactly that an it must be so full of crap now I
TB>  daren't look at it. Also my G-Mail account is now getting spam regularly 
after
TB>  about one month and the only place I ever used it is on here.

The small amount of Yahoo mail I receive comes in through The Bat! and there
is no Spam in it.

Nor is there in my G-mail account(none at all!)
I don't know if that has anything to do with the fact that I never could
invite someone for a G-mail account :-)


There are +/- 3 Spam messages per month in my Hotmail account...

Most of the Spam comes in through my partous com account. There's almst none
in my partous be account...

In the .com account I get a lot of Spam that is intended for Americans only.
I suppose this has to do with the fact that it is a .com address. It's easier
to see that someone with a .be account probbly won't be an American... :-)



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Re: Configuring TB to work with MSN e-mail

2004-12-14 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Anthony G. Atkielski & everyone else,

on 14-Dez-2004 at 23:08 you (Anthony G. Atkielski) wrote:

>> Does MSN support pop or IMAP access? If so then TB! should be able to
>> access it.

> Fine, but with what parameters (servers, settings, etc.)?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=msn+pop+server - first hit gives you
the server addresses...

...and shouldn't the provider... uhmmm... provide :) that information?

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Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?

2004-12-14 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Tony,

Tuesday, December 14, 2004, 5:39:14 PM, you wrote:

TB>  Who uses Hotmail anyway other than kids and spammers?

Well, as far as age is concerned, I'm not a kid. Nor am I a spammer.

I do have an Hotmail account though.
Albeit only for the following reasons:

- I used it for testing purposes first (a few messages/month)
- I then also started usng the account for IM, although I seldom use
  Messenger; I'm using Trillian [ that's not Mary! :-) ] instead.

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Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?

2004-12-14 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Tony,

Tuesday, December 14, 2004, 5:39:14 PM, you wrote:

MP>> It is possible (supported by the provider) for UK Yahoo accounts.

TB>  Yahoo? Sorry, I got the wrong end of the twig, I thought he was talking 
about
TB>  Hotmail.

No, you didn't, but somewhere Yahoo was mentioned as being supported by one
of the apps.

TB>  Who uses Hotmail anyway other than kids and spammers?

Apparently he needs to use it (in/with messenger) for some reason.



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Re: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?

2004-12-14 Thread MFPA


Hi

On Tuesday 14 December 2004 at 4:39:14 PM, Tony Boom wrote:

>  Who uses Hotmail anyway other than kids and spammers?

WilWilWil, apparently. He says he has to  ;-)

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Re: Configuring TB to work with MSN e-mail

2004-12-14 Thread Anthony G. Atkielski
Tony Boom writes:

> Does MSN support pop or IMAP access? If so then TB! should be able to access
> it.

Fine, but with what parameters (servers, settings, etc.)?

Yes, MSN (the paying version) supposedly supports POP3/SMTP clients.

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Configuring TB to work with MSN e-mail

2004-12-14 Thread Anthony G. Atkielski
Can TB be configured to access MSN e-mail accounts?  If so, what are the
required parameters?

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Re: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?

2004-12-14 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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> I just test it but it doesn't work. I wait a long time when
> checking for new mail and after 3 mn, error time out !

> If you or somebody else know what is wrong, you can help me if you
> want by private mail, because I don't want to bother the list with
> foxmail help needed.

I would have firstly to create a Hotmail account, and this is what I'd
like to miss since it's used only by kids and spammers. (:

But, it works. I know some people using it successfully (directed only
by Help coming with the program), although I only use occasionally
Foxmail for this UTF-8 support.

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Re: making folder views "stick"

2004-12-14 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi ken,

on Tue, 14 Dec 2004 11:12:59 -0600GMT, you wrote:

kg> Can someone tell me (or point me to a thread/FAQ/bug report) how to
kg> make folder views *stick*??

I think the critical point is in the menu "View" -- "Global View
Mode". This should be set to "No View Mode", then the special folder
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Re: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?

2004-12-14 Thread Ludovic LE MOAL
Hi,

On Monday, December 13, 2004 at 5:13:04 PM, WilWilWil wrote:

> Is there a way to send and receive mails from Hotmail (MSN) ?

That's strange : when you go on Account properties > Transport and
when you click on « Authentification » for « Receive Mail », there's
an MSN (NTLM) option. Strange :)
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making folder views "stick"

2004-12-14 Thread ken green
Can someone tell me (or point me to a thread/FAQ/bug report) how to
make folder views *stick*??

I love v3 of The Bat (main reason I "came back" actually), but I can't
seem to make folder views work the way I want.

If I right-click on a folder and select a global view, nothing
happens. The view is not applied. Same thing if I go to that folder's
properties.  Right-clicking on message list or msg list column headers
produces that same (non) result.

The only way I can change a folder's view (that I can see) is to
right-click on the msg list columns, then go to setup view mode...
Only problem is those changes are *global* - and I'm now viewing ALL
FOLDERS that way.  Not good... :(

Note that I can switch between threaded views (Alt+1, Alt+2) correctly
- those views were set up and seem to "stick." But trying to apply the
Generic view or any other special views I have set up doesn't seem to
do anything.

I don't remember TheBat behaving this way with folder views.  What am
I doing wrong?

Sorry if this was recently asked/solved.  I couldn't find the answer
in my searches.

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Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?

2004-12-14 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Tony,

Tuesday, December 14, 2004, 4:51:25 PM, you wrote:

TB>  Hotmail on the other hand doesn't, I'm pretty sure of that. You'll need a 
third
TB>  party addon like web2pop to be able to do it. The Bat can't access web 
based
TB>  email unless pop access is supported by the provider.

It is possible (supported by the provider) for UK Yahoo accounts.

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%AB Macros and Addressbook filter question

2004-12-14 Thread Andrew
Hi All,

I noticed that I was getting mail to "me" but that my name wasn't in
the original TO or was misspelled.

I cam up with this. It makes sure that the sender is consistent, and
that the right alias return address is used.
%FROM='"%ABOTOHandle" <%OTOADDR>'

But this led me to these thoughts:

Is there an easier or more logical way to do this? Is there no display
name AB key word or similar that would insert the entry as it would if
manually selected from the address book (might be handy when sending
mail too). Right now, I take the display name and have to copy it over
to the handle, but if I change something in the address book, I need
to update the handle as well...

How does the default address filter decide how to add addresses? Is
there a better way than the default one, which seems to do add every
combo of name even though the e-mail addy is obviously already in
there. 


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Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?

2004-12-14 Thread WilWilWil


MM> Yes, you do. Hotmail/MSN sending and receiving and Yahoo mail receiving
MM> (with version 5).
I just test it but it doesn't work. I wait a long time when checking for new 
mail and after 3 mn, error time out !

If you or somebody else know what is wrong, you can help me if you want by 
private mail, because I don't want to bother the list with foxmail help needed.

Thanks

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