Re: Xray - How to filter?

[Robin Anson]

On Tue 18 January 2005, 21:37:42 +1000, Gerard wrote:
> Does anyone use filters in manipulating the headers with Xray?

Yes I do (my X-Mailer header).

> The help file seems to be old and I can not seem to make it work.
> What I want to do is simple:
>
> On a certain TO: address I want to add a Header, but I can not figure out the
> format to do this in?

What version of XRay are you using? The latest version (1.4) has a
simpler system for setting up filters than earlier versions did.

What header to you want to add and why can't you do it with TB!?


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Re: Mail Dispatcher - Manual start?

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Thorvald,

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:43:47 +0100GMT (19-1-2005, 8:43 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

TN> Is it possible to start the mail dispatcher for an account by a
TN> shortcut?

Ctrl Shift F2

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Re: Xray - How to filter?

[Gerard]

ON Wednesday, January 19, 2005, 7:29:59 AM, you wrote:
RA> What version of XRay are you using? The latest version (1.4) has a
RA> simpler system for setting up filters than earlier versions did.

RA> What header to you want to add and why can't you do it with TB!?

Hi Robin,

I was using 1.0.4 and just upgraded to 1.4. At least it has a better help file
:-)

I wanted to do some conditional processing on the headers/kludges and thought
this would be easiest in Xray, but I could not crack the filtering system.
I am making slow progress though :-)
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Xray Download

[B R i a N S]

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Where i can download the Xray plugin?

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Re: Xray Download

[RT]

Bonjour,

Le mercredi 19 janvier 2005 à 14:01:57, est arrivé dans ma BAL le courrier 
suivant :

BRiaNS> Where i can download the Xray plugin?
http://www.xrayapp.com/xray/xray.shtml

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Re: Xray Download

[Gerard]

ON Wednesday, January 19, 2005, 2:01:57 PM, you wrote:
BRiaNS> Hi Tbudlers,

BRiaNS> Where i can download the Xray plugin?


http://www.xrayapp.com/xray/xray.shtml

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Re: Mail Dispatcher - Manual start?

[Thorvald Neumann]

Hæ!

Wednesday, January 19, 2005, 10:36, Roelof Otten wrote:
> Ctrl Shift F2

Thanks, that's it. :)

Couldn't find the shortcut in the help file.

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Re: Xray - How to filter?

[Bill McCarthy]

On Wed 19-Jan-05 12:29am -0600, Robin Anson wrote:

> What header to you want to add and why can't you do it with TB!?

One example is X-Mailer - it can't be modified in TB!.
The simplest approach is to eliminate it in TB! and add
your own in Xray.

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Re: Xray Download

[B R i a N S]

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Gerard> ON Wednesday, January 19, 2005, 2:01:57 PM, you wrote:
BRiaNS>> Hi Tbudlers,

BRiaNS>> Where i can download the Xray plugin?


Gerard> http://www.xrayapp.com/xray/xray.shtml

thanks!!! :)

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Re: Xray - How to filter?

[Gerard]

ON Wednesday, January 19, 2005, 2:48:43 PM, you wrote:
BM> One example is X-Mailer - it can't be modified in TB!.
BM> The simplest approach is to eliminate it in TB! and add
BM> your own in Xray.

There is no discussion. Xray can do almost anything with headers and the
filtering, although it has a difficult interface, can do al sorts of great
tricks.

The best thing is that you can do this on email that arrives before it is being
handled by the TB! filters. This creates an number of very nice possibility.

Like was suggested before, Xray should really be integrated into TB!.

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Attachments

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello tbudl,

  I notice that when I download a message with an attachment such as
.doc or .xls that the icon beside the attachment shows the icon for the
program that will open the attachment. This does not happen with .html
or .pdf documents. Is there a reason for this and can it be fixed so
that they do show up.

 I have also noticed that when you click on an attachment and select
Open, you get a message warning you about opening the document. It
also has a note inferring that you can permanently remove this
warning. If this is possible can you explain how?

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Re: Xray - How to filter?

[Mica Mijatovic]

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> Like was suggested before, Xray should really be integrated into TB!.

Please don't. (-: Would be even much better if already integrated things
could be disintegrated and, on the need, plugged in/unplugged as
modules.

Just the voice of mine, as of those who do not think at all that it
would be a good idea. (:

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Re: Attachments

[Andrew]

Hello Stuart,

Wednesday, January 19, 2005, 2:13:00 PM, you wrote and sent the following:

>   I notice that when I download a message with an attachment such as
> .doc or .xls that the icon beside the attachment shows the icon for the
> program that will open the attachment. This does not happen with .html
> or .pdf documents. Is there a reason for this and can it be fixed so
> that they do show up.

Do these types of documents show properly when on your desktop? HTML
and PDF icons show just fine in TB! on my machine. Do they open with
the proper program when double-clicked?


>  I have also noticed that when you click on an attachment and select
> Open, you get a message warning you about opening the document. It
> also has a note inferring that you can permanently remove this
> warning. If this is possible can you explain how?

Hold down the shift key while double-clicking the attachment or
Options - Preferences - Protection remove "*.*" from "Always display warning
about these files".


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Re: Xray - How to filter?

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Mica Mijatovic & everyone else,

on 19-Jan-2005 at 20:01 you (Mica Mijatovic) wrote:

>> Like was suggested before, Xray should really be integrated into TB!.

> Please don't. (-: Would be even much better if already integrated things
> could be disintegrated and, on the need, plugged in/unplugged as
> modules.

Oh yes, that would be ace!

Plug in the POP3 module, plug out the IMAP module, the mailchat module, the
HTML editor module... :-)

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Re[2]: Attachments

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Andrew,
Wednesday, January 19, 2005, 2:17:58 PM, you wrote:

A> Do these types of documents show properly when on your desktop? HTML
A> and PDF icons show just fine in TB! on my machine. Do they open with
A> the proper program when double-clicked?

Yes the html and pdf extensions work fine in other places,just not in
The Bat!


A> Hold down the shift key while double-clicking the attachment or
A> Options - Preferences - Protection remove "*.*" from "Always display warning
A> about these files".

 Thanks. I see I can just add the extensions I want to open in the
list as well.


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I have returned

[Michael L. Wilson]

TB UDL ERS,

I tried Thunderbird for about two months.  I am back to the bat.
Great program.

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Re: I have returned

[Thomas Martin]

Hello Michael,

on Wednesday, 19. January 2005, at 14:33:42 [GMT -0800] you wrote
regarding "I have returned":

> I tried Thunderbird for about two months.  I am back to the bat.
> Great program.

Nice to have you back. Back to the roots :)

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Re: I have returned

[Terry G. Munson]

Hello Michael,

Wednesday, January 19, 2005, 2:33:42 PM, you wrote:

> I am back to the bat.

Missed your long signatures. ;-)

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Re: I have returned

[Allie Martin]

On Wednesday, January 19, 2005 at 5:33:42 PM [GMT -0500], Michael L.
Wilson wrote:

> I tried Thunderbird for about two months. I am back to the bat.
> Great program.

I was using ThunderBird pretty much exclusively for a couple months
myself. I've since started using TB! at home and ThunderBird at work.
I cannot use ThunderBird at work. I've now entered the realm of being
able to use different clients at different locations. I had a serious
problem with the inconsistency and my consistent side insisted that I
use only one. I guess using Thunderbird and growing accustomed to it
allows me to easily use both. It's like being fluent in 2 languages.
:)

One things for sure. My fluent use of ThunderBird has opened up my
eyes to a lot of problems with TB! and the reverse certainly/obviously
applies as well.

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Re: Attachments

[MAU]

Hello Stuart,

>   I notice that when I download a message with an attachment such as
> .doc or .xls that the icon beside the attachment shows the icon for the
> program that will open the attachment. This does not happen with .html
> or .pdf documents. Is there a reason for this and can it be fixed so
> that they do show up.

I have seen this happen just a few times with .html and I don't blame
TB, at least 100%.

The way I have recovered is by "re-selecting" the icon for html in
Windows Explorer: My steps in Win2000 are:

- On Win Explorer select Tools/Folder Options/File types.
- On the list of file types select html
- On the frame for "Details for HTML extension" click on the Advance
button.
- When the "Edit File Type" dialog opens click on the "Change Icon"
button.
- On the "Change Icon" dialog enter the path for Internet Explorer
which, in my case, is C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
and graphically select the icon I want to use.

After that and after re-starting TB the html icon shows properly in TB.
I assume the same thing should work for PDF or any other file type.

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Re: Xray - How to filter?

[Robin Anson]

On Thu 20 January 2005, 0:48:43 +1000, Bill Mccarthy wrote:
>> What header to you want to add and why can't you do it with TB!?
>
> One example is X-Mailer - it can't be modified in TB!.
> The simplest approach is to eliminate it in TB! and add
> your own in Xray.

Which, as I noted in my response to Gerard, is what I do. However most
headers you can manipulate in TB! I was wondering whether he wanted to
modify the X-Mailer or some other header.

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Re: Xray - How to filter?

[Robin Anson]

On Wed 19 January 2005, 21:10:11 +1000, Gerard wrote:
> I wanted to do some conditional processing on the headers/kludges and thought
> this would be easiest in Xray, but I could not crack the filtering system.
> I am making slow progress though :-)

If you can explain what you are trying to do, I will see if I can help.

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Re: Version compatibility

[MFPA]

Hi

On Sunday 16 January 2005 at 5:01:38 PM, in
, Buiculescu Virgil wrote:


> (I assume you're using only one sent mail folder)

How do you do that?
TB! creates a sent mail folder for each account I create.


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Re[2]: Attachments

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello MAU,
Wednesday, January 19, 2005, 6:58:45 PM, you wrote:

M> - On Win Explorer select Tools/Folder Options/File types.
M> - On the list of file types select html
M> - On the frame for "Details for HTML extension" click on the Advance
M> button.
M> - When the "Edit File Type" dialog opens click on the "Change Icon"
M> button.
M> - On the "Change Icon" dialog enter the path for Internet Explorer
M> which, in my case, is C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
M> and graphically select the icon I want to use.

M> After that and after re-starting TB the html icon shows properly in TB.
M> I assume the same thing should work for PDF or any other file type.

Thanks, I will give it a try when I get back to work. I see it is
working as it should on my home computer.

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Re: Xray - How to filter?

[Melissa Reese]

Hi Alexander,

On Wednesday, January 19, 2005, at 12:35:32 PM PST, you wrote:

> Plug in the POP3 module, plug out the IMAP module, the mailchat
> module, the HTML editor module... :-)

You forgot to unplug the "smiley" module as well! :-)

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List headers?

[Leo Landa]

Hello,

I have a question about The Bat! having any functionality relating to
mailing list-related headers. Most well-behaving lists add certain
headers to messages in order to communicate the list management
information properly. Even the TBUDL list does this:

List-Id: tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com
List-Unsubscribe:
, 
  
List-Post:    
List-Help:   
List-Subscribe:
,
 

Now, a mailer such as PINE, when showing a message with those headers,
presents text that indicates the ability to do management and a
special link - which transfers the user to the management options
(subscribe/unsubscribe, etc.)

So, can The Bat! do something with this, or is it still missing
functionality?

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Re: List headers?

[Chris]

Leo Landa @ 2005-Jan-19 10:49:22 PM
"List headers?" 

> I have a question about The Bat! having any functionality relating
> to mailing list-related headers. Most well-behaving lists add
> certain headers to messages in order to communicate the list
> management information properly. Even the TBUDL list does this:



> Now, a mailer such as PINE, when showing a message with those
> headers, presents text that indicates the ability to do management
> and a special link - which transfers the user to the management
> options (subscribe/unsubscribe, etc.)

> So, can The Bat! do something with this, or is it still missing
> functionality?

Yes. Special -> Mailing List -> ...

By the way, your cut mark is missing. You need a "-- " (that's
dash-dash-space) before your name.

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Re: I have returned

[Roman Katzer]

Hi Allie,

On Wednesday, January 19, 2005, 19:49:19, Allie Martin wrote:
> One things for sure. My fluent use of ThunderBird has opened up my
> eyes to a lot of problems with TB! and the reverse certainly/obviously
> applies as well.

I'm curious. What do you see as the most important advantages and
disadvantages of both clients? What do you like most and least about both?

Regards,
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Re: Xray - How to filter?

[Gerard]

ON Thursday, January 20, 2005, 2:42:49 AM, you wrote:
RA> If you can explain what you are trying to do, I will see if I can help.

Thanks for the offer but it is all working now.

The problem I had is that I tried to do it to simple.
I tried To=Hans, which did not work but T0=H did give a true results. I still do
not know it did.

I now found with the new documentation that it has to be:
$To==Hans

You can even use more then one and couple them with logical operators :-)
Very easy once you know how.

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Re: Xray - How to filter?

[Gerard]

ON Wednesday, January 19, 2005, 8:01:39 PM, you wrote:
MM> Please don't. (-: Would be even much better if already integrated things
MM> could be disintegrated and, on the need, plugged in/unplugged as
MM> modules.

MM> Just the voice of mine, as of those who do not think at all that it
MM> would be a good idea. (:

Hi Mica,

If it were possible this would be a great options. Sort of like a cafeteria
model for software. You only take what you want.

It could even help TB! become acceptable for business use with a appointment
scheduling module and contact database. Which can be left out by those feeling
the a "real" e-mail program works in only 7bit ASCII and should not take up more
memory space then 15KB ;-)


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