TBUDL Mission Statement

2005-05-01 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
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 TBUDL Mission statement

The  TBUDL  list  has  been set up for the purpose of discussing The
Bat! and how to use it. It is a community of users ready and able to
help  new  users  get to grips with some of the capabilities of this
flexible  email  client.  More  complex  issues are discussed on the
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The Roguemoticon Project


It's  nice to see your contact's face in the header ... and for them
to  see  yours. That's what roguemoticons are all about. If you wish
to add yourself, then you'll need to visit this site
http://www.pcwize.com/thebat
What  this  place  will  do  for  you  is  to allow you to create an
account,  add  your  image  and  then  let  you download a .ZIP file
containing  all  the  files  you'll  need to be able so see people's
faces  without  having  to  send  or  receive any real images in any
messages.

To trigger the roguemoticon display in the message header for anyone
reading  your  message  using  TB,  you have the choice of using the
X-Rogue: header or a signature trigger.

  How to use a signature trigger
The  image  is  triggered  by  a 'Handle' you've defined in your
account,  and  when  that  Handle  appears  in a message it gets
replaced on the client side by the corresponding image. A handle
could  look  like anything you want it to look like pretty much.
For example:
:Leif_Gregory:
Just add this text to your standard message signature block.

  How to create the X-Rogue: header
You can do that with this macro:
%SetHeader('X-Rogue',':your_handle:')%-  in  your  templates for
this and other tb-lists.
However, the macro alone won't do the trick.
TB'll  say: 'Hey, that's not any RFC822 header I know about', so
you'll have to define it as such:
Options  ..  Preferences .. Messages .. Message headers .. 'Add'

Now you'll get a pop-up to define the header

  Display as: X-Rogue (or whatever, it isn't very important)
  RFC header: X-Rogue
  Uncheck: 'This field is an address list' (because it isn't)
  Check: 'Allow this field to be edited in the message editor'
  Uncheck:  'Display  this  field  in the scrollable part of the
  header pane'

Now you're done and every TB-user can see your lovable face when
they've installed the roguemoticons.

For you to see peoples faces:

  To get this going, you should be running TB! v2.12 or later. Fetch
  the following file:
  http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/smileys/rogues.zip

  Unzip it to the 'Images' directory that's in your TB! installation
  directory: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images
  You  should  now  have a directory called 'rogues' containing many
  images  as well as the file 'rogues.msl' in your Images directory.
  Go into the preferences, and bring up the View/Editor options. Now
  hit  Shift-CTRL-Alt-T  while  TB!  is in focus. This will re-fetch
  TB!'s smiley set from disk and load the new images.


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Virtual folder strange behavior when deleting message

2005-05-01 Thread Jarle H. Knudsen
I have a virtual folder that contains messages from several physical
folders with a filter that selects based on sender. The virtual folder
is sorted on the received column.

When I delete a message in the virtual folder with the delete-key the
displayed message is not the next one according to the sort, but a
totally different one.

This is obviously not the expected behavior and it makes it difficult
to go through all the messages in the folder.

Can anyone offer any help or advice on how to remedy the situation or
as to why The Bat! behaves like this?


Best regards,
Jarle H. Knudsen



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Re: Virtual folder strange behavior when deleting message

2005-05-01 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Jarle,

  A reminder of what Jarle H. Knudsen typed on:
  May 1, 2005 at 12:46:54 GMT +0200


JHK Can anyone offer any help or advice on how to remedy the situation or
JHK as to why The Bat! behaves like this?

I cannot confirm this specific behavior but when I select a message to
delete the message is not deleted and it moves to the next message.
Reselecting and deleting a second time does delete the message. This
does not happen to every message so something is not consistent. Any
confirmations.


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 Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.2  
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Was I dreaming...?

2005-05-01 Thread Admin at AK
Back before Christmas there was mention of an updated version of TB.

Sometime earlier this year there was an email about a version of TB that would 
run from a memory stick.

Were these both dreams I had or have I missed something?

-- 
Marten Gallagher
Annery Kiln Web Design
www.annerykiln.co.uk
Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33
with POPFile 0.22.1
on Windows XP 5.1 




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Re: Was I dreaming...?

2005-05-01 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Sunday, May 1, 2005, Admin at AK wrote:

 Back before Christmas there was mention of an updated version of TB.

 Sometime earlier this year there was an email about a version of
 TB that would run from a memory stick.

 Were these both dreams I had or have I missed something?

new version 3.5 with major changes in GUI will be released in May, we
have first Release Candidate actually.

-- 

Bye

Marek Mikus
Czech support of The Bat!
http://www.thebat.cz

Using the best The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1
under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line

 



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Re: Virtual folder strange behavior when deleting message

2005-05-01 Thread Robin Anson
Stuart

On Sun 1 May 2005, 23:39:33 +1000, Stuart Cuddy wrote:
 I cannot confirm this specific behavior but when I select a message to
 delete the message is not deleted and it moves to the next message.
 Reselecting and deleting a second time does delete the message. This
 does not happen to every message so something is not consistent. Any
 confirmations.

I think you will find that the first time you delete the message it
moves to the trash folder, but the conditions that cause it to remain in
the virtual folder still apply, so it is still there. Second time you
delete it removes it from the trash folder and it then disappears from
the virtual folder.

If you have the folder displayed as part of your virtual folder view,
this will be apparent.

-- 
Robin

Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2




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Re: Was I dreaming...?

2005-05-01 Thread Robin Anson
Marek

On Mon 2 May 2005, 5:12:20 +1000, Marek Mikus wrote:
 new version 3.5 with major changes in GUI will be released in May, we
 have first Release Candidate actually.

Now I'm getting excited!

But what happened to versions 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, 3.4???

-- 
Robin

Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2




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Re: Was I dreaming...?

2005-05-01 Thread Mic Cullen
At 09:19 [GMT+1000] on Monday May 2 (actual time - 7:19am on Monday in Perth,
Western Australia), you wrote:

 new version 3.5 with major changes in GUI will be released in May, we
 have first Release Candidate actually.

Robin Now I'm getting excited!

Robin But what happened to versions 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, 3.4???

They're not close enough to 4.0, which is a paid upgrade again.


 :-)

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cheers, mic

If you haven't found something strange during the day, it hasn't been much of 
a day.
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Re[2]: Virtual folder strange behavior when deleting message

2005-05-01 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Robin,
Sunday, May 1, 2005, 5:30:21 PM, you wrote:

RA Stuart

RA On Sun 1 May 2005, 23:39:33 +1000, Stuart Cuddy wrote:
 I cannot confirm this specific behavior but when I select a message to
 delete the message is not deleted and it moves to the next message.
 Reselecting and deleting a second time does delete the message. This
 does not happen to every message so something is not consistent. Any
 confirmations.

RA I think you will find that the first time you delete the message it
RA moves to the trash folder, but the conditions that cause it to remain in
RA the virtual folder still apply, so it is still there. Second time you
RA delete it removes it from the trash folder and it then disappears from
RA the virtual folder.

RA If you have the folder displayed as part of your virtual folder view,
RA this will be apparent.

I  see,  in  other words do not include your trash folder in a Virtual
folder.

-- 
 Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows 98 4.10 Build   A 



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Re: Was I dreaming...?

2005-05-01 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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 ~( __ _o   Was another beautiful day, Mon, 2 May 2005,
   @  @  at 09:19:01 +1000, when Robin Anson wrote:

 On Mon 2 May 2005, 5:12:20 +1000, Marek Mikus wrote:
 new version 3.5 with major changes in GUI will be released in May, we
 have first Release Candidate actually.

 Now I'm getting excited!

Hehehe... Spare few drops of hormones, just in case you'd need them for
something...real. (-:

 But what happened to versions 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, 3.4???

Hmmm... You are too much into conventional math, Robin. (-:

(But I am anyway curious about that major changes in GUI. What would
be that...)

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Re: Was I dreaming...?

2005-05-01 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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   ***^\ ._)~~
 ~( __ _o   Was another beautiful day, Sun, 1 May 2005,
   @  @  at 20:09:17 +0100, when Admin at AK wrote:

 Back before Christmas there was mention of an updated version of TB.

 Sometime earlier this year there was an email about a version of TB
 that would run from a memory stick.

 Were these both dreams I had or have I missed something?

Some dreams are of a such sort that (wo)man feel a strong need to wake
up as soon as possible, preferably immediately. Unfortunately, it's not
always possible. (-:

(I am sorry to be such a pain in brain, but at least *one* reverend
participant on this friendly list has to be a bit...snappy in critique,
or the dreams might become pretty...suffocating. Does a good horse
needs a spur actually?)

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Re: Was I dreaming...?

2005-05-01 Thread Roman Katzer
On Sunday, May 1, 2005, 15:12:20, Marek Mikus wrote:

 new version 3.5 with major changes in GUI will be released in May, we
 have first Release Candidate actually.

What, no 4.0? I mean, they could make us pay for IMAP support (which would
work better then, promise!) and bugfixes again.

As for Voyager, I asked about that through their support and got a short
note back that it's not out yet. SOS.

Regards,
Roman



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