Re: Encryption
Jack S. LaRosa @ 2007-1-15 5:57:15 PM "Encryption" > While I'm not into black helicopters as a rule, I do lean towards > lending some credence to what I've read about Google's data-mining > practices and how easily it could be subverted. It occurred to me > that perhaps that might be one reason why some people on this list > seem to use encryption Think of normal e-mail messages as postcards. Encrypted e-mail messages are letters in (really strong, tamper evident) security envelopes. > but since I'm always able to view correspondence from this list > without any decryption that I'm aware of, I'm at a loss to > understand the purpose this encryption. If I can view the email > apparently un-encrypted, where's the protection encryption > supposedly provides? Or am I completely missing the purpose of such > encryption? These e-mail messages are not encrypted; they are signed. If you inspect this message's source, you will see that there is a checksum included. This, along with my public key, will allow you (with the correct software) to determine whether this message has been modified in transit (which it shouldn't have). -- Chris Using The Bat! v3.95.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Today's Oxymoron: Extinct Life pgpyQXA4lQsPK.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Encryption
Hello one and all, Recently I've been exposed to information regarding the real or imagined dangers of using Gmail from Google: (http://www.gmail-is-too-creepy.com/) While I'm not into black helicopters as a rule, I do lean towards lending some credence to what I've read about Google's data-mining practices and how easily it could be subverted. It occurred to me that perhaps that might be one reason why some people on this list seem to use encryption, but since I'm always able to view correspondence from this list without any decryption that I'm aware of, I'm at a loss to understand the purpose this encryption. If I can view the email apparently un-encrypted, where's the protection encryption supposedly provides? Or am I completely missing the purpose of such encryption? Enlightenment would be most appreciated. -- TIA, Jack LaRosa mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Conveying information with The Bat! ver: 3.95.6 Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: changing TB! tray icon
Monday, January 15, 2007, 2:55:41 PM, you wrote: > Hello Batfolk, > I just migrated my TB! install from one windows profile to another. > Most of my settings stayed, minus the three pane view, ticker config, > and my tray icon. I can't figure out how to change my tray icon from > the black-background flying bat to the white background, stationary > bat. How do I do this? *sigh* Figured it out. It's Options > Preferences > General, and uncheck "Icon animation when unread messages are detected". -- Andrew Diederich Using Voyager v3.95.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
changing TB! tray icon
Hello Batfolk, I just migrated my TB! install from one windows profile to another. Most of my settings stayed, minus the three pane view, ticker config, and my tray icon. I can't figure out how to change my tray icon from the black-background flying bat to the white background, stationary bat. How do I do this? Thanks for the help. -- Andrew Diederich Using Voyager v3.95.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! User Documentation Project (TBUDL)
Hi Leif, Monday, January 15, 2007, 2:15:38 PM, you wrote: LG> Good question. I've never used the wiki chat myself. Just off the LG> top of my head, I'd have to say no just based on the fact that LG> unless a logged in user is in the chatroom, I'm not sure how a LG> notification could happen. LG> I just saw you log on, maybe we could test it. Just so the others will know, we did test it and were able to chat, though that is only because we both went into chat at the same time. I'm not sure how useful chatting there really is, but it's nice to know that it *does* work if you happen on another user who has chosen to see if anyone's there waiting to chat. Please let us know if you *do* locate an invitation module that can be added to the Wiki. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.95.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! User Documentation Project (TBUDL)
Hi Leif, Monday, January 15, 2007, 2:15:38 PM, you wrote: LG> I just saw you log on, maybe we could test it. Thanks for all the answers above this. Oops I just logged off, but I'll go back and see if you are there and I'd be glad to try to test it. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.95.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! User Documentation Project (TBUDL)
Hello Perry, Monday, January 15, 2007, 11:32:39 AM, you wrote: > Thank you. Now I'll have to think of something else to add to the > Wiki that goes at the top level. ;-) Please, be my guest. > I'm sure there is a rationale for locking the top level, though I > admit I'm not sure I know what it is. If you want or need to keep it > locked, should we just send you a PM to request that you unlock it > temporarily when we have content we want to enter there? Mainly, it was an attempt to keep some semblance of order at the top level. I didn't want to end up with a five page lead-in page with a bunch of stuff that could be sub-categorized. > Also one other question while I have you by the ears. Is there a way > to invite another registered user who is also logged in there to a > chat while on the Wiki? Good question. I've never used the wiki chat myself. Just off the top of my head, I'd have to say no just based on the fact that unless a logged in user is in the chatroom, I'm not sure how a notification could happen. I just saw you log on, maybe we could test it. -- TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x5D167202 __ Geocaching:http://gps.PCWize.com ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons & Smileys:http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PHP Tutorials and snippets:http://www.DevTek.org I know it sounds like I'm in denial, but I'm not. Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! User Documentation Project (TBUDL)
Hi Leif, Monday, January 15, 2007, 1:18:09 PM, you wrote: LG> Sorry, been busy with other things. The top level is unlocked now. Thank you. Now I'll have to think of something else to add to the Wiki that goes at the top level. ;-) I'm sure there is a rationale for locking the top level, though I admit I'm not sure I know what it is. If you want or need to keep it locked, should we just send you a PM to request that you unlock it temporarily when we have content we want to enter there? Also one other question while I have you by the ears. Is there a way to invite another registered user who is also logged in there to a chat while on the Wiki? -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.95.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! User Documentation Project (TBUDL)
Hello Perry, Monday, January 15, 2007, 10:15:11 AM, you wrote: > Although I still think my request above is a good idea, I have gone > ahead and created the Archive Folders section on the Wiki *under* > the Folders section. That seemed the most logical place. Sorry, been busy with other things. The top level is unlocked now. -- TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x5D167202 __ Geocaching:http://gps.PCWize.com ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons & Smileys:http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PHP Tutorials and snippets:http://www.DevTek.org Sure I can help you out! Which way did you come in? Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Antispam Sniper
There's a filter rule in the Sniper that's disabled by default, to classify as spam any message with attached image files. If you enable it, you should get 100% rejection. Unfortunately it will also reject any messages from friends or family that have attached images, unless those senders are in the "friends" list. Since some of my customers (not in the friends list) attach image files of screen shots when asking for assistance, I can't use this rule -- but it should be quite helpful to most folk. -- Jim Kyle Using The Bat! v3.85.03 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Antispam Sniper
Hello Kitty, On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 you wrote in K> What are your settings? In AntispamSniper Servers/Edit server, I have "filter messages on server then on client" In TB Options/Preferences/Protection/AntiSpam I have "Delete message if score is greater than 70" and "Move message to junk if score greater than 60" K> And you suggested I post about the log in "the forums." What forums K> are those? They're up on the top of the home page but here's the direct address: http://antispamsniper.com/forum/ -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.95.6 with POP3 account & AntispamSniper 1.8.0.5 | Windows XP (build 2600) version 5.1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot | CPU: Athlon 1.09 Ghz | RAM: 1024 MB Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Antispam Sniper
K> I am using the paid version of Antispam Sniper and have 2 questions. K> 1. Lately I've been getting a lot of spam that (1) in the next has a K> bunch of random words to make it look like it isn't spam and then (2) K> there seems to be an embedded image of information about a particular K> stock. I get tons of these and Antispam Sniper never recognizes them K> as spam. I do mark them as spam but this hasn't seemed to help. Has K> anyone seen this? If so, any solutions? K> 2. I like to look at the Antispam Sniper log to see what has been K> marked spam and ham. If I see something mismarked in the log though I K> have to leave the log and then go find the message and mark it K> correctly. Is there any way to do this in the log itself so I don't K> have to go hunt for the message? K> I do largely like antispam sniper but the fact that it never K> identifies anything of these stock tip spams (which in the last few K> months I probably get 20 of a day) is disconcerting. K> Oh, I'm using 3.85.03. I just started using Antispam Sniper last week based on Gunivortus's recommendation and I'm quite impressed. For me, it is catching 100% of the stock-touting spam you described. Frankly, I'm surprised that between Antispam Sniper's filtering and its DNSBL list it isn't catching more for you. What does your log entry typically say for this kind of spam? How are you marking it as spam? If training fails, you can always clear the classification database and start training over again. -- Code 2 :canadaflag: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! version 2.12.00 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Outside a muffler shop: No appointment necessary. We heard you coming. Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! User Documentation Project (TBUDL)
Hi Leif, Sunday, January 14, 2007, 10:30:02 AM, I wrote: PN> Leif, if you are listening, please edit the "How to start writing PN> Wiki pages" and explain how to add a link at the top level. Thanks. Although I still think my request above is a good idea, I have gone ahead and created the Archive Folders section on the Wiki *under* the Folders section. That seemed the most logical place. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.95.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Antispam Sniper
> K>> 1. Lately I've been getting a lot of spam that (1) in the next has a K>> bunch of random words to make it look like it isn't spam and then (2) K>> there seems to be an embedded image of information about a particular K>> stock. I get tons of these and Antispam Sniper never recognizes them K>> as spam. > > Hm, don't know what to say apart from the fact that AntispamSniper > catches every single one every time for me. What are your settings? And you suggested I post about the log in "the forums." What forums are those? -- Best regards, Kittymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Antispam Sniper
Hello Kitty, On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 you wrote in K> 1. Lately I've been getting a lot of spam that (1) in the next has a K> bunch of random words to make it look like it isn't spam and then (2) K> there seems to be an embedded image of information about a particular K> stock. I get tons of these and Antispam Sniper never recognizes them K> as spam. Hm, don't know what to say apart from the fact that AntispamSniper catches every single one every time for me. K> If I see something mismarked in the log though I have to leave the K> log and then go find the message and mark it correctly. Is there any K> way to do this in the log itself Don't think so but it's a very good idea. Why not post a request in one of the forums. The author, Vetaltm, normally responds within 24 hours, he's very attentive. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.95.6 with POP3 account & AntispamSniper 1.8.0.5 | Windows XP (build 2600) version 5.1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot | CPU: Athlon 1.09 Ghz | RAM: 1024 MB Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Antispam Sniper
Hello Kitty, Monday, January 15, 2007, 4:43:49 PM, you wrote: > I am sing the paid version of Antispam Sniper and have 2 questions. I think we are just in one of those stages where the spammers are winning. I too am getting a lot more spam through with Antispam sniper at the moment, but so is my University, who blocked over 1 million spams in the last two weeks, but are still letting more through than usual. Personally, I get about 500 spam mails a day, even though thousands seem to get trapped by my ISPs antispam software, but I do seem to have periods when Anti-spam sniper is not working as I would like - but it has always settled down after a few days -- Best regards, Graham mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.85.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Antispam Sniper
I am using the paid version of Antispam Sniper and have 2 questions. 1. Lately I've been getting a lot of spam that (1) in the next has a bunch of random words to make it look like it isn't spam and then (2) there seems to be an embedded image of information about a particular stock. I get tons of these and Antispam Sniper never recognizes them as spam. I do mark them as spam but this hasn't seemed to help. Has anyone seen this? If so, any solutions? 2. I like to look at the Antispam Sniper log to see what has been marked spam and ham. If I see something mismarked in the log though I have to leave the log and then go find the message and mark it correctly. Is there any way to do this in the log itself so I don't have to go hunt for the message? I do largely like antispam sniper but the fact that it never identifies anything of these stock tip spams (which in the last few months I probably get 20 of a day) is disconcerting. Oh, I'm using 3.85.03. -- Best regards, Kitty mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Duplicate messages
Hello Richard, RO> RW> Are you storing mail on the server? If not try to do so for a day. RW> I only store it for two days anyway :-( I've had a similar problem in the past. Once in awhile I'll get a message that causes TheBat to not do the right thing when downloading (the symptoms will vary, but what you described has happened before). Usually the problem I have is a task the "Connection Centre" not responding and never finishing. Regardless, I also leave my POP mail on the server for a few days before deleting it from the server. I've found that using the "mail dispatch" function of TheBat I can go in and manually delete the spam and that usually takes care of it. Once in awhile I will need to delete some of the mail I've already downloaded (turning off the "leave mail on server" option and getting mail once will likely have the same effect). I get hundreds of emails a day, and I've never had the time to delete them one at a time to try to isolate the one that causes the problem, I usually delete in batches of 100 or more until the problem goes away. Once the offending email is gone from the server, TheBat starts working normally again. I'm not 100% sure TheBat is the cause of the new-mail problem; it could be that the POP server is telling TheBat the wrong info (ie, all messages are new). Perhaps it is because TheBat never go the chance to tell the POP server to mark the messages as "read." In any event, it seems like purging the messages "fixes" the immediate problem. -- James "A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing." -- Emo Philips "There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't." -- Unknown Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
