Re: Selective download big files

2009-07-22 Thread Paul Berger
Hello tb...@thebat.,

Thursday, July 23, 2009, 2:15:11 AM, you wrote:

JK> On Wednesday, July 22, 2009, at 2:27:36 AM, Mark Partous wrote:

>> I don't know if this works for attachments (haven't tried it):

>> Account - Properties - Mail Management -
>> Receive Header Only If Message Is Greater Than

JK> It does work. I've had mine set to 80K for a long time now. I get a
JK> notification message that has a link to the specific mailbox entry, that
JK> takes me to the Connection Centre so that I can read it, download it, or
JK> delete it. I often receive multi-megabyte attachments and it has really
JK> helped me manage them. Here's the first paragraph of the notification
JK> message:

JK> A message with the size exceeding 80 K bytes limit has arrived to your 
address -
JK>  the message number on the server is 1.
JK>  Please take care of it by yourself

JK>  If I get multiple attachments in a single pass, I can go direct to the
JK>  "Check mail on server > All messages" from the menu, and select all of
JK>  them to be downloaded (or just deleted if they are spam) at once. It makes
JK>  life much simpler by letting me choose when to deal with lengthy downloads
JK>  or low disk space.



Many thanks, Jim, Frank and Mark.

This should solve the problem for me. 


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Re:When senders names are separated by commas

2009-07-22 Thread Assad Kety
Hello Robin,
   
On Thursday, July 23, 2009, Robin Anson wrote and made these points
on the subject of "When senders names are separated by commas":

RA> But as Roelof pointed out, if the name with the comma in it is enclosed in
RA> quotes (") it will not cause a problem. What he has suggested will do that.

 Thank you Robin, Roelof and Jens. I got it to work finally!

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Re: When senders names are separated by commas

2009-07-22 Thread Robin Anson
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 at 20:38:34 +0400, Assad wrote:
RO>> %To=''%To='"%OFromName" <%OFromAddress>'%
>
>  Thank  you  for your input.  However, I can't get it working.  In
>  my  opinion, since you use %OFromName, I think it will insert the
>  comma  because TB!  considers the comma to be part of the name in
>  the  original  message  but  when sending, it considers it as two
>  addresses.  Correct me if I am wrong here.

But as Roelof pointed out, if the name with the comma in it is enclosed in
quotes (") it will not cause a problem. What he has suggested will do that.
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Re: Unable to view an email

2009-07-22 Thread Simon
'Ello Dan,

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:12:14 -0700 (your time) you said:

> I  had  the exact same behaviour as Roelef. In my case, I noticed when
> viewing  the  message (sans header) if I went to View -> (uncheck) Use
> Plain  Text Viewer I had everything revert to blank. In other words, I
> was  able to view it with Plain Text Viewer enabled but could not with
> it disabled.

A, well done, thankyou, now I see it!

I wonder though should be the 'normal' behaviour for TB!? Should there be a
need for that option to be checked for the email to be viewed? I would have
thought that TB! should have automatically displayed the email regardless.

> Hope this helps

Yes, it did :-)

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Re: Unable to view an email

2009-07-22 Thread Dan Perez
Hello Simon,

Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 11:53:17 AM, you wrote:

> 'Ello Roelof,

> On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:20:23 +0200 (your time) you said:

>> Both show the contents of the message just fine.
>> I don't know what's wrong with the message...

> Well that's very curious. You say that the message contents show okay? I
> wonder why not for me (or Peter) then.

I  had  the exact same behaviour as Roelef. In my case, I noticed when
viewing  the  message (sans header) if I went to View -> (uncheck) Use
Plain  Text Viewer I had everything revert to blank. In other words, I
was  able to view it with Plain Text Viewer enabled but could not with
it disabled.

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Re: Unable to view an email

2009-07-22 Thread Simon
'Ello Roelof,

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:20:23 +0200 (your time) you said:

> Both show the contents of the message just fine.
> I don't know what's wrong with the message...

Well that's very curious. You say that the message contents show okay? I
wonder why not for me (or Peter) then.

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Re: Unable to view an email

2009-07-22 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Simon,

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:03:29 +0100GMT (22-7-2009, 19:03 +0200, where
I live), you wrote:

P> Also, a grab:

P> http://privateofcourse.co.uk/share/0001EML.png

Over  here  the  date  headers  are visible too, but not the rest. And
Ctrl-Shift-K  does  nothing,  neither for the first nor for the second
.eml you posted.
Both show the contents of the message just fine.
I don't know what's wrong with the message...

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Re: Unable to view an email

2009-07-22 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Roelof,

on  Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:40:22 +0200GMT (22.07.2009, 18:40 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:

RO> Hallo Simon,

RO> On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:04:53 +0100GMT (22-7-2009, 18:04 +0200, where
RO> I live), you wrote:

P>>  No To:, From:, Message-Id:, or Subject: display in TB! either, although
P>>  visible when revelaing the headers using CTRL+SHIFT+K.

P>>  To get at the invisible base64 encoded contents (viewed source to and
P>>  copied it) I modified the email, changed the content type and added
P>>  boundaries to get a decoded part.txt. Here is the original email rarred up:

RO> I  opened  the  provided .eml and I could read the contents just fine,
RO> even   though I couldn't view the headers without resorting to
RO> F9...

What could you read? I opened the EML to see a blank window. F9 gave
me about a hundred lines of this:

//5EAGUAYQByACAATQByACAAQgBsAGEAawBlAA0ACg...KgAqACoAKgAqACoACgA=

hmm

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Re: Unable to view an email

2009-07-22 Thread Simon
'Ello Roelof,

Also, a grab:

http://privateofcourse.co.uk/share/0001EML.png


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Re: Unable to view an email

2009-07-22 Thread Simon
'Ello Roelof,

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:40:22 +0200 (your time) you said:

>  Try this: Tools -> Export messages to -> .eml

http://privateofcourse.co.uk/share/0001.rar

Okay, try this. :-)


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Re[2]: Selective download big files

2009-07-22 Thread Jim Kyle
On Wednesday, July 22, 2009, at 2:27:36 AM, Mark Partous wrote:

> I don't know if this works for attachments (haven't tried it):

> Account - Properties - Mail Management -
> Receive Header Only If Message Is Greater Than

It does work. I've had mine set to 80K for a long time now. I get a
notification message that has a link to the specific mailbox entry, that
takes me to the Connection Centre so that I can read it, download it, or
delete it. I often receive multi-megabyte attachments and it has really
helped me manage them. Here's the first paragraph of the notification
message:

A message with the size exceeding 80 K bytes limit has arrived to your address -
 the message number on the server is 1.
 Please take care of it by yourself

 If I get multiple attachments in a single pass, I can go direct to the
 "Check mail on server > All messages" from the menu, and select all of
 them to be downloaded (or just deleted if they are spam) at once. It makes
 life much simpler by letting me choose when to deal with lengthy downloads
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Re: Unable to view an email

2009-07-22 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Simon,

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:04:53 +0100GMT (22-7-2009, 18:04 +0200, where
I live), you wrote:

P>  No To:, From:, Message-Id:, or Subject: display in TB! either, although
P>  visible when revelaing the headers using CTRL+SHIFT+K.

P>  To get at the invisible base64 encoded contents (viewed source to and
P>  copied it) I modified the email, changed the content type and added
P>  boundaries to get a decoded part.txt. Here is the original email rarred up:

I  opened  the  provided .eml and I could read the contents just fine,
even   though I couldn't view the headers without resorting to F9, the
shortcut  Ctrl-Shift-K  didn't  help  in  this  case, so your uploaded
message might not be identical to what you received.

 How did you generate the .eml?
 My guess is that you did: Message -> Save as -> .eml
 Try this: Tools -> Export messages to -> .eml

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Re:When senders names are separated by commas

2009-07-22 Thread Assad Kety
Hello Roelof,
   
On Wednesday, July 22, 2009, Roelof Otten wrote and made these points
on the subject of "When senders names are separated by commas":

RO> %To=''%To='"%OFromName" <%OFromAddress>'%

 Thank  you  for your input.  However, I can't get it working.  In
 my  opinion, since you use %OFromName, I think it will insert the
 comma  because TB!  considers the comma to be part of the name in
 the  original  message  but  when sending, it considers it as two
 addresses.  Correct me if I am wrong here.

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Unable to view an email

2009-07-22 Thread Simon
'Ello TBUDL,

 I received a reply email from an energy company I was switching to
 yesterday but the email doesn't display in TB!

 No To:, From:, Message-Id:, or Subject: display in TB! either, although
 visible when revelaing the headers using CTRL+SHIFT+K.

 To get at the invisible base64 encoded contents (viewed source to and
 copied it) I modified the email, changed the content type and added
 boundaries to get a decoded part.txt. Here is the original email rarred up:

 http://privateofcourse.co.uk/share/SWALEC.rar

 From the headers:

 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-16"
 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

 Formatted as it is, should this display in TB! as text?

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Re: When senders names are separated by commas

2009-07-22 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Assad,

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:25:36 +0400GMT (22-7-2009, 17:25 +0200, where
I live), you wrote:

AT>  I  was wondering if it is possible to have some templates which
AT>  would  strip  out  the comma from sender's name when I reply.

You might try something like this:
%To=''%To='"%OFromName" <%OFromAddress>'%-
in your reply template.


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Re:When senders names are separated by commas

2009-07-22 Thread Assad Kety
Hello Roelof,
   
On Wednesday, July 22, 2009, Roelof Otten wrote and made these points
on the subject of "When senders names are separated by commas":

AT>> I  wonder  if there is a way to remove the comma when replying so that
AT>> the  message  becomes  in the standard format TB!  understands.  Maybe
AT>> some regexp to do that?

RO> Simply tell your contact to properly configure his mail client.

 Thank  you  for  your  explanation.  Now I got it clear what Jens
 wanted  to  say earlier. However, I receive such formatted emails
 from my banks and other corporate correspondents. To request them
 to change the way they format their name is next to impossible.

 I  was wondering if it is possible to have some templates which
 would  strip  out  the comma from sender's name when I reply. TB!
 is  very  powerful  and I believe a comma won't be a hurdle to
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Re: When senders names are separated by commas

2009-07-22 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Assad,

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:11:43 +0400GMT (22-7-2009, 14:11 +0200, where
I live), you wrote:

AT> Sometimes  I  receive  email where the sender first and second name is
AT> separated by a comma. For instance "John, Doe ".

Well,  according to specs that's supposed to be two addresses. A comma
is used to separate addresses. In order to use a comma (or a point) in
a  name  that  should  be  enclosed by quotation marks, so the address
should be "Doe, John" 

AT> The  problem  is  that  TB! tries to send two emails; one to the correct
AT> email  address  and  another to "john" which TB! considers as an email
AT> address as well!

"john"  is  a  valid e-mail address. Though when you send a message to
john,  a  different john  will be addressed then when I send a message
to  john.  According  to  specs when you send a message to a user name
without  domain,  the  domain  the  receiving smtp server uses will be
used.  As  your  smtp  server  generally  uses the domain you're using
yourself,  your  message  to john will sent to j...@gmail.com and it's
not   unlikely  that  that's  a  valid  address,  though  gmail  might
incorporate restrictions to the use of incomplete addresses.

AT> I  wonder  if there is a way to remove the comma when replying so that
AT> the  message  becomes  in the standard format TB!  understands.  Maybe
AT> some regexp to do that?

Simply tell your contact to properly configure his mail client.


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Re: When senders names are separated by commas

2009-07-22 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Assad Kety,

am Mittwoch, 22. Juli 2009 um 14:11 schrieben Sie:

> Sometimes  I  receive  email where the sender first and second name is
> separated by a comma. For instance "John, Doe ".

> The  problem  is  that  TB! tries to send two emails; one to the correct
> email  address  and  another to "john" which TB! considers as an email
> address as well!

Did you try "Kety, Assad" 

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When senders names are separated by commas

2009-07-22 Thread Assad Kety
Hello All,

Sometimes  I  receive  email where the sender first and second name is
separated by a comma. For instance "John, Doe ".

The  problem  is  that  TB! tries to send two emails; one to the correct
email  address  and  another to "john" which TB! considers as an email
address as well!

I  wonder  if there is a way to remove the comma when replying so that
the  message  becomes  in the standard format TB!  understands.  Maybe
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Re: Selective download big files

2009-07-22 Thread Jens Franik
Guten Tag Paul Berger,

am Mittwoch, 22. Juli 2009 um 04:22 schrieben Sie:

> Is there any way to selectively download emails with big attachments,
> say over 2MB?

In recent times, it has been the rule, not to send Attachments over
1,44 Mb (Floppy Size). Now anything grew bigger (DSL) and i regularly
get Mails with 6,10,15 Mb Size. This should be no problem with DSL
Internet Access.

> In the last few weeks 2 friends of mine have had their mailbox full
> and could no longer use their email. They had to phone their provider
> to delete all emails so they could resume using their email.

There are several Freeware Tools like PostBoxInspektor (it is included
in The Bat! you have to do CTRL-F2 or Shift-CTRL-F2) make it possible
to solve that problem without help of the Provider.
If you log in with PostBoxInspektor, only the Headers of the Mail and
Data like Size are polled and you can select the Mail and delete it
from the Server without downloading it...

Hope this helps, maybe you want to have a look at this feature?

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Re: Selective download big files

2009-07-22 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Paul,

Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 4:22:41 AM, you wrote:

PB> Is there any way to selectively download emails with big attachments,
PB> say over 2MB?

I don't know if this works for attachments (haven't tried it):

Account - Properties - Mail Management -
Receive Header Only If Message Is Greater Than

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