?: New features description

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans!

Since  "Courier  compatibility  mode"  appearance  i  can't  sleep tight
anymore :)

Now we've got a

[*] IMAP Fine-tune option "Use precise counters";
[*] IMAP Fine-tune option "Download only message text while browsing".


Somebody  please  give  a  place  with description new genius ideas of
TheBat team!

Your sincerely registered,
Sasha.



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Re: TB 3.0.1 RC6: move to IMAP folder and copy to Common Folder

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Peter,


11.10.2004, U wrote:

> I get the exact same thing.
> It's a bug I guess.

Thank a lot!

> Since you are using RC6, maybe this should go on TBBeta?

Oooopss  sorry  You are right... I'' wait release 3 0 1 to report that
bug here :)

Regards,
AG



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TB 3.0.1 RC6: move to IMAP folder and copy to Common Folder

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans!

My  task is: filtering IMAP inbox folder (by Address Group criteria of
sender)  and  moving  message in certain IMAP folder and copying that
message into some Common Folder.

The   problem  is  that  inspite  of  activating  option  in  action's
properties  "Mark  copy  As  read",  a  message in IMAP folder becomes
marked as Read, but copy in common folder becomes Unread.

Thank You in advance for ideas!

Your sincerely registered,
Sasha.



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Re: TB 2.12: IMAP: (#0002383) INBOX can be set as pre-defined Outbox, Sent and Trash too

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello 9Val,

15.07.2004, U wrote:
AAG>> Here You are
AAG>> IMAP: (#0002383) INBOX can be set as pre-defined Outbox, Sent and Trash too
> Incorrect citation, original is:

Sorry! You are right!

AAG>> BTW, IMAP account properties Mail management - ROOT folder still
AAG>> doesn't work :(((
> WIP :)

:)
May be You know, how to make The Bat shows all created IMAP folders on
the level of Inbox (outbox, Sent Trash) but not as SUBfolders of Inbox ?
(Courier Mail Server)

Outlook Express CAN do that against the SAME Mail Server, but The Bat
:((



Regards,
AG



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TB 2.12: IMAP: (#0002383) INBOX can be set as pre-defined Outbox, Sent and Trash too

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans!

Here You are
IMAP: (#0002383) INBOX can be set as pre-defined Outbox, Sent and Trash too

Would You explain the sense of that hightech frase ? :)))
BTW, IMAP account properties Mail management - ROOT folder still
doesn't work :(((


Your sincerely registered,
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IMAP: Inbox = ROOT

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans!

Well, have someone got a success to View as INBOX both user created on
Root level ?
I mean, that all folders created by me is placed as subfolders of
INBOX...

upgrading to 2.12 seems to be useless

Courier Mail Server

Any advices and comments would be appreciable!

Your sincerely registered,
Sasha.



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Re: IMAP: filtering doesn't work

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

25.02.2004, U wrote:
> Alexander A. Gomanyuk, [AAG] wrote:

AAG>> Wow! Cool features! :))) Just read on thebat forum about IMAP
AAG>> realization problem... Now i'm in depression... :)))

AAG>> By the way, would You clarify, why, even after registration and
AAG>> logging in a can't post new message there ?

> Where is 'there'?  I don't understand. Which system have you
> registered and logged unto?

http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forum/list.php?FID=14


Regards,
AG



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Re: IMAP: filtering doesn't work

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Allie,

25.02.2004, U wrote:
AAG>> I'm wondering, does anybody uses IMAP ? My problem is that all
AAG>> incoming filtering works just after manually starting via menu
AAG>> item Refilter messages.

> Autofiltering of Inbox mail hasn't been implemented yet. It's planned
> for the next release.

Wow! Cool features! :)))
Just read on thebat forum about IMAP realization problem... Now i'm in
depression... :)))

By the way, would You clarify, why, even after registration and
logging in a can't post new message there ?


Regards,
AG



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Re: One account for home and work

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Allie,


21.02.2004, U wrote:

> With IMAP that problem doesn't exist. I fire up ThunderBird at work
> and see all folders with messages read and unread just as they are
> with TB! at home.

Alie! Have U seen normal filtering of Incoming mail of IMAP account
?!! It seems doesn't work for me :(( It perfectly works with POP3 as
it's well known, it works for Outgoing mail of IMAP but DOESN't for
Incoming mail of IMAP account :



Regards,
AG



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IMAP: filtering doesn't work

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans!

I'm wondering, does anybody uses IMAP ?
My problem is that all incoming filtering works just after manually
starting via menu item Refilter messages.

BUT Outgoing filtering works correcly.

Any ideaz would be appreciable!

Your sincerely registered,
Sasha.



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IMAP account: backup and restore.

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans!

One of the weakest place of IMAP approach from my viewpoint is
probability to lose remote message base. In fact we have no direct access to
files of some host with IMAP server.

Well... TB2 has a backup|restore tools... That CAN backup IMAP folder
(in fact it's local folders FULLY synchronized with remote folders on
IMAP server) so it can be good solution BUT...

TB2 restores messages into the local cache NO MORE and don't post that restored 
messages
in remote IMAP folders.

Have i missed something, or it's documented feature :((( of TB2 ?

Your sincerely registered,
Sasha.



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IMAP settings: what is ROOT folder

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans!

I'm trying to set up TB for working with IMAP.
Yes... it works... Somehow...

Would U clarify the folowing.

What for and what is this  Mail managment-Root folder place of setting
TB IMAP account ?

The matter is that IMAP server (i'm working with) itself have INBOX folder and don't 
let
to create on the SAME level, just subfolders...

So i can't understan HOW TB will use that setting ?

Your sincerely registered,
Sasha.



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One account for home and work

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans!

Would You share Your experience?

I guess, that it's standard situation when somebody have one PC at
home and one PC at work.

So I'm looking for solution, how to synchronize one account (message
base) for that two PCs, to have equal message bases, so when replying at home,
don't reply at work etc...

Yes i know about IMAP, but if exists any POP3|SMTP solution?

Your sincerely registered,
Sasha.



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Re: TB2 CE doesn't remember columns width

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

20.01.2004, U wrote:
> Alexander A. Gomanyuk wrote:

AAG>> Even after creating and applying certain ViewMode simple
AAG>> switching between folders changes columns width to some default
AAG>> value.

AAG>> If exists solution, guys?

> The only solution I can think of is to patiently wait for the upcoming
> release. Issues with the view modes have been just about fully dealt
> with.

Thank U, Allie! Now I feel much better :) Yes we will.




Regards,
AG



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TB2 CE doesn't remember columns width

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans!

Even after creating and applying certain ViewMode simple switching
between folders changes columns width to some default value.

If exists solution, guys?

Thank You in advance!

Your sincerely registered,
Sasha.



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TB2 CE doesn't remember folders columns settings

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans!

After upgrading to TB2 CE I've encountered  then TB got a new options,
concerning folder settings BUT now it wont remember folder settings
and every start loads something default for ALL folders.

Have i missed something?
Any advices would be very appreciable!


Your sincerely registered,
Sasha.



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PGPlog window: how to kill

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans!

After each decoding messages from CERTAIN address annoying PGPlog
window appears. If exist way to understand what is this and why and
how to KILL it forever ?

Your sincerely registered,
Sasha.



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Re: International Spell Checking

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

http://ps.yaroslavl.ru/russian.exe  :)


13.10.2003, U wrote:
> Hello Batmans!

> It's so sad, that i can't spell check my native (Russian) non English mail
> :(((

> Does anybody succeeded that ?

> Any ideas would be very appreciable!

> Your sincerely registered,
> Sasha.


> 
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Regards,
AG



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International Spell Checking

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans!

It's so sad, that i can't spell check my native (Russian) non English mail
:(((

Does anybody succeeded that ?

Any ideas would be very appreciable!

Your sincerely registered,
Sasha.



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Re: Send-Reply: how to organize thread ?

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Thomas,

12.10.2003, U wrote:
> Hello Vishal,

> On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:22:00 -0400 GMT (12/10/2003, 22:22 +0700 GMT),
> Vishal wrote:

AAG>>> You are completely right! It's not possibly to create folder for each
AAG>>> unpredictable person.

> But you can create a folder for "Others". Into this folder you can
> fitler both incoming messages and sent messages; this way you have the
> threads complete.

>> You could set the threading option for your inbox and it should help
>> matters a lot, at least as far as threading goes.

> The threads wouldn't be complete, as his replies are not in that
> folder.

I think, that approach, when Sent and Incoming mail of certain Group
of users is copying (moving)  into certain folder, view of which is set
on Threaded,  all of that is not so bad solution.
I'm using it now, and almost satisfied. Thank You, guys!



Regards,
AG



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Re: Send-Reply: how to organize thread ?

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Vishal,

08.10.2003, U wrote:
> Hi Roelof

> Wednesday, October 8, 2003, 4:41:35 AM, you wrote:

RO>> Create filters that move both received and sent messages to the same
RO>> folder for that contact.

> This doesn't work if you'd like the threading capability for every person you
> correspond with. Creating that many folders is out of the question for most
> people. What I'd like is to see TB do this the way Pocomail does - changing from
> threaded to unthreaded view on the fly in the way Alexander described. TB can do
> this only with mailing lists.

You are completely right! It's not possibly to create folder for each
unpredictable person. So the some solution is placement sent and
replied messages in one folder... It's not cool, because of a can't
look at talk with CERTAIN person an least :(


Regards,
AG



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Send-Reply: how to organize thread ?

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans!

It's common and well known situation, when we have multiplies messages
from one author in Inbox folder and Your answers in Sent folder

BUT how to organize thread-like view of that discussion ?

ANY advices would be appreciable!


Your sincerely registered,
Sasha.



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Re: PGP encrypting off after saving in Draft

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

17.09.2003, U wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1

> On Tuesday, September 16, 2003, Alexander A. Gomanyuk wrote...

>> I'v encountered, that if I write message with PGP "Encrypt when
>> completed" option ON and save it into Draft then after opening it again for
>> further editing "Encrypt when completed" option is OFF already

> This is a many times requested thing.  It happens with "sign on
> complete" as well.  It appears they don't store any of the encryption
> options when it comes to drafts.  Wish they'd "fix" that.

Dear fellow! I DON'T NEED messages to be ENCRYPTED (SIGNED) when
placing into Draft !

I NEED, that TB2 DON'T FORGET state of Options "Encrypt when
completed" ("Sign when completed")

So after opening message from draft and sending it message to be
Encrypted at all !


Regards,
AG



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PGP encrypting off after saving in Draft

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans!

I'v encountered, that if I write message with PGP "Encrypt when
completed" option ON and save it into Draft then after opening it again for
further editing "Encrypt when completed" option is OFF already

Is it possibly to be ensure that if messages is intending to be
encrypted (Encrypt when coplete ON) then even after saving into draft it
will be done without additional setting any options manually ?

Your sincerely registered,
Sasha.



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Re: Hiding standart folders (while using MyGate NEWS gate)

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

16.09.2003, U wrote:
> Hello Alexander,

>> Is it possibly to hide Inbox, Outbox, Trash, Inbox_Known, Sent Mail ?

> I don't think you can.


I gues U are right :(
So after creatin additional "NEWS" acoounts i've created in my main
account. special folder for each subscribed conference and filters and
feel myself much happier :

Regards,
AG



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Hiding standart folders (while using MyGate NEWS gate)

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans!

Is it possibly to hide Inbox, Outbox, Trash, Inbox_Known, Sent Mail ?

I'm using NEWS gate for The Bat, so I've created several accounts
for that Gate and standart folder seems to be useless and annoying

Your sincerely registered,
Sasha.



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Moving filters between accounts

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans!

I've encountered with problem.
I have MULTIPLIES filter on one account and i'd like to move
corresponding Folder and its filters to another account.

I have no any problems with Folders, but Filters.

Any suggestions would be appreciable!

Your sincerely registered,
Sasha.



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Re: Encrypting to default key

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Peter,

04.09.2003, U wrote:
> on Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:09:17 +0600GMT (04.09.03, 14:09 +0200GMT here),
> you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

AAG>> Thank U for You valuable comments!
AAG>> Marck, would U help me understand also, WHY when sending PGP encrypted
AAG>> messages TB2 encrypt it not only by public key of recipient but also
AAG>> by my default key ? I've cleared that option in PGP and can't
AAG>> understand how i can turn off it...

> It is for your own benefit. So you can read the sent mail yourself
> later. If it is only encrypted to the recipient's key, you won't be able
> to decrypt it.

Yes sure ! But i don't need that!

> If you really want to turn it off, you can do it in OpenPGP Preferences,
> General tab.

Yes, it rurned OFF ! So, i suspect, that there are any options
somewhere else...




Regards,
AG



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Encrypting to default key

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Marck,

04.09.2003, U wrote:

> ... 

AAG>> How i can make, that PGP/MIME to be off by default without
AAG>> macros?

> It's not possible. You should put %nopgpmime in your default
> templates. I don't find this a problem since I drive all of my TB
> output through templates. It's a bit of a job to go through and make
> sure the right templates have the right new pgp options, but it's
> worth it.

Thank U for You valuable comments!
Marck, would U help me understand also, WHY when sending PGP encrypted
messages TB2 encrypt it not only by public key of recipient but also
by my default key ? I've cleared that option in PGP and can't
understand how i can turn off it...



Regards,
AG



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Re: Mod: Top posting (was: The Bat 2: PGP and atached file)

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

04.09.2003, U wrote:
> Hi Alexander,

> @4-Sep-2003, 12:42 +0600 (07:42 UK time) Alexander A. Gomanyuk [AAG]
> in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Alexander:

AAG>> more details... everything works fine ONLY between TB2 and TB2
AAG>> but makes BUG if sending on TB1 or OE

[skiped]

> ... and the answer is - it's not a bug. It's the inability of v1 and
> OE to comprehend PGP/MIME. v2 has *optional* PGP/MIME that kicks in
> when there are 8 bit characters in the message body, lines ending
> with space characters or attachments. PGP/MIME can be turned off in
> the menu and by using the %nopgpmime macro in templates.

Thank U very much, Marck! i DO appreciate You!
And please forgive me for breaking list's rules.
And would U clarify, how i can disable PGP/MIME for ALL messages
withou using macros ?
I mean that every message have menu with PGP/MIME in Auto.
How i can make, that PGP/MIME to be off by default without macros?



Regards,
AG



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Re: The Bat 2: PGP and atached file

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

more details... everything works fine ONLY between TB2 and TB2
but makes BUG if sending on TB1 or OE


04.09.2003, U wrote:
> Hello Batmans!

> Would U check sending message with attached file and CHECKED option
> Privacy-Encrypt when completed ?!

> It looks very buggy and it seems The Bat includes file itself in
> message body :

> May be i'm wrong
  

> Regards,
> AG


> 
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Regards,
AG



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The Bat 2: PGP and atached file

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans!

Would U check sending message with attached file and CHECKED option
Privacy-Encrypt when completed ?!

It looks very buggy and it seems The Bat includes file itself in
message body :

May be i'm wrong
  

Regards,
AG



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Re: Tha Bat 2: Spam filter where is it ?

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Jernej,


03.09.2003, U wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 18:06:20, DG Raftery Sr. wrote:

>> Sorry moderators. I hate those that subscribe to lists yet have not a
>> clue about the contents.

> I think he meant the subject of his post - "Tha Bat 2: Spam filter where is it ?"


Wow !!! 8-0 You knew that You knew that !!! :)



Regards,
AG



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Re: The Bat 2 PGP: some problems with PGPsdkNL.dll

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

03.09.2003, U wrote:
> Alexander A. Gomanyuk, [AAG] wrote:

AAG>> Moreover Encrypt when Completed doesn't work inspite of presence
AAG>> public Key of recipients.

> Have you confirmed that the recipient really hasn't received an
> encrypted message.

> If TB! can tell which key to use based on the name and e-mail address in
> the headers, it will encrypt on sending without any sort of prompt.

That keys DOES exists, and moreover it's old keys, not just created.
But when i check Encrypt when Completed and try to send message
NOTHING happen ! Message's window remain unchanged...



Regards,
AG



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Tha Bat 2: Spam filter where is it ?

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello, Batmans.

Please forgive me for my stupidity, but would U explain subject ?

  

Regards,
AG



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The Bat 2 PGP: some problems with PGPsdkNL.dll

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello, Batmans!

I've just installed 2.0 over registered 1.62
I also have PGP 7.04 installed

I'v got while choosing PGP version message (look 
http://www.dlv.rt.ru/splinty/TB2_PGP.JPG)
and that's all.

Would U advice, how i can correct that problem ?

Moreover Encrypt when Completed doesn't work inspite of presence
public Key of recipients.
But decrypting work nice

Regards,
AG



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The Bat 2 PGP: some problems with PGPsdkNL.dll

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello, Batmans!

I've just installed 2.0 over registered 1.62
I also have PGP 7.04 installed

I'v got while choosing PGP version message (look attache) and that's
all.

Would U advice, how i can correct that problem ?

Moreover Encrypt when Completed doesn't work inspite of presence
public Key of recipients.

Regards,
AG
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Re: Mail ticker changing properties

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

THANK U very much, Robin!!!

Yes it works... but black mail ticker made transparent looks not so
cool :


04.08.2003, U wrote:
> On Mon 4 August 2003, 8:54:47 +1000, Robin Anson wrote:
>> On Fri 1 August 2003, 18:50:38 +1000, daniel hahler wrote:
AAG trans2k DON'T see mail ticker as RUNNING application.
>>>
>>> Same applies to PowerMenu.. there is no window (aka system) menu for
>>> the MailTicker and ''PowerMenu -transparency "MailTicker" 70'' does
>>> not work for the same reason..
>>>
AAG I guess, that any thirdparty require some Application with standart
AAG window. :((
>>
>> There is a program call Froost that will see it. That might help you.
>> I don't have the URL to hand, so you'll have to search for it.

> Further to my last comment, I have done some further web searching and
> experimentation and discovered a few 3rd party apps that make windows
> transparent:
>* Actual Transparent Windows ($19.95) -
>  http://www.actualtools.com/transparentwindows/
>* Froost (freeware) -
>  http://www.ishiboo.com/~nirva/Projects/froost/
>* Glass2K (beta v 0.9.2) (freeware) -
>  http://www.chime.tv/products/glass2k.shtml
>* Powermenu (freeware) -
>  http://www.veridicus.com/tummy/programming/powermenu/
>* Trans2K ($2.95) - http://www.545studios.com/products.php?id=11
>* Transparent Windows ($19.95) - http://www.nccsoft.net/
>* Transperizer v0.5 (freeware) -
>  ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/winsite/win95/miscutil/transperizer.exe

> Of these, I could make Actual Transparent Windows, Froost, Transparent
> Windows and Transperizer recognise the Message Ticker. ATW, Froost and
> Transperizer allow you to set different levels of transparency for
> different windows. The Transparent Windows appears just to have a
> single global level of transparency that is either on or off for
> individual windows.

> If you are prepared to pay $19.95, ATW appears to be the most stable
> and functional application, and pretty reasonable value for money. Of
> the freeware applications, Transperizer appears more stable, although
> both are a bit clumsy to use.

> Note that I could find both v0.4.4 and v0.5 of Transperizer on the
> net. The homepage for it (http://win2k.davet.net) does not appear to
> be available.

> Robin

> --
> Robin Anson
> Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600
> Service Pack 1


> 
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Regards,
AG



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Re: Mail ticker changing properties

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

By the way, Robin

I've encountered, that Froost don't remeber any settings after reboot
and Transperizer DONT see mail ticker window (TMessageTicker class)

Would U point out what windows should be tranparent in Transperizer
mail ticker to be transparent ?


04.08.2003, U wrote:
> On Mon 4 August 2003, 8:54:47 +1000, Robin Anson wrote:
>> On Fri 1 August 2003, 18:50:38 +1000, daniel hahler wrote:
AAG trans2k DON'T see mail ticker as RUNNING application.
>>>
>>> Same applies to PowerMenu.. there is no window (aka system) menu for
>>> the MailTicker and ''PowerMenu -transparency "MailTicker" 70'' does
>>> not work for the same reason..
>>>
AAG I guess, that any thirdparty require some Application with standart
AAG window. :((
>>
>> There is a program call Froost that will see it. That might help you.
>> I don't have the URL to hand, so you'll have to search for it.

> Further to my last comment, I have done some further web searching and
> experimentation and discovered a few 3rd party apps that make windows
> transparent:
>* Actual Transparent Windows ($19.95) -
>  http://www.actualtools.com/transparentwindows/
>* Froost (freeware) -
>  http://www.ishiboo.com/~nirva/Projects/froost/
>* Glass2K (beta v 0.9.2) (freeware) -
>  http://www.chime.tv/products/glass2k.shtml
>* Powermenu (freeware) -
>  http://www.veridicus.com/tummy/programming/powermenu/
>* Trans2K ($2.95) - http://www.545studios.com/products.php?id=11
>* Transparent Windows ($19.95) - http://www.nccsoft.net/
>* Transperizer v0.5 (freeware) -
>  ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/winsite/win95/miscutil/transperizer.exe

> Of these, I could make Actual Transparent Windows, Froost, Transparent
> Windows and Transperizer recognise the Message Ticker. ATW, Froost and
> Transperizer allow you to set different levels of transparency for
> different windows. The Transparent Windows appears just to have a
> single global level of transparency that is either on or off for
> individual windows.

> If you are prepared to pay $19.95, ATW appears to be the most stable
> and functional application, and pretty reasonable value for money. Of
> the freeware applications, Transperizer appears more stable, although
> both are a bit clumsy to use.

> Note that I could find both v0.4.4 and v0.5 of Transperizer on the
> net. The homepage for it (http://win2k.davet.net) does not appear to
> be available.

> Robin

> --
> Robin Anson
> Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600
> Service Pack 1


> 
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AG



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Re: Mail ticker changing properties

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

30.07.2003, U wrote:
>> BUT does anybody know HOW to change colors (font and background),

> Don't know about those ...

>> or make it transparent ?

> This was discussed before. The best suggestion was to use
> small third party apps that can make any window transparent.

> There are tonnes of them -- have a look around for "power
> menu" or trans2k.

trans2k DON'T see mail ticker as RUNNING application.
I guess, that any thirdparty require some Application with standart
window. :((




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AG



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Re: setting account password prevent download??

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Oop! Little bug :)))

Sorry !!!


01.08.2003, U wrote:
> Hey guys ! It's my thread  ! :
> Answer MY question !

> 30.07.2003, U wrote:
>> Hi tracer,

>> On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 07:13:30 +0700 tracer wrote:

>>> I really would apreciate stuff to be collected with or without
>>> password so I can ask the secretary later to download to lot without
>>> being able to read them all..

>> I guess you're talinkg about a "account accessing password" and not the
>> POP3 password, aren't you?

>> If so: "Account" / "Properties" / "Options" / "Allow send/fetch without
>> entering the access password (if any)" should be what you're looking
>> for.  And IIRC this has been there already before current Beta.



> Regards,
> AG


> 
> Current version is 1.62r | "Using TBUDL" information:
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Regards,
AG



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Re: setting account password prevent download??

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hey guys ! It's my thread  ! :
Answer MY question !

30.07.2003, U wrote:
> Hi tracer,

> On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 07:13:30 +0700 tracer wrote:

>> I really would apreciate stuff to be collected with or without
>> password so I can ask the secretary later to download to lot without
>> being able to read them all..

> I guess you're talinkg about a "account accessing password" and not the
> POP3 password, aren't you?

> If so: "Account" / "Properties" / "Options" / "Allow send/fetch without
> entering the access password (if any)" should be what you're looking
> for.  And IIRC this has been there already before current Beta.



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AG



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Mail ticker changing properties

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello, Batmans!

Yes! I found Mail ticker is very useful feature.
BUT does anybody know HOW to change colors (font and background),
or make it transparent ?
Good idea and poor realization :((
  

Regards,
AG



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Re: Checking attachments by Antivirus: HOW ?

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Marck,


25.02.2003, U wrote:

Thank You for ideas ! I'm about AVP Kaspersky.


> ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/SophosNT.BAV
> ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/Sophos95.BAV
> ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/Panda.BAV
> ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/Nod32.BAV
> ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/BitDefSt.BAV
> ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/AntiVirNT.BAV
> ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/AntiVir95.BAV

It's just test versions (and tooo old), so are not actual :(((
And *.bav for Kaspersky AVP doesn't work.

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AG



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Checking attachments by Antivirus: HOW ?

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello, batmans !

Would You consult me, where and what I should set up in filter, that
The Bat runs Antivirus program to check every attachment in received mail?


Regards,
AG



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Re: Adding recepient into special Group on Address book

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Peter,

Cool ! Thank You !!!

14.02.2003, U wrote:
> Hello Alexander,

> On Friday, February 14, 2003 at 7:20:59 AM you [AAG]wrote (at least in
> part):

AAG>> Would You advice, is it possibly to set ONE hot key, that will add
AAG>> current message's (in message pane) recipient's address in certain
AAG>> group of Address Book ?

> Set up a filter (e.g. in section "Read Messages") with an "action" that
> does exactly what you want. Set the filter to "Manual only" and
> assign a hotkey to it at "Options" tab. You should be almost done.



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AG



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Adding recepient into special Group on Address book

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello, Batmans

Would You advice, is it possibly to set ONE hot key, that will add
current message's (in message pane) recipient's address in certain
group of Address Book ?

Yes, I know Ctrl-W,  BUT after pressing that I need to select Group
field, than select (or type it) and press Enter. For my task it's too
long action :)

Any advices would be very appreciable.

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AG



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?: How i can filter messages by two condition...

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello, Batmans !!!

Here You are stupid question :)))

I need to move messages received from [EMAIL PROTECTED] AND contaning in
Text 'BLAbla' string into certain folder !

WHERE and WHAT i should write in Filter ?! I'm crazy about reading
idiotical The Bat helps already !

Sorry!

  

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AG



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?: Backup doesn't work correctly

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans :)

Just look at this http://splinty.pochtamt.ru/The_Bat_1.JPG.
What is the problem ?!! Yes, I've deleted indices
and The Bat recreated it. But anyway backup doesn't work with two
folders !

Several dayz ago The Bat killed all my settings of every folders and I've decided to
make backups after that... :) But I encountered with problems again
You know, i guess, that somebody from The Bat team hates especially me 8-0

Regards,
AG



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Re: ?: LOST Folders !!!

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Thomas,


10.12.2002, U wrote:
>> O really ?!!! Cool !!! It's 3 bytes size ! Wow !  8-0

> There is your problem. Unfortunately, we don't know what corrupted or
> deleted this file on your system, but it certainly wasn't TB. I won't

no, not mine ! One my friend checked his ACCOUNT.FLX, and, inspi of he
have no any proble it was 3 bytes also 8-0

Anyway my problem has no silution accept Ctrl-Shift-Alt-L and Backup
also

> insult you by asking you to check for malware or by asking whether you
> had "properly shut down Windows" the night before; you'd know that.

> The beauty of having backups is shown once again. ;-)

Oh yes :)))

> PS: I believe something is wrong with your system. Also your keyboard
> seems to repeat characters, mainly the exclamation mark.

The matte is that it's MS NAtural Keyboard... I'll check it :))




Regards,
AG



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Re: ?: LOST Folders !!!

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

09.12.2002, U wrote:
> [...]
>>> Could you also let us know which Windows version you are using?

AAG>> XP eng + SP1

> Hmmm. Which file system?

NTFS (8k cluster)




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AG



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Re: ?: LOST Folders !!!

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Marek,


09.12.2002, U wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

>> >> Try the shortcut Shift+Ctrl+Alt+L .
>> 
>> > Of course now i should restore properties of each found folder ...
>> 
>> I was just looking around, and you are raising an interesting
>>  
>> question: in which file are the folder properties stored? I don't
>> know, I could only find the account properties.

> folders and their properties are stored in ACCOUNT.FLX file.

O really ?!!! Cool !!! It's 3 bytes size ! Wow !  8-0




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AG



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Re: ?: LOST Folders !!!

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Thomas,

09.12.2002, U wrote:

AAG I'm in troubles now ! I've lost all folders of The Bat (but
AAG directories and bases are OK)

> Do you remember how this happened?

Yes, it was Monday, December 9, 9:30 AM, I've turned on PC and got "No Folders"
That's all. Nothing was changed before... accept

> I was just looking around, and you are raising an interesting
> question: in which file are the folder properties stored? I don't
> know, I could only find the account properties.

> Could you also let us know which Windows version you are using?

XP eng + SP1




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AG



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Re: ?: LOST Folders !!!

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Yes, thank You Ali !

Of course now i should restore properties of each found folder ...
:(((


09.12.2002, U wrote:
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Alexander A. Gomanyuk [AAG] wrote:'

AAG>> I'm in troubles now ! I've lost all folders of The Bat (but
AAG>> directories and bases are OK) Would You advice, is is possibly
AAG>> to restore that files with my configuration ?!!!

> Try the shortcut Shift+Ctrl+Alt+L .




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AG



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?: LOST Folders !!!

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello, Guys !

I'm in troubles now ! I've lost all folders of The Bat (but
directories and bases are OK)
Would You advice, is is possibly to restore that files with my
configuration ?!!! Yes, i can add my over 50 folders again... Yes. i
can to reactivate millions of filter, yes, can try to remember the
multiplies different replies for each folder AND YES !!! I can shoot
every guy from The Bat ! TEAM !!!
  

Regards,
AG



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Re[4]: ? Current situation with PGP 7.x plug-in

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Carren and Batmans,

On Tuesday, October 15, 2002 Carren wrote:

> On Tuesday, 15 October 2002 at 5:34 p.m. Alexander wrote: 

AAG>> Well, thank You for You Ali and other guys for taking time to
AAG>> write answers. Yes, I guess everybody knows about PGPtray hotkeys
AAG>> BUT it CAN"T be compared with suitability of plug-in work.
AAG>> Especially when reading PGPed mail 20-30 messages per day.

> Sorry, but I have to disagree. I use PGP 6.5.8ckt version, and tried
> the plugin for some time. In the end I went back to the using the tray
> as it was just as quick and was what I was used to. The difference in
> time it takes to carry out any operation using either the plugin or
> the tray/hotkeys is negligible in my opinion.

Well, it's Your opinion. OK, would You advice, can Your PGPtray
approach be adjusted so that while Encrypting messages PGP
automatically takes the public key of recipients ? Would You ?

Or i must every time look at window with PGP keys and select ones ?


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Re[2]: ? Current situation with PGP 7.x plug-in

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Allie and Batmans,

On Tuesday, October 15, 2002 Allie wrote:

> You can configure the PGP hotkeys to carry out the clipboard options
> for you. Going to the menu's every time is tedious. However, hitting
> the hotkeys aren't.

Well, thank You for You Ali and other guys for taking time to write
answers. Yes, I guess everybody knows about PGPtray hotkeys BUT it CAN"T
be compared with suitability of plug-in work. Especially when reading PGPed mail 20-30
messages per day.



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? Current situation with PGP 7.x plug-in

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans,

  Does anybody clear knows concerning subject ? Will The Bat! team
  plan to do with working PGP 7.0 plug-in ?

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Re[2]: Spell checker: hoe to activate international one

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Thomas and Batmans,

On Friday, October 11, 2002 Thomas wrote:

AAG>> while copying just HKLM-Software-RIT

> This one is obsolete. You can delete it.

AAG>> and HKCU-Software-RIT to new OS...

> This is the only one you need to copy.

clear... but what's about my question ?



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Re[2]: Spell checker: hoe to activate international one

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Gerard and Batmans,

On Friday, October 11, 2002 Gerard wrote:

AAG>>   I've just moved The Bat under other copy of OS (from win2k to
AAG>>   WinXP). Well... It's not first time for me, but may be i'v missed
AAG>>   something, while copying just HKLM-Software-RIT and
AAG>>   HKCU-Software-RIT to new OS... Anyway i can't see additional native
AAG>>   Language in Spell Checker-Language Menu (while replying for example)

AAG>>   Any ideas would be appreciable, guys.

> Hi Alexander,
>You need to install the International Pack.

done... hothing changed :(((



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Spell checker: hoe to activate international one

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans,

  I've just moved The Bat under other copy of OS (from win2k to
  WinXP). Well... It's not first time for me, but may be i'v missed
  something, while copying just HKLM-Software-RIT and
  HKCU-Software-RIT to new OS... Anyway i can't see additional native
  Language in Spell Checker-Language Menu (while replying for example)

  Any ideas would be appreciable, guys.

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Re[2]: Inbox: The Bat! won't read messages.tbb

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Roelof and Batmans,

On Thursday, October 10, 2002 Roelof wrote:

> Might be because you ran a filter that deleted all messages in the
> inbox or deleted them yourself by accident. Parked messages are
> ignored when you or your filters start deleting.

Yes, may be But i don't remember anything like this 8-0

AAG>> But messages.tbb do contains much MORE messages...

> Deleted messages stay in the messages.tbb until you compress it,
> they're only marked deleted in the messages.tbi. So let's hope that
> you don't compress your inbox on exit, because that would mean you'd
> lose them as soon as you exit TB. (Under normal circumstances it's a
> very sensible option to have activated, since your messagebase gets
> real big when you never compress.)
> You could try to undelete them. There are two ways to handle this.

done. 3 messages got more.

> Well actually I've got two more pieces of advice and since your asking
> for it. ;-)
> I read your replies to the messages of Alexander and Miguel and
> because of those I decided to reply to your original message and not
> to your reply to one of them. Your habit of top posting (or bottom

[skipped, sorry]

> Please don't take this advice as a personal attack, but accept it as a
> well meant advice that could be profitable to you and your
> correspondents.

Dear Roelof, thank You for Your coolest reply! I do agree with You,
that reply must be readable, and FIDO do make a culture of
e-mail communications, that was lost in Inet :((

AAG>> 3AHO3A
> What's that, a radio call sign?

The matter is that it's not only English alphabet, it's also Russian
alphabet, so somebody, who knows Russian may read Russian word
"splinter" :)) Just a nick, no more :)

AAG>> 2:5012/18.2

> Oh, a point under Dmitry Vodennikov?

Yes, so what ? :))) You may write to me :)))

> What I said about quoting styles was learned on fidonet during the
> days modems were a lot slower than nowadays.

Oh yes, i remember that time... bla-bla-bla ... And Of course You know that cool song
of Michael Jackson about FIDO time, isn't it ? :)



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Re[2]: Inbox: The Bat! won't read messages.tbb

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Alexander and Batmans,

Oh yes, it's obvious solution :))) but it didn't help :(((

But the situation is that messages.tbb file DOES contain LOOT OF messages that
The Bat! doesn't display in Inbox :

> Hello Alexander,

> Saturday, October 5, 2002, 12:41:39 PM, you wrote:

AAG>>   Something bad happned, so that The Bat dont' want to show messages
AAG>>   (except parked) in Inbox folder

> Go to View, Display, and select "All messages".  If this isn't the
> problem, then I don't know what could be wrong.





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Re[2]: Inbox: The Bat! won't read messages.tbb

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Miguel and Batmans,


NO :(((

> Hello Alexander,

>>   Something bad happned, so that The Bat dont' want to show messages
>>   (except parked) in Inbox folder But messages.tbb do contains
>>   much MORE messages...
>>
>>   Any advices would be very appreciable !!!

> Go to main TB menu and select View/Display/All messages. Does it help?



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Inbox: The Bat! won't read messages.tbb

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans,

  Something bad happned, so that The Bat dont' want to show messages
  (except parked) in Inbox folder But messages.tbb do contains
  much MORE messages...

  Any advices would be very appreciable !!!

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Can't change Message Pane Header Font

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans,

I'd like to change the font of messages list in folders or as i
understand Message Pane Header font.

But it seems  menu Options-Preferences-System-Fonts to be useless and
doesn't work.  Yes it changes Folder Pane Font, but not Message Pane !


Buggy?
  

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Hello Batmans,

  What is SmartBAT ?

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Mail Ticker background Color

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans,

Is it possibly to change subj ?
  

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Re[2]: Dead animal

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Alastair and Batmans,


> Conversely, I don't think people get excited about Microsoft bringing
> out, or not bringing out, a new version of Internet Explorer or
> Outlook Express. Especially as these are running into diminishing
> returns; The Bat! is the same. After all, it's only an email package,
> albeit a very powerful one.

Yes, You are right, of course, but it's little sorry, that (for
example) conservations about 2.0 one years (!) ago gone down and 2.0 itself too


> (In fact, given Microsoft's enormous resources, one could wonder why
> it takes 18 months to 2 years to get the next version of Office out.
> On second thoughts, shhh ... I might give them ideas ;)
I do wonder HOW they released even that that they did

:))

> Alastair




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Dead animal

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans,

About half years I've visited last time that place.
Nothing happens, nothing changes, the same build, the same
questions... It seems animal to be dead and smell
  

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Re[2]: Check log for details

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Thomas and Batmans,

Thank You for answer, Thomas. Here You are my log

+27.06.2001, 12:53:41: FETCH - authenticated (plain)
*27.06.2001, 12:53:42: FETCH - 0 messages in the mailbox, 0 new
+27.06.2001, 12:53:42: FETCH - connection finished - 0 messages received
*27.06.2001, 12:53:51: FETCH - receiving mail messages
*27.06.2001, 12:53:51: SEND  - sending mail messages - 1 messages in queue
+27.06.2001, 12:53:51: FETCH - connected to POP3 server
+27.06.2001, 12:53:52: FETCH - authenticated (plain)
*27.06.2001, 12:53:52: FETCH - 0 messages in the mailbox, 0 new
+27.06.2001, 12:53:52: FETCH - connection finished - 0 messages received
!27.06.2001, 12:53:52: SEND  - Could not connect to the server
+27.06.2001, 12:53:52: SEND  - connection finished - 0 of 1 messages sent
?27.06.2001, 12:53:52: SEND  - Some messages were not sent - check the log for details

I've thought, that there is some detailed log with IP-session details?
with protocol specials etc.
"Could not connect to the server" is too short info.



> Hi Alexander,

> On 27 Jun 2001 14:34:12 +0500GMT (27/06/2001, 17:34 +0800GMT),
> Alexander A. Gomanyuk wrote:

AAG>> Well... Good joke :))

> Not a joke. The answer is in exactly that log, a few lines up from
> that error messages. You can post the relevant part of your log here,
> and we'll analyse it for you, if you want.

AAG>> The matter is that the message "Some messages were not sent- check log
AAG>> for details"exactly from THAT log
AAG>> And my question is: DOES exist another LOG, which references THAT log.

> No, this is *the* log. Make sure that "[ ] Higlights only" is *not*
> ticked.



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Re[2]: Check log for details

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello David and Batmans,

Well... Good joke :))
The matter is that the message "Some messages were not sent- check log
for details"exactly from THAT log
And my question is: DOES exist another LOG, which references THAT log.

> net
> List-Hosted-by: Duta Integrasi Pratama - Indonesia

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1

> Hello Alexander

> On 27 June 2001 at 12:59:03 +0500 (which was 08:59 where I live) Alexander
> A. Gomanyuk graced us with these comments

>> I've got in log panel the message "Some messages were not sent- check
>> log for details"

>> Well... And where is it ?

> How about menu | Account | View Log

> or

> Shift + Ctrl + A

> HTH

> - --


>  Best regards, ___
>   David   |MUA- The 1, The Only, The Bat! | E-mailaholics |
>  _|  Win 2K Adv Ser 5.0.2195 SP2  | International |
> | Oxymoron: intelligent presidential debate   |

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
> Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt (Build 06)
> Comment: PGP Signed, sealed, delivered.

> iQA/AwUBOzmI6vmK8eZlD0U0EQJGVACffhT02UWAsK8w6/VFVY4hfAid4fMAoIVG
> YwaYHXp6l/1YZ3vz6G85CBWt
> =+VLz
> -END PGP SIGNATURE-



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Check log for details

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans,

  I've got in log panel the message
  "Some messages were not sent- check log for details"

  Well... And where is it ?

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Stupid, very stupid question...

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans,

 Intrigued ?

 Well...

 I just want to ask: is there any information about The Bat! 2.0 ?
 We are talking about it over two years...

 Stupid hopes, right ? 8-|

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Re[2]: PGP 7.0.3

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Hello Dierk and Batmans,


>> I'm sure, that the PGP plug-in is the stupidest part of The Bat !
>> And developers know that, but doesn't change anything...

> There are plugins that work - up to 6.5.8. And they are not a joke.

Mon ami, I'm using 6.5.8 so what ? It doesn't change my opinion !
And You don't know of course, about multiply unsuitable things and bugs in
realization of especially Russian part of PGP plug-in. Moreover Stefan
and Co know about that situation long time enough (more than year).
That's why I used the only exact word, that may be applied to
"charmed" PGP plug-in: STUPIDEST.





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Re[3]: PGP 7.0.3

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Ryan and Batmans,


>   All you have to do is to click on the PGP taskbar icon and say
>   encrypt/sign current window.  Works like a charm.

Yeah.. very good joke !

Especially we are feeling that charm, while trying to reply on PGP
message, several PGP messages: pop up menu, passfrase, copy to
clipboard, replying on PGP message, inserting from clipboard decrypted
messages without quoting...
Perfect ! Great ! Charm !

I'm sure, that the PGP plug-in is the stupidest part of The Bat !
And developers know that, but doesn't change anything...



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Re: backup mail and RAR it

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello solid and Batmans,

Well... Good question... So make static solid RAR archive from Your The Bat
directories and be happy...

Or may be You need not solid RAR archive but message base ?


> Dear Bat-Man,
> on Jumat, 15:19

>  I want to backup all my mail now, until thebat will fresh..with no
>  mail each account.
>  but I just want backup some folder.., not inbox.

>  How I can do it easily ?
>  Can I just delete all file in that folder, and new file will be
>  created ?

>  After It, I will RAR it so it will have small size...
>  great isn't ?

>  If there any better idea tell me,

>  My Test, I have compress TB folder, size about 4.9 Mega. But TB
>  compress it to "0 bytes saved"

>  I compress it my self with WinRAR, and I got size of MESSAGE.TBB
>  about 475 kilobytes.
>  so It's will save by HD.size that small,
 


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Auto-detect character set

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans,

  Does anybody have ideas how to make Auto-detect character set to
  work each time i'm reading new message ?

  Thanks in advance.

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WHEN normal PGP Plug-in will come ?

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans,

  May be some good man will clarify the situation with PGP plug-in ?
  When we should wait new PGPG plug-in with automatic encrypting
  attached files and without bug, crashing international code set ?

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Stupidity list of PGP plug-in

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans,

  I'd like to prefer the stupidity list for one small, separate and
  important part of The Bat ! (may be somebody from RIT will take it into account,
  while writing new plug-in)

  Just answer adding new fact about subject.


  1. Doesn't support encrypting file attaches
  
  2. It's not easy to place the decrypted attached file in certain folder
  
  3. Crushes the international character set info (russian exactly,
 don't know anything about other ones)
 

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Re[2]: Virus checking turning OFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Patrick and Batmans,



AAG>>   I can't endure it anymore ! Please tell me where i can turn off
AAG>>   question box concerning viruses in attaches ?!

AAG>> Regards, Your sincerely registered
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>^^^
>is this still FIDO? god bless you! ;)

> ...i remember the time... (la la la la la) ;)

U Do ? Oh great !  It still working :) I don't no what for :)))





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Re[2]: Virus checking turning OFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Thomas and Batmans,

THANK UU, my savior !

> Hi Alexander,

> On 8 Jun 2000 14:33:08 +0500GMT (08/06/2000, 17:33 +0800GMT),
> Alexander A. Gomanyuk wrote:

AAG>>   I can't endure it anymore ! Please tell me where i can turn off
AAG>>   question box concerning viruses in attaches ?!

> In the registry, look for Current_User/Software/Ritlabs/TheBat, and
> look at ProtectAllowOpen, ProtectWarnOpen, and ProtectDisableOpen.

> I have killed these warnings here too - I do look at the file
> extension before I click onto anything, and I get many Word and Excel
> files every day. I KNOW a .doc file can contain a virus, and I DON'T
> run anything called Happy99.exe. Besides, it would be easy to just
> rename the virus.



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Virus checking turning OFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans,

  I can't endure it anymore ! Please tell me where i can turn off
  question box concerning viruses in attaches ?!

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Re[2]: auto-risposta

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Thomas and Batmans,

Cool ! Lets everybody set auto-response on every The Bat ! list's
message ! Perfect !

> Hi Beppe,

> On Tue, 30 May 2000 12:33:26 +0200GMT (30/05/2000, 18:33 +0800GMT),
> Beppe Galliano wrote:

BG>> "Hello, I received your message and wanted to let you know that I am on
BG>> vacation now, planning to return on April 23.

> Which year?

BG>> I will respond to your message when I return."



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When 2.0 will come ?

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans,

  Here U are my original question: subj and how much we will pay for
  upgrade (i mean money but not crushed address books and message bases :)
  )

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Re[4]: PGP 6.5.3 and importing keys

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Oliver and Batmans,


>> Yes, PGP plug-in is very weak place of The Bat. May be 2.0 will make
>> us happy in hat sense :)

> I wouldn't say it's a weak point... I've developed an app with the PGP
> SDK   myself,   and   I   must   say   that's  a  candidate  for  the
> worst-api-available-competition.  So  I'm  hesitant to say it's a weak

my congratulations :)

> point.  Maybe  they  should  think  about dropping support for so many
> different  versions. AFAIK, everyone can get an up-to-date PGP version
> on  the  net  for  nothing, so there aren't many reasons why one would
> stay with an old version for long. Just IMHO, of course.

Well... Point... Or something else it doesn't change anything. Guys
from RIT SHOULD think about supporting PGP more smart and carefully.

U are completely right. Supporting different old versions PGP has no
sense. But i guess Stefan don't think so...

> Oliver Sturm



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Re[2]: PGP 6.5.3 and importing keys

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Oliver and Batmans,


>> I'm having trouble importing keys that are pasted into messages.

>> When I select Specials | Import key, nothing happens. In fact, what I have
>> to do is select Specials | Check digital signature. When it checks the
>> signature, it also imports the key at that point. However, if the key is
>> sent without a PGP signature then nothing happens when I try to import the
>> public key and I'm stuck.

>> I'm using version 6.5.3. Anyone else noted this problem?

> Yes,  that's  not  very  new to me. The automatisms in TB for PGP have
> never  really  worked  for  me... I was happy to notice that signature
> checking started working again at all two or three versions ago.

Yes, PGP plug-in is very weak place of The Bat. May be 2.0 will make
us happy in hat sense :)


God DO Exist.

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Re: Disappearing attachments

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello David and Batmans,

Check, is it right just for HTML attachments ?

> Hello, 

>   I have just installed the 1.42 version yesterday, and noticed today
>   that often, when I click on a message showing an attachment, the
>   attachment icon immediately disappears, and there is no attachment
>   visible in the message.  Of course, the attachment is still in the
>   attach folder, but I don't always know the name of the file to
>   expect.  Any ideas of what I can do to fix this?  I'm tempted to
>   switch back to the previous version, which was a lot more stable for
>   me than this!



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Re[2]: Disappearing attachments

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Stefan and Batmans,

The same, BUT it concerns just HTML attachments, so it's a features
not a bug :)

> Dear David, 

DH>>   I have just installed the 1.42 version yesterday, and noticed
DH>>   today that often, when I click on a message showing an
DH>>   attachment, the attachment icon immediately disappears,

> Please download the latest build of 1.42, it is 1.42f from The Bat!
> official home page - http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/

> Generally, we recommend to all users to download 1.42f to be on the
> safe side of things...



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Re: X-mailer: breaking privacy ? (was: Help-Feedback-Bug reports)

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Alexander and Batmans,



> As u know, of course, the license number includes in the body of bug
> reports message automatically.
> And about surprised... Yes, i'm registered user, but i consider some
> information in x- as my privacy. It's well known discussion about
> 'Does RIT break people's privacy by sending some info about
> registration in x-header'.

> So i think they DO.

> MOREVOVER, it doesn't break my license agreement with RIT. I didn't
> promise them to send that information in exchange on tech. support.


   Just look at x-Mailer, idioto.


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Re[2]: Help-Feedback-Bug reports

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Marck and Batmans,


> On 12 May 2000 at 14:57:28 GMT +0500 (which was 10:57 where I
> live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject
> of "Help-Feedback-Bug reports":

>> Sorry for my stupid previous reply, concerning breaking privacy. RIT
>> has changed situation, but now x-mailer is clear.. U may check it :)

> I'd  just  finished my reply pointing this out when I noticed this one
> on the ticker ;-). All's well that ends well.

I just can imagine how U was blaming me :)

All Right !  The Bat is the greatest !



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Re[2]: Help-Feedback-Bug reports

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Marck and Batmans,

Sorry for my stupid previous reply, concerning breaking privacy.
RIT has changed situation,  but now x-mailer is clear.. U may check it :)

>> I didn't get any answer on my messages, even from auto reply...

> The  guys  at RIT have a policy of only replying if a) it is the first
> report  of a particular bug or b) they need more information about it.
> OTOH,  you  have  a  widget  in  place  that is stripping the "mailer"
> x-header  back  and  adding  a  "surprised" keyword. If this widget is
> interfering  with  the  licence number that is added by the bug report
> template  then  they  would ignore the message anyway (they might take
> the  bug report under advisement and fix it, but they wouldn't let the
> "unlicensed" reporter know about it).



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X-mailer: breaking privacy ? (was: Help-Feedback-Bug reports)

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Marck and Batmans,


> There's always sense in sending i bug reports.

>> I didn't get any answer on my messages, even from auto reply...

> The  guys  at RIT have a policy of only replying if a) it is the first
> report  of a particular bug or b) they need more information about it.
> OTOH,  you  have  a  widget  in  place  that is stripping the "mailer"
> x-header  back  and  adding  a  "surprised" keyword. If this widget is
> interfering  with  the  licence number that is added by the bug report
> template  then  they  would ignore the message anyway (they might take
> the  bug report under advisement and fix it, but they wouldn't let the
> "unlicensed" reporter know about it).

As u know, of course, the license number includes in the body of bug
reports message automatically.
And about surprised... Yes, i'm registered user, but i consider some
information in x- as my privacy. It's well known discussion about
'Does RIT break people's privacy by sending some info about
registration in x-header'.

So i think they DO.

MOREVOVER, it doesn't break my license agreement with RIT. I didn't
promise them to send that information in exchange on tech. support.





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Help-Feedback-Bug reports

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans,

  I tere any sense to send report on subject  being registered user ?

  I didn't get any answer on my messages, even from auto reply...

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How to autocolor certain Messages

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans,

  I'm about Group Color features...
  What type of filter i should use to color specific messages (for
  example from Ali in The Bat ! list) ?

  The matter is that the filter, moving The Bat List messages from
  Inbox to The Bat! folder works at first... Well... So should i use
  "Read Messages" filter with Group Color Option after that for The Bat! folder ?

  In my case it doesn't work.

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Say A - Say B

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans,

  I'm wondering, i'm just wondering: have i missed something ?
  Messages List Pane becomes font and colors adjustable, so what's
  about Folder List ? Or may be it will be called as new radical
  improvement in next version of Bat ?

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Re[2]: The Bat! HTML preview Font

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Allie,



> On 3 May 2000 16:36:30 +0500, Alexander A. Gomanyuk wrote:

>>   It would be great to adjust style and size of HTML preview font. Is it
>>   possibly ?

> I'm afraid not. TB! simply displays the HTML as is.

Yes, i knew that, The Bat! very often do what he want to do.
It's very sorry, obvious stupidity of excellent program.



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The Bat 2 PGP wishes

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans,

  I don't believe, that placing my wishes here is effective, but
  i feel after that much easier :)

  Well, why not PGP automatically attached files ? It's so obvious
  incomfortability, but very micro build changes in something tiny and
  useful for very modest part of The Bat! community.

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The Bat! HTML preview Font

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Batmans,

  It would be great to adjust style and size of HTML preview font.
  Is it possibly ?

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Re[2]: Keyboard macros

[Alexander A. Gomanyuk]

Hello Marck,


[skipped, sorry]

>>   I'm interesting, does exist a possibility, to make a keyboard
>>   macros, typing something by pressing one certain key combination ?

>>   [skipped], :-) etc like in GoldEd

> While  there  is  no  one-key macro implementation in TB you can get a
> very  similar effect by using quick templates with short handles. e.g.
> "sk" could be the handle for the [skipped], quick template so, in real
> time, you type sk and your macro works.

> I have quite a lot of Quick Templates like this.

Yeah, thanks, it works fine...



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