Re[2]: Emulating Gmail Threading/Conversation

2006-12-16 Thread Kelvin Quee
Hello Andre,

Thanks Andre! It works exactly like how I want it to.

With the growing popularity of Gmail, maybe this new thread sorting
should be the default way of threading.


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Sunday, December 17, 2006, 7:42:18 AM, you wrote:

 Hello Kelvin,

 Thursday, December 14, 2006, 9:25:25 AM, you wrote:

 Is there a way to retain the ease and functionality of the Sort by
 Reference view but yet still retain the Gmail-way?

 Gmail-way is the manner in which Gmail threads emails (as
 conversations) and use date and time of the last reply to sort the
 threads.

 The thread with the latest reply will rank as the top thread,
 irregardless of the creation date of the thread starter email.

 Have you tried new thread sorting (might be not so new anymore in
 v3) in the properties of your viemode?




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Re[2]: Emulating Gmail Threading/Conversation

2006-12-14 Thread Kelvin Quee
Hello Dan,

It works!

But the presented view is kind of hard to get used to. The relevant
information in the rest of the columns disappeared.

Is there a way to retain the ease and functionality of the Sort by
Reference view but yet still retain the Gmail-way?

Gmail-way is the manner in which Gmail threads emails (as
conversations) and use date and time of the last reply to sort the
threads.

The thread with the latest reply will rank as the top thread,
irregardless of the creation date of the thread starter email.

Thanks!


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Thursday, December 14, 2006, 3:52:43 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Kelvin,

 Wednesday, December 13, 2006, 8:20:58 PM, you wrote:

 snip

 I notice that when new replies come into a thread, The Bat doesn't
 automatically push the entire thread to the top. This is so even when
 I sort messages according to Received time.

 snip

  You can change your default View Mode for all folders or create a
  custom view mode for selected folders with the properties of

  Thread By = Subject

  Sort By = Received

  This should suffice I think :)





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Emulating Gmail Threading/Conversation

2006-12-13 Thread Kelvin Quee
Hello,

I notice that when new replies come into a thread, The Bat doesn't
automatically push the entire thread to the top. This is so even when
I sort messages according to Received time.

This behaviour is typical if you use the gmail webinterface. It is
very useful because not only you can see the threading, your attention
is also brought to threads where *new* replies have been made to it as
the message is pushed up to the top.

When I use the default TB behaviour, I keep missing new replies to old
threads - so much so that I now have a virtual folder that picks out
messages that are less than a day old and displays them in the
unthreaded form.

So what counterintuitive, I would say. Does anyone have a way out of
this?

Thanks.

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Is TheBat!'s TLS Implementation Broken?

2006-12-04 Thread Kelvin Quee

Sorry for the audacious subject, but TheBat! simply refuses to
authenticate with Gmail SMTP while the exact same settings work with
Thunderbird.

I'm using the trial version of TheBat! Professional Version 3.85.03

The error that I keep getting is as follows:

[code] 04/12/2006, 21:27:33: SEND  - sending mail messages - 1 messages in queue
04/12/2006, 21:27:35: SEND  - Initiating TLS handshake

04/12/2006, 21:27:36: SEND  - Certificate S/N:

19A9A68514669F3F846CD5AA0F1965C9, algorithm: RSA (1024 bits), issued
from 21 Aug 2006 to 21 Aug 2007, for 1 host(s): smtp.gmail.com.

04/12/2006, 21:27:36: SEND  - Owner: US, California, Mountain View,

Google Inc, smtp.gmail.com.

04/12/2006, 21:27:36: SEND  - Issuer: ZA, Western Cape, Cape Town,

Thawte Consulting cc, Certification Services Division, Thawte Premium
Server CA, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
04/12/2006, 21:27:36: SEND  - TLS handshake complete
04/12/2006, 21:27:36: SEND  - connected to SMTP server
04/12/2006, 21:27:38: SEND  - WARNING: there were no compatible
authentication mechanisms detected
04/12/2006, 21:27:38: SEND  - sending message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and others
!04/12/2006, 21:27:38: SEND  - Server reports error. The response is:
5.5.1 Authentication Required y45sm14907099pyg
04/12/2006, 21:27:39: SEND  - connection finished - 0 messages sent
04/12/2006, 21:27:39: SEND  - Some messages were not sent - check the
log for details[/code]

My SMTP settings are as follows. My alternative settings are in
brackets. (No surprises here though):

SMTP server: smtp.gmail.com
Connection: TLS (STARTLS), Port: 465 (587)

Perform SMTP authentication (RFC 2554) is *checked*.
Use specific setting is *selected*.

User: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Password: correctpassword

Require secure authentication is *unchecked*.

I've tried every single permutation of the above settings as a search
in this forum (using gmail smtp) has thrown to me.

Can someone kindly point me in the right direction? I've been using
TheBat! since 2000-2004. Unfortunately, the lures of open source
seduced me to Thunderbird.

Now, I'm back since I'm tired by the limited features of Thunderbird,
but being unable to work with Gmail's smtp is fatal.

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Re: Help With Backup

2001-12-02 Thread Kelvin Quee

Hello,

Thank you for your prompt help. I have traced down the problem to a
corrupted backup, blame Winzip. I managed to fix it with PkZip and
used the Tools/Restore facility. Everything worked out fine, and like what
Peter wrote, I don't even need to create new accounts. Hurray!

Now this Backup/Restore facility has strengtened my faith in TB!  :)

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