Re: SSH
On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 12:58:57PM +0100, Peter Palmreuther wrote: But how would you tunnel a POP3 request through SSH? LEM ssh remote_user@remote_host -L 7485:remote_host:110 LEM and enter localhost port 7485 as POP3 server in you mail LEM client. 7485 can be any number, btw. Absolutely correct! And where is the point I need SSH support in TB!? You don't _need_ it. Would be more convenient if TB! included a scaled-down ssh client, point. You don't _need_ SSL support in TB! either. ssltunnel anyone? (how many people do you know being able to POP their mailbox this way [in % of total known e-mailing people]?). Err... At least 80% (all people from the two colleges I'm involved in, the people from a company I manage the IT system, the clients of my ISP with webhosting. That several hundreds of people and I know only a dozen or so outside of these). But then, OK, maybe I'm not the typical user. LEM communication is encrypted between you and sshhost, but not between LEM sshhost and pophost (if they are different). And there my next problem is: a small ISP would have POP Shell (e.g. for WebSpace) maybe located on one machine so this is a secure way. A big one will have at least and minimum two machines for this two very different things (just for security reasons). So my security introduced by a SSH secured line shrinks. I'm not sure of that. The link between the SSH host and the POP host will be through the provider's localnet. If you don't trust the provider's localnet, you are screwed anyway, even with SSL or direct-to-pop-host-ssh, because of the _arrival_ of the mail (SMTP)! -- Lionel Elie Mamane OpenPGP DH/DSS 4096/1024 Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 3E7B4B73): 9DAD 3131 3ADA F50B D096 002A B1C4 7317 3E7B 4B73 msg30551/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SSH
On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 02:41:10PM +0100, Peter Palmreuther wrote: KG Does The Bat support the above protocol? 2.) What should it be good for TheBat! supporting SSH? SSH is a 'Secure Shell' protocol with intonation on 'Shell'. In what way TB! should use or need a remote shell? Maybe he meant SSH tunneling of POP or IMAP... At some sites, SSL is not available, but SSH tunneling is. -- Lionel Elie Mamane OpenPGP DH/DSS 4096/1024 Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 3E7B4B73): 9DAD 3131 3ADA F50B D096 002A B1C4 7317 3E7B 4B73 msg30488/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SSH
On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 03:56:08PM +0100, Peter Palmreuther wrote: but I seriously doubt one would make such an effort necessary to tunnel POP3 and/or SMTP through _SSH_. Quite much easier to set up is POP3/SMTP-though-SSL. Through SSL needs support from the admin of the server (if it is behind a rigorous firewall). Trough SSH doesn't, if you already have shell access through SSH to that machine... So SSH tunneling _is_ easier if the machine admin is not cooperative. -- Lionel Elie Mamane OpenPGP DH/DSS 4096/1024 Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 3E7B4B73): 9DAD 3131 3ADA F50B D096 002A B1C4 7317 3E7B 4B73 msg30504/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SSH
On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 05:25:47PM +0100, Peter Palmreuther wrote: LEM So SSH tunneling _is_ easier if the machine admin is not LEM cooperative. But how would you tunnel a POP3 request through SSH? ssh remote_user@remote_host -L 7485:remote_host:110 and enter localhost port 7485 as POP3 server in you mail client. 7485 can be any number, btw. If you are using SSH2 protocol, the -N argument can be handy. (If you are using a non-command-line ssh client or one that doesn't take the same argument syntax as the UNIX client, check its documentation) SSH opens a remote shell in a secure way. This way you can read your mail via command line mailreader _on server_ or even with X-forwarding with a GUI one, X-forwarding is just a special case of port forwarding (with some X authentication spoofing around). Just forward another port to the POP3 port of the server. How shall SSHD know you want to connect to WHAT server on e.g. port 110? the 110 in the command. if you do ssh user@sshhost -L 7895:pophost:110 communication is encrypted between you and sshhost, but not between sshhost and pophost (if they are different). -- Lionel Elie Mamane RFC 1991 (PGP 2.x) 2048 bits Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 20C897E9): 85CF 986F 263E 8CD0 80FD 4B8C F5F9 C17D OpenPGP DH/DSS 4096/1024 Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 3E7B4B73): 9DAD 3131 3ADA F50B D096 002A B1C4 7317 3E7B 4B73 msg30519/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PGP
On Thu, Jul 20, 2000 at 01:31:51AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to learn to use PGP with email. Does anyone know a mailing list on PGP? Yep, PGP-basics. See on http://www.egroups.com/group/PGP-Basics for more info, subscription, etc. -- Lionel Elie Mamane RFC 1991 (PGP 2.x) 2048 bits Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 20C897E9): 85CF 986F 263E 8CD0 80FD 4B8C F5F9 C17D OpenPGP DH/DSS 4096/1024 Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 3E7B4B73): 9DAD 3131 3ADA F50B D096 002A B1C4 7317 3E7B 4B73 PGP signature
Mac XLat tables
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello TBUDL, Does anyone have the .xlt table for the character set used by Apple's Macs? - -- Best regards, Lionel mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP DH/DSS 4096/1024 Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 3E7B4B73): 9DAD 3131 3ADA F50B D096 002A B1C4 7317 3E7B 4B73 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOTKL77HEcxc+e0tzEQLofgCg3vFIdNVDwZaw9Rj0GMC+WF5HBCYAoOH9 bIuzgcOlV3QgJ4jldQocIZW5 =ddPq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Ability to have French Accenting?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Nick, Tuesday, May 16, 2000, 6:20:10 PM, you wrote: I occasionally receive/send messages in French which requires the use of accented characters. When I receive a reply (with my message quoted) my original text and the reply do not have any accents which is problematic. What mailer is the person replying using? Isn't it her mailer that zaps the accents on the reply? Also, where can I find more info on the editor (i.e. typing accented characters directly into the message instead of having to cut paste). Hm? What does happen when he pushes the key with any accented character, e.g. 'é', on it? (E.g. use the same method you would to type accented characters in your favorite wordprocessing app) I have no problem typing accented characters here with TB!. It happens that on an incoming mail, the encoding is not guessed well and I have to manually select Latin-1, but then all goes well. - -- Best regards, Lionelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP RSA 2048 bits Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 20C897E9): 85CF 986F 263E 8CD0 80FD 4B8C F5F9 C17D PGP DH/DSS 4096/1024 Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 3E7B4B73): 9DAD 3131 3ADA F50B D096 002A B1C4 7317 3E7B 4B73 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOSF0YbHEcxc+e0tzEQJgWgCdFiCZEy/4byAAMrz+J/3p8UhzHfIAoJEo Ybzm0Or2nUcTv0Gj5y4pT/P1 =k7VP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: PGP and Win2000 Pro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Tony, Saturday, May 06, 2000, 9:06:36 PM, you wrote: TB I just downloaded 6.5.3. When I view the version number it says TB 6.5.3. TB If you look at the signature using this version it states it as TB being 6.5i That's because you are using the "The Bat!" plug-in, and the Version of PGP is hard-coded in The Bat!. Try signing something with PGPTray, you'll see. - -- Best regards, Lionelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP RSA 1024 bits Key Fingerprint (KeyID: F6467875): 81A1 06A7 32C1 92DA 3B5A 3433 C96F B3CD PGP RSA 2048 bits Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 20C897E9): 85CF 986F 263E 8CD0 80FD 4B8C F5F9 C17D PGP DH/DSS 2048/1024 Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 8B91DF22): CB1E 44F1 4BBC 38D2 56A9 BE67 D8C0 2B43 8B91 DF22 PGP DH/DSS 4096/1024 Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 3E7B4B73): 9DAD 3131 3ADA F50B D096 002A B1C4 7317 3E7B 4B73 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBORUHEbHEcxc+e0tzEQIN6gCgkT3PdGEla1o7We/fgC7dyJyvP98AoMl5 c6eUA5+Isc72aHf8N8tewijY =aUB2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[7]: PGP and Win2000 Pro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Gary, Sunday, May 07, 2000, 12:20:49 AM, you wrote: G It is scary isn't it, no source code in the later releases. Yes, it really bothers me. And, what's more, I'll install W2000Pro soon. I'll have no choice but to use those versions. *Oh*, someone, please implement a well tested entropy source in GPG for Win32! - -- Best regards, Lionelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP DH/DSS 4096/1024 Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 3E7B4B73): 9DAD 3131 3ADA F50B D096 002A B1C4 7317 3E7B 4B73 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBORUHZ7HEcxc+e0tzEQJ1cgCg+yGkZ1F5b556a+6uw8jj0rWFftUAoIe5 c3D50a+N11033fN+/v8i6XsZ =FTXh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Some of 1.42 new features
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello All, [*] "Alternative URL start" can be invoked with the Shift key depressed What does that mean? I tried both with and without shift, and I saw no difference. - -- Best regards, Lionel mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP DH/DSS 4096/1024 Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 3E7B4B73): 9DAD 3131 3ADA F50B D096 002A B1C4 7317 3E7B 4B73 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBORPBAbHEcxc+e0tzEQI++gCfRp9Gne9TgZ03H7SKhiMTEV4tUb0An2nF FMLjK4l/QxqUuiXhUjyw/RQr =R2M5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Some of 1.42 new features
Hello Januk, Saturday, May 06, 2000, 9:22:08 AM, you wrote: JA If you are using any browser other than IE, holding shift will JA open the URL in a new browser window. No shift means it will open JA in the last open window. Ah, I confused it with the latest betas: In the latest betas, no shift would open a new window anyway :-) -- Best regards, Lionelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: PGP and Win2000 Pro
Hello Gary, Saturday, May 06, 2000, 4:19:00 PM, you wrote: A Does anyone know where I could get an international PGP version A that works with Win2k? G Allie, I was on www.pgpi.com a couple of days ago, Note: Main site is www.pgpi.org G and they have the new 6.53i version which does support W2K. I use G the US version of this and it installs quite nicely. Now, you can G get either the I or US versions. Sure? I saw no 6.5.3i version, only 6.5.1i and 6.5.3 (US). Where (what URL) did you saw 6.5.3i? -- Best regards, Lionelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP RSA 1024 bits Key Fingerprint (KeyID: F6467875): 81A1 06A7 32C1 92DA 3B5A 3433 C96F B3CD PGP RSA 2048 bits Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 20C897E9): 85CF 986F 263E 8CD0 80FD 4B8C F5F9 C17D PGP DH/DSS 2048/1024 Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 8B91DF22): CB1E 44F1 4BBC 38D2 56A9 BE67 D8C0 2B43 8B91 DF22 PGP DH/DSS 4096/1024 Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 3E7B4B73): 9DAD 3131 3ADA F50B D096 002A B1C4 7317 3E7B 4B73 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: PGP and Win2000 Pro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Gary, Saturday, May 06, 2000, 7:02:43 PM, you wrote: L Sure? I saw no 6.5.3i version, only 6.5.1i and 6.5.3 (US). Where L (what URL) did you saw 6.5.3i? G http://www.pgpi.org/cgi/download.cgi?filename=PGPfreeware_6.5.3.zip That's 6.5.3, not 6.5.3i. - -- Best regards, Lionelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBORRQIrHEcxc+e0tzEQJ//ACg8M7Y43073iv+tRRWg9F8+EkmUqAAoIfH ZmRjP37RDFQ0JEw5ofORRysb =4wC2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello rellieb-cal, Monday, May 01, 2000, 5:13:01 AM, you wrote: rc Do I have to place a blank line in between these paragraphs Yes, you do. - -- Best regards, Lionelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP RSA 1024 bits Key Fingerprint (KeyID: F6467875): 81A1 06A7 32C1 92DA 3B5A 3433 C96F B3CD PGP RSA 2048 bits Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 20C897E9): 85CF 986F 263E 8CD0 80FD 4B8C F5F9 C17D PGP DH/DSS 2048/1024 Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 8B91DF22): CB1E 44F1 4BBC 38D2 56A9 BE67 D8C0 2B43 8B91 DF22 PGP DH/DSS 4096/1024 Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 3E7B4B73): 9DAD 3131 3ADA F50B D096 002A B1C4 7317 3E7B 4B73 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOQ00YrHEcxc+e0tzEQJTzACfbubWyoB1xmgdogcNHs06Jj4Oe7wAoIK2 JijdGy6CB/dEGB46CzeWpRTn =5+8a -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Vote for The Bat! (New!)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello phil, Friday, April 28, 2000, 7:08:00 PM, you wrote: "Setup file contains VIRUS!!!" p People could always ask Vik Chaudhary, [EMAIL PROTECTED] exactly p what virii this was. p Except p Microsoft(R) Windows 98 p(C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1998. I:\Z\Desktopping bitbizzare.com p Unknown host bitbizzare.com. I:\Z\Desktop but: C:\nslookup -q=mx bitbizarre.com Server: phragmite.cybercable.fr Address: 212.198.0.66 bitbizarre.com MX preference = 50, mail exchanger = mail-fwd.vwh1.net bitbizarre.com nameserver = ns10.vwh1.net bitbizarre.com nameserver = ns11.vwh1.net mail-fwd.vwh1.net internet address = 209.238.9.60 mail-fwd.vwh1.net internet address = 209.238.9.61 ns10.vwh1.net internet address = 209.238.9.50 ns11.vwh1.net internet address = 209.238.9.51 p The guy is full of sh-t. Fake email address, what do you expect, p probably has an axe to grind. This doesn't seem to be a fake e-mail address: There is a MX record in the DNS system! - -- Best regards, Lionelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP RSA 1024 bits Key Fingerprint (KeyID: F6467875): 81A1 06A7 32C1 92DA 3B5A 3433 C96F B3CD PGP RSA 2048 bits Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 20C897E9): 85CF 986F 263E 8CD0 80FD 4B8C F5F9 C17D PGP DH/DSS 2048/1024 Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 8B91DF22): CB1E 44F1 4BBC 38D2 56A9 BE67 D8C0 2B43 8B91 DF22 PGP DH/DSS 4096/1024 Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 3E7B4B73): 9DAD 3131 3ADA F50B D096 002A B1C4 7317 3E7B 4B73 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOQqAtLHEcxc+e0tzEQJVagCgjLtXUpjKvBC1jq0Z7TnId2K1rRMAn2WX gfxzrwMLfaA5qJD9XQY0346T =AxE8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
The Bat! - suggestions for ticker
Hello The Bat! developers, I'm using The Bat! Version 1.42 Beta/8 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6. There are some features I would like to see in your program: right-click on a msg in the ticker, and select "don't show" Then this particular msg is marked as non read, but doesn't appear in the ticker any more. Regards, Lionel Elie Mamane -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Even people that don't have it appreciate The Bat!
Quote from a mailing list: ===8==Original message text=== Lionel poste des trucs très beaux et très lisibles en ce moment. Ca vient de: X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.42 Beta/8) Educational ===8===End of original message text=== Translation: Lionel posts very beautiful and readable things at present. It come from: X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.42 Beta/8) Educational So here we have the proof The Bat! is agreeable not only for the one using it, but also for the one reading msgs made with it! -- Best regards, Lionelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: highlighting the your account first
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Simon, Wednesday, March 22, 2000, 7:02:41 PM, you wrote: S When TB! is minimised to the tray, is there any way to create a new S message based on the default account template without restoring TB! S and highlighting your default account first? Well, you can right-click on its icon in the tray (if you have "minimize to tray" selected), "active account" and there select the correct one. That's how I do. - -- Best regards, Lionelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP RSA 1024 bits Key Fingerprint (KeyID: F6467875): 81A1 06A7 32C1 92DA 3B5A 3433 C96F B3CD PGP RSA 2048 bits Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 20C897E9): 85CF 986F 263E 8CD0 80FD 4B8C F5F9 C17D PGP DH/DSS 2048/1024 Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 8B91DF22): CB1E 44F1 4BBC 38D2 56A9 BE67 D8C0 2B43 8B91 DF22 PGP DH/DSS 4096/1024 Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 3E7B4B73): 9DAD 3131 3ADA F50B D096 002A B1C4 7317 3E7B 4B73 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBONmsXbHEcxc+e0tzEQK+xACgon+ginNQ3AkJ9DjCK+WBPt8+AKQAnioX Q55+Qh6GCDTdppS6SS/AUAq3 =cdo8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Attachements
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Arno, Wednesday, March 22, 2000, 11:15:53 PM, you wrote: AvS friend of mine sent me total file size of 10 MB via mail. I once had the same problem: Use the Mail Dispatcher. There, I was able to open the msg, save the attachments, and delete it from server. You might try the latest beta also, but take care, it uses a different msgbase format (that's why it could solve the problem g), so you can't revert back to non-beta if you encounter problems. - -- Best regards, Lionelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP RSA 1024 bits Key Fingerprint (KeyID: F6467875): 81A1 06A7 32C1 92DA 3B5A 3433 C96F B3CD PGP RSA 2048 bits Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 20C897E9): 85CF 986F 263E 8CD0 80FD 4B8C F5F9 C17D PGP DH/DSS 2048/1024 Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 8B91DF22): CB1E 44F1 4BBC 38D2 56A9 BE67 D8C0 2B43 8B91 DF22 PGP DH/DSS 4096/1024 Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 3E7B4B73): 9DAD 3131 3ADA F50B D096 002A B1C4 7317 3E7B 4B73 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBONmvY7HEcxc+e0tzEQL8MQCcDiRZ7FWMBRePLama/3rbhQUf+7kAn3J4 av79GQ+kqfvA/yg0NaHdhy2Z =dyQS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Forwards and e-mail addresses?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jason, Thursday, March 09, 2000, 5:17:08 AM, you wrote: JE whenever I forward an e-mail to him, he does not get the original JE sender's e-mail address. Anyone know what setting I need to change JE to make this work the way it should? Add it to you forward template. (keyword: %OFROMADDR) Or use MIME forwarding. - -- Best regards, Lionelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOMdXX7HEcxc+e0tzEQJTpwCgly4uoS4gi6CU9UlRG4b1p4owKE0An2n+ UlOxHH1w2PRRboQ3y+x+TrRO =d9eg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: SOT Compuserve POP (was: anyone tried using the bat to get aol emails?)
Hello Thomas, Friday, January 07, 2000, 4:15:04 AM, you wrote: LEM The "pure text" access seems to be, at least commercially, LEM dropped now. LEM I tested it, and it still works flawlessly, though. TF ??? I don't get it: above you say it has been dropped, and here you TF say it works. I said "at least commercially". This meant to me it's still there, but you won't find *any* reference to it in the Compuserve documentations. They do as if it weren't there. If you don't already know about it, they will never say to you it exists. -- Best regards, Lionelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
SOT Compuserve POP (was: anyone tried using the bat to get aol emails?)
Hello Thomas, Thursday, January 06, 2000, 6:53:21 AM, you wrote: TF OK; I cancelled my subscribtion with Cserve about a year ago. The TF reason was, I had a "normal" account first, which you can check TF with either the cserve software, or by telnetting and following TF their menus. Since I lived in Thailand at that time and they TF offered a baud rate of 2400 bps, I finally changed to POP - and TF couldn't telnet any more. You can telnet to the POP server and send the POP commands "by hand" ;-) Like that: USER your_name PASS your_pass LIST: lists the msgs TOP N M: gets the M first line of msg N° N. (or the other way round, I always forget) etc, etc. LEM The only feature it "robbed" you was you couldn't change your LEM address any more. TF That was one, the other one was that you couldn't do anything - TF anything at all except pop-check your mail - without the cserve TF software. Hu? If you set up the correct log-in script in Win95/98/NT dial-up networking, you can access the whole internet without the compuserve software! FTP, ICQ, Web, everything. This has been so for ages now. (Before, at WinCIM's 2.0 times, that's maybe ... 5 or 7 years) you could access the Internet OR access compuserve specific areas within one call). You need(ed) the Compuserve software only to go to Compuserve-specific areas. (Less and less true now, though: They are switching to a "private web" model, so you can use Netscape or IE, with the correct authentification plug-in) LEM Now (since late June 1999), the two mailboxes have been merged, and LEM you can access it either via the compuserve software, or via POP, as LEM you wish when you wish. A by-effect, the POP mailbox is now limited to LEM 250 messages :-( TF As they pride themselves in being more than an ISP, can you now Have a TF pop account *and* telnet? You now have ONE mailbox, you can access via POP or the compuserve software (proprietary protocol). And, ah, yes I remember what you are speaking about now. The so-named "New Mail" system vs the old system you could access via a TEXT menu, connecting to the compuserve network via an ASCII (VT-100) emulation (like a BBS) (or telneting to gateway.compuserve.com)! Note that if you have another internet connection (you need one to telnet, don't you?), you can still use the compuserve software to do everything you wish to. No, you can't have text-based access AND the "New mail" system. The "pure text" access seems to be, at least commercially, dropped now. It is still implemented, but beware: The sign-up program automatically switches you to the "new mail" system now ;-) LEM That's how my mailbox overflows every holiday, now g. TF With my ISP's (including this IBM.com), they limit the server TF space you can use, not the number of messages. Compuserve limits both now... Max 10MB/msg, max 30MB total, max 250 msgs. TF By the way, can you FTP into your account and save files on the TF server? ? Do you mean on your homepage? Maybe, I never tried to do my own homepage. I can look it up if you wish. -- Best regards, Lionelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP RSA 1024 bits Key Fingerprint (KeyID: F6467875): 81A1 06A7 32C1 92DA 3B5A 3433 C96F B3CD PGP RSA 2048 bits Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 20C897E9): 85CF 986F 263E 8CD0 80FD 4B8C F5F9 C17D PGP DH/DSS 2048/1024 Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 8B91DF22): CB1E 44F1 4BBC 38D2 56A9 BE67 D8C0 2B43 8B91 DF22 PGP DH/DSS 4096/1024 Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 3E7B4B73): 9DAD 3131 3ADA F50B D096 002A B1C4 7317 3E7B 4B73 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: SOT Compuserve POP (was: anyone tried using the bat to get aol emails?)
Hello Thomas, Thursday, January 06, 2000, 3:49:44 PM, you wrote: LEM You can telnet to the POP server and send the POP commands "by LEM hand" ;-) Like that: TF [...] TF I see they have improved - you couldn't do that "back then". :-) No, that's what your POP client does. As soon as you have a POP server and account, you can telnet (on the port 110) of the POP server, and the server will not make any difference between you and your POP client. Try it with your current ISP's POP account. LEM The "pure text" access seems to be, at least commercially, LEM dropped now. TF Even many "normal" ISP's won't let you work on the unix any more. When TF I telnet into my Thai account, it will automatically start pine, and TF quitting pine will automatically log you off. On ibm.net, "connection TF refused" is the mantra. So Cserve is in line with the overall trend. TF :-( I tested it, and it still works flawlessly, though. I don't really see why you absolutely wanted to access your e-mail by Telnet. For your POP mailbox, you could use any mail program you wished to, even if connected to the Internet via another ISP. For your "normal" mailbox, you could use the Compuserve program, even if connected to the Internet via another ISP. So you could access your e-mail from another ISP, where's the problem? LEM Compuserve limits both now... Max 10MB/msg, max 30MB total, max LEM 250 msgs. TF Wow! 30MB server space is lot more than I have (between 1MB and 6MB TF per mail account). Yeah, I know, it was a very pleasant news when they created the POP mail. But with the new 250 messages limit, this is unreachable: The mailing lists I subscribed to flood me with tiny messages, always less than 2KB. 30MB without any number of messages limit was cool. After 2 or 3 days, my mailbox is full... Before the "improvement" I could quit everything for 2 months. I had 1500 messages, but less than 30MB, so everything was fine: Mailbox not full. TF By the way, can you FTP into your account and save files on the TF server? (cut the explanations) I don't think you can do it. -- Best regards, Lionelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP RSA 1024 bits Key Fingerprint (KeyID: F6467875): 81A1 06A7 32C1 92DA 3B5A 3433 C96F B3CD PGP RSA 2048 bits Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 20C897E9): 85CF 986F 263E 8CD0 80FD 4B8C F5F9 C17D PGP DH/DSS 2048/1024 Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 8B91DF22): CB1E 44F1 4BBC 38D2 56A9 BE67 D8C0 2B43 8B91 DF22 PGP DH/DSS 4096/1024 Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 3E7B4B73): 9DAD 3131 3ADA F50B D096 002A B1C4 7317 3E7B 4B73 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: SOT Compuserve POP (was: Re[3]: anyone tried using the bat to get aol emails?)
Hello tracer, Thursday, January 06, 2000, 3:48:37 PM, you wrote: t If this same trick works with Compuserve, no idea, try it... Yeah, it works. You can access the whole Compuserve network from ANY internet connection, with the Compuserve software. -- Best regards, Lionelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: anyone tried using the bat to get aol emails?
Hello Thomas, Wednesday, January 05, 2000, 5:17:19 AM, you wrote: TF (I know with Compuserve, you would have to apply for a POP TF account, which robs you of some other features.) False. I'm on Compuserve, and using my account via POP didn't rob me any feature. This is relatively new, though. Former, you had to create a second mailbox, you could access via POP. The "compuserve" mailbox and the "POP" mailbox were separate, but you could redirect the compuserve mailbox to the POP mailbox. The only feature it "robbed" you was you couldn't change your address any more. Now (since late June 1999), the two mailboxes have been merged, and you can access it either via the compuserve software, or via POP, as you wish when you wish. A by-effect, the POP mailbox is now limited to 250 messages :-( That's how my mailbox overflows every holiday, now g. -- Best regards, Lionelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP RSA 1024 bits Key Fingerprint (KeyID: F6467875): 81A1 06A7 32C1 92DA 3B5A 3433 C96F B3CD PGP RSA 2048 bits Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 20C897E9): 85CF 986F 263E 8CD0 80FD 4B8C F5F9 C17D PGP DH/DSS 2048/1024 Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 8B91DF22): CB1E 44F1 4BBC 38D2 56A9 BE67 D8C0 2B43 8B91 DF22 PGP DH/DSS 4096/1024 Key Fingerprint (KeyID: 3E7B4B73): 9DAD 3131 3ADA F50B D096 002A B1C4 7317 3E7B 4B73 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Automatic BCC
Hello Januk, Tuesday, December 14, 1999, 7:17:01 AM, you wrote: JA I have a bunch of user specific templates, and I really don't want JA to search through all my contacts and all my folders just to add JA %BCC="[EMAIL PROTECTED]". I'm guaranteed to miss one or two. Any ideas? What I have done, from the start, however, is make an %include=\path\common.txt in ALL of my templates. So, ALL what's common is there, and I can change it easily. Easy to set up, but long to switch to if already have many templates :*( -- Best regards, Lionelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[3]: Out of memory trying to attach 9 megabyte ZIP file
Hello tracer, Friday, October 29, 1999, 5:59:36 AM, you wrote: t Thats why splitting files and sending them as one by one seperate t parts is better and more polite but really files should be ftp'd. t Its really not that complicated to run an ftp server on your system so t that the receiver from the other side can ftp the stuff out.. t Vermillion is an obvious candidate but it isnt free... Except some users can't do it: Forbidden by the agreement between the ISP and them. It's my case : Cable user in France, forbidden to put up any sort of a server, FTP, HTTP nor anything other. If I want to put an FTP server on my cable connection, it costs 2000 FRF/month, not 200FF/month any more (200 FRF = 32 USD) -- Best regards, Lionelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: New user question
Hello, "Andrew K. Lovetski" wrote: LEM Hey! I just thought of that! Maybe a "Reply-To: XXX" with "Kludges" LEM would work? Or does it match only against Kludges content and not LEM Kludges names? It should match against kludges as you see them. So, if you have "Reply-To: XXX", then it should match, Works. I tried it on the X-Mailer kludge, works. but if you have "Reply-To: YYY, XXX", then it won't, I suppose. I suppose also. But maybe by using the "regular expressions" thing we could do it. I just didn't find any info on this in the documentation... I know what a regular expression is, but not the particular syntax they chose. LEM The 'Sender' choice, only the 'From' kludge or also the 'Sender' LEM kludge? "Sender" = From, Reply-to, may be Sender, too - test it and report us! No, Sender is not From. Check this very single message you are reading now: 'From' is me, 'Sender' is the TBDUL Listbot! Your message, e.g. looks like this: From: "Andrew K. Lovetski" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... cut Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quite different, eh! That's the way I used to filter mailing-list messages in Netscape. 'Sender' hits in Reply-To, I tested. I'm testing the 'Sender' kludge vs 'Sender' choice with this particular msg. -- Lionel Mamane -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
