Re[5]: how to efficiently fight against spam with the bat!
Barry2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on Tuesday, November 12, 2002, 6:47:18 PM Hello Mitch, Tuesday, November 12, 2002, 3:35:37 AM, you wrote: MW Barry2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on Monday, November 11, 2002, 7:18:49 PM MW Aren't you concerned about losing legitimate mail in the spam screen? Not at all - all mail headers are looked at before deciding whether to download or not. You soon learn to spot the legitimate mail so that leaves the SPAM, again easy to spot, and the unfamiliar mail which comes in for a closer inspection. If suspicious looking then it either gets deleted or left on the server till we can check it out more thoroughly. I know from experience that I can't always tell legitimate mail from spam just by glancing at the headers. Most of the time, yes, but not all the time. -- Mitch Wagner Technology Journalism and Consulting Resumé and clips www.mitchwagner.com +1 (619) 461-4316 Contributing writer to BtoB Magazine, InternetWeek.com, Network World, SDTimes, TechWeb. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: how to efficiently fight against spam with the bat!
Barry2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on Monday, November 11, 2002, 7:18:49 PM Again, just is a waste of bandwidth and to scan through such a folder would take longer than to go through the headers in the Mail Dispatcher ... not that it's the time angle I'm bothered about, but surely it's more tedious to go through a whole folder full of Spam just to weed out what you'd pick up in a matter of seconds before you downloaded ?? I guess everyone has their own way of using TB! - and for me that is one of its great strengths - but I can assure you that pre-scanning the headers first isn't tedious in the slightest - on a dial-up connection it can be more tedious just watching all that rubbish come down the phone line lol Each to their own - but the original question was about how to efficiently fight Spam the way we do it here there is ZERO spam on our systems and the only mail we get is the mail we *want* to get. As a Spam / Virus fighting methodology that takes some beating lol NB - just in case .. we also run up to date AV and Firewall too :-) Aren't you concerned about losing legitimate mail in the spam screen? Mitch Wagner Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: how to efficiently fight against spam with the bat!
Adam Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on Sunday, November 10, 2002, 7:32:08 AM Sunday, November 10, 2002, 2:25:35 AM, Mitch wrote: It's not just for filtering spam - you can filter your e-mail on ANYTHING. I've been playing with it a couple of hours, and I've got it set up to take over all my e-mail filtering. Seems to be working out pretty well - it already knows where to put my mailing list mail and this is after filtering a mere 14 messages. Pretty impressive. ... I'm really very impressed with POPinfo. This is what sounds so great about it, the ability to recognise many different things about email that static filters just can't . The only problem with using it as a perl script, is that once you've set it up initially it then runs using just that batch of emails as a base. What it really needs is to be integrated into the mail client, that way when it misses something, or gets it wrong, you can tell it to correct it's database when you move the email to the correct folder. The documentation is unclear on this point, but you CAN train it on incoming e-mails. You go to a page marked history on the configuration page, where you see a list of all the e-mails you've received recently, along with a pull-down of which bucket they were classified into. If you change the bucket in the pull-down, you can train the software to recognize the correct bucket. Mitch Wagner Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: how to efficiently fight against spam with the bat!
rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on Saturday, November 9, 2002, 12:52:35 PM Hello Claude, Saturday, November 9, 2002, 3:10:06 PM, you wrote: CR Hi, CR Could someone tell me what antispam software (or CR solution) which workvery well with the bat!, a solution to fight against CR spam and attachment with viruses. I am currently using POPfile which is an open source program. However, it is not for the initiate. URL is http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ A new windows32 binary was just released 2 days ago. If you do use this then I recommend you do the following: 1. read manual/go to forums and read post for absolute beginners 2. download perl.exe for windows 3. download popfile 4. use run popfile.pl 5. then type this in internet explorer http://127.0.0.1:8080 and this will give you a GUI to configure the POPFile. 6. configure TheBat! to work with POPFile by following instructions in the manual 7. configure and then start classifying your emails. I have found that the GUI configuration works much better than the command line. after 2 days it is working quite well. It uses probability instead of static filters. Works wonderful so far. Wow, how exciting! I read the essay on using Bayesian filtering to classify spam a couple of months ago, and I'm pleased to see someone implementing it this quickly. Currently, I'm using the free program SpamPal http://spampal.org.uk/ along with a few simple text filters in The Bat! - it's quite effective. Mitch Wagner Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: how to efficiently fight against spam with the bat!
Adam Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on Saturday, November 9, 2002, 6:01:24 PM Saturday, November 9, 2002, 8:52:35 PM, rick wrote: after 2 days it is working quite well. It uses probability instead of static filters. Works wonderful so far. Are you just using it to filter spam? I was interested in replacing all my bat rules with this, but I don't know how well it would work. Given that my current filters get 90% of my spam anyway, I'm not sure it's worth it. POPinfo doesn't replace your The Bat filters; it complements them. POPinfo adds a special header to your e-mail to designate the type of e-mail, you set up your filters to sort e-mail based on that header. It's not just for filtering spam - you can filter your e-mail on ANYTHING. I've been playing with it a couple of hours, and I've got it set up to take over all my e-mail filtering. Seems to be working out pretty well - it already knows where to put my mailing list mail and this is after filtering a mere 14 messages. Pretty impressive. Of course, you don't need fancy-shmancy Bayesian statistical analysis just to filter out mailing lists. And, as you say, there's existing technology that already does a good job of filtering out spam. The REAL question for me is, can I teach it to separate high-priority legitimate e-mail from less important e-mail which is still legitimate? I'm a technology journalist - can I teach POPfilter to separate the big announcements from big companies from the minor announcements? (I can't just tell it to flag all e-mail from Microsoft and Sun as important - sometimes those guys make minor announcements.) Can I teach it to flag e-mail from my friends, family and co-workers as important, unless they're just forwarding jokes? I'm really very impressed with POPinfo. Mitch Wagner Technology Journalism and Consulting Resumé and clips www.mitchwagner.com +1 (619) 461-4316 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: how to efficiently fight against spam with the bat!
rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on Saturday, November 9, 2002, 6:47:12 PM MW Of course, you don't need fancy-shmancy Bayesian statistical analysis MW just to filter out mailing lists. And, as you say, there's existing MW technology that already does a good job of filtering out spam. POPFile was not designed for filtering out mailing lists. It was designed for spam. From the documentation, it appears that POPfile was designed for ANY KIND of mail filtering. Spam filtering is only part of it. That's what makes it apparently so powerful. Mitch Wagner Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[6]: Spam - whitelisting domains?
Raj [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on Saturday, October 26, 2002, 7:41:52 PM Mitch, On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, at 13:38:10 [GMT -0700] (which was 2:08 AM where I live) you wrote: MW I'd like to find some way of automating all that cutting-and-pasting MW so I just have to press a couple of keys, or click a button, to have MW benign domains added to a domain whitelist. What I do is exactly what you do... Just that each of these domains have to be added manually to the alternatives in the filter. At this moment I do not think there is another way. :( Alas. Feature request! Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Spam - whitelisting domains?
Raj [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on Saturday, October 26, 2002, 4:52:26 AM Mitch, On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, at 13:13:13 [GMT -0700] (which was 1:43 AM where I live) you wrote: MW That's precisely my point - I'm looking for a filter that does what MW the Known Incoming filter does, but works on domains rather than MW whole addresses. One way to do it is to manually create a 'Known-1' In that filter add the sting of just the domain name for presence in the sender. Action as you wish and NO continue with other filters. It works for me. How do you add a new domain to the Known-1 filter? Here's how I'm currently doing it: I have a filter called Not Spam Domains - it's the very last filter on my list before I get to the spam filters. The Action on the filter is to move the messages to folder Inbox. The box to continue processing with other filters is unchecked. The Filtering Strings and Alternatives are the domain names of domains where I know that nothing coming from those domains is spam. These are mostly companies I do business with where some of their e-mail has, in the past, been falsely targeted as spam by my filters. Right now the way I add to that list is by going through my spam folder. When I find a false-positive in theree - some mail which is NOT spam - I open it, manually cut the domain of the sender into the clipboard, and then paste the domain into a new set under the Alternatives tab of the not spam domains sorting rule. I'd like to find some way of automating all that cutting-and-pasting so I just have to press a couple of keys, or click a button, to have benign domains added to a domain whitelist. Mitch Wagner Technology Journalism and Consulting Resumé and clips www.mitchwagner.com Weblog www.drive-thru.org +1 (619) 461-4316 Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Spam - whitelisting domains?
I'm looking for an easy way to set up a rule to whitelist the domain of someone who sends me e-mail. For instance, if I get e-mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED], I'd like to have a simple way of whitelisting example.com. Currently, I have rule set up for whitelisted domains that requires me to cut-and-paste the domain from the e-mail message, and add it to the alternate filter strings lists. I'd like a simpler way to do it, one that would be about as easy as adding an e-mail address to an address book. Ideas, anyone? Mitch Wagner Technology Journalism and Consulting Resumé and clips www.mitchwagner.com Weblog www.drive-thru.org +1 (619) 461-4316 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Spam - whitelisting domains?
Miguel A. Urech [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on Friday, October 25, 2002, 12:38:36 PM Hello Mitch, Currently, I have rule set up for whitelisted domains that requires me to cut-and-paste the domain from the e-mail message, and add it to the alternate filter strings lists. I'd like a simpler way to do it, one that would be about as easy as adding an e-mail address to an address book. That is exactly what the Known Incoming filter (included by default in each account) is for. Go to Account/Sorting Office and take a look at it under Incoming filters, it's quite self explanatory. However, the Known filter looks for addresses in AB, not domains. That's precisely my point - I'm looking for a filter that does what the Known Incoming filter does, but works on domains rather than whole addresses. Right now, I've got a filter that does that, but I need to manually clipboard the domain name of the sender's e-mail address, and then paste the domain name into the filter conditions of the rule. I'm looking to find some way that I can open an e-mail, and press a button to have the sender's domain added to a whitelist. Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Bat crash
I have installed and updated a couple of new software packages, and checked for viruses. My OS is Windows 98. -- Mitch Wagner Original Message Subject: Bat crash From: Ming-Li [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11/1/2000 To: Mitch Wagner on TBUDL [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tuesday, October 31, 2000, 7:29:25 AM, Mitch wrote: I haven't modified any files for The Bat! or downloaded any modified files and installed them over The Bat! files. Have you installed (updated) any new (old) software then? Have you tried to re-install TB? What's your OS? Did you check virus recently (virus cleanups often leave the original files slightly different from the original)? -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.48 Beta/1 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Bat crash
I haven't modified any files for The Bat! or downloaded any modified files and installed them over The Bat! files. The new-messages window shows, but the icons don't. -- Mitch Wagner Original Message Subject: Bat crash From: Jamie Dainton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10/30/2000 To: Mitch Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Mitch Wagner, On Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:07:43 -0700 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, October 28, 2000, 05:07:43 (GMT+0100) (BST) my local time, Mitch Wagner wrote: MW I'm finding The Bat! crashes frequently when I open a window to MW reply to a message, or start a new message. I get the following MW error message: Access violation at address 004258B2. Read of MW address 616C6F81. The error message usually keeps coming back MW after I hit the OK key, so I have to Ctrl-Alt-Del to kill the MW application. MW Lately I've had similar freeze-ups with the following error MW messages: Access violation at address 004258B5. Read of address MW Invalid image list. The parameter is incorrect. Are you using a modified glyphs file? Although invalid parameter does sound like a hard coded instruction. Do all the window buttons display in the new window? Does the window even show? -- Jamie Dainton On Monday, October 30, 2000 at 13:41:50 The Bat! 1.47 Halloween Edition Windows 98 4.10 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=sendKey Programming graphics in X is like finding sqrt(pi) using Roman numerals. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Bat crash
I'm finding The Bat! crashes frequently when I open a window to reply to a message, or start a new message. I get the following error message: Access violation at address 004258B2. Read of address 616C6F81. The error message usually keeps coming back after I hit the OK key, so I have to Ctrl-Alt-Del to kill the application. Lately I've had similar freeze-ups with the following error messages: Access violation at address 004258B5. Read of address Invalid image list. The parameter is incorrect. -- Mitch Wagner -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: rule that plays a sound
Yes, please do send the exe. Thanks. -- Mitch Wagner Original Message Hello Mitch and Bat Buddies... MW Can you recommend another sound player, one that runs in the MW background without grabbing focus? I have one that is 1.5kb. It is packaged with the freeware NetLaunch program. It has no interface whatsoever so it doesn't grab the focus. You specify a wav file with the command line. Download NetLaunch yourself @ www.blackcastlesoft.com Or I can send you the exe myself if you wouldn't mind. -- Unequivocally, Jason Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! v1.45 Beta/5 Win98 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Three weeks of mail--gone!
Thanks. I'll try those things. -- Mitch Wagner Original Message Hi Mitch, On 15 July 2000 at 16:11:05 GMT -0700 (which was 00:11 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Three weeks of mail--gone!": MW A good thought, but not a solution, I'm afraid. There is no maximum MW number of messages set. Thanks anyway. In that case try: Folder -- browse deleted messages. Or try exiting TB, deleting the .tbi (index) file for that folder and re-loading. If the messages are still there, one or other of these methods will retrieve them. -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY *--- | Using The Bat! 1.45 Beta/7 S/N 14F4B4B2 | under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 *--- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Three weeks of mail--gone!
I had a little problem with my system freezing up yesterday with The Bat! running. Once it was while The Bat! was actually shutting down and purging and compressing messages. I don't know whether it was The Bat!'s fault or not. I do know that when I came in this morning, The Bat! was missing three weeks worth of e-mail from the inbox of one of my accounts--everything from the end of June back to yesterday. This is vexing; I needed to check some of that e-mail. Is there any way to recover this mail, or is it gone for good? Is there any way to prevent this problem from recurring? I am running The Bat! version 1.44 on Windows 98. -- Mitch Wagner -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Three weeks of mail--gone!
Thanks, but changing the OS is not an option; I'm running this on a corporate system. As to the power supply, I don't think that was the problem--it was a system freeze-up, it wasn't a case of losing power. -- Mitch Wagner Original Message Hi Mitch Wagner, On Friday, July 14, 2000 at 7:54:09 PM you wrote: I am running The Bat! version 1.44 on Windows 98. Try using NT or Win2k and buy a UPS to reduce the probability significantly. Oliver Sturm -- I prefer using the door instead of the Windows... -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: Three weeks of mail--gone!
Interesting points. Thank you. My home office, where I work, is prone to brownouts; maybe that has been the source of a lot of my problems. I'm actually using a Dell Latitude laptop in a docking station and hooked up to a power strip to run The Bat! Shouldn't the laptop batteries and power strip serve to smooth out power glitches and brownouts? And, back to my original question: is there anything I can do FROM WITHIN THE BAT! to prevent future message losses? Anything I can do to recover the three weeks of messages which are no longer showing up in my mailbox, but which (fingers crossed) might still be hidden somewhere in my mail archive? -- Mitch Wagner Original Message Hi Mitch Wagner, On Friday, July 14, 2000 at 10:59:32 PM you wrote: Thanks, but changing the OS is not an option; I'm running this on a corporate system. Well, IMO there's nothing in this world that makes Win98 run smoothly and undisturbed under all circumstances. Same goes for NT (probably for any OS if you take it seriously), but it's much (ahem, _MUCH_) more stable. Anyway, defragging your drives regularly and making sure you have more RAM than you need most of the time will certainly do good. As to the power supply, I don't think that was the problem--it was a system freeze-up, it wasn't a case of losing power. Cases of nearly-losing power can cause effects like what you described. We've had that on database systems which even continued running, but was losing data nevertheless due to sub-optimal power supply. Oliver Sturm -- %make love Make: Don't know how to make love. Stop. -- Oliver Sturm / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 71D86996 Fingerprint: 8085 5C52 60B8 EFBD DAD0 78B8 CE7F 38D7 71D8 6996 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
rule that plays a sound
Is there any way to get a filter to play a sound when the filter triggers. I have one e-mail account set up to deposit some messages in folders as soon as they are received and leave the rest in the In box. I'd like to set up The Bat! so that when mail goes into the In box it plays a sound, but NOT when mail is received to go into the additional folders. -- Mitch Wagner -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: rule that plays a sound
Thanks, but I haven't been able to get mplayer configured to work that way. Can you recommend another sound player, one that runs in the background without grabbing focus? -- Mitch Wagner Original Message Hi Mitch, On 07 July 2000 at 14:10:15 GMT -0700 (which was 22:10 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "rule that plays a sound": MW Is there any way to get a filter to play a sound when the filter MW triggers. Use the "Run external program" option on the "Actions" tab to launch media player (or a slimmer alternative) with a parameter of the sound file to be played. -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY *--- | Using The Bat! 1.45 Beta/5 S/N 14F4B4B2 | under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 *--- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: filter problem
I have a similar catchall message filter as the last filter for my incoming mail - but instead of using not-"?" I just left the filtering strings blank. The filter just searches for the presence of the sender field. Since virtually all messages contain a sender field, it catches every message that passes it by. (I say "virtually all," because I think I've gotten some spam messages that contain absent or blank sender fields - I'm not sure about that - but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.) -- Mitch Wagner Original Message Received: from dutaint.com (unverified [203.130.233.13]) by smtp.greyware.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 04:13:04 -0500 Received: from mail.osbtown.com by dutaint.com with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.1.0.R) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:10:35 +0700 Received: from 207.159.57.165 [207.159.57.165] by osbtown.com [207.159.57.12] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.8.5.0.R) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 02:09:49 -0700 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 02:07:38 -0700 From: phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.44) Personal Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Marek Mikus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re[2]: filter problem In-reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Owner: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Administrator: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MDRcpt-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk X-MDMailing-List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MDSend-Notifications-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greetings Marek! On Tuesday, June 13, 2000 at 17:52:55 GMT +0200 (which was 8:52 AM where you think I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: MM Hello all, MM Tuesday, June 13, 2000, Larry Barrett wrote: I would certainly be grateful for any suggestions. I might add that I use this same filter pattern in another e-mail client - and it works. It also works with The Bat! *most* of the time. My question is - why the inconsistency? MM try to cut all text except E-mail address. MM for example [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of "Marek Mikus" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Another thing is the order in which the filters are on the list. My very LAST filter is this "\*???" It makes everything else that hasn't been filtered go to a folder called 'INBOX1' (it's just a regular folder like INBOX) When I add a new filter, I have to move it to the top of the list again or else this "catch all filter" would send everything to INBOX1 instead of the respective folders I want. (I couldn't figure out what the perl syntax for *.*.*.* was, so I just used "\*?" because the chances of an email with ? as the address is zero. Oh yeah I used a 'NOT switch' on it. ie. if ? is _not present_ then send the mail to INBOX1 It hasn't skipped a beat once. Anyhow, MY advise..The order matters. Don't overlook it. Also Once upon a time, someone on the list had the letters "r i t" in their address or name (maybe someone named ritchard I forget now.), I must have screwed around for about two hours before I realized why their mail kept going to the wrong folder. So you got to look carefully at the existing filters because they can filter exactly what you tell them, and that might not have been what you wanted. Just like ritchards mail was going to my "RITLABS" folder with Stefan etc, I was wondering who this new programmer at RIT was for a little while. -- ... TB doesn't stand for tuberculosis, it stands for The Bat! --- The Bat! 1.44 + 98Lite + Revenge of Mozilla II -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
