copying filter rules from one account to another

[Patrick Erler]

hello TBUDL!

is there a handy way to copy filter rules from one account to
another (no problem if i need to copy /all/ rules to accomplish
it)

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LDAP server

[Patrick Erler]

hallo TBUDL!

did someone of you successfully connect to a LDAP server and managed
his aadressbook there, maybe even one on a linux-box running on the
LAN like i try to do?



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Re[2]: Parking messages in History dropdown menu

[Patrick Erler]

hallo John!

on Wednesday, August 16, 2000, 2:28:37 PM, you wrote:

JS> On Wednesday 16 August 2000 SyP wrote:
>> message (I thought it's a common abbrev.), so I asked if anybody using
>> "Parking messages in History dropdown menu". Sorry for the confusion.

JS> For the record, I use this feature, and I'm sure several parked
JS> addresses have dropped off my To: list at various points, but it
JS> happens only occasionally and is insufficiently annoying for me to
JS> investigate further. But yes, I have noticed funny goings on there.
acould someone explain what you're talking about?

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Re[2]: Mail ticker

[Patrick Erler]

hallo Oliver!

on Friday, August 11, 2000, 4:10:13 PM, you wrote:

OS> Hi Curtis,

OS> On Thursday, August 10, 2000 at 11:26:22 PM you wrote:

OS>>> OK now, same question as always: Is anyone from RITLABS listening in
OS>>> on their own product's mailing list or should I submit this stuff as
OS>>> a formal feature request?

>> They do read the list but since the list has been so busy and filled
>> with long argumentative threads they may just miss your feature request.
>> I suggest you send it separately to Ritlabs.

OS> OK,  I  did  that.  Forgot  to cc it to the list, though ;) Anyway, it
OS> tries to be a condensed version of what was discussed.
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Re[2]: Mail ticker

[Patrick Erler]

hallo Oliver!

on Thursday, August 10, 2000, 5:30:46 PM, you wrote:

OS> Hi Januk Aggarwal,

OS> On Thursday, August 10, 2000 at 6:04:26 AM you wrote:


>>  This may or may not be appropriate, but what about right-clicking on
>>  the ticker, select "Message -> Age Limits"?  Would that work?

OS> Not  really.  Usually I really want to see the messages in the ticker,
OS> that's  why  I'm  using  it.  And  I  don't  want to have the messages
OS> "expire"  while  I'm  off  to  the  toilet.  It's  just  those special
OS> situations  when suddenly five messages pop up that I'm not interested
OS> in at that time.
i stronlgy agree with this and really would like to see some
enhancements on the feature wish list.

the mail ticker is cool and should be extended a bit...

how about this:

click at message opens message window
ctrl-click remove from ticker but leave msg unread
shift-click remove from ticker and mark message read
alt-click remove from ticker and mark message flagged

optional:

right-click on message stops ticker and gives a menu with a lot of
freakin' options applicable to the message...

RITLAB?


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Re[4]: s/mime and certificates

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

hallo Gerd!

on Wednesday, August 02, 2000, 11:11:58 AM, you wrote:

GE> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
GE> Hash: SHA1

GE> Hi Patrick,

GE> on Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:45:58 +0200 GMT
GE> your local time, which was 02.08.2000, 10:45:58 (GMT+0200) my local time,
GE> you wrote about "s/mime and certificates":

PE>> the problem with the S/MIME certificates is that they
PE>> are browser dependent.. thats not acceptable for me because i use that
PE>> lot of browsers as a webdesigner that permanently exporting and
PE>> importing of certificates is way to much trouble.. so i will stay with
PE>> PGP as it looks...

GE> Mmmmh... I don't think S/MIME certificates are browser dependant. AFAIK the way
GE> d/ling them is browser dependant. Once you have your certificate and that one of
GE> your trustcenter you can import these into TB! (you need your own adress in the
GE> adress book and one or two adresses in Trusted Root CA and Intermediate CA to
GE> import the trustcenter's certificate.
right... i just could not find mine and tried to reinstall it into ie
from the email i received when i got my certificate but they told me
that i now use another browser..

btw, your signature is "invalid" here (bat 1.46/b2)...

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Re[2]: s/mime and certificates

[Patrick Erler]

hallo Gerd!

on Wednesday, August 02, 2000, 10:15:18 AM, you wrote:

GE> Hi Patrick,

GE> on Tue, 1 Aug 2000 16:45:22 +0200 GMT
GE> your local time, which was 01.08.2000, 16:45:22 (GMT+0200) my local time,
GE> you wrote about "s/mime and certificates":

PE>> i have my own certificate but i'm not able to import it btw..

GE> I would like to forward part of a message I sent earlier to this list. Maybe the
GE> mentioned URL is a good start for you.

GE> ++BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE+
GE> 

GE> Nevertheless after installing TB! 1.45 S/MIME you need to implement so-called
GE> certificates. Good explanation for downloading and implementation of
GE> certificates is http://www.mindquake.com.br/thebat/. To download a certificate
GE> of my trustcenter (WEB.DE) goto http://trust.web.de/root.sql.

GE> 
GE> ++END FORWARDED MESSAGE+++

GE> HTH


alles klar.. :) the problem with the S/MIME certificates is that they
are browser dependent.. thats not acceptable for me because i use that
lot of browsers as a webdesigner that permanently exporting and
importing of certificates is way to much trouble.. so i will stay with
PGP as it looks...


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s/mime and certificates

[Patrick Erler]

hallo TBUDL!

could someone give a small introdction of handling certificates (the
new S/MIME ones introduced with 1.45) in the bat?

i see differences between 1.45 and 1.46 beta (certificates are handled
now by the os (w2k) as it seems..)

i have my own certificate but i'm not able to import it btw..


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Re[2]: Mail ticker without Trash messages

[Patrick Erler]

hallo Jason!

on Tuesday, June 13, 2000, 8:58:13 AM, you wrote:

JT> Hello anjo and Bat Buddies...

a>> I've some filters that automatically put messages in the Trash folder.
a>> Anyway  they  appear  in the mail ticker, i think it wasn't suppose to
a>> happen,  as  if  it  is  in  the  Trash, is not important to know they
a>> arrive. Or is?

JT> In the filter action, make sure it's set to mark the filtered message as read.
JT> Unread messages appear in the ticker even if in the Trash.
not if you do

right click trash|properties| untick "show unread messages on..."




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Re[4]: [feature request]

[Patrick Erler]

hallo Jason!

on Saturday, June 10, 2000, 10:12:05 PM, you wrote:

JT> Hello Patrick and Bat Buddies...

Patrick>> i don't think so... (/seconds/ is the magic word here ;) )

JT> Ahh... Well, do you really need to download new mail more often than every 60
JT> seconds?? :-)
yep, i fetch my mail from my linux router that fetches them from my ISP
(in lack of a permanent IP). so these fetch intervalls start to ad up
and i get my mail - mh - delayed. so i would like to poll my router
every 30 secs... it's not quite sane i know, but the intervall is just
a variable in the bat, i think, so what? ;)




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Re[2]: [feature request]

[Patrick Erler]

hallo Jason!

on Saturday, June 10, 2000, 8:38:01 AM, you wrote:

JT> Hello Patrick and Bat Buddies...

Patrick>> please implement an option to specify the POP-poll intervalls in
Patrick>> seconds...

JT> Account properties : Options
JT> "Periodical Checking each 'X' seconds"

JT> I believe this is what you're looking for.
i don't think so... (/seconds/ is the magic word here ;) )




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[feature request]

[Patrick Erler]

hallo bat-developers!

please implement an option to specify the POP-poll intervalls in
seconds...

thanks,


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Re: SMTP access

[Patrick Erler]

hallo gary!

on Friday, June 09, 2000, 11:35:18 PM, you wrote:


g> Patrick Erler writes:

P>> what i would like to do:
P>> accessing the mail-spool-path of my linux-router with the BAT.
P>> explanation:
 
P>> in the near future i get my mail delivered to my linux-router via
P>> SMTP-forwarding from my provider. instead of polling the linux-router
P>> with the BAT every minute i would like to monitor the spooler-path
P>> directly.

g> I can start you off, by giving you the function that I use for Xemacs
g> in monitoring the spooler path, and this works quite well. 

g>  (setq vm-spool-files '("/var/spool/mail/wing"
g> "netcom23.netcom.com:110:pass:wing:MYPASS"))

g>Of course substitute your actual password for MYPASS

g> Maybe you can utilize some of this info for your use with TB!, but the
g> variable "steq vm-spool-files" is an Xemac variable.  I don't believe
g> there is an equivalent for TB!
aehem. kidding? kiffing? (german-only-joke)

give me a hint how i should combine the existing bat-interface with
LISP...

anyway, thanks :)


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SMTP access

[Patrick Erler]

hallo TBUDL!

what i would like to do:

accessing the mail-spool-path of my linux-router with the BAT.

explanation:

in the near future i get my mail delivered to my linux-router via
SMTP-forwarding from my provider. instead of polling the linux-router
with the BAT every minute i would like to monitor the spooler-path
directly.

if i rememebr correctly, PMail could do this. could the bat get such a
function? please don't tell me "it will be in v2" - its so long till
then... ;)


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Re: Virus checking turning OFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

[Patrick Erler]

hallo Alexander!

on Thursday, June 08, 2000, 11:33:08 AM, you wrote:

AAG> Hello Batmans,

AAG>   I can't endure it anymore ! Please tell me where i can turn off
AAG>   question box concerning viruses in attaches ?!

AAG> Regards, Your sincerely registered
AAG> 3AHO3A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]|2:5012/18.2>
   ^^^
   is this still FIDO? god bless you! ;)

...i remember the time... (la la la la la) ;)




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deleteing messages in threaded mode

[Patrick Erler]

hallo TBUDL!

maybe i'm  blind, but is it somehow possible to delete all messages
(not just all selected) in threaded mode? right now, when in threaded
mode i do a alt-0 to unthread my view, ctrl-a to select everything,
del to delete the selected and alt-1 to thread the view again, which
is a bit tiring... ;)


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SMTP

[Patrick Erler]

hallo TBUDL!

are there plans to read mail via monitoring an SMTP-directory in BAT?
(see PMMAIL)


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Re: So how many are you?

[Patrick Erler]

hallo Steve!

on Wednesday, May 17, 2000, 8:56:21 PM, you wrote:

SL> http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html

SL> A good list of email list and usenet flamers.  So, which one are you?
SL> More importantly, be honest now, which one /aren't/ I?  :)
say youself, mr. lamb! 




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Re[2]: a wish

[Patrick Erler]

hallo Tom!

on Wednesday, May 17, 2000, 8:23:45 PM, you wrote:


DS>> I do not wish to start a new flame war around the much debated built-in
DS>> editor, but may I suggest to allow the use of an external editor.

TP> Yes this has been suggested before and apparently is being considered
TP> for v2.
btw, any timeline for a beta?




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Re: Virtual desktop managers and The Bat!

[Patrick Erler]

hallo Christian!

on Tuesday, May 16, 2000, 10:51:24 PM, you wrote:

CD> Hello TBUDL,

CD>   I have used several virtual desktop managers with The Bat! and I am
CD>   having the same problem:

CD>   If I have The Bat! minimized and close the virtual window manager
CD>   The Bat!'s main window is "gone" for ever after. I do actually have
CD>   to uninstall and resinstall to get my main window back when I start
CD>   The Bat!. When I start The Bat the ticker and the splash shows, but
CD>   the main window is gone gone gone! Clicking in the taskbar doesn't
CD>   work. Nothing works.

CD>   I am sure there is some setting in the registry that I could delete
CD>   to fix this, but I do not know what. I also wonder why The Bat! has
CD>   this problem and none of the other apps I use (and those are not
CD>   few!).

CD>   Ideas?
if you use nt/w2k, just do a ctrl-shift-esc, right-click "the bat" and
press switch-to... in 95/98... mh...




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Re[2]: small cosmetic feature request

[Patrick Erler]

hallo Jast!

on Monday, May 15, 2000, 6:43:11 AM, you wrote:


J>  To be more constructive: I suggest some kind of arrow appear at the bottom
J>  of the New column when there are more new messages to be seen down there.
right... :)




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Re[2]: small cosmetic feature request

[Patrick Erler]

hallo Douglas!

on Sunday, May 14, 2000, 9:12:17 PM, you wrote:


DH> Hello Patrick,

DH> Sunday, May 14, 2000, 9:14:18 AM, you wrote:

PE>> i would like to have a little sign that there are new messages
PE>> in folders below the bottom of the visible foldertree so that i
PE>> do not have to scroll down, just to see, that there are no new
PE>> messages...

DH> Yes, I would like a separate account column in a (if virtual) common
DH> inbox.

DH> For now, the "little sign" you want is called the "Ticker", and you
DH> not only does it show only unread messages, you set a time frame for
DH> what's displayed.
come on, read my request again. (hint: the display of the information
that i received new mail, is not what i requested)




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small cosmetic feature request

[Patrick Erler]

hallo TBUDL!

i would like to have a little sign that there are new messages in
folders below the bottom of the visible foldertree so that i do not
have to scroll down, just to see, that there are no new messages...

ritlabs?


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Re[3]: problem with forms

[Patrick Erler]

hallo Windisch!

on Friday, May 12, 2000, 8:00:50 PM, you wrote:

WG> Hello TBUDL,

WG> On Friday, May 12, 2000, , Patrick Erler wrote:

>> i suppose you are talking about sending a form from a browser with
>> mailto:, right?

WG> yes

>> don't use this, it's highly incompatible and not
>> supportet with the most browser/email-client combination.

WG> You  don't  understand me, I don't want to make a form or anything like that
WG> but  it  is  present  on many sites and I can't use them because of this.  I
WG> don't want to install OE just for this
as i experienced it, it doesn't even works with some OE versions. just
write a mail to the webmaster and tell him that you can't send the
form from his website and give him the hint with the CGI-script...




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Re: problem with forms

[Patrick Erler]

hallo Windisch!

on Friday, May 12, 2000, 3:08:00 PM, you wrote:

WG> Hello TBUDL!

WG> I have a problem with HTML forms. I fill in a form and then it should send a
WG> letter to the address that was in the page and the body should look like:

WG> name=something
WG> name=something
WG> name=something
WG> name=something

WG> or something like that.

WG> instead  of  this  The  Bat!  creates a new letter but only the TO: field is
WG> correct,  the  rest of the letter is not. Instead of putting the name fields
WG> into the body, bat creates a new letter with the template depending on which
WG> folder I'm in. Is there a way to avoid this?
i suppose you are talking about sending a form from a browser with
mailto:, right? don't use this, it's highly incompatible and not
supportet with the most browser/email-client combination. use a
cgi-script instead. there are plenty of them and when you learned to
use them once you won't have any problems with forms anymore again

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wish: Re[2]: template question (nicknames)

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hallo Marck!

on Friday, May 12, 2000, 2:55:03 PM, you wrote:

MDP> Hi Patrick,

MDP> On 12 May 2000 at 14:07:35 GMT +0200 (which was 13:07 where I
MDP> live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject
MDP> of "template question (nicknames)":


>> is there a way to define the macros in a way that i can use a
>> nickname if the recipient has one in the adressbook, else it uses
>> the first name?

>> the reason is, that it is a bit strange that my messages say "hello
>> ralf!" when they should say "hello papa!" ;)

MDP> I  use  custom  templates  in the address book to achieve this. I know
MDP> it's not what you're asking, but while there is no macro for %nickname
MDP> there's no more we can do other than wish :-(.
cross fingers, dance around my monitor, huhu, big BAT, that shall be
my wish:

give us a %NICKNAME macro-template and do it so, that if no nickname
is present, it shall use the first name of the recipient!

hough!




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template question (nicknames)

[Patrick Erler]

hallo TBUDL!

is there a way to define the macros in a way that i can use a nickname
if the recipient has one in the adressbook, else it uses the first
name?

the reason is, that it is a bit strange that my messages say "hello
ralf!" when they should say "hello papa!" ;)


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Re: STILL HAVING! Problems Importing Netscape Add. Bk

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hallo Ken!

on Thursday, May 11, 2000, 2:22:04 PM, you wrote:


K> I received one suggestion to convert the addr. bk to Eudora
K> text. Did that, and STILL get the error described below. 

K> Does Anyone have other suggestions
so it sounds more like problem with the OS then with the format of the
file... do you experience other difficulties on your laptop? did you
disable that crashguard? oh, and did you stop netscape? it might block
access from the bat while it uses the adressbook...

PAT

K> ~~


K> Just installed The Bat ver. 1.42c. Have been trying to import
K> my Netscape 4.7 address books. Each time I get an error message
K> "no addresses have been imported."

K> I've used every file format to export from NS (LDIF, Comma
K> Separated, Tab Delimited) and tried each one in  BAT and get the
K> same error.

K> OS is Win 95 B, Dell Latitude P-133 Notebook, 40 mb ram, 2 GB HDD,
K> pgms running while doing this is NS and Bat, Norton Crash Guard.

K> I've checked the FAQ and Help File but see no reference to importing
K> NS addresses.

K> I like the looks of The Bat, but If i can't import my addresses.

K> Thanks for anyone's help!!

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Re[4]: OT: http mail --> POP3

[Patrick Erler]

hallo Patrick!

on Wednesday, May 10, 2000, 12:40:41 PM, you wrote:

PE> hallo Marek!

PE> on Wednesday, May 10, 2000, 10:41:00 AM, you wrote:

MM>> Hello all,
MM>> Wednesday, May 10, 2000, Jason Thompson wrote:

>>> Hello Christopher and Bat Buddies...

 Does  anyone  know  any  program  that  can  fetch  mail  from Hotmail
 accounts,  and act sat the same time as local POP3 server? All this is
 needed to download mail from Hotmail in an ordinary email client.
PE> yes there is such a solution, but i just can't find it right now... it
PE> was something with pop3 in the name... it sucks mail from hotmail,
PE> excite, yahoo etc..

PE> if i find it, i will post it..

ok, there are now a lot of such programs.

 
http://softseeksearch.zdnet.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?keywords=hotmail&seekindex=indexpc&maxresults=025&cb=


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Re[3]: OT: http mail --> POP3

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hallo Marek!

on Wednesday, May 10, 2000, 10:41:00 AM, you wrote:

MM> Hello all,
MM> Wednesday, May 10, 2000, Jason Thompson wrote:

>> Hello Christopher and Bat Buddies...

>>> Does  anyone  know  any  program  that  can  fetch  mail  from Hotmail
>>> accounts,  and act sat the same time as local POP3 server? All this is
>>> needed to download mail from Hotmail in an ordinary email client.
yes there is such a solution, but i just can't find it right now... it
was something with pop3 in the name... it sucks mail from hotmail,
excite, yahoo etc..

if i find it, i will post it..



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Re[2]: PGP and Win2000 Pro

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hallo Allie!

on Saturday, May 06, 2000, 4:58:39 PM, you wrote:

AM> On Sat, 6 May 2000 16:23:09 +0200, Patrick Erler wrote:

AM>>> Hi,

AM>>> Does anyone know where I could get an international PGP version that works
AM>>> with Win2k?
>> i got mine from www.nai.com...

AM> This site points you to PGP.com which doesn't allow downloading by
AM> non-US/Canadian residents.
right, i just had a look into the readme of my installation and it
sayd www.nai.com but now i remember...




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Re: PGP and Win2000 Pro

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hallo Allie!

on Saturday, May 06, 2000, 4:00:12 PM, you wrote:

AM> Hi,

AM> Does anyone know where I could get an international PGP version that works
AM> with Win2k?
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Re: Windows 2000 SMTP problem.

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hallo Christian!

on Friday, May 05, 2000, 4:17:12 PM, you wrote:

CD> Hello TBUDL,

CD>   I just installed The Bat! on a Windows 2000 machine (1.42 Beta 21).
CD>   I am only able to send mail once. The next time The Bat! says it
CD>   isn't able to connect to the server. I have to restart The Bat!
CD>   every time I need to send a new mail from the Win2K box. From my Win
CD>   98 machine there are not problems at all using the same ISP.

CD>   I have also tried a couple of other SMTP servers I have legitimate
CD>   access to, but no go.
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Re[2]: Sentence on download.com

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hallo Tony!

on Monday, April 24, 2000, 7:37:48 PM, you wrote:

TB> This message: 24/04/2000 18:35 GMT.

TB> On 24 April 2000 at 13:12:45 GMT -0400 (which was 18:12 where I live)
TB> Paula ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) typed:

PF>> We need something Madison Avenue punchy.
ok. lets think:

what do we all like about the bat?
why do we use the bat and not ?
which features are best implemented in the bat?

lets collect some answers and the slogan will appear in our mind ;)





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Re[2]: Sentence on download.com

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hallo Steve!

on Monday, April 24, 2000, 5:10:41 PM, you wrote:

SL> Monday, April 24, 2000, 8:00:01 AM, Allie wrote:
>>  I like that. My only problem is that it lacks that nice and true
>> winning word 'automation'. TB! *does* offer a level of automating
>> functionality that far exceeds that of any other client that I know of.

SL> Compared to telnetting to the POP port all mail clients are automated.
so whats the point? ah, you just wanted to answer him. ok...




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Re: OT: Re: Vote for The Bat!

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hallo Christopher!

on Tuesday, April 18, 2000, 9:52:21 PM, you wrote:

CJT> Hello Steve,
CJT> On Tuesday, April 18, 2000 you wrote:

>> With PMMail a close 2nd.  Hmmm, how did that link get there!?  :)

CJT> By the way, could anyone enlighten me? I always thought that PMMail is
CJT> the other name of Pegasus Mail. Is this wrong?
yep. the bat is a reason to change from PMail, to say something to
describe PMmail (it is quite similar, but the developement stopped
long and started some time ago as i read..)




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Re: LinuxBat now!

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hallo Christian!

on Saturday, April 15, 2000, 5:44:29 AM, you wrote:

CD> Hello TBUDL,

CD>   I prefer Linux, I NEED The Bat! for my work. How do we make this
CD>   port happen? I mean, I work for Opera Software, we are doing a Linux
CD>   port of our browser because we see a market there.

CD>   The Bat! would wipe the competition away on that platform in a week,
CD>   and people would pay. I would, a lot would because most e-mail
CD>   software on Linux...ummm...sucks? :)
so do the following: talk to the guys at ritlab, help them porting,
throw away (i mean FAR away) that kind of mail-client you wrote for
opera (and throw that newsreader-part even further beyond the edge of
this world), loosely integrate the bat into opera (no Steve, not
integrate, i mean establish a connectivity interface which works in
linux too (in windows it is already implemented as we know), but do
so, that if you like you can tightly integrate it for set-top-boxes
and you are done..

do the same with xnews (the windows one http://xnews.3dnews.net/ (you
see steve, i didn't attach the file! ;)

but all this isn't possible with the manpower opera has. IMHO opera
lacks a chief designer... they have good coders, but i cannot see a
direction in interface and a vision for this browser...

i did it again... please beware of the off-topic trap when
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Re[2]: strange feature request

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hallo Allie!

on Friday, April 14, 2000, 9:59:50 PM, you wrote:

AM> On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 23:49:35 +0400, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote:

>>> >> http://ftp.dresden-online.com/~perler/files/shot.gif

>> This link will never work;-) You link to ftp site via http protocol...

AM> Actually it did work for me. It showed a capture of a poupup
AM> window screaming "File not found". :))) Must be Windows making sense out
AM> of the nonsense, one of it's qualities. :)
as i wrote, its more apache which, well configured, can be very
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Re[2]: strange feature request

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hallo Alexander!

on Friday, April 14, 2000, 9:49:35 PM, you wrote:

AVK> Hi there!

AVK> On 14 Apr 00, at 19:26, Patrick Erler wrote
AVK> about "Re[2]: strange feature request":

>> >> http://ftp.dresden-online.com/~perler/files/shot.gif

AVK> This link will never work;-) You link to ftp site via http protocol...

hihi, just try... apache made it happen (i just wanted to link via
ftp, than remembered that i didn't put the file into the ftp-folder
but my personal www path and changed the URL...)






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Re[2]: another feature request

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hallo Steve!

on Friday, April 14, 2000, 8:55:21 PM, you wrote:

SL> Friday, April 14, 2000, 11:51:19 AM, Patrick wrote:
>> hallo TBUDL!

>> aehm. could we have a *plonk* hotkey? 

>> just kidding, really. just couldn't resist %}

SL> CNTL-SHIFT-F
i knew you would write this 




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another feature request

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hallo TBUDL!

aehm. could we have a *plonk* hotkey? 

just kidding, really. just couldn't resist %}


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Re[2]: strange feature request

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hallo Steve!

on Friday, April 14, 2000, 7:32:34 PM, you wrote:

SL> Friday, April 14, 2000, 10:24:59 AM, Patrick wrote:
>> when i send an attachement i'm joe user as everyone else. and as joe user i
>> asked for a feature. you wouldn't implement it because you think that your
>> way of doing things should be my way too. so do.

SL> Incorrect.  I don't add features that abuse the system nor would I include
SL> features which are better left to another client.

SL> SMTP was never intended to transfer large files.

SL> FTP is not something email programs should touch.  They are /email/
SL> clients, not /FTP/ clients.  That is why when you clicked on the link it
SL> either went to the browser which was configured or, in my case, to an /FTP/
SL> client, to get the file.

i heard your opinion. now start talking to real world users.

and another: why do you use the bat? with all these tasks it can manage
which is better left to other clients. an adress book - why doesn't
it access a PIM? an image viewer: it should use windows default one.
and, ouh, it can even be a mailing list host. and a mail server. and
you can even /write/  mail?!!

it is absolute legitime to expand a program - and it is not to do so. so
lets stop the discussion here. it might get selfish...




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Re[2]: strange feature request

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hallo Allie!

on Friday, April 14, 2000, 7:18:00 PM, you wrote:

AM> On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 19:05:42 +0200, Patrick Erler wrote:

>> dear mister erler!

>> we still waiting for your offer. you said its better to not attach
>> them to the msg but we should click on the words above. all we got is
>> this:

>> http://ftp.dresden-online.com/~perler/files/shot.gif


>> as we see you are not able to send a simple attachement, we decided
>> to give the 3.500.000 $ order to you competitor.

AM> ROTFLMAO!!! OK, you win. :) Ignorance is a hell of thing but in
AM> the interest of keeping customers, yes, they're always right. :

AM> The link really should have been:
AM> ftp://ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/beta/tb142b17.zip

AM> Don't let the typo detract from the fundamental point I'm
AM> supporting. :)
but isn't this the killer argument for a feature in "the bat" - to do it
spastic-proof? ;)

PAT




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Re[2]: strange feature request

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hallo Steve!

on Friday, April 14, 2000, 7:11:29 PM, you wrote:

SL> Friday, April 14, 2000, 9:59:13 AM, Patrick wrote:
>> ok, so lets have a plugin which makes this as simply for /me/ as drag
>> 'n droping the attachement on to the message, ok?

SL> Why?  If you're the one creating the attachment it is a simple matter of
SL> placing it somewhere accessible and making the link.  Correct me if I'm wrong
SL> but you're the professional, right?  This isn't like hacking together a perl
when i send an attachement i'm joe user as everyone else. and as joe
user i asked for a feature. you wouldn't implement it because you
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Re[2]: strange feature request

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hallo Allie!

on Friday, April 14, 2000, 6:49:33 PM, you wrote:

AM> On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 18:38:07 +0200, Patrick Erler wrote:

SL>>> FTP.  Better.
>> ok. so please explain a 40 year old woman in simple words, how to
>> fetch a file from a ftp-server. standard windows-nt configuration
>> please.

AM> ftp://ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/beta/TB142b17.zip

AM> Double click on the link and you'll get the lates TB! beta via
AM> ftp. When the download dialog comes up choose the desktop to download it
AM> to.

AM> That should be simple enough. :)

dear mister erler!

we still waiting for your offer. you said its better to not attach
them to the msg but we should click on the words above. all we got is
this:

http://ftp.dresden-online.com/~perler/files/shot.gif


as we see you are not able to send a simple attachement, we decided
to give the 3.500.000 $ order to you competitor.

sincerely,

rockefeller inc.

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Re[2]: strange feature request

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hallo Steve!

on Friday, April 14, 2000, 6:48:28 PM, you wrote:

SL> Friday, April 14, 2000, 9:38:07 AM, Patrick wrote:
>> ok. so please explain a 40 year old woman in simple words, how to
>> fetch a file from a ftp-server. standard windows-nt configuration
>> please.

SL> Sure.

SL> Click here: 
:)

ok, so lets have a plugin which makes this as simply for /me/ as drag
'n droping the attachement on to the message, ok?





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Re[2]: strange feature request

[Patrick Erler]

hallo Steve!

on Friday, April 14, 2000, 6:27:06 PM, you wrote:

SL> Friday, April 14, 2000, 9:12:32 AM, Patrick wrote:
>> gif = png;

>> better?

SL> FTP.  Better.
ok. so please explain a 40 year old woman in simple words, how to
fetch a file from a ftp-server. standard windows-nt configuration
please.

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Re[2]: strange feature request

[Patrick Erler]

hallo Steve!

on Friday, April 14, 2000, 5:50:10 PM, you wrote:

SL> Friday, April 14, 2000, 8:21:13 AM, Patrick wrote:
>> more and more i send scanned attachements via email, how about a small
>> scan-plugin, nothing complicated, twain-interface, greyscale,
>> autmoatic gif-compression...

>> opinions?

SL> Stop sending them in a format which is unsuited to the task.
always nice to hear your opinion... :)

gif = png;

better?



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strange feature request

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hallo TBUDL!

more and more i send scanned attachements via email, how about a small
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autmoatic gif-compression...

opinions?

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Re: Windows 2000 compatibility

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hallo Benoit!

on Friday, March 31, 2000, 11:45:27 AM, you wrote:

BD> Hi,
BD> I've at home and at work two PCs with under Windows 2000 Server.
BD> At work, no problem to run The Bat! 1.41 (Beta 3)
BD> At home, The same version (and others 1.42 betas) crashes
BD> systematically. The hardware is roughly the same on the two machines.
mh. no poblems here (w2k 2195 us). could you describe your hardware?






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version 2

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hallo TBUDL!

just the question to the develeopers, when can we expect v2?


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Re[2]: viewing gifs in bat

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hallo Roel!

on Thursday, March 16, 2000, 4:06:39 PM, you wrote:


R> Hi Patrick

R> On Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:00:22 +0100GMT
R>(which was 16/03/2000, 16:00 +0100GMT for me),

R> you wrote:

PE>> hallo TBUDL!

PE>> is it possible to view gifs with the (windows-)associated program, in
PE>> this case acdsee, by doubleclicking it? i just can't find an option...

R> go to the 'options'-menu & select 'external image_viewer'
R> That'll open up the default program...
i can see again! i can see again! 




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hallo TBUDL!

is it possible to view gifs with the (windows-)associated program, in
this case acdsee, by doubleclicking it? i just can't find an option...


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Re[2]: Leave Messages on Server Issues

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hallo Simon!

on Monday, March 13, 2000, 11:31:05 AM, you wrote:


S> How-do-you-do,

S> Blimey (no he didn't) posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] making the following 
comments:

 "crtl-shft-alt-F12-enter-numlock-esc-D"

S> Good God! My fingers are groaning at the idea of it! And this is a valid
S> _shortcut_? :) 'carpophalangeal contortionism' perhaps?
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Re[2]: storing mail

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hallo Paula!

on Saturday, March 04, 2000, 4:33:27 AM, you wrote:

PF> On Friday, March 03, 2000, Patrick Erler wrote:

PF>>> I looked at the web site, but I don't see an explanation of how it can
PF>>> be used to store mail from anything but Outlook. Could you explain?

>> it simply sucks (or zoots as they say) anything in, via clipboard,
>> outlook synchronization or import (and zoot even knows which website i
>> vistited, no matter if with opera or explorer... cool). as import
>> options you have newsgroup and email. it looks like it is quite
>> format-independent. it just extracts the infomration it needs...

PF> Just to be perfectly clear before I go to the trouble of trying to space
PF> on hard drive to squeeze in another program, how are you importing
PF> messages from The Bat?
menu: file|import|email and then point to the *.msb file you want to
import... the best is to recreate the folder structure of the acount
you would like to import first... all your mail is then searchable in
a /very/ fast manner...

if you don't like the program, it is quite easy to uninstall it...

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Re[2]: storing mail

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hallo Paula!

on Friday, March 03, 2000, 7:28:09 AM, you wrote:

PF> On Thursday, March 02, 2000, Patrick Erler wrote:

>> you MUST try Zoot for storing mail! its somehow cool.. just try it!

>> http://www.zootsoftware.com/z4intro.htm

>> file|import|mail

PF> I looked at the web site, but I don't see an explanation of how it can
PF> be used to store mail from anything but Outlook. Could you explain?
it simply sucks (or zoots as they say) anything in, via clipboard,
outlook synchronization or import (and zoot even knows which website i
vistited, no matter if with opera or explorer... cool). as import
options you have newsgroup and email. it looks like it is quite
format-independent. it just extracts the infomration it needs...

the lack of a help-file is quite problem, but you can download an
archive which puts their knowledge-base and their mailing-list into
zoot. what is simple impresive is that almost every queston people ask
is answered with "yes, do it like this.." and almost never with "we
plan this for the next release".

another megaplus is that almost every function has a hotkey.

since yesterday i simple suck all information i find into zoot and
later, when i like, i organize them into projects and folders or find
them with their superfast searchengine. its a dream...



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storing mail

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hallo TBUDL!

you MUST try Zoot for storing mail! its somehow cool.. just try it!

http://www.zootsoftware.com/z4intro.htm

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Re[4]: Drag mail to the desktop perhaps?

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hallo Patrick!

on Wednesday, March 01, 2000, 7:17:07 PM, you wrote:

PE> hallo Andrew!

PE> on Tuesday, February 29, 2000, 11:32:47 AM, you wrote:



PF>>> Well, I happen to be struggling at the moment with trying to find some
PF>>> efficient way of dealing with information overload from the various
PF>>> internet sources. If only mailers and newsreaders had the capability to
PF>>> export in a database format without alot of parsing needed. The Web is
PF>>> hopeless, of course. (sigh)

AB>> A program that might be useful here is zoot. It seems to be designed
AB>> for exaclyt this purpose, though it is quirky in it's terminology. At
AB>> the moment, version 4 is finished, but not the helpfile, so the only
AB>> functioning support is a user group mailing list. These factors might
AB>> not put off people here. I have played with it a little, but was
AB>> ultimately defeated by the lack of help, and the complexities of
AB>> transferring stuff from Ecco (now defunct) which was my intelligent
AB>> dustbin of choice for years.

AB>> Try www.zootsoftware.com
PE> how did you subscrive to the mailinglist? i just can't find a link...
just found out...

impressive program.. strange too... but its hybrid 16/32bit... but at
first glance it behaves well :) i hope i get used to it... do you know
similiar programs...?


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Re[3]: Drag mail to the desktop perhaps?

[Patrick Erler]

hallo Andrew!

on Tuesday, February 29, 2000, 11:32:47 AM, you wrote:



PF>> Well, I happen to be struggling at the moment with trying to find some
PF>> efficient way of dealing with information overload from the various
PF>> internet sources. If only mailers and newsreaders had the capability to
PF>> export in a database format without alot of parsing needed. The Web is
PF>> hopeless, of course. (sigh)

AB> A program that might be useful here is zoot. It seems to be designed
AB> for exaclyt this purpose, though it is quirky in it's terminology. At
AB> the moment, version 4 is finished, but not the helpfile, so the only
AB> functioning support is a user group mailing list. These factors might
AB> not put off people here. I have played with it a little, but was
AB> ultimately defeated by the lack of help, and the complexities of
AB> transferring stuff from Ecco (now defunct) which was my intelligent
AB> dustbin of choice for years.

AB> Try www.zootsoftware.com
how did you subscrive to the mailinglist? i just can't find a link...


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Re[2]: RITLABS interview almost...

[Patrick Erler]

hallo Steve!

on Monday, January 10, 2000, 10:23:17 PM, you wrote:

SL> Monday, January 10, 2000, 1:09:39 PM, Wolfgang wrote:
>> I often have more than 20 windows active inside Opera, and
>> they are easy to work with. Try to do that using IE/NS and
>> the task bar. For me, it's annoying.

SL> And how, exactly, does MDI help?  Personally I rarely, if ever, use the
SL> taskbar in non-MDI applications.  What is the difference between using 20
SL> windows inside an MDI instead of just 20 windows instead of the fact that
SL> you're confined to the MDI and cannot really separate those windows for better
SL> use of the dekstop real estate?
in opera you can use 1-key combinations (aeh? ;) ) for switching
between windows. that means you have the left hand at the keyboard and
use the button 1 and 2 for going for- and backward between the windows
and z and x (with the thumb) for going for- and backward _within_ the
windows. combined with the far superior cache-handling and so much
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hallo guys!

have a look at this:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/991220-09.html

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Re[2]: re's and regexp's

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hallo Dirk!

on Saturday, December 18, 1999, 2:41:58 PM, you wrote:

DH> Hi Peter,

DH> On Sat, 18 Dec 1999 12:38:23 +0100, you wrote:

DH> [...]

PS>> but the subject shows at the end a CRLF displayed as two additional
PS>> black boxes. As i found out now how to put quotes into strings (i
PS>> thought i've tried that earlier...) i finally applied your
PS>> suggestion to not use a QT and doubled the quotes: 

PS>> %subject=""%subject="Re: 
%SETPATTREGEXP=""(?i)((Re|Aw)\:\s*)*(.*)""%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=""%OSUBJ""%SUBPATT=""3"""

PS>> 
PS>> That seems to work :-)

DH> Great :-)

DH> I use this (Antwort|Antw|Re|Aw|FW) for searching. But one Problem i
DH> have.

DH> Some Mailing list have the mailinglistname in the Subject. I give an
DH> example:

DH> Antwort: Re: [Palm] Antwort: [Palm] Re: [Palm] FlashPro und Palm Update

DH> how can i strip these [Palm]. If i try

DH> (Antwort|Antw|Re|Aw|[Palm]|FW)

DH> this do not work.

(Antwort|Antw|Re|Aw|\[Palm\]|FW)

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Re[3]: Some things about 1.38

[Patrick Erler]

hallo MaXxX!

on Tuesday, December 14, 1999, 8:31:49 PM, you wrote:

M> At Tuesday, December 14, 1999, 12:36:44 PM, Oleg stitched together the lines below:

OZ>> Ĺ.T.M!  (don't  try  to  understand,  it's in russian). Just looked at
OZ>> Message/Specials and found there:

M> Am I wrong, or was this 3-letter acronym a very harsh and rude one? :>
as at least we here in the ex-gdr know - the russians have the by far
best curses - every south-bronx ghettoboy is mamas favorite compared to
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Re[2]: bug in 1.38 (maybe even earlier)

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hallo Januk!

on Saturday, December 11, 1999, 8:19:28 PM, you wrote:

JA> Hello Patrick,

JA> How about shift-alt-F2...that sends from all accounts. Unfortunately
JA> it doesn't check mail.
sure, but that wasn't the question (read some msgs before)...

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Re[2]: bug in 1.38 (maybe even earlier)

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hallo Paula!

on Saturday, December 11, 1999, 7:23:00 AM, you wrote:

PF> On Thursday, December 09, 1999, Patrick Erler wrote:

>> sending queued mail via the menu does send the queued mail of the
>> current acount, fine :), and tells me that i can do the same when i
>> press shift-f2 - but when i do this it tries to send ALL queued mail
>> from all accounts. not too bad but at least the menu-entry isn't
>> right...

PF> I use SHIFT-F2 alot and it always sends only from the active account. I
PF> tried it again just now with the same result. Are you using a DUN
PF> connection and is TB dialing to make a connection before sending? Is
PF> anything queued to be sent from other accounts?
no and no.

but i just realized that when i press shift-f2 all other accounts
do not send but receive mail... mh... but when using the menu only the
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Re[4]: 1.38 bug

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hallo Bootsy!

on Friday, December 10, 1999, 12:24:14 AM, you wrote:

B> Hi Patrick,

B> forgot your bablefish? ;)
it had a bier too much yesterday...
PE>> ok, this is clearly a betriebssystem-question %-}

B> Peace & B Wild,
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Re[2]: 1.38 bug

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hallo Roel!

on Thursday, December 09, 1999, 9:25:25 PM, you wrote:

R>  \\\|///
R>  / ~ _ \
R> (- O o -)
R> --oOOo-(_)-oOOo---
R> Hello Patrick,

PE>> hallo TBUDL!

PE>> my 1.38 bat is crashing quite often. especially when sending mail
PE>> to 2 accounts simultaneously, canceling sends, fetching mail stuff
PE>> like this (means haveing a slow line and clicking wildly around :) ).
PE>> it always ends in an "Access violation at ^$*^(&^:, press ok...

PE>> if anyone else has the same feeling that 1.38 is quite unstable i
PE>> would try to repeat the crashes and write a bugreport...

R> here it just freezes my entire system...
R> happens a lot when there's lot of processor activity (like
R> decoding/encoding mp3's...)
ok, this is clearly a betriebssystem-question %-} but happend this
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bug in 1.38 (maybe even earlier)

[Patrick Erler]

hallo TBUDL!

sending queued mail via the menu does send the queued mail of the
current acount, fine :), and tells me that i can do the same when i
press shift-f2 - but when i do this it tries to send ALL queued mail
from all accounts. not too bad but at least the menu-entry isn't
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1.38 bug

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hallo TBUDL!

my 1.38 bat is crashing quite often. especially when sending mail
to 2 accounts simultaneously, canceling sends, fetching mail stuff
like this (means haveing a slow line and clicking wildly around :) ).
it always ends in an "Access violation at ^$*^(&^:, press ok...

if anyone else has the same feeling that 1.38 is quite unstable i
would try to repeat the crashes and write a bugreport...

if not...

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smartcard

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hallo!

i asked that already but got no answer.. has anybody ever used a
smartcard reader for the pgp passphrase and if yes how?


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Re[2]: filter order

[Patrick Erler]

hallo Ali!

on Wednesday, November 03, 1999, 4:35:47 PM, you wrote:

AM> Hi all,

AM> On Wednesday, November 03, 1999, 10:14:04 AM (-5 GMT), Patrick scribbled:


>> in which order get the rules in the filtering office applied to a
>> message. the reason i ask is, that in pmmail98 i filtered every mail
>> and the last rule was "move to folder SPAM". in the bat this seems not
>> to work...

AM> The filtering is done in the order in which the filter rules appear,
AM> i.e., from the top of the list to the bottom. I've confirmed this by
AM> manipulating the order to achieve my filtering. The spam filter is the
AM> last entry in my list. Works beautifully except for the 1 or 2 spam
AM> messages that are addressed to me personally.

cold you describe the principles of you spam-filtering. metbe i have
to change something compared with pmmail..


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filter order

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hallo!

in which order get the rules in the filtering office applied to a
message. the reason i ask is, that in pmmail98 i filtered every mail
and the last rule was "move to folder SPAM". in the bat this seems not
to work...

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Re[3]: check mail for all not working?

[Patrick Erler]

hallo Claudius!

on Wednesday, November 03, 1999, 3:37:26 PM, you wrote:

CR> Hi,

>>> this option is unchecked in all accounts. as i just realize, the
>>> bat doesn't check just 4 of 8 accounts, it checks sometimes 4,
>>> sometimes 1, sometimes 3 acccounts with out a system...

CR>  Using  "check  all  Alt-F2"  in  the  drop  down from the blue "check
CR>  emails" button checks all 5 accounts here.
CR>  Using  just  the  blue  "check  emails"  button checks only the first
CR>  account here and the keys + checks all 5 again.

no it does not here. :( thats what i reported...




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Re[2]: check mail for all not working?

[Patrick Erler]

hallo Ralf!

on Wednesday, November 03, 1999, 1:50:20 PM, you wrote:

RB> Hi Patrick,

RB> you wrote on Wednesday, November 03, 1999, 13:33:23:

>> if the "check mail for all" function is supposed to check all accounts
>> with one click it doesn't work here. it just checks 4 of my current 8
>> accounts in the bat...

RB> In Account Properties - Options, make sure that "Ignore 'Check All
RB> Accounts' request" is not ebnabled.
this option is unchecked in all accounts. as i just realize, the bat
doesn't check just 4 of 8 accounts, it checks sometimes 4, sometimes
1, sometimes 3 acccounts with out a system...


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check mail for all not working?

[Patrick Erler]

hallo !

if the "check mail for all" function is supposed to check all accounts
with one click it doesn't work here. it just checks 4 of my current 8
accounts in the bat...

what can i do?

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Re[4]: PGP and auto decrypt - was Re: New proposed ideas / features for The Bat

[Patrick Erler]

hallo Mark!

on Tuesday, October 26, 1999, 6:31:17 PM, you wrote:

MA> Hi Patrick,

MA> Tuesday, October 26, 1999, 4:21:24 PM, you wrote:


PE>> mh.. just had a look at the screenshots. they claim to be pmmail2000
PE>> shots but actually show pmmail/98 at the top of the window... seems
PE>> that not so much has changed... and we aliens outside of the US don't
PE>> get the PGP-version either... ;(

MA> You  can if you lie on the form and use a .com address :) but it seems
MA> little changed from PMM98 even the unlock password is the same

no, usualy this is not enough. i have a .com email as you see and lie
usualy ;) but they resolve the ip the request is sent from and this
resolves in my case to ...nikoma.de which leads them to the complete
wrong assumption that i'm not in the US... ;))


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Re[2]: PGP and auto decrypt - was Re: New proposed ideas / features for The Bat

[Patrick Erler]

hallo Ali!

on Tuesday, October 26, 1999, 4:59:26 PM, you wrote:

AM> Hi all,

AM> On Tuesday, October 26, 1999, 9:10:47 AM (-5 GMT), Patrick scribbled:

 where did you get /this/ version from? i waited for a year for a new
 version of PMmail but eventualy bought the bat last week... mh...

SL>>> PMMail2000 was released Oct. 15th after PMMail98 and PMMail/2 were sold
SL>>> from Southsoft to BSW.
>> and where can i get it from? a search for pmmail and bsw didn't
>> help...

AM> The link is:

AM>  http://www.blueprintsoftwareworks.com/


mh.. just had a look at the screenshots. they claim to be pmmail2000
shots but actually show pmmail/98 at the top of the window... seems
that not so much has changed... and we aliens outside of the US don't
get the PGP-version either... ;(


PAT

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Re[2]: PGP and auto decrypt - was Re: New proposed ideas / features for The Bat

[Patrick Erler]

hallo Steve!

on Tuesday, October 26, 1999, 3:51:23 PM, you wrote:

SL> Tuesday, October 26, 1999, 3:03:15 AM, Patrick wrote:
>> where did you get /this/ version from? i waited for a year for a new
>> version of PMmail but eventualy bought the bat last week... mh...

SL> PMMail2000 was released Oct. 15th after PMMail98 and PMMail/2 were sold
SL> from Southsoft to BSW.
and where can i get it from? a search for pmmail and bsw didn't
help...


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Re[2]: PGP and auto decrypt - was Re: New proposed ideas / features for The Bat

[Patrick Erler]

hallo Steve!

on Tuesday, October 26, 1999, 8:51:50 AM, you wrote:

SL> Monday, October 25, 1999, 4:55:03 PM, Leif wrote:
>> Even though none of my PGP encrypted messages had anything damaging or
>> even important in them, I am glad that TB didn't automatically decrypt
>> and/or store the decrypted versions.

SL> I meant automatically when the message is loaded.  It wil still ask for
SL> your PGP password.  There is no need to leave a decrypted message on the HD if
SL> TB! did it all automatically and seamlessly.  Take a look at how PMMail2000
SL> Professional does it.  Much nicer than TB!.  That is what I meant.  When you

where did you get /this/ version from? i waited for a year for a new
version of PMmail but eventualy bought the bat last week... mh...



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Smartcards

[Patrick Erler]

hallo!

i would like to store my PGP passphrase onto a smartcard, does anyone
know how to do this? I only get an errormessage whne selecting the
menuentries "smartcard..."



PAT

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problems with messages PGP signed by me

[Patrick Erler]

Hi!

I have trouble with signing and checking messages...

When I send a message to myself and sign the WHOLE message with PGP
and check the received message i get a "not valid".

If I do the same with just a BLOCK - everything is fine.

I suspect that the bat is changing the message when it sends it - i
just can't find out how... (character table translation?)

any ideas?



PAT

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