Relay personality in Thebat
Hi all, I have my email setup to send via gmail's smtp server in Eudora via its relay personality feature. How do I acumplish this in Thebat home 3.65.03? Pranav Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Unable to get verbal feedback on message header prompts while composing a message
Hi all, This message is particularly relevant for screen reader users. I am using Jaws for Windows v7 and Thebat v3.65.03 home adition. I am unable to hear prompts like to, subject while I compose anew message when I tab from field to field. do the follwoing to duplicate this problem. 1. Start Thebat. 2. Choose message then new message. 3. Try tabbing from field to field. No prompt is heard. What am I doing wrong? System configuration OS=Windows 2000 professional all updates applied ram=1GB Screen reader = Jaws for Windows v7 -- Pranav Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Relay personality in Thebat
Hi Alexander and all, snip Erm... what is a relay personality? PL] It is a feature of Eudora that allows you to send an email using a different account. Quoting from Eudora's help, The Internet Service Provider (ISP) with whom you have your primary email account may not allow you to send messages through any other Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP) server but their own. If you have accounts at other ISPs or third-party email services, you may not be able to send mail from those accounts unless you use your primary ISP's SMTP servers. The SMTP relay feature allows you to send all your mail through your primary ISP's server. A personality is just a term for another account. For example, My email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] However, mydomain.com does not allow me to send email unless I am directly connected to the ISP. So I have a gmail account and setup that account in Eudora. Then, I set [EMAIL PROTECTED] to send email through that account. -- Pranav Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Relay personality in Thebat
it] I did not realise that that could be done thanks for the pointer. -- -- Hi Chris, snip What's wrong with setting the outgoing server to GMail's? PL] I did not realise that that could be done. thanks for the pointer. -- Pranav Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using a single set of filters with more than 1 account
snip Create a common filter and share it with the accounts that should use it. PL] Thanks Alexander. This is what I was looking for. I have already created a number of filters for an account. How do I move them to the common filters as you suggested? I tried right clicking the filters and using the cut tree option and then pasting the tree in the common filters but that did not seem to help. Pranav --- Pranav Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Using a single set of filters with more than 1 account
Hi all, I have multiple email addresses. I want to use a single set of filters to filter from those email addresses. How do I do this in TheBat v3.01 (professional)? OS=windows 2000 professional. Pranav --- Pranav Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Finding the folders icon in the filters dialog
Hi all, This question is directed specifically at screen reader users. How does one find the folders icon in the main filters dialog? I need to change the folder where the messages are being filtered too. The edit box displaying the folder is just before the strings edit box. There is supposed to be a folder icon according to the FAQ at http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/FAQ.html; but I can't find it. I did an automatic graphics label with jfw but it found no icons to label. Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Placing an address in the bcc field with a keystroke
Hi all, Can I place a particular address from TheBat's address book in the bcc field of a message via a keystroke? I have encountered a feature in Eudora and Outlook where if I have highlighted a particular address I can hit alt+b to transfer it to the bcc field. How is this done in TheBat? The list of addresses would be different all the time so creating a group of some kind is not an option. -- Pranav Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Viewing TheBat's activity while message sending and receiving
Hi all, How do I view TheBat's activity while it is sending and receiving messages? Other mail programs have windows where they display information such as the number of messages downloaded, messages left to download etc. -- Pranav Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Suggestion for better message list view reading
Hi Mark, snip Please add it to all of your messages above your name from now on. You nmean like this? Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Suggestion for better message list view reading
Hi Leif and all, 1. AsI have privately stated to one of the list members, I believe in following list rules. What surprises me about this entire cut line issue is that I was not asked to insert one when I first posted. 2. snip As for why you (Pranav) believe the list is rude and unfriendly, please, by all means show us where. PL] Leif, you wrongly addressed me which has already been pointed out by other list members. I will not comment about the friendlyness or unfriendlyness of the list; I have been able to extract useful information from the replies to my questions and have been able to advance my learning about TheBat. 3. I did read the welcome message. (1) Firstly, I suggest that the heading terms and conditions should be changed to list rules. In the upper part of the message, the reader is told that the second section is about list rules but when the reader reaches the second section, the section heading says Terms and conditions of use for TBUDL (The RULES!) The words the rules should come first to make things explicitly clear. I did however read the conditions. (2) Point h says It is also a good idea to place a -- (dash dash space CR) on a clear line before your sig so that it is automatically excluded from replies. PL] The tone of the above sentence seems to imply that the cut line is not compulsory which is why I did not include it. -- Pranav Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Suggestion for better message list view reading
Hi all, A couple of tips I found to improve navigation in the message list view. I have used these tips with JFW v4.51.119. 1. I reclassified the message list view to a list view. The class name was TListView or something like that. 2. I added a custom highlight color after highlighting a message. I found that this improved JFW's responsiveness in the message list view. system configuration OS=windows 2000 all updates applied MB=Intel 865GDF processor=2.4GHZ ram=512MB. Pranav Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Insertion pointer sticking in certain messages
Hi all, While scrolling in a message with my arrow keys, I find that the insertion pointer gets stuck at a certain point in the message. Repeatedly hitting the up or down arrow does not seem to move the insertion pointer. My screen reader (JFW v4.51.119) keeps repeating the same line of text. The text of the message below that line is visible. I have varified this by using the mouse. The solution to the problem seems to be to click on the text below that line. I can then read the subsequent part of the message. The view is set to vertical splitter or something like that. Could this be the cause of the problem? If yes, then what view should I try? Pranav Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
JFW [performs differently in different views
Hi all, I have found that JFW performs differently in different folder views. If I set my view to horizontal then jfw is very slow as in navigation among different mail boxes is very sluggish. If I however set the mail box to vertical splitter then navigation is fast. Has any one else encountered this problem? Pranav Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Suggestion for better message list view reading
Hi Dennis, snip What is JFW? Why use Eudora on this list? Why no cut line? JFW is an abbreviation for jaws for windows. It is a screen reader that verbalizes the contentsof a computer screen. See http://www.freedomscientific.com for more information. At this point, I am still evaluating TheBat. My primary email client is still Eudora. What do you mean by a Cut line? Pranav Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: JFW [performs differently in different views
Hi Andrew, As for the middle of the screen, it can be either horizontal or vertical. How do you turn off the preview pain? Pranav Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: JFW [performs differently in different views
Hi Allen, snip shift + ctrl + e or view, Message Auto View Ah, one of the first things I did was to uncheck auto view. Thanks Pranav Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Suggestion for better message list view reading
Hi Allen, snip Proper etiquette on this list is to have a cut line or signature delimiter. Your precede your signature with -- ( dot dot dash ). Most people on this list are, naturally, using The Bat!, and TB automatically truncates all text from the delimiter on down. Thanks for the explanation. I don't have a message signature so I don't think that I need a cut line. Pranav Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TheBat mailbox format
Hi all, In what format does TheBat store its mail boxes? Does it use the unix style mail format like Eudora? Pranav Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Screen readers and TheBat
Have you tried reclassifying the folder list? Pranav At 11:30 PM 9/30/2003, you wrote: is there a way that ritlabs can have the message list be a standard list view. sometimes when i arrow up and down the list of messages winow-eyes can't read the entire line, or it skipps over name/subject. or something, it's not usable. i have the bat on my lap top where this is an issue. on my desktop it's not so much of an issue, but if the list was a standard list view it wouldn't be an issue, and it would effect the use of the bat with whatever screen reader one chooses to use. i know that Hal 5.21 doesn't have an issue. Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 2.00.6 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Screen readers and TheBat
Hi Thomas, This is very encouraging. Thus far, I have not had any access issues. I was wondering if there were any settings that I should set to ensure the best operation with a screen reader? For a start, I have disabled the email ticker. I am using JFW v4.51.119. Pranav Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Application error when clicking on a particular help topic
Hi Thomas, I am sending a text dump of the screen. The error occurs when I hit enter on the item called Sorting Office - general information Pranav Help Topics: Title of this help project Contents Index Find Click a topic, and then click Display. Or click another tab, such as Index. Working with The Bat! Interface Langauge Messages Sending files over the Internet Address Book Configuring your mail account Mail Folders Message Templates Mail filtering (Sorting office) Sorting Office - general information Signal strings Filtering actions Filtering options Selective Download Filters Sorting office features Display Print... Cancel At 10:40 AM 9/25/2003, you wrote: Hello Pranav, On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 09:50:24 +0530 GMT (25/09/2003, 11:20 +0700 GMT), Pranav Lal wrote: When I click on the topic Sorting Office - general information I don't have this. I have: Account / Properties / General (and some other choices) and I have: Account / Sorting Office / Incoming (and some other choices) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Bit: Geschicktes Product Placement einer Brauerei in Computerliteratur und Zeitschriften. Message reply created with The Bat! 2.00.6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Application error when clicking on a particular help topic
Hi Thomas, snip I still don't get the AV. But that item starts with a screenshot. Mya that be causing an AV with your screenreader, who doesn't expect a screenshot in a help file? I am running JFW v4.51.119 and have not seen this happen in any other help system. For that matter, thus far, it happens only on this link. It could be the screen shot as you suggest. Pranav Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Screen readers and TheBat
Hi Andrew, snip The only other access adjustment I did was to disable the HTML viewer so that HTML messages are viewed in the plaintext editor How do I disable the HTML viewer? Pranav Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Screen readers and TheBat
Hi all, Is any one using Screen readers such as Jaws For Windows (http://www.freedomscientific.com) or Window Eyes (http://www.gwmicro.com) with TheBat? Pranav Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Importing Mail setup from Eudora v6
Hi all, can I import my entire mail setup from Eudora bv6 into TheBat? I have already imported my mail boxes but what about my address books and filters? Pranav Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Application error when clicking on a particular help topic
Hi all, I am running a demo version of TheBat. When I click on the topic Sorting Office - general information I get the following error Main Window Title: winhlp32.exe - Application Error The instruction at 0x010062c1 referenced memory at 0x039be000. The memory could not be read. Click on OK to terminate the program Click on CANCEL to debug the program OK Cancel How do I fix this? I am running Version 2.00.6 of TheBat. Pranav Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
