Re:G-Mail... Again!
Hello Thomas, On Sun, 26 Dec 2004, at 23:12:15 [GMT +0700] (1:23 PM here) you wrote: Well, I do have an issue with such things as theft. I do as well, but that was not my point. -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: If lawyers are disbarred and clergymen defrocked, doesn't it follow that electricians can be delighted, musicians denoted, cowboys deranged, models deposed, tree surgeons debarked and dry cleaners depressed? - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgpEGJYV9sfYH.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Expanding threads
Hello tbudl, I can't remember or find the keystroke to expand all messages in the threads, anyone recall this? -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: You cannot hurry up the growing of a plant by pulling the leaves. - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgpSiZIYz4iWd.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Expanding threads
Hello Peter, On Sun, 26 Dec 2004, at 20:00:18 [GMT +0100] (3:33 PM here) you wrote: ctrl+numpad* I've been searching for that forever, sheesh -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: As long as you do not move you can still choose any direction. - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgpJcojRflqV7.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:G-Mail... Again!
Hello Allie, On Sat, 25 Dec 2004, at 00:19:26 [GMT -0500] (4:38 AM here) you wrote: Again, I don't see a difference *from a money POV*. There is no difference from a money POV either way money is made and that's fine, the issue is with the privacy POV and I agree with him completely. -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: aibohphobia, n., The fear of palindromes. - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgpvKzuc9loJT.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:G-Mail... Again!
Hello Tony, On Fri, 24 Dec 2004, at 20:11:21 [GMT +] (4:47 AM here) you wrote: W They make money on it or they would't do it, simple as that. So you get up for work every day, do a hard days work whatever it is and you don't expect to get paid for it? Ok, if you read what is written, I did not judge if making money in this statement was a good thing or not, simply stating the fact that money was being made or they wouldn't be doing it, you read into it that I was saying making money on it was bad. *evil grin* What really fascinates me is the amount of people who want everything for nothing regardless of the cost to anyone else. Fact is you don't actually have to pay for software anymore if you really don't want to because there are hacks and cracks out there for pretty much anything, including TB. Realizing this, any paid for software is voluntary even if it's not shareware to anyone that wants to become aware and doesn't have issues with such things. I don't expect anything for nothing, if I like something I pay for it. If I can get something for nothing at the expense of the odd I think the point being made here by others and now myself is not the cost of having the odd advert to view (those are avoidable with filters) but the privacy issues of having your private mail (not list mail) scanned with Gmail. -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: aibohphobia, n., The fear of palindromes. - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgpNFhwsUK3Fa.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:G-Mail... Again!
Hello Tony, On Fri, 24 Dec 2004, at 09:57:28 [GMT +] (10:24 AM here) you wrote: TF I just don't like them to parse my emails for marketing purposes. I'm not sure they do. Everyone keeps on about G-Mail adverts etc. and I can't remember ever seeing any or anything else untoward. S, you're saying you have finally found the very first totally free email service? /sarcasm off They make money on it or they would't do it, simple as that. -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: Error in operator: add beer - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgp3xZOP5rPaJ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Connection
Hello Allie, On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, at 05:55:00 [GMT -0500] (9:14 AM here) you wrote: With these disabled you won't. :/ At least not when there are real problems with TB! server poling. However, the errors heard while using Windows will not lose their value. Yea, that did what I needed, thanks for the assist 8^) -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: But I thought YOU did the backups... - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgpkYIe9Z1gjp.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:G-Mail... Again!
Hello Allie, On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, at 21:10:27 [GMT -0500] (11:38 PM here) you wrote: my searches are done with TB!'s or ThunderBirds similar type quick search function. I've been looking at Thunderbird, looks fine but I ca't see why you would want to have it AND TB... Just curious. -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: Dachshunds are really small crocodiles with fur. - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgpSooxyqQIEk.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:copying msg with short headers
Hello Jan, On Wed, 22 Dec 2004, at 09:20:58 [GMT -0500] (10:00 AM here) you wrote: Is there any way of copying a msg to the clipboard so that it shows basic header info, i.e. from, to, date, subject w/o first saving msg as text file? View - RFC 822 headers, then cut and paste the message or if you have standard keyboard setup Shift-Ctrl-K, you'll have to turn it off again unless you want to always see them. -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: A computer scientist is someone who fixes things which aren't broken. - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgp1r7GkELmyr.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Connection
Hello Thomas, On Wed, 22 Dec 2004, at 21:02:40 [GMT +0700] (9:57 AM here) you wrote: I have this in the office. If I cannot connect to the server, I will get an error sound, that's all. TB will try again in 10 minutes (that's my setting). I don't get a pop-up. I don't understand your initial question. That's it exactly, I'd like not to hear an error unless it fails the second or third try, ie the way it works connecting with DUN. May seem strange but I actually listen to those sounds and hearing it all the time from TB makes me start to ignore it. -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: I've noticed that the press tends to be quite accurate, except when they're writing on a subject I know something about. (Keith F. Lynch) - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgpMFYRpGshVU.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:New Bayes spam plugin
Hello Ciprian, On Wed, 22 Dec 2004, at 15:49:56 [GMT +0200] (10:02 AM here) you wrote: Tried it. For awhile, it gave me good results, but after a month or so, it started to miss spam. It also has (in my case) the very nasty habit to create log files whereever it likes. The location of the log files are configurable: Options - Preferences - Anti Spam - Click on plugin - Configure. -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: You must be the change you wish to see in the world. -Ghandi - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgpOewnGa0AuC.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:copying msg with short headers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: MD5 Hello Jan, On Wed, 22 Dec 2004, at 13:41:26 [GMT -0500] (2:01 PM here) you wrote: Thanks. I know how to call full headers cut/paste. And saving msg to text file automatically does what I want. Problem is I don't actually want to save it to a file but to copy to clipboard stop. That's what I'm trying to accomplish. Hope I'm clear. Sorry but I have no idea what you are trying to do then, not cut and paste? You want to hit a key and have TB cut the headers to the clipboard for you so you don't have to do that? - -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - - Random Quote: One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor. - - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l - -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6 iQCVAwUAQcnE2Nf++W79nFLzAQEgMgQArq1JjPSVXKU75Hu9pdvuZzEnwikjJNVr rDET0IBk09IpzwKGbHVBPE+8WcH5m9XYdTXSfd6xuO5MF/H2+4vzOVWbIq4WqEbn fh7wlT3lSrzHD4NZai9hLPDqOxkXkYAFKPt43cB+/pQ7XUGpVXegYcujrVnoUEO9 BIcZht7OOFw= =K5xW -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Mark as read and notification...
Hello WilWilWil, On Wed, 22 Dec 2004, at 20:14:00 [GMT +0100] (2:49 PM here) you wrote: I'm not sure we understand each others : I don't want to disable my read confirm of my mails, I just want to never say to sender I've just read their mail... Account - Properties - Reading Confirmation - set your options there. -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: Age is important only if you're cheese or wine. - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgpCWT6tBtCCD.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Connection
Hello Allie, On Wed, 22 Dec 2004, at 17:20:53 [GMT -0500] (9:05 PM here) you wrote: Go into the Main preferences and in the 'System' section, go the the part titled 'When logging events, use system alarm sound for'. Disable the options there. I disabled warnings, let's see how that goes, I DO want to hear if there is a real problem. -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: 'First things first -- but not necessarily in that order' -- Dr Who - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgpqH1gNDYgR9.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Watched by
Hello tbudl, I have searched for and not found what 'watched by' is all about, I'd both like to know what it is about and where it is documented, if it is. Thanks all. -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: Ban the bomb. Save the world for conventional warfare. - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgpVHOPetIyyD.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
New Bayes spam plugin
Hello tbudl, Just installed and did some training on the new plugin, anyone else going to try it? Here's the link: http://www.lkcc.org:8500/index.php for those that didn't know. The documentation is well done. Have fun! -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: If you're happy and you know it, clunk your chains. - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgp9cPDk3rVep.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connection
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: MD5 Hello tbudl, I would love to see and option that says if you don't connect in x seconds ignore that and try again y times, if they all fail that's a failure. I suggest this because I've found that if TB is trying to check my mail and I cancel it and try again it usually connects instantly and is done so fast that I can't read what the screen says. Yes, it really does connect and complete, the status line tells me. - -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - - Random Quote: Disc space -- the final frontier! - - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l - -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6 iQCVAwUAQciLx9f++W79nFLzAQGXGQP5AZ8Wx7d4APfGWSrR2cyP8plNixEDfFiT r4civdAAZMziOfGPhDIDm4fEDoBf6BDbNv6Mq/R2ZP8CbIoYDwvI3g7ClUyhg0CZ e1fb7AJynMarGd9pxsvFbRk+gncEp8zNezs+OWCTqPok4y23bz+STubzEbsgcA+h 7cGgLePDSOo= =z8FA -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Spamming and Ritlabs...
Hello Sean, On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, at 21:26:34 [GMT +] (5:14 PM here) you wrote: Strange I never got it, maybe my exim/sa setup caught it :) No, he missed the little check mark you have to make to say don't send me your important spam or misinterpreted it, I didn't get any either but I'm very careful about reading those checks. -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: There is a wicked pretense that one has been informed. But no such thing has truly occurred! A mere slogan, an empty litany. No arguments are heard, no evidence is weighed. It isn't news at all, only a source of amusement for idlers. (Gibson-Sterling, The Difference Engine) - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgpTQVOE4zjae.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Connection
Hello Thomas, On Wed, 22 Dec 2004, at 07:10:02 [GMT +0700] (8:16 PM here) you wrote: Options / Network / (.) Dial-up / [X] Use existing Pause between dials: 10 secs Maximum number of tries: 10 Mine is greyed out with the top option being the only one not greyed, could it be because I removed my modem since I have no use for one? -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: If you got the words it does not mean you got the knowledge. - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgpjMaol9vqST.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Who's stealing from TB?
Hello Mica, On Thu, 16 Dec 2004, at 15:27:56 [GMT +0100] (8:49 AM here) you wrote: But XPlite trial is much smaller, safer and easier: www.litepc.com. Wow, was that a comercial or what? 8^) I downloaded XP lite and will let you guys know the results. -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: If lawyers are disbarred and clergymen defrocked, doesn't it follow that electricians can be delighted, musicians denoted, cowboys deranged, models deposed, tree surgeons debarked and dry cleaners depressed? - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgpC3xhjjvsTZ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello P.Johnson, On Thu, 16 Dec 2004, at 11:38:50 [GMT -0600] (8:55 AM here) you wrote: going into the Spam folder. After reading your message I will double-check the Spam folder from now on. Don't you guys use the plugin spam filter that comes with TB? I didn't trust it when I first installed it but I have been surprised how well it detects spam, I just let it do it's thing and occasionally help it out with mark as spam or the reverse. 80 gets deleted and 60 goes to junk, which I glance at before exiting TB. If you haven't tried it I highly recommend it, if you have bandwidth issues then I understand that you don't want to download the spam. If you just have issues with spam, I understand that too 8^) -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: For most men life is a search for the proper manila envelope in which to get themselves filed. -- Clifton Fadiman - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgp3a5tUo82Tn.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Who's stealing from TB?
Hello Watcher, On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, at 08:50:01 [GMT -0500] (11:14 AM here) you wrote: let you guys know the results. Result, xp lite now has a pro version that you pay for and of course removal of outlook is pro only. -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: Don't kiss an elephant on the lips today. - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgpI46OIg4nRV.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello P.Johnson, On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, at 10:43:27 [GMT -0600] (11:55 AM here) you wrote: be some problems with XP SP2 compatibility. Now I'm using K9 for spam filtering. I haven't heard of or used K9 so I can't speak to that but I'm running XP SP2 with baysit just fine. Not me, couldn't get it work properly, never caught me any spam, so I picked something else. I'd love to hear what else you picked and how you liked it. As far as getting it working, I was very confused at first and read up on it, once I realized it was a learning program it was easy. Here are my assumptions: It starts out with it's basic knowlege about spam, but each user and the users that send to them are different so it starts with a very safe ruleset, now you teach it. Set it up to put stuff in your junk box only (or at least I did) and not mark them as read, I set this at 80. Then any junk mail you find in your inbox you mark as junk and any NON junk mail you find in your junk box you mark as not junk and move it back. After very few emails it will sort your mail cleanly but since you are not having the junk mail marked as read you can see what junk mail you need to check, and what you have already gone through. This was fairly verbose, I hope it was what you needed to get going with BayesIt. Once you feel safe, just adjust the 'weight' and what goes to the trash and what goes to junk to decrease the amount you have to double check. -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: What luck for the rulers that men do not think. --Adolf Hitler - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgp62rF2Q5RaB.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Spam Filter (was Re: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: MD5 Hello Alexander, On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, at 19:25:25 [GMT +0100] (3:03 PM here) you wrote: I don't know of any desktop spam filter with Bayes analysis that comes Wow, that is strange to hear, it worked the instant I installed it, I trained it very little and it has been doing well. Of course I have NO email offers that I consider non-spam, I don't want to be 'kept up to date', when I need something I'll start looking, not get what someone sent to my desktop to sell me something. Maybe that is part of the reason? And you could download collections of spam mails from the internet, I agree, this is probably a bad idea. With different mail aliases (7) and accounts (2), I get the very same spam I don't have this issue for a spam filter to deal with. I'm sure that helps. If I start having problems, I'll download K9 as you suggested, it looks fine except that it's external which will be a bit more of a pain. - -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - - Random Quote: There are 3 kinds of people: those who can count those who can't. - - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l - -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6 iQCVAwUAQcM9N9f++W79nFLzAQEvxQP9Fn7XObtplIDhxc8D51hOFk/e9UhJPhgM 83TbWU/ljo/tNvAowxFQbQ/jahj/RbT/uihGj98WK1QrA7cu8Do5Htexon9IbpIC Afo9MFLAXpu38oBcB6qktK3GBieP+jmqblsjyG4iL/94VaaEUUo95gk++SmpWYXM N/YXtdvEuVg= =w5/a -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:OT: IM clients
Hello Marck, On Wed, 15 Dec 2004, at 11:35:59 [GMT +] (1:00 PM here) you wrote: However, having said that, we're veering way OT here and should continue this discourse on TBOT if it has any room left for expansion. True, but just to let you know I hadn't decided on an IM yet and I found this OT very useful, thanks all. -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: You cannot hurry up the growing of a plant by pulling the leaves. - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgpYXu9H212bf.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Who's stealing from TB?
Hello tbudl, Been lurking a while but now I have a question, Every time I restart windows I have to tell TB to go ahead and reassociate EML with TB, I have tried doing it by hand but no matter what it get's switched back somehow. Any suggestions as to who the very impolite app is that's stealing the association without asking? -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error. - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgprcY0d84Dw1.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Who's stealing from TB?
Hello Andrew, On Wed, 15 Dec 2004, at 20:59:53 [GMT -0500] (9:28 PM here) you wrote: Any other PIM manager competing for attention, like Palm Desktop? Nope, just outlook which I have uninstalled. Right click the desktop Internet Explorer icon and choose properties then programs There doesn't seem to be any reference to an email program in IE properties. Note below I'm using XP, maybe that's why? -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: I can read your mind, and you should be ashamed of yourself. - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgpJJH05dipAl.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Who's stealing from TB?
Hello Chris, On Wed, 15 Dec 2004, at 20:08:59 [GMT -0500] (8:50 PM here) you wrote: Are you logged in as the administrator when you do this? Well, I'm logged in as AN administrator if that's your question. -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: Invalid thought detected. Close all mental processes and restart body. - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgpQILfX5B89g.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TBUDL@THEBAT.DUTAINT.COM is a private mailing list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have not sent a message to this list for a LONG time... weeks, maybe a month yet I still get this message every day. Could we stop it now? Monday, January 10, 2000, 9:53:27 AM, MDaemon wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Actual-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk X-MDMailing-List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MDSend-Notifications-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Hosted-by: Duta Integrasi Pratama - Indonesia X-List-Command: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not a moderator or member of this list. Only a moderator or member may post to this list. - -- Watcher aka Bill DeVos |[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.aack.net/ | http://www.aack.net/watcher - - Beware of low-flying butterflies. - - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOHqEhm14vvNVqX4UEQJFpACg09nvgE97KeGWh/IU0ytHvvRVh+IAmwQC 8KREQfZ7FRlYxBCcBnkZilzn =28DK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: (No Subject)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Saturday, November 20, 1999, 7:18:59 AM, Ali wrote: Hi all, Steve Lamb wrote: Friday, November 19, 1999, 11:10:13 PM, tracer wrote: But the people who are in need of that filter probably donot know how to make one. Maybe steve can post one (g) Hey, I had no problem creating one! 8^) Filter / Incoming mail / New Name: RM: Steve Lamb (RM means ReMove) Source Folder: Inbox Filtering String #1: String: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Location: kludges Present: yes Actions tab Check Delete the message box HaaHaaHaa! Well done Steve! snip You know Steve, despite our differences on certain issues and our heated debates, on and off list that often disintegrate into behavioral issues and personal attacks tongue in cheek, I've never thought of constructing one of the above on you. Strange perhaps, but true. Through all that static of your abrasive style, you do get through to me and I listen.:) Your are clearly well informed and have informed opinions that I've certainly benefited from and used to hone my own final opinions on certain issues. Ok, you've convinced me to deactivate that filter for a while, I'll try again. 8^) Unfortunately I'm just one person that has gotten used to you and just as how you promote rules of netiquette, your tone and abrasive style does come into issue and is pretty much written about in the rules of netiquette but in a more subtle, general fashion since being abrasive and unfriendly comes in all sizes shapes and forms so they cannot be specific as saying for example that you shouldn't quote excessively in messages or send HTML mail to discussion lists. See: http://www.albion.com/netiquette/rule1.html Thank you very much! This is a rule that I know *I* need to be reminded to read on a regular basis. - -- Watcher aka Bill DeVos |[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.aack.net/ | http://www.aack.net/watcher - - Feel good? Don't worry; you'll get over it! - - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBODh8cW14vvNVqX4UEQJq0QCfeKmRrOmiaxjP76vBD5K2bDa9I3MAoNvV E7MBzRTVwXQLsDguCrIUnCYP =NzO9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: (No Subject)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sunday, November 21, 1999, 8:00:11 AM, Steve wrote: Sunday, November 21, 1999, 4:07:05 AM, Ali wrote: M$ comparison snipped Personally, I think politeness at the expense of accuracy of thought and communication is a detriment. It throws up illusions that everything is hunky-dory when, in fact, it is not. When the party in the grips of the illusion realizes that, it is far, FAR worse than just coming out, up front, and stating the case instead of pussy-footing around. Society has gotten a little *too* polite and it is time for it to change. I'd like to agree... and disagree with you. I absolutely hate "political correctness" which is just a fancy way of saying "lying to make the other person feel good" and I don't do it despite the fact that that decision has made my road rougher at times BUT that is still no excuse for me to NOT consider the feelings of the person I am communicating with. Considering your position and your apparent success in that position you have the ability to relate the facts to the other person without being offensive or condescending. I think all that "we" are asking is that you use that talent with us as well as you do with your customers. - -- Watcher aka Bill DeVos |[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.aack.net/ | http://www.aack.net/watcher - - Do you dream in colors or do you discriminate ? - - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBODiCHW14vvNVqX4UEQL/UQCgxgIZMD2N5TsE9Gzd4lHNIVXaGW0AnAmE G9c6itIOugD9k1Fxy+iVVh1h =4awY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
(No Subject)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have a few questions, first here is my template for new messages for the "thebat" list: ___ Template begin _ %SIGNCOMPLETE %TO="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" %Cursor - -- Watcher aka Bill DeVos |[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.aack.net/ | http://www.aack.net/watcher - - %COOKIE - - __ Template End ___ This template has 2 problems, one is that the cursor is in the to field instead of at the %Cursor position, is there a way to resolve this? Second is that the message starts out with a bunch of blank lines at the top. How do I get rid of them? My second item is that I would like to be able to hit a single keystroke (preferably either down or right arrow or something else without a modifier) that will always take me to the next message. The Ctrl-] keystroke comes close but when the folder is all read it generates an error sound instead of jumping to the next folder (any folder would be better than the error sound). I also have one suggestion, I would like to be able to quickly and easily add a cookie to my list of random quotes (cookie list). As it is I have to select several menu items, then scroll down to the bottom of the list, then hit enter, then paste the cookie. Is there a better way? Ok one more question, I have setup PGP to save my password for 2 hours yet TB continues to ask me for my password for each message. Have I misconfigured or is this a limitation enforced by TheBat? All suggestions welcome, all flames redirected to /dev/null. Please reply to me personally as well so that I don't miss the answer on the list. Thank you all for listening. - -- Watcher aka Bill DeVos |[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.aack.net/ | http://www.aack.net/watcher - - A day for firm decisions! Or is it? - - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBODNoMG14vvNVqX4UEQK2sQCg8bGnZVWKgkLutzvPwEZ61ZD/e/AAoPPG WY1DHaZvFtaEnNALALOBF3e1 =F0Ll -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[4]: OT: Computer Philosophy (was: Re[2]: THE BAT! Will it be a newsreader option ?)
On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 01:55:56 +0700 tracer [EMAIL PROTECTED] expounded: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 Hello Kevin, Tuesday, Tuesday, November 02, 1999, you wrote: Kevin Hi, Sunday, October 31, 1999, 10:09:38 AM, Paula wrote: a computer with a problem, which wants to waste my time trying to interpret its pouting silence or irritatingly cryptic outbursts. Rather like men. Rather like women, actually. Most of the men I know will state flat out what the problem is. Women, on the other hand, are the ones who go silent, pout and pull out that lovely line, "You know what's wrong!" Sure, uh-huh. Kevin In *my* experience, A larger percentage of women aren't as savvy with Kevin operating systems and their problems but tend to know the applications Kevin pretty well. They listen to what you say and appreciate your help. A larger Kevin percentage of men have some idea what they are doing with the OS, but they Kevin won't listen as closely and they try to act like they know more than they Kevin do. Kevin The real headache for tech support seems to be those guys that think they Kevin are guru's and know more about network, LAN, and mainframe support than the Kevin experts, when their only real experience is on their own PC's. They get Kevin torqued at things that don't happen the way they think they should (I'm not Kevin talking about real problems) and constantly complain and try to TELL you Kevin how things should be done. Kevin The clueless people actually are *usually* no big problem to help because Kevin they typically have easy problems to fix. It's just that they do tend to Kevin call you more often. But they do tend make for some funny stories to tell Kevin among the other techs and keep life interesting. :-) Kevin Thanks, Kevin Kevin Boylan Kevin Kevin Using The Bat! 1.36 Kevin Under Windows NT4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 3 I kind of agree with this and you ccan add that the guys who think they know in general try to fix it themselves making the problem worse then it was before they did that and then deny they did anything at all... I got a good compliment from a tech support person the other day, after a short conversation he said, "Yes! You have a clue, what a relief!". We then conversed on many subjects most not related to the problem (which we did solve) and after 15 minutes of non-related conversation I told him I had to go. He said, "You really helped me relieve some stress and smooth my day." I felt pretty good about that, it's nice to simply chat and help somebody out. PS. I'm male. -- Watcher aka Bill DeVos |[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.aack.net/ | http://www.aack.net/watcher - Black holes suck! - -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, click below and send the generated message. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: (SOT) Moo-ah, Met-ah, Med-ah and all related things...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friday, November 19, 1999, 11:31:07 PM, Thomas wrote: Hi Steve, on Saturday, November 20, 1999, 8:37:02 AM GMT+0800, Steve Lamb wrote: SL MUA stands for Mail Use Agent or Messaging User Agent. MTA is for Mail SL Transfer agent. There is a third, MDA, which stands for Mail Delivery Agent. [very good explanation skipped} For all those who have put Steve on the kill filter, please note that you've missed something very educational. Yes, this is the problem with people like Steve, they aren't stupid, just very irritating. You have to balance if the information received is worth the anti-social behavior that generally accompanies it. I'd also like to note that from my experience a "Steve" ages very well and becomes a considerable asset. I can't wait! 8^) Generally speaking if a "Steve" does make some good points someone that is willing to deal with his behavior will comment on it and the rest of us will get the good parts without the bad parts via quoted replies. Thank you for being willing to be that person. SL A lot of people have argued that an editor and a spell checker (for SL example) are required in producing mail and thus should be reimplemented by SL the authors of each individual email client. A lot of other people argue that SL separate tasks should be handled by separate programs. So how do I reconcile SL the need to combine some tasks (MUA/MTA/MDA) but not others (editor/spell SL checker) into an email client? FYI rumours have it that the well-advertised Version 2 will have an option "use external editor". I think you will agree with me that this would make everybody happy. I agree, the more a program is based on hooks into the code and the more modular the code the more customizable it will be and in general the better the program will be accepted because it can be customized to meet "my" needs. - -- Watcher aka Bill DeVos |[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.aack.net/ | http://www.aack.net/watcher - - Fine day to work off excess energy. Steal something heavy. - - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBODYpsm14vvNVqX4UEQIPkgCfRB8khmNRV0jGqVBFHlXJv4RkexMAoMMn 7I4N44MFZ3C7Qm83H9aiezGy =lrAm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: to all on the son's attachment thread....Thank you
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Thursday, November 18, 1999, 9:50:17 AM, Pasquale wrote:
Hello TBUDL,
Thanks to all, I had the save in separate directory checked ( I
think this was default ), so now I have show in line ticked.
Two other questions, the Attach folder is hidden in The Bat, but
viewable in windows explorer is this by design?, and lastly when
I
click on a url Bat launches IE5, how do I get it to launch Opera
instead?
I solved this problem by making Opera my default browser, now any
program not told otherwise brings up Opera... as it should. 8^) As
to the answer you are looking for, "Change what happens when you
doubleclick a url". Could this be another undocumented feature? If
not my way works well.
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