Re: auto-purge/compress of unread messages

[Thomas Schmidt]

Hi dAniel,

am Mittwoch, 18. Februar 2004, 17:05:12, schriebst Du:


T>> But it works only with already read messages. When there are more
T>> than 100 unread messages they will stay in the folder.

> This should work, if the folder belongs to an account:

> Account properties/Mail management/Deletion/[x] Purge unread messages

> Don't know for common folders, because you cannot setup that in the
> "Account" settings for those.

Does not work in common folders. What a pity.
But now I know the reason for this (mis)behaviour.

The folder "mailinglists" is a common folder in my
TheBat. So I have to put the folder "mailinglists" and all its
subfolders into an account.

Thank you for your answer!

Ciao, Thomas


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Re: auto-purge/compress of unread messages

[dAniel hAhler]

Hello bats,

on Wed, 18. Feb 2004 at 12:59:58 +0100 Thomas Schmidt wrote:

T> But it works only with already read messages. When there are more
T> than 100 unread messages they will stay in the folder.

This should work, if the folder belongs to an account:

Account properties/Mail management/Deletion/[x] Purge unread messages


Don't know for common folders, because you cannot setup that in the
"Account" settings for those.


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auto-purge/compress of unread messages

[Thomas Schmidt]

Does anybody know, how I can get this to work:

In an certain folder I collect messages of
email-lists. I read just a few of them. Most of them
will be unread.

The settings of the folder are:
Purge messages (keep only 100) and compress the folder
when shut down TheBat.

But it works only with already read messages. When
there are more than 100 unread messages they will stay
in the folder.

Thanks in advance for any hints.

Thomas

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Re: Compress on exit

[Gerard]

ON Friday, January 30, 2004, 11:28:53 AM, you wrote:

JS> Folder > Properties > Options > Compress on exit

JS> Does compress work, for each folder,  when I go from a folder to another,
JS> without leaving TB?
JS> With this option does time to leave a folder is more high?


Hi Jean,
  "EXIT" means, when you exit TB! like File|Exit or A+lt-X.
  Not when you move from folder to folder.

  Because it will purge and compress each folder on exit it will take
  longer to exit. This can be a problem when you are the kind of person
  that just presses the off switch on the computer and expect windows to
  exit and the computer to shut-off.

  Always use this option on the Inbox, because all mail first enters the
  inbox before it might get filtered to other folders.

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Re: Compress on exit

[dAniel hAhler]

Hello bats,

on Fri, 30. Jan 2004 at 16:10:08 +0100 Jean Site wrote:

JS>>> Folder > Properties > Options > Compress on exit
JS>>> Does compress work, for each folder,  when I go from a folder to another,
JS>>> without leaving TB?
JS>>> With this option does time to leave a folder is more high?
dh>> It will compress on exit, not on changing focus.
JS> Thanks shinE

I'm not shinE.. you should shine! :)

JS> Does it compress all the folders ?

No, only those which are set to do so. I would recommend to set your
Inboxes to be compressed on exit, because all your mail is received
there and then either moved or deleted, so they would have to be
"compressed out" from there.

AFAIK Inboxes are set compress-on-exit by default.

For manual compression (of all or selective folders) choose
Folder/Maintenance.. (which would be better put into Tools menu,
because it's not binded to current folder - IMHO).


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Re[2]: Compress on exit

[Jean Site]

Hello dAniel,

Friday, January 30, 2004, 1:48:16 PM, you wrote:

dh> Hello bats,

dh> on Fri, 30. Jan 2004 at 11:28:53 +0100 Jean Site wrote:

JS>> Folder > Properties > Options > Compress on exit
JS>> Does compress work, for each folder,  when I go from a folder to another,
JS>> without leaving TB?
JS>> With this option does time to leave a folder is more high?

dh> It will compress on exit, not on changing focus.

Thanks shinE

Does it compress all the folders ?

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Re: Compress on exit

[dAniel hAhler]

Hello bats,

on Fri, 30. Jan 2004 at 11:28:53 +0100 Jean Site wrote:

JS> Folder > Properties > Options > Compress on exit
JS> Does compress work, for each folder,  when I go from a folder to another,
JS> without leaving TB?
JS> With this option does time to leave a folder is more high?

It will compress on exit, not on changing focus.


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Compress on exit

[Jean Site]

Hi ,



Folder > Properties > Options > Compress on exit

Does compress work, for each folder,  when I go from a folder to another,
without leaving TB?
With this option does time to leave a folder is more high?

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Re: compress & purge upon close

[Gerrit Kruijer]

Hello Jonathan,

Thursday, September 4, 2003, 8:10:20 PM, you wrote:

Jonathan> When I close The Bat!, the program takes time to purge and
Jonathan> compress my folders. I no longer wish to do that
Jonathan> automatically upon close, but I can't seem to find the right
Jonathan> location to switch that behavior off. I've checked the
Jonathan> properties of several folders, and none have any of the "on
Jonathan> exit" boxes checked. Is there a global switch somewhere?
Jonathan> Can anyone remind me where to find it?

Oops. Too fast. Go to the folder, right-click with the mouse, choose
properties.
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Re: compress & purge upon close

[Gerrit Kruijer]

Hello Jonathan,

Thursday, September 4, 2003, 8:10:20 PM, you wrote:

Jonathan> When I close The Bat!, the program takes time to purge and
Jonathan> compress my folders. I no longer wish to do that
Jonathan> automatically upon close, but I can't seem to find the right
Jonathan> location to switch that behavior off. I've checked the
Jonathan> properties of several folders, and none have any of the "on
Jonathan> exit" boxes checked. Is there a global switch somewhere?
Jonathan> Can anyone remind me where to find it?

Right-click with the mouse on the folder.

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Re: compress & purge upon close

[Leif Gregory]

Hello Jonathan,

Thursday, September 4, 2003, 12:10:20 PM, you wrote:
JG> Best regards,

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Yes, uncheck the Account Properties / Options / Compress all folders
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compress & purge upon close

[Jonathan Gennick]

When I close The Bat!, the program takes time to purge and
compress my folders. I no longer wish to do that
automatically upon close, but I can't seem to find the right
location to switch that behavior off. I've checked the
properties of several folders, and none have any of the "on
exit" boxes checked. Is there a global switch somewhere?
Can anyone remind me where to find it?

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Re[3]: the bat! freezes when trying to compress/purge

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 On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, at 17:44:12 [GMT -0500]
 (which was 26/02/2003 (D/M/Y) 23:44 where I live) you wrote:

F> So I played it smart and first
F> exported all messages concerned by the future deletion to another
F> place. Then I deleted the .TBB and .TBI files. Relaunched The Bat!,
F> re-imported the messages


Surprisingly,  I  had  recently the same problem. I had never had it
before,  but  TB  crashed  when  compressing  the Inbox of one of my
accounts.  I  had  version 1.61, upgraded to 1.62i, but didn't work.
It  happened  after  some  HDD  problems,  so  the  files  might  be
corrupted, although they still could be used by other soft like Mailbag
Assistant.
Finally  I  received  your  postings, and the procedure above worked
fine. So thanks.



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Re: the bat! freezes when trying to compress/purge

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Fiber,

On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:44:12 -0500GMT (26-2-03, 23:44 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

RO>> Delete the messages.tbb and messages.tbi files from your outbox
F> And unfortunately I did that too. So I played it smart and first
F> exported all messages concerned by the future deletion to another
F> place.

Well, I didn't realize you were keeping messages in the Outbox,
probably because I hardly save any drafts in it.

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Re[2]: the bat! freezes when trying to compress/purge

[Fiber]

RO> Close TB (without purge & compress)
RO> Reboot your computer
RO> Check your mail partition with scandisk
RO> Delete all temporary files from your disk (clean disk, or whatever
RO> it's called in the explorer)
RO> Disable your virusscanner and firewall
Did all that.

RO> Delete the messages.tbb and messages.tbi files from your outbox
And unfortunately I did that too. So I played it smart and first
exported all messages concerned by the future deletion to another
place. Then I deleted the .TBB and .TBI files. Relaunched The Bat!,
re-imported the messages and ran some maintenance (that went pretty
well).

Thanks a lot for your advice!

The Bat! is a great tool. Fantastic.

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Re: the bat! freezes when trying to compress/purge

[Miguel A. Urech]

Hello Fiber,

>   Hi everyone,
>
> I'm reporting this: Everytime I try to do some maintenance
> stuff or if I want to just compress/purge everything for an account,
> The Bat! freezes.

But also:

> X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.63 Beta/7)

I would suggest you report it in the TBBeta list.

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Re: the bat! freezes when trying to compress/purge

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Fiber,

On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 21:55:46 -0500GMT (26-2-03, 3:55 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

F> I'm reporting this: Everytime I try to do some maintenance stuff or
F> if I want to just compress/purge everything for an account, The
F> Bat! freezes.

F> How come my Outbox folder weighs about 140 Mo??? I tried to delete
F> the Outbox files for my main account but it just recreated that big
F> file...

Unless you're sending real big files or lots of them, your outbox
shouldn't get that big, so you might be on to something. To eliminate
other possibilities, follow this procedure.

Close TB (without purge & compress)
Reboot your computer
Check your mail partition with scandisk
Delete all temporary files from your disk (clean disk, or whatever
it's called in the explorer)
Disable your virusscanner and firewall
Delete the messages.tbb and messages.tbi files from your outbox
  (Which one is so big? The .tbi shouldn't get into that league)
You need more than three or four times as much free space than your
biggest folders on the disk where Windows stores it's temporary files
(if you don't know what disk that is, it's probably  C: )
Start TB
Purge and compress all folders for an account
If it doesn't work now, you've got yourself a bug.

Since you're using a beta, you could go back to 1.62i and follow this
procedure again. If 1.62i produces results, then you were having a beta
problem and you should pursue the matter on tbbeta. If 1.62i fails
too, the problem is more basic.

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the bat! freezes when trying to compress/purge

[Fiber]

  Hi everyone,

I'm reporting this: Everytime I try to do some maintenance
stuff or if I want to just compress/purge everything for an account,
The Bat! freezes. In fact it keeps doing things (for some hours) until
Windows tells me that there is not enough virtual memory. I'm using
The Bat! 1.62 on a Windows 2000 SP3 and I have 512 Mo of RAM.

I found what folders are subject to this. For my main
account, that's the Outbox. For another account it's the 'sent'
folder. And those folders are BIG! How come my Outbox folder weighs
about 140 Mo??? I tried to delete the Outbox files for my main account
but it just recreated that big file...

  Fiber _ pLEASE hELP mE :)



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Re: hangs on "purge and compress"

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo atelier1,

On Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:30:53 +0200GMT (11-9-02, 15:30 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

a>  I just emptied my trash folder, then did: "purge and compress",
a>  the hourglass apeared and stayed on, for 10 minutes, no hd activity,
a>  had to ctrl alt del.

Only things I can think of are corrupt messages.tbi a corrupt
messages.tbi or harddisk troubles. Did you run scandisk recently?

Since your problems seems to manifest themselves at your trash folder,
I'd suggest that you go the directory where your trash folder is
located and delete both messages.tbi and messages.tbb (preferably when
TB is closed)

If the problem isn't solved then. Try to find which folder is
problematic. You'd best do this by selecting a folder and compressing
it. (Forget about the purging part until you're problem free.)

How often do you compress? Especially folders from which you move or
delete a lot of messages need to be compressed regularly. This might
help to prevent these kind of problems.

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hangs on "purge and compress"

[atelier1]

 Hi,
 I just emptied my trash folder, then did: "purge and compress",
 the hourglass apeared and stayed on, for 10 minutes, no hd activity,
 had to ctrl alt del.
 I then tried to make a backup in the bat, backup stopped at 3% ,
 again  ctrl alt del .
 I tried several times , same result.
 I have lots of free space and 512 mb memory, one thing i did notice:
 processor resources were 100%.
 TIA
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Re: Cant BACKUP or COMPRESS with crashing

[Dean]

 Hello Thomas,

 Sunday, August 11, 2002, 8:42:49 AM, you wrote:
  :
> Hello  Dean,

> Do you use a virus scanner. I had the same problem when i use AVP Pro
> Scanner. Theres seams to be a problem. I changed my scanner to
> AVG...everything works perfect.

> So try a backup with disabled scanner.

You'll have to excuse me, I'm a bit confused.  When you mention the same
problem are you referring to the original post regarding the crashing or my
post where I describe the defrag procedure?   Sometimes I get to analytical
for my own good;)

If this is in regards to my defragment procedure. I have had the same
fragmentation rate with F-Secure, F-Prot, Nav 2000+ ver., Nod32, VET and
with no antivirus at all- Did some experimenting. I do believe my situation
is more due to the a 5 different accounts and 30 some folders each with
there own TBB and TBI folder. I figure that as each folder gets new mail, I
delete, or Purge/compress it is bound to change the size of the TBB/TBI
files. Which, increases the possibility for fragmentation.  When I backup
from an unfragmented program I do not see any snags.

Hope I didn't just muddy the waters;)

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Re: Cant BACKUP or COMPRESS with crashing

[Thomas Martin]

Hello  Dean,

On  Saturday, 10. August 2002  at 22:47:18 [GMT -0700] you wrote:


> When all else fails, this is what I do, and have been doing for a couple of
> years.  I have given TheBat! a partition of it's own, used Norton Defrag to
> place TheBat! at the end of the partition.  At least once a day I defrag
> that particular drive. I received from 100-400 post daily and my
> fragmentation can vary and will greatly increase if I just deleted the
> post's I backed up to a CD.


Do you use a virus scanner. I had the same problem when i use AVP Pro
Scanner. Theres seams to be a problem. I changed my scanner to
AVG...everything works perfect.

So try a backup with disabled scanner.

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Re: Cant BACKUP or COMPRESS with crashing

[Dean]

 Hello Brandt,

 Saturday, August 10, 2002, 5:17:59 PM, you wrote:
  :
> Again, I think there is a serious need for an AUDIT or Error Check
> function in TB. I know that sometimes, TB will pop up a dialoge saying
> that some messages are corrupted, do you want to repair?

> Anyway, I was just generally diapointed at the lack of help.

> As well, I still do not know why this happened in the first place.

When all else fails, this is what I do, and have been doing for a couple of
years.  I have given TheBat! a partition of it's own, used Norton Defrag to
place TheBat! at the end of the partition.  At least once a day I defrag
that particular drive. I received from 100-400 post daily and my
fragmentation can vary and will greatly increase if I just deleted the
post's I backed up to a CD.

Long story short, I have started the day with 99% unfragmented drive and by
the end of the day I have seen it drop to 78%.  When the drive reaches 10%
fragmentation I started noticing slow downs. Options not working
correctly   I just shut down anything running on the E:\ Drive, defrag
and start up again.  Things run just fine and smoothly.

I don't know if this will work for you, but it solves 95% of my problems
with TheBat! I know this sounds simple and stupid, but it works like a
charm on my pc's.

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Re[2]: Cant BACKUP or COMPRESS with crashing

[Brandt]

After searching through the archives, I finally had luck with Deleting
my *.TBI files. The message base index files.

TB then reindexes when you restart the program, though it takes a
while.

I had already tried reinstalling the most recent version.

Again, I think there is a serious need for an AUDIT or Error Check
function in TB. I know that sometimes, TB will pop up a dialoge saying
that some messages are corrupted, do you want to repair?

Then there is no indication of what happened or the outcome.

Anyway, I was just generally diapointed at the lack of help.

As well, I still do not know why this happened in the first place.


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Saturday, August 10, 2002, 9:24:38 AM, you wrote:


S> I had this Problem before, and what I did was install the new version
S> that just came out back then. It must be a bug in THE BAT, but since
S> there are just 10389489834 bugs here, I guess we have to suck it up
S> and re-install.

S> I at least could not find a workaround when I was unable to backup my
S> files, which of course is an essential function of a mail client... .

S> Sorry to not be of more help,


S> Seb

S> -Your Mail-
S> From: Brandt - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
S> To: Sebastian - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
S> Date: Wednesday, August 7, 2002 at 3:22:46 AM
S> Subject: Cant BACKUP or COMPRESS with crashing

S> When I try to compress my inbox, TB hangs.
S> When I try to BACKUP, TB hangs on the inbox, at 5%.

S> Please Help. Or point me towards someone that can.



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Re: Cant BACKUP or COMPRESS with crashing

[Sebastian]

I had this Problem before, and what I did was install the new version
that just came out back then. It must be a bug in THE BAT, but since
there are just 10389489834 bugs here, I guess we have to suck it up
and re-install.

I at least could not find a workaround when I was unable to backup my
files, which of course is an essential function of a mail client... .

Sorry to not be of more help,


Seb

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Subject: Cant BACKUP or COMPRESS with crashing

When I try to compress my inbox, TB hangs.
When I try to BACKUP, TB hangs on the inbox, at 5%.

Please Help. Or point me towards someone that can.
  

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Re: TB Forgotten how to count? -- Automatic Compress as TB! shuts down

[Daniel Grunberg]

Tue, 2 Jul 2002 19:59:19[GMT +0100]   (2:59 PM EDST) Ben Kennish
wrote:

> Is there a quick way to Purge and Compress all folders as opposed to
> doing each individually?

TheBat! can compress any folder or folders you wish it to,
automatically, each time TheBat! shuts down.

For each account:  TheBat | Account | Properties | Options

   Check "Compress all folders on exit"


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Re: Compress all folders on exit question

[Roelof Otten]

Hello Mark,

On Wed, 1 May 2002 19:33:21 -0400GMT (2-5-02, 1:33 +0200GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

MK> Should the 'Compress all folders on exit' option always be selected?

That's totally up to you.

MK> Does this have any negative impact on TheBat!'s database files?

No. On the contrary.
When you delete or move a message from a folder, it's not deleted, but
only marked for deleting. The real deleting is done when you're
compressing the folder.
When you're in the habit of deleting lots of messages from lots of
folders it's very sensible to have the option selected. When the only
folder you're deleting/moving messages from is the Inbox (doesn't
matter whether it's done automatically or by filter) it's sufficient
to check the 'compress on exit' in the folder properties of the inbox.

But anyhow, since compressing makes the database smaller it makes it
easier for TB to find messages in the messagebase.

Since the way TB stores it's messages it's very easy for the disk
where you store TB's messagebase to get fragmented. So it's also a
good point to defrag the partition every now and then. (This is also
the reason that I'm keeping my messagesbase on a dedicated partition.)

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[Mark Knipfer]

Should the 'Compress all folders on exit' option always be selected?

Does this have any negative impact on TheBat!'s database files?

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Re: Compress and Purge

[Roelof Otten]

Hello Miguel,

On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 14:07:29 +0100GMT (20-2-2002, 14:07 +0100GMT,
where I live), you wrote:

MAU> That is exactly what I mean. If I do a purge I get the same pop-up
MAU> telling me how many bytes compression has saved. That is actually the
MAU> reason for my question.

I see. I checked it, you're right. I never use that, since I purge and
compress on exit.

Actually to select Purge all folders does purge and compress where
compress only compresses. Believe me, I checked it this time. ;-)


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Re[2]: Compress and Purge

[Miguel A. Urech]

Hi Roelof,

Thanks for your reply. yes, I more or less understand what compress
and purge do, but...

> The compressing part is to actually delete from the database those
> messages that were maked as deleted. That's why the compressed command
> ends with a pop-up screen that tells you how many bytes you've saved,
> since TB's messagebases get smaller.

That is exactly what I mean. If I do a purge I get the same pop-up
telling me how many bytes compression has saved. That is actually the
reason for my question.

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Compress and Purge

[Miguel A. Urech]

Hello all,

What's the actual difference between "Compress All folders" and "Purge
All folders" under Folder menu? As far as I can see they seem to do
the same.

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Re: Compress and Purge

[Roelof Otten]

Hello Miguel,

On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 10:51:23 +0100GMT (20-2-2002, 10:51 +0100GMT,
where I live), you wrote:

MAU> What's the actual difference between "Compress All folders" and "Purge
MAU> All folders" under Folder menu? As far as I can see they seem to do
MAU> the same.

When you're purging your folders you're marking those messages as
deleted that are too old or too many when compared to the folder
properties.

That is 'marking as deleted', not deleting them from the messagebase,
but only rendering them invisible. Like many databases TB only marks a
message as deleted when you delete it or move it another folder, no
matter if that's done automaticaaly on exit, via a filter or manually.

The compressing part is to actually delete from the database those
messages that were maked as deleted. That's why the compressed command
ends with a pop-up screen that tells you how many bytes you've saved,
since TB's messagebases get smaller.
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Re: Compress folders on schedule?

[Roelof Otten]

Hello Alexander,

On Fri, 9 Nov 2001 17:40:53 +0100GMT (9-11-01, 17:40 +0100GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

JW>>> Command line parameter like:
JW>>> /compress
>> Not quite good enough, there should be a /purge parameter too.

AK> I would like to see these 2 parameters too, with an option for all
AK> or some determined folders (and they have to work regardless of The
AK> Bat! running or not)

Just like every other parameter, you mean. ;-)

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Re: Compress folders on schedule?

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Hi,

JW>> Command line parameter like:
JW>> /compress
> Not quite good enough, there should be a /purge parameter too.

I would like to see these 2 parameters too, with an option for all
or some determined folders (and they have to work regardless of The
Bat! running or not)

Bis demnaechst.
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Re: Compress folders on schedule?

[Roelof Otten]

Hello Jacek,

On Fri, 9 Nov 2001 11:16:21 +0100GMT (9-11-01, 11:16 +0100GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

JW> Command line parameter like:

JW> /compress

JW> would be great for me.

Not quite good enough, there should be a /purge parameter too.

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Re: Compress folders on schedule?

[Jacek Wojaczynski]

On Friday, November 09, 2001 Allie C Martin wrote:

[...]
> deleted. You can then make the system scheduler run a batch file that
> shutdown and re-opens TB!. This is assuming that you keep TB! running
> all the time.

Even if you close TB! every day it is pretty annoying to
have all folders (I have a lot of them) compressed.

Command line parameter like:

/compress

would be great for me.

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Re: Compress

[Jernej Simončič]

Hello Peter,

29. avgust 2001, 22:07:08, you wrote:

> Why do I need to "compress" so frequently?  I find myself having to do
> a compress every 1 or 2 days and it saves me 20-45 MBytes every time.

Don't know about the saving, but I have "On exit"..."Compress the
folder" set for all my folders... Might save you some time...

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Re: Compress

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Hi Peter,
On Wed, 29 Aug 2001 13:07:08 -0700, you wrote these comments:
...
PC> Why do I need to "compress" so frequently?  I find myself having to
PC> do a compress every 1 or 2 days and it saves me 20-45 MBytes every
PC> time.

You could go in the folder properties for those high traffic folders and
set them to be compressed. This will automatically compress them each
time you exit TB!.

The high traffic folders would be the inbox, outbox and any other
folders in which mail is deleted a lot or filtered out of a lot.

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Compress

[Peter Chiou]

Hello TB! Wizards,

Why do I need to "compress" so frequently?  I find myself having to do
a compress every 1 or 2 days and it saves me 20-45 MBytes every time.

I have about 500MB worth of messages in my information store folder
for The Bat!  Thanks.


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Re[2]: ? symbol in folder when Purge and compress

[Didier MENE]

Bonjour,

mardi 14 août 2001, 11:26:14, vous avez écris:


DM>> When a client account open TB, all folders are empty and a ? symbol
DM>> remplace
DM>> the number of messages.

JA> When this happens, try hitting Esc to refresh the message list.  I've
JA> never had the problem you've described, but then I've never run TB in
JA> that mode.

OK, I will test this the next time

JA> One other thing to check: Are the users accessing the files from a
JA> remote computer?  Is it possible that the network share permissions
JA> are at fault?  What OS/Network are you running?

My server is on win 2000 Pro and the clients on win 95, or Win 98 or NT
4. The problem don't exist with the nt4 client...

When I Purge and compress all, I ask all my user to close TB on the
clients and I close all connection to the shared files.


Toutes mes salutations,
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Re: ? symbol in folder when Purge and compress

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello Didier,

Historians believe that Tuesday, August 14, 2001 at 10:16 GMT +0200
was when, Didier MENE [DM] typed the following:

DM> When a client account open TB, all folders are empty and a ? symbol
DM> remplace
DM> the number of messages.

When this happens, try hitting Esc to refresh the message list.  I've
never had the problem you've described, but then I've never run TB in
that mode.

One other thing to check: Are the users accessing the files from a
remote computer?  Is it possible that the network share permissions
are at fault?  What OS/Network are you running?

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? symbol in folder when Purge and compress

[Didier MENE]

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Hello,

I have a problem when I purge and compress all my folder on all
accounts(serveur mode).
When a client account open TB, all folders are empty and a ? symbol
remplace
the number of messages.

I must close The BAT, the save the account files on a other place,
open TB, then delete the account(and files), close TB, open TB,
create the same
account, close TB, remplace the new account files with the old files,
open TB.

With this procedure the account is OK, all messages are here.

That's a long procedure. I have 15 users on my LAN !!!

What can I do ?

What is the problem ?

Salut

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Re: Purge & Compress

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On Sunday, April 22, 2001 at 14:48 (my local time), Thomas wrote
about "Purge & Compress".

Hi Thomas,
thank you for your reply.

T> Carefull: the menu item "Purge all folders" (under the line) is
T> mislabelled, and what it really does is "Purge and Compress all
T> Folders".

That's the one that got me confused. :o)) As I haven't set any rules for
purging yet, all it can do is compress and that's what it does...

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Re: Purge & Compress

[Thomas]

Hallo Peter,

On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 14:38:46 +0200 GMT (22/04/2001, 20:38 +0800 GMT),
Peter Meyns wrote:

PM> what is the difference between purging and compressing my folders? In both
PM> cases my TB! seems to do exactly the same, i.e., compress...

"purging" means that old messages (as defined in folder / properties /
general: maximum number of messages, or number of days) are being
marked marked deleted.

"compressing" means that all messages marked deleted are actually
taken off the database. Thus, if you only purge a folder, the size (on
your HD) will remain the same, and TB will not compress if you only
choose Folder / Purge.

Carefull: the menu item "Purge all folders" (under the line) is
mislabelled, and what it really does is "Purge and Compress all
Folders".

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Re: Purge & Compress

[Lars Geiger]

Hi Peter,
On Sun, 22 Apr 2001, at 14:38:46 +0200 you wrote:

PM> what is the difference between purging and compressing my
PM> folders? In both cases my TB! seems to do exactly the same,
PM> i.e., compress...

"Purging" removes old messages according to the settings of the
folder *and* compresses, while "compress" only (yeah, right...)
compresses a folder.

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Purge & Compress

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Hi all,
as this is supposed to be also a beginners' list, here is a beginner's
question:
what is the difference between purging and compressing my folders? In both
cases my TB! seems to do exactly the same, i.e., compress...

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Compress bugs

[Peter Sprenger]

Hi,

I installed The Bat and tried to get my old mail data from Netscape.
After that I installed some new filters and re-filtered my Inbox entries

into some other mail folders.
1st problem: I selected compress but had not enough disk space
free (Inbox had 150MB) to make this operation. After that my
Inbox was empty!?!
2nd problem: Again I imported the Inbox from Netscape and re-filtered
my Inbox. Because I re-filtered the 2nd time I had dupes in my other
mail
folders. I started Dupe-killing then again Compress. Now there was
enough
space available. All went fine but now one of my other mail folders was
empty.

This directs to some heavy problems in the Compress functions.

Best Regards,

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Re: Compress on exit

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello katsmeow,


On  Thursday, September 14, 2000  at  21:43:49 GMT -0500 (which was 7:43 PM
where I live) witnesses say [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:

> I just discovered that emptying the trash on exit does not really
> delete the messages and that they aren't deleted until compressed.
> OK.  Fine.  I went in and ran compress and everything is fine.

> However, if I wanted to chance my settings so that all messages in all
> folders would be compressed on exit is there a way to globally set
> this preference in all folders or must I go to all 300+ folders and
> set this preference for each folder?

 Unfortunately, you'll have to do this on a folder by folder basis.
 It is easy to set up when you create new folders, unfortunately many
 people don't realize the benefits of these settings until they have a
 large folder structure.  I believe a better folder management utility
 has been requested.


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Compress on exit

[katsmeow]

I just discovered that emptying the trash on exit does not really
delete the messages and that they aren't deleted until compressed.
OK.  Fine.  I went in and ran compress and everything is fine.

However, if I wanted to chance my settings so that all messages in all
folders would be compressed on exit is there a way to globally set
this preference in all folders or must I go to all 300+ folders and
set this preference for each folder?


  

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Re: Compress?

[Januk Aggarwal]

On  Thursday, August 31, 2000  at  13:46:16 GMT -0700 (which was 1:46 PM
where I live) witnesses say I typed:

> Hello Wayne,

 

> The batch file would look something like this:

> @echo off
> echo --- Begin Backup Process ---
> C:
> cd \"Program Files"\"The Bat!"\
> start /w xcopy32 mail d:\TBBackup\ /e
> d:
> cd \TBBackup
> start /w regedit /e tbreg.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT
> echo.
> echo --- End Backup Process ---
> exit

I should mention that this works even better if you remove
"start /w" from

start /w xcopy32 mail d:\TBBackup\ /e

So the better version would be:

@echo off
echo --- Begin Backup Process ---
C:
cd \"Program Files"\"The Bat!"\
xcopy32 mail d:\TBBackup\ /e
d:
cd \TBBackup
start /w regedit /e tbreg.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT
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Re: Compress?

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Hi Wayne,

On 31 August 2000 at 13:17:24 GMT -0700 (which was 21:17 where I
live) Wayne Black wrote and made these points on the subject
of "Compress?":

MDP>> You can either use Regedit to export the key or use the command prompt
MDP>> or a batch file to backup the registry data with this command:

MDP>> regedit /e tbreg.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT

WB> I have tried this command line to back up The Bat's registry file.
WB> It  seems  to  work  but  I  can  not find this file to be able to
WB> restore it. Where does it go?

It will go to the DOS current directory. You can be more specific:

regedit /e c:\temp\keeptb\tbreg.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT

... or specify any drive / path you prefer.

WB> I am using The Bat 1.45 with Windows 98. I want to be able to add
WB> this registry backup command line to a batch file that copies the
WB> whole Bat directory to the "D" partition of my hard drive.

So use something like

regedit /e d:\backup\keeptb\tbreg.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT

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Re: Compress?

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello Wayne,


On  Thursday, August 31, 2000  at  13:17:24 GMT -0700 (which was 1:17 PM
where I live) witnesses say Wayne Black typed:

> Hello Marck,

> I have tried this command line to back up The Bat's registry file. It
> seems to work but I can not find this file to be able to restore it.
> Where does it go?

 When called from the command line, regedit puts the output file in
 whatever directory you're working in.  If you used the Start\Run
 feature to run this command line, then there is a good chance that
 you'll find the tbreg.reg file in your main Windows folder.

 Alternatively, you could just use Start\Find and search for
 tbreg.reg .


>  I am using The Bat 1.45 with Windows 98. I want to
> be able to add this registry backup command line to a batch file that
> copies the whole Bat directory to the "D" partition of my hard drive.

Ok, so create a folder on drive D called TBBackup.  I'm going to
assume that your TB mail folder structure is under
C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Mail\

The batch file would look something like this:

@echo off
echo --- Begin Backup Process ---
C:
cd \"Program Files"\"The Bat!"\
start /w xcopy32 mail d:\TBBackup\ /e
d:
cd \TBBackup
start /w regedit /e tbreg.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT
echo.
echo --- End Backup Process ---
exit





 


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Re[2]: Compress?

[Wayne Black]

Hello Marck,

I have tried this command line to back up The Bat's registry file. It
seems to work but I can not find this file to be able to restore it.
Where does it go? I am using The Bat 1.45 with Windows 98. I want to
be able to add this registry backup command line to a batch file that
copies the whole Bat directory to the "D" partition of my hard drive.
This would make everything easy to backup and restore with a desktop
icon pointing to this batch file. Pleas let me know if you use a
better way of doing this. Thanks to everyone.


Monday, August 28, 2000, 6:22:45 PM, you wrote:

MDP> would   need.  The  rest  is  held  in  the  system  registry  in  the
MDP> HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/ key and sub-keys.

MDP> You can either use Regedit to export the key or use the command prompt
MDP> or a batch file to backup the registry data with this command:

MDP> regedit /e tbreg.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT

MDP> When  re-installing,  just  double-click on the .reg file from Windows
MDP> Explorer to reload the data into the system registry.

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Re: Purge or Compress?

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello Allie,


On  Wednesday, August 30, 2000  at  00:01:50 GMT -0500 (which was 10:01 PM
where I live) witnesses say A . Curtis Martin typed:


> Purging is usually done automatically upon exiting TB! but if you're one
> who closes TB! once a month :-), then you will find the purge option
> useful.

 On exit, TB only purges the folders you tell it to purge in the
 folder properties tab.  If you don't have "Remove Old messages"
 checked, your folder will not be purged.

 


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Re: Purge or Compress?

[A . Curtis Martin]

On Wed, 30 Aug 2000 21:57:57 -0700, Januk Aggarwal wrote:

JA> What I'm not sure about is which messages are removed when you have
JA> "Maximum number of messages" selected...

The oldest messages are deleted first.

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Re: Purge or Compress?

[A . Curtis Martin]

On Wed, 30 Aug 2000 21:37:36 -0700, Nick Andriash wrote:

NA> Can someone explain how the command "Purge All Folders" differs from
NA> "Compress All Folders"? I know what compressing the Folders does,
NA> but not sure about the Purge command.

Purging will delete the old messages as you define in your folder
settings based on message age or folder message storage limitations.

Purging is usually done automatically upon exiting TB! but if you're one
who closes TB! once a month :-), then you will find the purge option
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Re: Purge or Compress?

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello Nick,


On  Wednesday, August 30, 2000  at  21:37:36 GMT -0700 (which was 9:37 PM
where I live) witnesses say Nick Andriash typed:

> Can someone explain how the command "Purge All Folders" differs from
> "Compress All Folders"? I know what compressing the Folders does, but not
> sure about the Purge command.

 Purge deletes messages from your folders based on the folder's
 properties.  In other words, if you have a folder that has "Keep
 messages for xx days" and it contains messages older than that, Purge
 will remove them.

 What I'm not sure about is which messages are removed when you have
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Purge or Compress?

[Nick Andriash]

Can someone explain how the command "Purge All Folders" differs from
"Compress All Folders"? I know what compressing the Folders does, but not
sure about the Purge command.


Nick


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Re: Compress?

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On 29 August 2000 at 02:44:48 GMT +0200 (which was 01:44 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject
of "Compress?":

VM>  I  am  new in here, and I was watching for your discussions for a
VM>  while  (silently), and now here is moment where I want to ask you
VM>  something!

Hello and welcome and thank you for speaking up.

VM> When you compress messages in a folder, what is really happening
VM> with my mail (how are they compressed?)?

When  messages are deleted, they are not removed from the message base
but  just  flagged as no longer valid. Purging and compressing removes
these deleted messages and reclaims the space.

VM> Is compressed folder slower than it was?

No,  it  isn't. If anything it may be slightly quicker although, since
the file concerned is indexed, it is probably no different in reality.

VM> How can I export all of my messages when I'm reinstalling my
VM> system? Can I just save mail folder from The Bat's installation
VM> folder and later just replace new one with old?

The  message  data  is  stored in a folder structure on your disk that
exactly  mirrors  that  within  TB.  You  can  save the mail directory
structure  and  the  files their and that holds *most* of the data you
would   need.  The  rest  is  held  in  the  system  registry  in  the
HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/ key and sub-keys.

You can either use Regedit to export the key or use the command prompt
or a batch file to backup the registry data with this command:

regedit /e tbreg.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT

When  re-installing,  just  double-click on the .reg file from Windows
Explorer to reload the data into the system registry.

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Compress?

[Vladimir Mincev]

Hello All you nice people,

 I am new in here, and I was watching for your discussions for a while
 (silently), and now here is moment where I want to ask you something!

 When you compress messages in a folder, what is really happening with
 my mail (how are they compressed?)? Is compressed folder slower than
 it was? How can I export all of my messages when I'm reinstalling my
 system? Can I just save mail folder from The Bat's installation
 folder and later just replace new one with old? Thanks for your time
 fellows! (Ops... I excuse to any girls in the mailing list for
 forgetting them!) Bye!

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Do you compress folders regularly? - was - Re: ERROR ... please help ...

[Andrew K. Lovetski]

Hello, The Bat Users!

CGS> First, I today, reapaired it myself. I just renamed that file to
CGS> the message file and voila I have my inbox back.

CGS> btw, the .tmp file had the size of 54 MB ...

Seems you do not use Compress folder on a regular basis (and all mail
you ever received is still in the message base - just marked as
deleted, but not cut out from the file) - look at Folder|Compress all
folders menu item. Alternatively, you can setup your folders to be
compressed on exit - look in folders' properties dialog.

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Purge & Compress (was:Re: The Bat! - suggestions)

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hi Jason,

On Thu, 6 Jan 2000 01:23:32 -0800GMT (06/01/2000, 17:23 +0800GMT),
Jason Thompson wrote:

>> Instead of Purging & Compressing every time I close The Bat!, I would
>> like to have an option to Purge & Compress manually.

JT> As for manual purging/compressing, there are commands to do this in the
JT> Folder menu in the main TB window.

Thanks, and Purge All Folders, followed by Compress All Folders is
what I use now instead of "on exit". (I don't quite understand why
Purge will compress before but not after purging. Who would want to
purge without compressing? And if so, why would you want to compress
before purging at all?)

Two wishes I have:

1.) When compressing, the window shows progress as "Compressing
Accountname\Foldername". This is new and good. During purging, it only
shows "Purging Foldername", but exactly which "Inbox" is being purged?
I would like to see the Accountname also in the purging process
window.

2.) A cancel botton would come in handy. Need I elaborate? ;-)

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Re: Purge&Compress (was: Re: The Bat! - suggestions)

[Steve Lamb]

Thursday, January 06, 2000, 8:57:37 AM, Carsten wrote:
> Shouldn't  that be a purge before a compress? Otherwise, you compress,
> purge,  then have empty space left over from the purge, right? Or am I
> just confused again? ;]

Hey, I just got to work and hadn't had my morning cup of Dew.  My bad.  :P

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Re[2]: Purge&Compress (was: Re: The Bat! - suggestions)

[Carsten Dreesbach]

Hello Steve,

Thursday, January 06, 2000, 5:30:31 PM, you wrote:

>> the command in the folder menu. I want one mouse-click for
>> "purge&compress all folder that are set up for this". Incidentally,
>> all my folders have an old-message date, after which I want to keep
>> only parked messages.

SL> You have that.  The purge does a compress before the purge.

Shouldn't  that be a purge before a compress? Otherwise, you compress,
purge,  then have empty space left over from the purge, right? Or am I
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Re: Purge&Compress (was: Re: The Bat! - suggestions)

[Steve Lamb]

Thursday, January 06, 2000, 1:37:39 AM, Thomas wrote:
> the command in the folder menu. I want one mouse-click for
> "purge&compress all folder that are set up for this". Incidentally,
> all my folders have an old-message date, after which I want to keep
> only parked messages.

You have that.  The purge does a compress before the purge.

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Re: Purge&Compress (was: Re: The Bat! - suggestions)

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hallo Oleg, Juergen and Stefan:

On Thu, 6 Jan 2000 14:40:26 +0400 GMT (06.01.2000, 18:40 +0800 GMT),
Oleg Zalyalov wrote:

TF>> I want one mouse-click for "purge&compress all folder that are set
TF>> up for this".

OZ> Folders/Purge All Folders

Thanks to all of you. The Bat! has no many features that I actually
overlooked the one that was right under my nose. ;-)

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Re: Purge&Compress (was: Re: The Bat! - suggestions)

[Syafril Hermansyah]

Hello Thomas Fernandez,

On  Thu,  6 Jan 2000 at 17:37:39 GMT +0800 [Thursday, January 06, 2000
16:37 GMT +0700], you told to the list:

[ ...]

TF> I now purge & compress "on exit" - on *every* exit, that is. Maybe
TF> the  opposite  of  my  initial  suggestion  should  be  easier  to
TF> implement:   "exit"   (Alt-X)  versus  "exit  while  ignoring  all
TF> purge&compress set-ups" (ALT-CRTL-X, or whatever).

For this, I am definitely agree.


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Re: Purge&Compress (was: Re: The Bat! - suggestions)

[Oleg Zalyalov]

Hello, the Bat! list recipients,

Thursday, January 06, 2000, Thomas Fernandez wrote to Jason Thompson about
Purge&Compress (was: Re: The Bat! - suggestions):

TF> I want one mouse-click for "purge&compress all folder that are set
TF> up for this".

Folders/Purge All Folders

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[Thomas Fernandez]

Hi Jason,

On Thu, 6 Jan 2000 01:23:32 -0800GMT (06/01/2000, 17:23 +0800GMT),
Jason Thompson wrote:

>> Instead of Purging & Compressing every time I close The Bat!, I would
>> like to have an option to Purge & Compress manually.

JT> Hmmm. It is my understanding that only folders set to purge and compress
JT> on exit will have this behavior, as set up in each folder's properties.
JT> As for manual purging/compressing, there are commands to do this in the
JT> Folder menu in the main TB window.

Correct. My wording was not precise enough. I do not want to
purge&compress each of the 43 folders individually, which I could with
the command in the folder menu. I want one mouse-click for
"purge&compress all folder that are set up for this". Incidentally,
all my folders have an old-message date, after which I want to keep
only parked messages.

I now purge & compress "on exit" - on *every* exit, that is. Maybe the
opposite of my initial suggestion should be easier to implement:
"exit" (Alt-X) versus "exit while ignoring all purge&compress set-ups"
(ALT-CRTL-X, or whatever).

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