Re: Configuration Transfers
Hello Keith Russell, On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 21:44:28 -0600 GMT your local time, which was Monday, August 28, 2000, 10:44:28 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Keith Russell wrote: Hello, fellow Bat-lovers. I'm tired of duplicating my setup in two different places, so I would like to copy my home configuration to my PC at work. Can anyone see any problems with my just copying account.cfg, account.flx, and account.srx into the account directory? The only problem I have been able to think of would be if my work PC has a folder that my home PC doesn't. In that case, I don't know what would happen to the messages in that folder. Nothing but you wouldnt see it and may have to make a new account with whatever name etc.. Best way I think is copy it all over. reinstall in that directory so it fixes the registry etc try and recreate any missing accounts.. Assuming that I make sure this isn't the case first, do you foresee any other problems? Thanks. -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.46 Beta/3 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194/324244 handphone : 01-891-9560 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Configuration Transfers
Hello, fellow Bat-lovers. On Sunday, August 27, 2000, 11:34:52 PM, Gerd wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 28.08.00: Hello, fellow Bat-lovers. snip Can anyone see any problems with my just copying account.cfg, account.flx, and account.srx into the account directory? Yes, because the configuration is saved in the registry. You have to export all RIT entries in the registry @home and to import them @work. Furthermore you have to modify some entries due to the fact that you have different folder names on the two systems.. I'm not sure what to do if you already have a setup @work with mails stored on that system. I doubt that you may import your home-setup-registry without causing some trouble (Please correct me someone if I'm wrong) ! Good point. I guess I need to clarify. When I said "configuration", I was referring to account and folder configuration: such things as folder names and organization, templates, and filters. Yes, such things as directory paths, fonts, etc., are stored in the registry, but I'm not too concerned about them matching up in the two locations--especially since many of these settings are going to be machine specific. On the other hand, if I simply just copy over the three files I mentioned, is there a chance that there might be a conflict between their contents and the registry settings? I guess that might be a concern. Thanks for the reply, Gerd! -- Keith Russell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...BUFFERS=20 FILES=15 2nd down, 4th quarter, 5 yards to go! -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Configuration Transfers - TB POOR
We have been 'evaluating' TB and purchased our first license. Although I feel that it is superior to Eudora (which I have used since it came out) I must say that this storage of information makes TB very weak at best. I am a 'road warrior' developer/consultant. My machine (our machines) have a tendency to get hosed during development phases or changing clients/projects etc. When I get to the office on the weekend I want to copy my messages from my laptop to my desktop. When our systems get hosed we want to load up the OS and the load the couple of programs we use all the time. With Eudora, on the weekend I could simply drag/drop my 'email' folder onto my desktop and POW .. it knew everything there was to know. Or if a machine got hosed .. load the os, load eudora from disk and copy the 'email' directory from server and POW .. once again eudora was up to date. Here I find it 'virtually' impossible to use TB in any kind of dynamic environment. If all things are stored in the repository (WHICH IS THE WEAKEST LINK IN WINDOWS) then I can see no way to make this work. I Really hope that I am wrong and the someone will pop up here and say .. man .. it is really easy .. just press this button ... PLEASE .. good information is needed. Thanks DSig [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 28.08.00: Hello, fellow Bat-lovers. snip Can anyone see any problems with my just copying account.cfg, account.flx, and account.srx into the account directory? Yes, because the configuration is saved in the registry. You have to export all RIT entries in the registry @home and to import them @work. Furthermore you have to modify some entries due to the fact that you have different folder names on the two systems. I'm not sure what to do if you already have a setup @work with mails stored on that system. I doubt that you may import your home-setup-registry without causing some trouble (Please correct me someone if I'm wrong) ! The only problem I have been able to think of would be if my work PC has a folder that my home PC doesn't. In that case, I don't know what would happen to the messages in that folder. Assuming that I make sure this isn't the case first, do you foresee any other problems? snip Cheers Gerd Ewald (written @work, no TB! available, sorry !) ___ 1.000.000 DM gewinnen - kostenlos tippen - http://millionenklick.web.de [EMAIL PROTECTED], 8MB Speicher, Verschluesselung - http://freemail.web.de -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Configuration Transfers - TB POOR
Hi dsig, On Monday, August 28, 2000, 2:59 AM, you wrote in part about "Configuration Transfers - TB POOR": d With Eudora, on the weekend I could simply drag/drop my 'email' d folder onto my desktop and POW .. it knew everything there was to d know. Or if a machine got hosed .. load the os, load eudora from d disk and copy the 'email' directory from server and POW .. once d again eudora was up to date. d Here I find it 'virtually' impossible to use TB in any kind of d dynamic environment. If all things are stored in the repository d (WHICH IS THE WEAKEST LINK IN WINDOWS) then I can see no way to d make this work. I had a similar situation. I am running VMWare guest with Windows in a Linux (host) environment. I copied my TB! into the new Windows 98 guest OS, from my W2K OS (on another HD), and then just copied all the subdirectories with it. My entire TB! directory in other words was copied to the new OS. I did nothing to the registry, nor did I officially install TB! in the new OS. Then to get the accounts to show up in TB!, press Shift+Ctrl+Alt+L to recover lost folders and messages. I then set up TB! by each account name that I had previously, and all the folders with email is automatically there - just by putting the account names into the new TB!. Works like a charm. Then just start TB!. All cookie files, filters, and other attributes are intact into the new OS, as you had them previously. -- Best regards, Gary Today's thought: Judge a man by his questions rather than his answers. - Voltaire PGP Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=SendPGPKey -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Configuration Transfers
On Mon, 28 Aug 2000 07:22:11 -0600, Keith Russell wrote: KR On the other hand, if I simply just copy over the three files I KR mentioned, is there a chance that there might be a conflict between KR their contents and the registry settings? I guess that might be a KR concern. There shouldn't be a problem here because you'd be doing what a lot of users do to move there installation to another machine, i.e., copy the mail account folder over to the other machine. Install TB! on the other machine, point the account configuration to the copied account folders location and the do a SHIFTCTRLALTL to create the directory structure. -- -=A. Curtis Martin=- Using TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1 Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "In the land of the witless, the halfwit is king. " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Configuration Transfers - TB POOR
On Mon, 28 Aug 2000 10:48:15 -0500, Gary wrote: G I had a similar situation. I am running VMWare guest with Windows in G a Linux (host) environment. I copied my TB! into the new Windows 98 G guest OS, from my W2K OS (on another HD), and then just copied all G the subdirectories with it. My entire TB! directory in other words G was copied to the new OS. I did nothing to the registry, nor did I G officially install TB! in the new OS. G Then to get the accounts to show up in TB!, press Shift+Ctrl+Alt+L to G recover lost folders and messages. I then set up TB! by each account G name that I had previously, and all the folders with email is G automatically there - just by putting the account names into the new G TB!. Works like a charm. Then just start TB!. All cookie files, G filters, and other attributes are intact into the new OS, as you had G them previously. If you're up to it, you could have exported the registry subkey for TB!, backed up the TB! directory and account directories. When the machine is hosed, simply restore the whole jebanks. It would be as if nothing had happened. I'm using the same installation through three clean OS installs and have never had the privilege of using SHIFTCTRLALTL to restore lost folders etc. :-) If you restore TB! to a new location, ie, partition/directory then you'll have to tailor the relevant registry entry paths to reflect this. If you're comfortable with TB!'s registry entries then this is a lot easier than re-configuring the new installation. If you're not up to dealing with the registry then SHIFTCTRLALTL it is followed by user interface reconfiguration. -- -=A. Curtis Martin=- Using TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1 Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "Beware of Geeks bearing gifs. " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Configuration Transfers - TB POOR
But it is insanity to store this type of information in the registry. THE ONLY THING that should be stored in the registry is TB and its associated files (if any). This weekend I paid for this evaluation copy of TB and then sunday night on the way out I copied over the directories (as I would in any normal program) BUT the licensing information must be stored in the registry as now I have a outdated TB. If this is the type of poor design under the hood what else waits? Although Eudora has a rash of problems .. hell rash .. outright leprosy .. at least all changes are kept within its boundries. Not sure that as a road warrior TB will work sigh. DSig If you're up to it, you could have exported the registry subkey for TB!, backed up the TB! directory and account directories. When the machine is hosed, simply restore the whole jebanks. It would be as if nothing had happened. I'm using the same installation through three clean OS installs and have never had the privilege of using SHIFTCTRLALTL to restore lost folders etc. :-) If you restore TB! to a new location, ie, partition/directory then you'll have to tailor the relevant registry entry paths to reflect this. If you're comfortable with TB!'s registry entries then this is a lot easier than re-configuring the new installation. If you're not up to dealing with the registry then SHIFTCTRLALTL it is followed by user interface reconfiguration. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Configuration Transfers - TB POOR
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi dsig, On 28 August 2000 at 10:21:17 GMT + (which was 11:21 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Configuration Transfers - TB POOR": dtc But it is insanity to store this type of information in the dtc registry. THE ONLY THING that should be stored in the registry is dtc TB and its associated files (if any). Agreed and often stated on these lists. dtc This weekend I paid for this evaluation copy of TB and then dtc sunday night on the way out I copied over the directories (as I dtc would in any normal program) BUT the licensing information must dtc be stored in the registry as now I have a outdated TB. If this is dtc the type of poor design under the hood what else waits? That position doesn't add up. Yes, it is not necessarily a good implementation decision to use registry instead of CFG/INI files to hold configuration data and that is an often stated criticism. It is also a criticism I completely agree with. That doesn't mean that a whole raft of problems awaits "under the hood". It is a just few second's work to dump the TB registry key (there's only one structure) with an "Export" command from within regedit or even to set up a batch file to do it. It is even less work to execute the .reg file to re-instate the settings on another system. dtc Although Eudora has a rash of problems .. hell rash .. outright dtc leprosy .. at least all changes are kept within its boundries. dtc Not sure that as a road warrior TB will work sigh. Sure it will: If you're up to it, you could have exported the registry subkey for TB!, backed up the TB! directory and account directories. - -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines. TB! v1.46 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBOaqj7DnkJKuSnc2gEQIuOQCdHYc8PhCyOVUIIshZ1eVGpW0R5kAAnRsJ 7qc4lIweaZM6j+mE15SaP7EI =f0Qa -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Configuration Transfers
Hello, fellow Bat-lovers. I'm tired of duplicating my setup in two different places, so I would like to copy my home configuration to my PC at work. Can anyone see any problems with my just copying account.cfg, account.flx, and account.srx into the account directory? The only problem I have been able to think of would be if my work PC has a folder that my home PC doesn't. In that case, I don't know what would happen to the messages in that folder. Assuming that I make sure this isn't the case first, do you foresee any other problems? Thanks. -- Keith Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...Printed on 100% recyclable phosphor. Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II 233 with 64 MB. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Configuration Transfers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 28.08.00: Hello, fellow Bat-lovers. snip Can anyone see any problems with my just copying account.cfg, account.flx, and account.srx into the account directory? Yes, because the configuration is saved in the registry. You have to export all RIT entries in the registry @home and to import them @work. Furthermore you have to modify some entries due to the fact that you have different folder names on the two systems. I'm not sure what to do if you already have a setup @work with mails stored on that system. I doubt that you may import your home-setup-registry without causing some trouble (Please correct me someone if I'm wrong) ! The only problem I have been able to think of would be if my work PC has a folder that my home PC doesn't. In that case, I don't know what would happen to the messages in that folder. Assuming that I make sure this isn't the case first, do you foresee any other problems? snip Cheers Gerd Ewald (written @work, no TB! available, sorry !) ___ 1.000.000 DM gewinnen - kostenlos tippen - http://millionenklick.web.de [EMAIL PROTECTED], 8MB Speicher, Verschluesselung - http://freemail.web.de -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
