Re: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-12-01 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Thomas,

On Sat, 1 Dec 2001 12:27:51 +0800GMT (1-12-01, 5:27 +0100GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

AQ Thank to all of you who gave me a hand. Roelof and Thomas won the
AQ paella (half each) for their good suggestions.

AQ down south. What are you waiting for? Come and get your award!

TF I will be in Granada in the second quarter of next year, I just
TF learned. Will let you know! :-)

In that case you're entitled to collect my part of the paella too,
since I don't even know where to find Granada.

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Re: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-12-01 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On 1  Dec 2001, 12:44:51 PM, Roelof Otten wrote:

 In that case you're entitled to collect my part of the paella too,
 since I don't even know where to find Granada.

Even without the paella, a visit to Granada would be a very good
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Re: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-12-01 Thread Thomas F

Hello Roelof,

On Sat, 1 Dec 2001 19:44:51 +0100 GMT (02/12/2001, 02:44 +0800 GMT),
Roelof Otten wrote:

RO In that case you're entitled to collect my part of the paella too,
RO since I don't even know where to find Granada.

Thanks. :-)

Grananda is in southern Spain, 37 degrees N / 3 degrees W. ;-)

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Re: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-12-01 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Roelof!

On 1  Dec 2001 at 19:44:51 you wrote:

 In that case you're entitled to collect my part of the paella too,
 since I don't even know where to find Granada.

1. In an Atlas (I recommend the one from the Britannica or even the on
from National Geographic).

2. About 100 km Northeast of Malaga, directly North from Almeria.

3. In your history book under 1492 (Nothing to do with Christobal
Colon, but a lot with Islam).




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Re: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-12-01 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Dierk,

On Sat, 1 Dec 2001 20:06:12 +0100GMT (1-12-01, 20:06 +0100GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

 since I don't even know where to find Granada.

DH 3. In your history book under 1492 (Nothing to do with Christobal
DH Colon, but a lot with Islam).

Ouch! History and Spain. :-(
I only know about the eighty year war we had way back with them. ;-)


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Re: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-11-30 Thread Thomas F

Hi Arturo,

On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 08:53:20 +0100GMT (30/11/2001, 15:53 +0800GMT),
Arturo Quirantes wrote:

AQ I have a related problem. I get the CC in the taskbar, but cannot
AQ make it appear!

Hmm, over here it comes into the foreground when I click on the
taskbar item.

AQ Alex Leschinsky, from RITlabs, told me to restore the window (CC,
AQ I guess) from its minimized form when I send/receive, but to no
AQ avail: the restore option in the right-button menu is grayed
AQ out.

How about Maximise? Maybe the size is set to zero or something, so
that's why you don't see it. Maybe also it is located off the screen,
so that Restore option is greyed out, because it is already restored?

When you clikc on Minimise, does the Restore option suddenly reappear?

AQ Has anybody had this phantom CC problem, and if so, how did you
AQ solve it? I´m using W98 and TB 1.53d

Someone here on the list should remember in which registry key the
setting for size and location are stored. And what the default values
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Re[2]: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-11-30 Thread Arturo Quirantes

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Hola Thomas,

El día 30/11/2001, a las 10:07, escribiste:

 Hi Arturo,

 On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 08:53:20 +0100GMT (30/11/2001, 15:53 +0800GMT),
 Arturo Quirantes wrote:

AQ I have a related problem. I get the CC in the taskbar, but
cannot
AQ make it appear!

 How about Maximise? Maybe the size is set to zero or something, so
 that's why you don't see it. Maybe also it is located off the
 screen, so that Restore option is greyed out, because it is already
 restored?  

Maybe, because I cannot maximize, either.

 When you clikc on Minimise, does the Restore option suddenly
 reappear?  

Yes, it does (and it´s the only option then available).

 Someone here on the list should remember in which registry key the
 setting for size and location are stored. And what the default
 values are, to which you should set them.

I also had the idea that it might be off the screen, but I
have been unable to find the size/location data in the registry is.
First one to find it can consider him/herself invited to paella next
time you come to Granada, Spain.


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Re: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-11-30 Thread Thomas F

Hi Arturo,

On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 10:10:46 +0100GMT (30/11/2001, 17:10 +0800GMT),
Arturo Quirantes wrote:

 How about Maximise?

AQ Maybe, because I cannot maximize, either.

Of all the options in the context menu, whcih oens are available?

 When you clikc on Minimise, does the Restore option suddenly
 reappear?  

AQ Yes, it does (and it´s the only option then available).

You mean the Close option is not available, either? I am asking
because what you say seems to prove my theory, but there might still
be anotehr reason.

 Someone here on the list should remember in which registry key the
 setting for size and location are stored. And what the default
 values are, to which you should set them.

AQ I also had the idea that it might be off the screen, but I
AQ have been unable to find the size/location data in the registry is.

Just looked, no luck either. :-(

AQ First one to find it can consider him/herself invited to paella next
AQ time you come to Granada, Spain.

That promise alone made me search the registry manually! ;-)

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Re: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-11-30 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Arturo,
On 30 Nov 2001 at 10:10:46 [GMT +0100], you wrote:

AQ First one to find it can consider him/herself invited to paella
AQ next time you come to Granada, Spain.

OK, what about this one:

HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/RAS (Top|Left|Height|Width)

Well, how's the weather in Spain at the moment? :-) In Germany it's
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Re[2]: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-11-30 Thread Arturo Quirantes

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Hola Thomas,

El día 30/11/2001, a las 11:53, escribiste:

 Hi Arturo,

 On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 10:10:46 +0100GMT (30/11/2001, 17:10 +0800GMT),
 Arturo Quirantes wrote:

 How about Maximise?

AQ Maybe, because I cannot maximize, either.

 Of all the options in the context menu, whcih oens are available?

 When you clikc on Minimise, does the Restore option suddenly
 reappear?

AQ Yes, it does (and it´s the only option then available).

 You mean the Close option is not available, either? I am asking
 because what you say seems to prove my theory, but there might
 still be anotehr reason.

Well, it does:

- When I press Alt+F2, the CC shows in the taskbar.  The
options available are: Move, Size, Minimize, Close.

- If i Minimize, the options available are Restore and
Close.

 Someone here on the list should remember in which registry key
 the setting for size and location are stored. And what the
 default values are, to which you should set them.

AQ I also had the idea that it might be off the screen, but
I
AQ have been unable to find the size/location data in the registry
is.

 Just looked, no luck either. :-(

Lars Geiger suggested:

 HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/RAS (Top|Left|Height|Width)

I checked out, and the RAS decimal values are: 31 (Height),
160 (Width), 3000 (Left, Top).  3000 seems a bit too much, so I
lowered to 100, to no avail.

Most shocking, in the Editor and Source Viewer subfolders,
the values of Left and Top were 2147483694 !  A little too high,
don´t you think?  Other piece of information: just before this
problem first arose, Windows advised me of some problem with the
registry.  It said it had repaired it, but I´m not so sure.  Doh!

AQ First one to find it can consider him/herself invited to paella
next
AQ time you come to Granada, Spain.

 That promise alone made me search the registry manually! ;-)

Maybe the way out of the dotcom crisis is easier than we
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Re: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-11-30 Thread Thomas F

Hi Arturo,

On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:02:42 +0100GMT (30/11/2001, 19:02 +0800GMT),
Arturo Quirantes wrote:

AQ - When I press Alt+F2, the CC shows in the taskbar.

You can also choose Options / Preferences / Display Connection Center:
Always.

AQ The options available are: Move, Size, Minimize, Close.

This means the window is open.

AQ - If i Minimize, the options available are Restore and Close.

This means the window is minimised.

It proves my theory that the size is either zero or the window off the
screen.

AQ Lars Geiger suggested:

AQ  HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/RAS (Top|Left|Height|Width)

AQ I checked out, and the RAS decimal values are: 31 (Height),
AQ 160 (Width), 3000 (Left, Top).  3000 seems a bit too much, so I
AQ lowered to 100, to no avail.

Is RAS the Connection Center?

AQ Most shocking, in the Editor and Source Viewer subfolders,
AQ the values of Left and Top were 2147483694 !  A little too high,
AQ don´t you think?  Other piece of information: just before this
AQ problem first arose, Windows advised me of some problem with the
AQ registry.  It said it had repaired it, but I´m not so sure.  Doh!

Could well be the problem. Do you have a backup of your reg key? FYI
whenever I backup TB, I also backup its reg key.

AQ First one to find it can consider him/herself invited to paella
AQ next time you come to Granada, Spain.

 That promise alone made me search the registry manually! ;-)

AQ Maybe the way out of the dotcom crisis is easier than we thought
AQ ;-)

By offering Paella? ;-)

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Re[2]: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-11-30 Thread Arturo Quirantes

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Hola Thomas,

El día 30/11/2001, a las 12:37, escribiste:

 It proves my theory that the size is either zero or the window off
 the screen.

AQ Lars Geiger suggested:

AQ  HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/RAS (Top|Left|Height|Width)

AQ I checked out, and the RAS decimal values are: 31
(Height),
AQ 160 (Width), 3000 (Left, Top).  3000 seems a bit too much, so I
AQ lowered to 100, to no avail.

 Is RAS the Connection Center?

I don´t know.  Might be.  Anyway, the Top and Left
values (no RAS) have also vry high values, and Width (no RAS)
is zero!

But it gets weirder. I open the Registry Editor, change
those values (as well as the RAS ones) to reasonable values, save,
go back to TB, and it doesn´t work.  Back to the Registry Editor:
now the values are same as before making any change!  Seems like
there´s a won´t-let-you-repair-it mode on!  I´m starting to lose
faith in the whole Registry.  I´ll keep trying

 Could well be the problem. Do you have a backup of your reg key?
 FYI whenever I backup TB, I also backup its reg key.

Unfortunately, I never did backup the reg. key.  I mean, the
entire Windows registry.  Is there a separate copy of TB registry,
anywhere?  FWIW, I have another copy of TB in a different computer,
so I think I will now export the bad reg and compare to the good
one.

AQ Maybe the way out of the dotcom crisis is easier than we thought
AQ ;-)

 By offering Paella? ;-)

Well, all people need is a good incentive.  And I don´t see
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Re: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-11-30 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Arturo,

On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:02:42 +0100GMT (30-11-2001, 12:02 +0100GMT,
where I live), you wrote:

 Just looked, no luck either. :-(
AQ Lars Geiger suggested:
AQ  HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/RAS (Top|Left|Height|Width)

And those will do fine, they work for me.

AQ I checked out, and the RAS decimal values are: 31 (Height),
AQ 160 (Width), 3000 (Left, Top).  3000 seems a bit too much, so I
AQ lowered to 100, to no avail.

I've got height 364, left 231, top 156 and width 484. Screen
resolution is 800x600.
When editing the registry you should remember to close TB, edit the
registry and restart TB, than the new entries should work.


AQ Most shocking, in the Editor and Source Viewer subfolders,
AQ the values of Left and Top were 2147483694 !  A little too high,
AQ don´t you think?  Other piece of information: just before this
AQ problem first arose, Windows advised me of some problem with the
AQ registry.  It said it had repaired it, but I´m not so sure.  Doh!

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Re: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-11-30 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Thomas,
On 30 Nov 2001 at 19:16:07 [GMT +0800], you wrote:

TF Is RAS the Connection Center?

AFAIK, RAS stands for remote access service. That's the name used for
the dial up mechanism in Windows, so I thought that the meaning is the
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Re[2]: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-11-30 Thread Arturo Quirantes

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Hola Roelof,

SUCCESS!!!  I finally got to change and save the reg.
settings, and now I got the CC back.  Certainly, it was a registry
problem.  Well, now I know better about reg matters, including
backups!

Thank to all of you who gave me a hand.  Roelof and Thomas
won the paella (half each) for their good suggestions.  Lars also
gets a second price (ham and gazpacho fine for you?), and BTW,
weather in Granada is fine, cold but sunny, with a sky resort 30 km
away, an Arab palace in the landscape and the beach down south. What
are you waiting for?  Come and get your award!

Tx.  Arturo Q.

El día 30/11/2001, a las 15:43, escribiste:

 Hello Arturo,

 On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:02:42 +0100GMT (30-11-2001, 12:02 +0100GMT,
 where I live), you wrote:

 Just looked, no luck either. :-(
AQ Lars Geiger suggested:
AQ  HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/RAS (Top|Left|Height|Width)


AQ Most shocking, in the Editor and Source Viewer
subfolders,
AQ the values of Left and Top were 2147483694 !  A little too high,
AQ don´t you think?  Other piece of information: just before this
AQ problem first arose, Windows advised me of some problem with the
AQ registry.  It said it had repaired it, but I´m not so sure. 
Doh!

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Re: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-11-30 Thread Thomas F

Hello Arturo,

On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 15:48:29 +0100 GMT (30/11/2001, 22:48 +0800 GMT),
Arturo Quirantes wrote:

AQ SUCCESS!!!

:-)))

AQ Thank to all of you who gave me a hand. Roelof and Thomas won the
AQ paella (half each) for their good suggestions.

happily jumping up and down in anticipation of the paella

AQ Lars also gets a second price (ham and gazpacho fine for you?),

Lars, say yes: jamon Serrano and a good Andalusian gazpacho. You
can't beat it (well, only with a paella...)

AQ and BTW, weather in Granada is fine, cold but sunny, with a sky
AQ resort 30 km away, an Arab palace in the landscape and the beach
AQ down south. What are you waiting for? Come and get your award!

I will be in Granada in the second quarter of next year, I just
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Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-11-29 Thread Ido Daisuke

Hi all,

  I was wondering if there is a way to make appear the connection center
  only when TB isn't minimise.

  I'd like to not see it in the taskbar each time it check my mails when
  TB is minimised.

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Re: Connection center only when TB not minimise ?

2001-11-29 Thread Arturo Quirantes

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El día 30/11/2001, a las 8:48, escribiste:

 Hi all,

   I was wondering if there is a way to make appear the connection
 center 
   only when TB isn't minimise.

   I'd like to not see it in the taskbar each time it check my mails
 when 
   TB is minimised.

I have a related problem.  I get the CC in the taskbar, but
cannot make it appear!

Alex Leschinsky, from RITlabs, told me to restore the window
(CC, I guess) from its minimized form when I send/receive, but to no
avail: the restore option in the right-button menu is grayed out.

Has anybody had this phantom CC problem, and if so, how
did you solve it?  I´m using W98 and TB 1.53d

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Salu2.  Arturo Quirantes
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