Re: Corrupted attachments

2000-12-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez 

Hallo Gerd,

On Sun, 3 Dec 2000 17:37:56 +0100 GMT (04/12/2000, 00:37 +0800 GMT),
Gerd Ewald wrote:

GE> I tried all three possibilties and tested it with open files. I created a
GE> word-doc which was already saved on hd and opened it in word. I sent four
GE> mails to my second account using different ways of attaching.

GE> b) DOC-File opened tmp-version attached as MIME: unreadable, only fragments
GE> of text.

I am not sure the tmp-version is supposed to yield positive results.

GE> c) DOC-File (not opened tmp-version) attached as quoted-printable:
GE> unreadable, not compatible

I think here we got it: quoted-printable doesn't seem to work for .doc
attachments (and maybe other non-ASCII).

Ville Vels, (original poster): have you set quoted-printable? If so,
does your error persist when you switch to something else?

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Re: Corrupted attachments

2000-12-03 Thread Ville Vels 

Hello all,

Thanks for all the suggestions. I checked the attachement options and
all of them were on default values (MIME/Base64). I have never changed
them. I scanned the computer for viruses with latest antivirus
definitions and nothing. I also tried to recreate the problem by
sending several Word attachements to my own email address (different
settings MIME, Quoted-Printable, UUEncoded) and every attachement
turned up to be ok. That definitely does not mean that the problem is
gone. It just didn't occur this time. Next time when it happens I will
try to note down all the conditions (any open programs and Word
documents) and then let you know. Thanks for the help.

PS! I use Win98, Word 2000 and The Bat! 1.47

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Re: Corrupted attachments

2000-12-03 Thread Gerd Ewald 

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Hello Ming-Li !


On Sun, 3 Dec 2000 07:20:48 -0800 GMT your local time,
which was 03.12.2000, 16:20 (GMT+0100) where I live, you wrote:

>> What happens to files that are attached using the option
>> "Quoted-printable" or "UU-encoded"? Could this cause an
>> incompatibility with others?

[...]

> Please make sure the
> files are closed (though I'm not sure it's relevant) when TB are
> doing the job.

I tried all three possibilties and tested it with open files. I created a
word-doc which was already saved on hd and opened it in word. I sent four
mails to my second account using different ways of attaching.

a) DOC-File (not the opened tmp-version) attached as MIME: positive result
b) DOC-File opened tmp-version attached as MIME: unreadable, only fragments
of text.
c) DOC-File (not opened tmp-version) attached as quoted-printable:
unreadable, not compatible
d) DOC-File 8not opened tmp-version) attached as UU-encoded: positive
result.



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Re: Corrupted attachments

2000-12-03 Thread Manfred Ell 

On 03-12-2000 at 11:57:16GMT +0200 (which was 9:57 where I live)
Ville Vels wrote regarding the subject of "Corrupted attachments"

VV> Hello,

VV> I'm a registered user of The Bat!. I use the program every day at work
VV> and I usually send about 10 - 15 attachments (Word documents) in a
VV> day. The problem is that many people reply to my mail and comlain that
VV> they cannot open the Word documents I have sent to them. When I check my
VV> "sent mail" folder and try to open the sent attachment from there then
VV> I cannot open it either! I even tried to save the file from the sent
VV> email back to my hard disk and it didnt open from there either. I
VV> found out that the attatched file is a few kilobytes smaller than the
VV> actual file should be (for example the last file I sent was supposed
VV> to be 70KB but after sending it was only 55KB). If I send the file
VV> again, then it's ok. It happens randomly. I really cannot use The Bat!
VV> like this anymore because the problem is quite frequent. I think that
VV> this is a bug in The Bat! I have tried both the 1.47 version and the
VV> 1.48 Beta versions and the problem is still there. Any suggestions?


Hello Ville,

each word attachment, which is included via "utilties-attach_files-quoted
printable" becomes corrupted.
So maybe this is the reason for your problems. And I wonder if this a
bug.

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Re: Corrupted attachments

2000-12-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez 

Hallo Ming-Li,

On Sun, 3 Dec 2000 07:20:48 -0800 GMT (03/12/2000, 23:20 +0800 GMT),
Ming-Li wrote:

ML> Please make sure the files are closed (though I'm not sure it's
ML> relevant) when TB are doing the job.

Could be. I recall printing errors when printing attachments out of TB
while they were open in Word at the same time.

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Re: Corrupted attachments

2000-12-03 Thread Ming-Li 

On Sunday, December 03, 2000, 3:33:27 AM, Gerd wrote:

> What happens to files that are attached using the option
> "Quoted-printable" or "UU-encoded"? Could this cause an
> incompatibility with others?

Please also check to see if you have the "Bind attachments only
while sending out mail" option checked. That option determines when
TB would attach the files to your message. Please make sure the
files are closed (though I'm not sure it's relevant) when TB are
doing the job.

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Re: Corrupted attachments

2000-12-03 Thread Jan Rifkinson 

Hello Ville,

   On Sunday, December 03, 2000 @ 11:57:16 +0200, you wrote the
   following about "Corrupted attachments"
  

Ville> I'm a registered user of The Bat!. I use the program every day
Ville> at work and I usually send about 10 - 15 attachments (Word
Ville> documents) in a day. The problem is that many people reply to
Ville> my mail and comlain that they cannot open the Word documents I
Ville> have sent to them. [...]

After reading your msg, I created a test eMail & dragged a Word.doc
onto the eMail window (thus creating an attachment). I sent the test
msg to myself. When it arrived I opened the Word.doc w/o any trouble.
I have not added any special settings for this process & I'm happy to
check my settings if that will help you.

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Re: Re[2]: Corrupted attachments

2000-12-03 Thread Mark Aston 

On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Joseph Then wrote:

> I have been using The Bat! to send my Word attachment for a long time and have
> not met with any problems yet. Vels, you should follow Gerd's
> suggestion.
>
> I set mine to "No changes". Maybe you could check that out.
>
> If the above fails, here's my suggestion: Get another PC and install
> the same version. If it works for that machine, it means that you may
> have a setting that caused the problem and it is best to
> reinstall(wipe the old program CLEAN) your original PC.

Good grief!! That sounds a bit drastic

> If it still won't work... Hmm... anyone else has a suggestion?

Firstly update your virus patterns, there is a small chance that some Word
Macro virus could be at work.

Second send yourself an attachment from another MUA, see if that is OK
when received in TB! and your alternate MUA. When you attach a file you
should see an *increase* in the overall size by about 30%, I use base64
for attachments and have never experienced a problem with TB!


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Re[2]: Corrupted attachments

2000-12-03 Thread Joseph Then 

I have been using The Bat! to send my Word attachment for a long time and have
not met with any problems yet. Vels, you should follow Gerd's suggestion.

I set mine to "No changes". Maybe you could check that out.

If the above fails, here's my suggestion: Get another PC and install the same version.
If it works for that machine, it means that you may have a setting that caused
the problem and it is best to reinstall(wipe the old program CLEAN) your original PC.

If it still won't work... Hmm... anyone else has a suggestion?

Sunday, December 03, 2000, 7:33:27 PM, you wrote:

GE> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
GE> Hash: SHA1

GE> Hello Ville Vels !


GE> On Sun, 3 Dec 2000 11:57:16 +0200 GMT your local time,
GE> which was 03.12.2000, 10:57 (GMT+0100) where I live, you wrote:

GE> [...]
>>  The problem is that many people reply to my mail and comlain that
>> they cannot open the Word documents I have sent to them. When I check my
>> "sent mail" folder and try to open the sent attachment from there then
>> I cannot open it either!
GE> [...]

GE> It's not really an answer I send, but an idea: when I attach files, I
GE> usually take the option MIME-coded.

GE> What happens to files that are attached using the option "Quoted-printable"
GE> or "UU-encoded"? Could this cause an incompatibility with others?

GE> Ville, did you by chance use one of these options to send your attachments?


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Re: Corrupted attachments

2000-12-03 Thread Manfred Ell 

On 03-12-2000 at 12:33:27GMT +0100 (which was 11:33 where I live)
Gerd Ewald wrote regarding the subject of "Corrupted attachments"

GE> [...]
>>  The problem is that many people reply to my mail and comlain that
>> they cannot open the Word documents I have sent to them. When I check my
>> "sent mail" folder and try to open the sent attachment from there then
>> I cannot open it either!
GE> [...]

GE> It's not really an answer I send, but an idea: when I attach files, I
GE> usually take the option MIME-coded.

GE> What happens to files that are attached using the option "Quoted-printable"
GE> or "UU-encoded"? Could this cause an incompatibility with others?



Hello Gerd,

I have tested around and it just happened to me!
When using "attach files quoted printable" the attachment became corrupted.
It didn't happen with the other 2 options (mime, uue).
I think this must be a bug, so I'm crossposting to TBBETA for them to test
also.

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Re: Corrupted attachments

2000-12-03 Thread Gerd Ewald 

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Hello Ville Vels !


On Sun, 3 Dec 2000 11:57:16 +0200 GMT your local time,
which was 03.12.2000, 10:57 (GMT+0100) where I live, you wrote:

[...]
>  The problem is that many people reply to my mail and comlain that
> they cannot open the Word documents I have sent to them. When I check my
> "sent mail" folder and try to open the sent attachment from there then
> I cannot open it either!
[...]

It's not really an answer I send, but an idea: when I attach files, I
usually take the option MIME-coded.

What happens to files that are attached using the option "Quoted-printable"
or "UU-encoded"? Could this cause an incompatibility with others?

Ville, did you by chance use one of these options to send your attachments?


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Re: Corrupted attachments

2000-12-03 Thread Manfred Ell 

On 03-12-2000 at 11:57:16GMT +0200 (which was 9:57 where I live)
Ville Vels wrote regarding the subject of "Corrupted attachments"

VV> Hello,

VV> I'm a registered user of The Bat!. I use the program every day at work
VV> and I usually send about 10 - 15 attachments (Word documents) in a
VV> day. The problem is that many people reply to my mail and comlain that
VV> they cannot open the Word documents I have sent to them. When I check my
VV> "sent mail" folder and try to open the sent attachment from there then
VV> I cannot open it either! I even tried to save the file from the sent
VV> email back to my hard disk and it didnt open from there either. I
VV> found out that the attatched file is a few kilobytes smaller than the
VV> actual file should be (for example the last file I sent was supposed
VV> to be 70KB but after sending it was only 55KB). If I send the file
VV> again, then it's ok. It happens randomly. I really cannot use The Bat!
VV> like this anymore because the problem is quite frequent. I think that
VV> this is a bug in The Bat! I have tried both the 1.47 version and the
VV> 1.48 Beta versions and the problem is still there. Any suggestions?


Hello Ville,

I cannot confirm this. Though I don't send attachments as frequently as you
do, I never had a problem so far ( at least it hasn't been brought to my
attention).

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Corrupted attachments

2000-12-03 Thread Ville Vels 

Hello,

I'm a registered user of The Bat!. I use the program every day at work
and I usually send about 10 - 15 attachments (Word documents) in a
day. The problem is that many people reply to my mail and comlain that
they cannot open the Word documents I have sent to them. When I check my
"sent mail" folder and try to open the sent attachment from there then
I cannot open it either! I even tried to save the file from the sent
email back to my hard disk and it didnt open from there either. I
found out that the attatched file is a few kilobytes smaller than the
actual file should be (for example the last file I sent was supposed
to be 70KB but after sending it was only 55KB). If I send the file
again, then it's ok. It happens randomly. I really cannot use The Bat!
like this anymore because the problem is quite frequent. I think that
this is a bug in The Bat! I have tried both the 1.47 version and the
1.48 Beta versions and the problem is still there. Any suggestions?

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