Re: File Location, Permission, Spell Checker, etc.

2004-12-07 Thread Chris

Dan Grunberg @ 2004-Dec-6 10:32:24 AM
File Location, Permission, Spell Checker, etc. mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To change the location of user dictionaries:

   1. What keys have to be changed? Changed from what to what?

HKCU\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Speller\#\User Lexicons\...
where # is probably a language ID, like 30840.

   2. Would the registry changes work if I were using XP Home?

Yes, they should.

   3. Would there be any side effects to look out for?

insert standard registry editing warning here

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Re: File Location, Permission, Spell Checker, etc.

2004-12-06 Thread Dan Grunberg
Wed, 1 Dec 2004 18:22:08 -0500 (6:22 PM EST here) Chris wrote:

 Dan Grunberg @ 2004-Dec-1 10:30:19 AM File Location, Permission,
 Spell Checker, etc. mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 If the DEFAULT location for The Bat!'s files became
 CSIDL_APPDATA\Rit Labs\The Bat!\ or some variant thereof, these
 problems would be solved. Axillary files, like BayseIt files and
 the custom dictionary would need to be moved there also.

 For those of us who want to have control over where our data files
 are stored, those options would still remain.

 Is this procedure correct?

1. Spelling. Keep each email account's home directory in a user
controlled folder structure.

 TheBat! + Account + Files  directories

   Home Directory {Browse]

   etc.

 Yes. Currently, those changes require modifying the registry.
 However, I think that the custom dictionary should be stored in the
 user's mail directory, not in The Bat!'s program directory. Each
 user has his or hew own custom dictionary. I may want
 antidifferentiation to be considered correct, while another user may
 not.

 (If not, how do you redirect TheBat! to the TheBats applications
 data?)

 The default should be that the user's mail goes into
 CSIDL_APPDATA\Rit Labs\The Bat!\. Normally this would be
 C:\Documents and Settings\%USERNAME%\Application Data\Rit Labs\The
 Bat!, but a network administrator could change it to
 \\server.company.com\Roaming Data\%USERNAME%\Application Data\Rit
 Labs\The Bat!.


I am my system's administrator. I've used Regedit before.

  1. What keys have to be changed? Changed from what to what?

  2. Would the registry changes work if I were using XP Home?

  3. Would there be any side effects to look out for?


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Re: File Location, Permission, Spell Checker, etc.

2004-12-01 Thread Dan Grunberg
Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:57:11 -0500 (9:57 PM EST here) Chris wrote:

 Chris @ 2003-Nov-27 10:53:46 PM File Locations
 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Why does The Bat! insist on putting data files in its own directory?
 In theory, normal users should not be able to modify the contents of
 The Bat!'s directory. Therefore, The Bat! should store its data files
 in the user's home directory (%userprofile%\Application Data\The Bat!
 [There is a better way to get the path of the Application Data
 directory {it can be redirected}, using the API SHGetFolderPath()
 {this may be getting to technical}]).

Actually, only too technical for us hardware old time engineers and,
more practical non-cyber techies. |grin|

 If the DEFAULT location for The Bat!'s files became
 CSIDL_APPDATA\Rit Labs\The Bat!\ or some variant thereof, these
 problems would be solved. Axillary files, like BayseIt files and the
 custom dictionary would need to be moved there also.

 For those of us who want to have control over where our data files
 are stored, those options would still remain.

Is this procedure correct?

   1. Spelling. Keep each email account's home directory in a user
  controlled folder structure.

TheBat! + Account + Files  directories

  Home Directory {Browse]

  etc.

  (If not, how do you redirect TheBat! to the TheBats
  applications data?)


   2. BayesIt. The BayesIt files and data can be put in any user
  controlled directory created for the purpose. Just tell TheBat!
  where you put BayesIt, by install BayesIT in a user controlled
  folder) via 

TheBat! + Options + Preferences

Protection + Anti-spam

 (If not how?)








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Re: File Location, Permission, Spell Checker, etc.

2004-12-01 Thread Chris

Dan Grunberg @ 2004-Dec-1 10:30:19 AM
File Location, Permission, Spell Checker, etc. mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 If the DEFAULT location for The Bat!'s files became
 CSIDL_APPDATA\Rit Labs\The Bat!\ or some variant thereof, these
 problems would be solved. Axillary files, like BayseIt files and the
 custom dictionary would need to be moved there also.

 For those of us who want to have control over where our data files
 are stored, those options would still remain.

 Is this procedure correct?

1. Spelling. Keep each email account's home directory in a user
   controlled folder structure.

 TheBat! + Account + Files  directories

   Home Directory {Browse]

   etc.

Yes. Currently, those changes require modifying the registry. However,
I think that the custom dictionary should be stored in the user's mail
directory, not in The Bat!'s program directory. Each user has his or
hew own custom dictionary. I may want antidifferentiation to be
considered correct, while another user may not.

 (If not, how do you redirect TheBat! to the TheBats applications
 data?)

The default should be that the user's mail goes into CSIDL_APPDATA\Rit
Labs\The Bat!\. Normally this would be C:\Documents and
Settings\%USERNAME%\Application Data\Rit Labs\The Bat!, but a network
administrator could change it to \\server.company.com\Roaming
Data\%USERNAME%\Application Data\Rit Labs\The Bat!.


2. BayesIt. The BayesIt files and data can be put in any user
   controlled directory created for the purpose. Just tell TheBat!
   where you put BayesIt, by install BayesIT in a user controlled
   folder) via 

 TheBat! + Options + Preferences

 Protection + Anti-spam

I think that the BayseIt program files should be installed once, for
all users. For example, in C:\Program Files\The
Bat!\Plugins\BayseIt. Each user would then have his or her own
BayseIt data files stored else where, for example
CSIDL_APPDATA\BayseIt. Then, each user would have a personally
trained BayseIt. For example, one user may consider Amazon.com
promotional e-mail messages junk, while another may not. Currently,
both users compete when it comes to BayseIt.

Generally, NO user data should be stored in The Bat!'s directory. Any
personal user data needs to be in personal folders, defaulting to the
aforementioned location. Any data shared between users, such as a
computer-wide custom dictionary (containing a company's product names,
for example) should be stored in the All Users directory.

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File Location, Permission, Spell Checker, etc.

2004-11-30 Thread Chris

These recent threads of conversation remind me of something I said
about a year ago.

Chris @ 2003-Nov-27 10:53:46 PM
File Locations mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Why does The Bat! insist on putting data files in its own directory?
 In theory, normal users should not be able to modify the contents of
 The Bat!'s directory. Therefore, The Bat! should store its data files
 in the user's home directory (%userprofile%\Application Data\The Bat!
 [There is a better way to get the path of the Application Data
 directory {it can be redirected}, using the API SHGetFolderPath()
 {this may be getting to technical}]).

If the DEFAULT location for The Bat!'s files became
CSIDL_APPDATA\Rit Labs\The Bat!\ or some variant thereof, these
problems would be solved. Axillary files, like BayseIt files and the
custom dictionary would need to be moved there also.

For those of us who want to have control over where our data files are
stored, those options would still remain.

In a message one day later, I said:
Chris @ 2003-Nov-27 11:05:48 PM
File Locations mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Changing the way The Bat! stores file would solve the problems
 mentioned in the thread Setting up TB! for multiple users?
 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. Global address books and
 other shared files could be stored in the All Users directory.
 Network settings would need to be stored in The Bat!'s directory so
 that they could only be changed by users with permissions (normally
 only administrators).

 Also, these changes will help users of Windows 2000 and Windows XP and
 will NOT break The Bat! on older operating systems. There are user
 profiles and an All Users directory on both Windows 98 and Me (and
 perhaps even 95).

The All Users Application Data directory is CSIDL_COMMON_APPDATA.

What do you guys think?

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