Filter problem?

2007-02-24 Thread Susanne
Hi,

 I upgraded to TB version 3.95.6 and now the
 emails that are not filtered to a special folder
 and previously (version 2.12) landed in my inbox
 are put directly into the Trash folder.

 How can I change it so they get directed into the
 inbox again?

 Also, when I try to change the template for this
 folder to show what version of TB and what OS I'm
 running, the template instantly reverts back to
 its previous incarnation as soon as I add the
 tbudl address in the To: space?!
 What am I missing?

 It's probably something simple, but being just an
 elderly, regular computer user, these
 technicalities always stump me.

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Re: Filter problem?

2007-02-24 Thread Susanne
 

Hi,

Saturday, February 24, 2007, 12:30:42 PM,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Also, when I try to change the template for this
  folder to show what version of TB and what OS I'm
  running, the template instantly reverts back to
  its previous incarnation as soon as I add the
  tbudl address in the To: space?!
  What am I missing?

  It's probably something simple, but being just an
  elderly, regular computer user, these
  technicalities always stump me.


I figured this one out myself.
TB uses address book templates first and after
changing the template to TBUDL there, I get the
correct template for new messages now.

Still looking for help with the messages sent
straight to the Trash, though.

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Re: Filter problem?

2007-02-24 Thread Susanne
 

Hi,

Saturday, February 24, 2007, 1:53:43 PM,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There must be some filter that does this. You can check it in the
 Sorting Office that is accessible through the account menu.


I did, multiple times!
There is no filter designed to send anything to
the Trash folder.

It's all the message that are not filtered to a
specific folder that land in the trash.

In the previous version of TB they were directed
into the Inbox, which is the way I want it to
continue.

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Re: Filter problem?

2007-02-24 Thread Susanne
 

Hi,

Saturday, February 24, 2007, 2:30:12 PM,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I did, multiple times! There is no filter designed to send anything to
 the Trash folder.

 OK. Some spam filtering plugin?

Yes, the BayesIT! plug in that came with TB.

But why would it sent everything not filtered
otherwise into the Trash folder, instead of the
Junk folder it's supposed to create?

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Re: Filter problem?

2007-02-24 Thread Feli Wilcke
Hello Susanne,

On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 14:42:36 -0800GMT Susanne wrote:
S Saturday, February 24, 2007, 2:30:12 PM,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OK. Some spam filtering plugin?

S Yes, the BayesIT! plug in that came with TB.

S But why would it sent everything not filtered
S otherwise into the Trash folder, instead of the
S Junk folder it's supposed to create?

Did you train the filter? Feed it with the same amount of spam and ham
and it will know afterwards what to put to the inbox and what to the
trash folder.

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Re: Filter problem?

2007-02-24 Thread Susanne
 

Hi,

Saturday, February 24, 2007, 3:20:51 PM,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Did you train the filter? Feed it with the same amount of spam and ham
 and it will know afterwards what to put to the inbox and what to the
 trash folder.

Well, nothing is marked as spam, or put into the
Junk folder for spam, so I'm not at all sure it
has anything to do with the spam filter.

I didn't see a training option when I set up the
filter.
Where can that be found?

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Re: Filter problem?

2007-02-24 Thread Feli Wilcke
Hello Susanne,

On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 15:30:18 -0800GMT Susanne wrote:

S I didn't see a training option when I set up the
S filter.
S Where can that be found?

There is no special trainig option, you do this by defining a mail as
Spam or Ham. You can use the menu Specials/Mark as Junk or Specials/Mark NOT
Junk or you can define a shortcut to these two commands. I use alt+j
for Junk and alt+h for Ham.

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Re: Filter problem?

2007-02-24 Thread Gene
Hello Susanne,

Saturday, February 24, 2007, 6:30:18 PM, you wrote:

S  

S Hi,

S Saturday, February 24, 2007, 3:20:51 PM,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Did you train the filter? Feed it with the same amount of spam and ham
 and it will know afterwards what to put to the inbox and what to the
 trash folder.

S Well, nothing is marked as spam, or put into the
S Junk folder for spam, so I'm not at all sure it
S has anything to do with the spam filter.

S I didn't see a training option when I set up the
S filter.
S Where can that be found?

As I understand it, your BayseIT! is no longer working

Others may have a more eloquent take on this, but the last few
versions of The Bat! have taken it upon themselves to delete BayesIT!
from your computer.

Ritlabs' position is that BayesIT! was not reliable and they are saving
you from yourself.

Personally, I think that is just wrong and I am quite able to make
these decisions on my own, but if you use The Bat! installer, it *will*
delete BayesIT!

I guess, as my old 8th grade science teacher admonished us
forewarned is forearmed

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Re: Filter problem?

2007-02-24 Thread Susanne
 

Hi,

Saturday, February 24, 2007, 3:39:21 PM,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There is no special trainig option, you do this by defining a mail as
 Spam or Ham.

Thanks!

Just a question though: if the spam filter sends
messages to the trash, would they be marked as
spam?

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Re: Filter problem?

2007-02-24 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Sat 24-Feb-07 2:30pm -0600, Susanne wrote:

 I upgraded to TB version 3.95.6 and now the
 emails that are not filtered to a special folder
 and previously (version 2.12) landed in my inbox
 are put directly into the Trash folder.

 How can I change it so they get directed into the
 inbox again?

Right click on one of those misdirected mails in Trash and
pick Test Filters.  With only Incoming Mail checked, click
OK to see what put that message in Trash.

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Re: Filter problem?

2007-02-24 Thread Feli Wilcke
Hello Susanne,

On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 15:53:28 -0800GMT Susanne wrote:

S Just a question though: if the spam filter sends
S messages to the trash, would they be marked as
S spam?

What is marked in Options/Preferences/Anti-Spam as target for the
detected spam? If it's the trash folder then the plugin deteced all
these mails in the trash folder as spam and there is no need to mark
them again.

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Re[2]: Filter problem

2007-02-09 Thread Joyce Ragels
Hello Roelof,

Thursday, February 8, 2007, 10:27:26 AM, you wrote:

 1) Check whether your filters are active (on the options tab), that is
 the default, so that shouldn't be the cause.

 2) Check whether the message is processed by another filter, filters
 are checked top down and a message processed by filter one won't
 trigger filter two as it won't be matched against the other filters
 unless filter one has the option 'continue processing with other
 filters' set. The sequence of your filters is very important.

 3) Are you sure you created incoming filters and not outgoing, read or
 replied filters?

  It isn't 1 or 3 so it has to be 2.  I have put my folders as
  subfolders of Inbox, but all the mail is going just to the Inbox. I
  want it to go into individual folders within the Inbox folder

  1. I have one set...
  Name is the name of the folder
  Condition is set as the sender and has their email address
  Action is move to the folder \\Joyce Ragels\Inbox\Personal

  What other settings could there be?

  Suggestion?


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Re[2]: Filter problem

2007-02-09 Thread Joyce Ragels
Hello,

Friday, February 9, 2007, 1:00:00 PM, you wrote:


 As Roelof said - check out the order of the filters in the Sorting
 Office again. :-) Make sure that the Known filter (if you have it)
 comes *after* the other filters you created.

 Try to move one of the filters that should sort messages into a
 subfolder all the way up to the top to see if it works then.

 You can move the filters via drag  drop while keeping the ALT key
 pressed, or right-click the filter in question and select Move Up (or
 Down) from the context menu.

 If you tried all that without success, you can press CTRL+C to copy
 the filter to the clipboard. You can then paste it into a message to
 this list, so that others can check it (to see if anything is wrong with
 the filter conditions).

  For whatever reason, I was able to set up filters without a hitch
  using create filter under the Specials menu.  That worked just
  like it should.

  Thank you.

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Filter problem

2007-02-08 Thread Joyce Ragels
Hello TBUDL,

I'm a brand new Bat user and I'm trying to set up my filters without
success.

Here is what I have done:

Clicked on Sorting office icon
Account shows my name
Tab is General
Name - Indiana
Sender contains - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Under actions I have move to \\Joyce Ragels\Inbox\Indiana

Now when this mail comes in, it still goes to my Inbox and not
directly to the Indiana folder.

Could someone please tell me what I am doing wrong.

I have set up another filter going into another folder and I can't get
that one right either.  I've used filters before, but just must have
taken a stupid pill.

Thank you

J

  




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Mod: Cut mark (was: Filter problem)

2007-02-08 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Joyce,

On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:11:55 -0700GMT (8-2-2007, 18:11, where I live),
you wrote:

JR Thank you

JR J

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You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in
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Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any
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Re: Filter problem

2007-02-08 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Joyce,

On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:11:55 -0700GMT (8-2-2007, 18:11 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

JR I have set up another filter going into another folder and I can't get
JR that one right either.  I've used filters before, but just must have
JR taken a stupid pill.

1) Check whether your filters are active (on the options tab), that is
the default, so that shouldn't be the cause.

2) Check whether the message is processed by another filter, filters
are checked top down and a message processed by filter one won't
trigger filter two as it won't be matched against the other filters
unless filter one has the option 'continue processing with other
filters' set. The sequence of your filters is very important.

3) Are you sure you created incoming filters and not outgoing, read or
replied filters?

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Bayes Filter Problem

2005-05-15 Thread Barry
Hello all,
I did a fresh install of 3.5 then used a day old backup.
I installed Bayes Filter again, now everytime i close TheBat
i have to reinstall the Bayes Filter. It just wont stay
installed. Anyone have an idea whats up


  

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Filter problem

2005-01-28 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello tbudl,

  I don't know what it is, but I can't get this bad-boy to work.

  I want to manually filter a folder and move any message older than
  45 days into a different folder.

 TB! Message Filter 
beginFilter
UID: [7241B1F8.01C50569.51F67C2A.6B2E98D6]
Name: TBArchive
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`13`0`45\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CCentral\5CLists\5CTB-Archives
IsManual
IsContinue
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter

 Anybody see what's wrong?

 Thanks.


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Re: Filter problem

2005-01-28 Thread MAU
Hello Leif,

  Anybody see what's wrong?

No, because it works here.

I pasted it as an Incoming filter.

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Re: Filter problem

2005-01-28 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello MAU,

Friday, January 28, 2005, 1:00:51 PM, you wrote:
M I pasted it as an Incoming filter.

Hmm. We'll time to dig into this one I guess. Thanks.


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Re: Filter problem

2005-01-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Leif,

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:57:38 -0700GMT (28-1-2005, 19:57 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

LG   I want to manually filter a folder and move any message older than
LG   45 days into a different folder.

Why manually and not automatically?
Set folder specific alternative deletion on and purge on exit on
messages older than 45 days.

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Re: regexp in selective download filter problem

2003-08-29 Thread Carsten Thönges
* Timur Kadyshev [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm trying to filter out messages with From: field containing
 address that starts with 238, and then has three digits before @.
 Regexp I'm using is ^238\d\d\d@ .

Try

(?m)^From:\s*238\d{3}@

any search in the entire header. You have to switch on
PCRE_MULTILINE (see help file) for the circumflex to work.

 I tested this regexp with regular
 filter -- it worked just fine (after I enabled regular expression
 filtering).

In regular filters PCRE_MULTILINE is active by default.
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regexp in selective download filter problem

2003-08-28 Thread Timur Kadyshev
I'm trying to filter out messages with From: field containing
address that starts with 238, and then has three digits before @.
Regexp I'm using is ^238\d\d\d@ . I tested this regexp with regular
filter -- it worked just fine (after I enabled regular expression
filtering). Then I created a Selective Download rule with ^238\d\d\d@
as its Signal String, and checked Match any string as regular expression
at the Advanced tab. This rule does not work. What am I doing wrong?

Here is an example of header of a message that does not filter out:

===
Received: from 68.192.227.68 (ool-44c0e344.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.227.68])
by pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (8.12.4/8.9.2) with SMTP id h7RM5W3W000868
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 18:05:32 -0400 (EDT)
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 06:34:39 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: 1176141317
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: DVD Backup Movies 238989
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
=

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Filter problem yet

2003-01-29 Thread telepro
Hello friends,

I have not resolved my problem of filter

I tried to apply an antispam method by applying a filtering with
alternatives on keywords. The problem is that TB sends to the
folder antispam  created for that purpose, all the mails, same those
who don't contain the strings, with no exception... In fact, it seems that all e-mail 
which is not
filtered with a rule, go in this antispam folder ...

Perhaps, TB doesn't want exclusively alternatives ?

I also discovered that with simply the filter actived (rule active), and no strings in 
rule and no strings in alternatives,
it was the same as if I had
indicated all keywords in alternartives, therefore the problem does
not come from keywords for the reason that all mails are going to spam
folder   (copy of the filter below)

BeginFilter
Name: antispam
Active: 1
Source: \\wanadoo ADSL\Inbox
Target: \\\spam
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: 00
AltSet:1: 30sex
AltSet:1: 30sexy
Actions: faoContinueProcessing
AddGroups: 
DelGroups: 
ForwardTemplate: 
ConfirmTemplate: 
ReplyTemplate: 
FwdAddr: 
RedirectAddr: 
NewAddr: 
NewTemplate: 
ExtCmd: 
ExtFile: 
ExtractDir: 
ColourGroup: défaut
AddAddrItems: afiFrom,
DelAddrItems: afiFrom,
HotKey: 0
IsOfColour: défaut
SizeBigger: 0
SizeSmaller: 0
AgeOlder: 0
AgeNewer: 0
InAddrPos: 0
OutAddrPos: 0
InAddrGroups: 
NoAddrGroups: 
KillFile: 
KillMethod: 0
SaveTemplate: 
SndFile: 
SysSound: 0
SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
EndFilter


Thanks for your help

Friendly

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France



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Re[2]: Filter problem yet

2003-01-29 Thread telepro
Hello Jonathan,


 I tried to apply an antispam method by applying a filtering with
 alternatives on keywords. The problem is that TB sends to the
 folder antispam  created for that purpose, all the mails, same those
 who don't contain the strings, with no exception... In fact, it
 seems that all e-mail which is not
 filtered with a rule, go in this antispam folder ...

 You have nothing in the starting filter.

No, nothing inside !

  Which means it matches ALL
 mail, OR mail with sexy AND sexy in it.

Therefore I'm obliged to put at least one string in the rule ?

  Try putting something in the
 first page (Rules),

I try

I puted an expression
stings  location : presence :
vivivi   kludges   no

 and any other options into the Alternatives
 page.

Others keywords in alternatives ? Ok I do that


It's the same, result, all mail go the spam folder

Thanks

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Re: Filter problem yet

2003-01-29 Thread Jonathan Angliss
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On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, telepro wrote...

 You have nothing in the starting filter.

 No, nothing inside !

  Which means it matches ALL
 mail, OR mail with sexy AND sexy in it.

 Therefore I'm obliged to put at least one string in the rule ?

Not really no, but it depends what you want the filter to do.

 Try putting something in the first page (Rules),

 I try

 I puted an expression
 stings  location : presence :
 vivivi   kludges   no

How many emails do you get that have vivivi in the headers?  That will
again probably catch all your mails again.  If this is a spam filter,
try putting:

Strings Location Presence
sex Anywhere Yes

For the Rule page.

 and any other options into the Alternatives page.

 Others keywords in alternatives ? Ok I do that

Yes, the Rule page is for AND filters, while anything appearing in
the Alternatives page is OR. Usually you want something to appear on
the Rule page as a starting point. For example, sex on the first
page, and on alternatives, you might want to add sets to include
things like marketing, debt, and such.

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Re: Filter problem yet

2003-01-29 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hello telepro,

 I puted an expression
 stings  location : presence :
 vivivi   kludges   no

All your messages match this rule because none of them include
vivivi in the headers (kludges)

I have a similar filter and I use:

strings  location : presence :
XSender Yes

So no message will match this and only those that match one of the
alternatives will me moved to the desired folder.

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Re[2]: Filter problem yet

2003-01-29 Thread telepro
Hello Jonathan,


 Therefore I'm obliged to put at least one string in the rule ?

 Not really no, but it depends what you want the filter to do.

yes an antispam filter !

 Try putting something in the first page (Rules),

 I try

 I puted an expression
 stings  location : presence :
 vivivi   kludges   no

 How many emails do you get that have vivivi in the headers?

Justly no one and I thaught it would go to alternatives !

 again probably catch all your mails again.  If this is a spam filter,
 try putting:

 Strings Location Presence
 sex Anywhere Yes
 For the Rule page.

Ok I dit it

 and any other options into the Alternatives page.

Yes, but the result is that only the mail with the keyword sex go to spam folder ;
others taht contain picks (keyword of alternatives, don't go to
spam folder



 Yes, the Rule page is for AND filters, while anything appearing in
 the Alternatives page is OR.

yes I understood !


 Usually you want something to appear on
 the Rule page as a starting point. For example, sex on the first
 page, and on alternatives, you might want to add sets to include
 things like marketing, debt, and such.

Yes, but at my home, no !

Thank you johnatan for your patience !

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Re: Filter problem yet

2003-01-29 Thread Jonathan Angliss
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On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, telepro wrote...

 again probably catch all your mails again.  If this is a spam filter,
 try putting:

 Strings Location Presence
 sex Anywhere Yes
 For the Rule page.

 Ok I dit it

 and any other options into the Alternatives page.

 Yes, but the result is that only the mail with the keyword sex go
 to spam folder ; others taht contain picks (keyword of
 alternatives, don't go to spam folder

Well this is a start. What I have a feeling is you're adding filter
strings to the alternatives, so that you only have 1 Set in the
alternative rules, instead of multiple sets.  This results in the
following effect:

  [Filter 1] OR [Filter 2 AND Filter 3 AND Filter 4]

Instead of:

  [Filter 1] OR [Filter 2] OR [Filter 3] OR [Filter 4]

What you need to do is when you click on the alternatives tab, after
adding your first Or filter, click the ADD SET button, (not
ALT+INS).  This will create a new Set for you, and you'll end up
with the follow:

[Rules Page]
Strings Location Presence
sex Anywhere Yes

OR

[Alternatives Page]
Strings Location Presence
marketing   Anywhere Yes

OR

Strings Location Presence
debtAnywhere Yes

Hope that gives you an idea.

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Re[2]: Filter problem yet

2003-01-29 Thread telepro
Hello Miguel,

 I puted an expression
 stings  location : presence :
 vivivi   kludges   no

 All your messages match this rule because none of them include
 vivivi in the headers (kludges)

Ok, I understand :-)

 I have a similar filter and I use:

 strings  location : presence :
 XSender Yes

Ok in rules ! Perfect

 So no message will match this and only those that match one of the
 alternatives will me moved to the desired folder.

Ok Perfect ! This with the complement of informations from Jonathan, I
resolved my problem, I thank you so much for you help and your
disponibility

Friendly

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Re[2]: Filter problem yet

2003-01-29 Thread telepro
Hello Jonathan,


 Well this is a start. What I have a feeling is you're adding filter
 strings to the alternatives, so that you only have 1 Set in the
 alternative rules, instead of multiple sets.  This results in the
 following effect:

   [Filter 1] OR [Filter 2 AND Filter 3 AND Filter 4]

 Instead of:

   [Filter 1] OR [Filter 2] OR [Filter 3] OR [Filter 4]

Yes, exactly ! I did Alt/Ins  for insert a new string !!!

 What you need to do is when you click on the alternatives tab, after
 adding your first Or filter, click the ADD SET button, (not
 ALT+INS).  This will create a new Set for you, and you'll end up
 with the follow:

 [Rules Page]
 Strings Location Presence
 sex Anywhere Yes

 OR

 [Alternatives Page]
 Strings Location Presence
 marketing   Anywhere Yes

 OR

 Strings Location Presence
 debtAnywhere Yes

 Hope that gives you an idea.

More than an idea, it resolves my problem definitivly, I thank you so
much Jonathan ; After two days of test, I have a headache but I'm very
happy, TB began to make me crazy ;-)

Thanks both of you, Jonathan and Miguel

Friendly

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Re: Filter problem yet

2003-01-29 Thread Jonathan Angliss
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On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, telepro wrote...

 Hello Jonathan,


 Well this is a start. What I have a feeling is you're adding filter
 strings to the alternatives, so that you only have 1 Set in the
 alternative rules, instead of multiple sets.  This results in the
 following effect:

   [Filter 1] OR [Filter 2 AND Filter 3 AND Filter 4]

 Instead of:

   [Filter 1] OR [Filter 2] OR [Filter 3] OR [Filter 4]

 Yes, exactly ! I did Alt/Ins  for insert a new string !!!

It is a little confusing... I only noticed it when I put your filter
into my sorting office, and saw what you'd done ;)

[..]

 Hope that gives you an idea.

 More than an idea, it resolves my problem definitivly, I thank you
 so much Jonathan ; After two days of test, I have a headache but I'm
 very happy, TB began to make me crazy ;-)

Excellent.. that is good to hear apart from the headache though ;)

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Re-Filter Problem with Replied Message Rule

2002-11-27 Thread Paul Stephen
I have defined this rule (replied messages):

Name: TOSPAMB
Source Folder: SentBCC
Move messages to folder: SPAMB
Filtering Strings: SpamButcher -- Anywhere -- Yes
Rule: Active

Now I have messages with SpamButcher as the Sender in my SentBCC
folder.

Yet when I do a re-filter on Replied Messages, nothing is moved or
found.

Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong?

The re-filter operation works fine with all my rules for incoming mail.

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Re: Filter Problem

2002-10-31 Thread Raj
Venu,

On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, at 07:51:46 [GMT +0530] (which was 7:51 AM where I live) you
wrote:

V Ofice/Filters, the folder does not show up now. So I cannot apply the
V filter.
V It shows up clearly in the Normal view

The  best  way  is  to simply create the filter again. To ensure that you did it
right just follow Marck's first mail when you subscribed for the exact rule.

Shift+Ctrl+F  will  get you the filter rule dialogue on when the focus is on the
message.

..
It  would  probably  be a good idea for you to set up a folder to keep
TBUDL messages in. If you do this, the next most useful thing to have
in place is an automatic filter to move mail from your inbox into your
TBUDL folder.

Set up a filter for incoming mail which looks for 
Strings   LocationPresence
Reply-to: TBUDL   Kludges Yes

..

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Filter Problem

2002-10-30 Thread Venu
Hello tbudl,
I performed a restore from an earlier backup of 'The Bat, then found
the folder containing the TBUDL messages had disappeared.
Ctrl+Alt+Shift brought it back but I find that under 'Sorting
Ofice/Filters, the folder does not show up now. So I cannot apply the
filter.
It shows up clearly in the Normal view
Most of the messages on this list go very high above my head but the
helpful nature of everyone here and their patience make following this
list very enjoyable.
Please help. Again.
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Re: Filter Problem

2002-10-30 Thread Barry2
Hello Venu,

Thursday, October 31, 2002, 2:21:46 AM, you wrote:

V Hello tbudl,
V I performed a restore from an earlier backup of 'The Bat, then found
V the folder containing the TBUDL messages had disappeared.
V Ctrl+Alt+Shift brought it back but I find that under 'Sorting
V Ofice/Filters, the folder does not show up now. So I cannot apply the
V filter.
V It shows up clearly in the Normal view

Try re-creating a filter to that folder ? Is everything else restored
to how it should be ?

V Most of the messages on this list go very high above my head but the
V helpful nature of everyone here and their patience make following this
V list very enjoyable.

Same here, the posts that delve into the far reaches of Bat-dom don't
appeal as of yet, though I generally skim through.

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Re: Filter Problem

2002-10-30 Thread Gary
Hi Barry2,

On Wednesday, October 30, 2002, 8:46 PM, you mentioned about Filter Problem:


B Same here, the posts that delve into the far reaches of Bat-dom don't
B appeal as of yet, though I generally skim through.

To me, that's the beauty of TB!  One can just install it, and have a
superb MUA without basically touching anything, or one can really get into
it and chomp on it, or anywhere in-between.  One has that freedom to
explore the power that lies within.

Just my .0038 pounds ..


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Non-English Characters Filter Problem

2002-03-17 Thread Michael S. Greenbaum

I'm trying to do a filter to get rid of messages with non-English
characters.

I set up a filter called non-English characters and then tried a rule
which put Á | Ä in the Strings box and filtered for Presence Anywhere
and told it to put the email in my Spam mailbox.  That didn't work.

I then tried enclosing them in quotes but that didn't
work.

I then did it through the Alternatives tab and pub the first character
in the first set and the second character in the second set and it
still didn't work.

This last one filtered out two English messages which I examined
looking at the full headers. Neither one of the messages filtered out
contained either of the characters I was filtering for anywhere.
Meanwhile several emails WITH those specific non-English characters
were not filtered.

I'm clearly doing something wrong but can't figure out what it is.
Between the possibilities for using special characters in signal
strings and using Regular Expressions, I find the Help on this rather
confusing.

If I use pipes for an or condition, should there or should there not
be spaces before and after the characters I want to use for the
filter? Should there be quotes around the characters I want to use for
the filter?


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Filter problem wav solved

2002-02-23 Thread Shahar

Sorry for the wasted bandwidth.

Shahar.


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Re: Another filter problem.

2001-12-21 Thread Thomas F

Hi Alberto,

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 18:29:59 +0100GMT (21/12/2001, 01:29 +0800GMT),
Alberto Almagioni wrote:

AA Oki this is the classical one million dollar question

I'm gearing up...

AA (but I can not give one million dollar for the answer).

...and slowing down. ;-)

AA I need to know if it's possible to filter the second mail so that the
AA program print the first mail with the same code.

You need triggered by one mail to print another mail. Unfortunately,
this is not possible. A quick workaround does not come to mind,
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Re: Another filter problem.

2001-12-21 Thread Roelof Otten

Hello Alberto,

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 18:29:59 +0100GMT (20-12-01, 18:29 +0100GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

AA I receive two kind of mail for my web site: the first contains a
AA unique code and personal data; The second mail is a confirm containing
AA the same code and the .
AA I need to know if it's possible to filter the second mail so that the
AA program print the first mail with the same code.

I'm afraid you'll have to trigger some external program with some
database functions.

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Another filter problem.

2001-12-20 Thread Alberto Almagioni


Oki this is the classical one million dollar question (but I can not
give one million dollar for the answer).
The problem is not very simple and i don't know if it's possible to
solve with a filter.
I receive two kind of mail for my web site: the first contains a
unique code and personal data; The second mail is a confirm containing
the same code and the .
I need to know if it's possible to filter the second mail so that the
program print the first mail with the same code.
I don't' if this is clear...
Tnx.

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Re[2]: Filter problem

2001-05-19 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Dierk,

On Saturday, May 19, 2001 10:55:27 [ +0200 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'Filter problem':

Dierk [...] Main rule (one set): dierkhaasis in Sender Yes AND
Dierk PGP-Baiscs in Subject Yes Alternative rules: Set 1.
Dierk dierkhaasis in Sender Yes AND TBOT in Kludges Yes OR Set 2.
Dierk dierkhaasis in Sender Yes AND TBBETA in Kludges Yes OR Set
Dierk 3. dierkhaasis in Sender Yes AND TBUDL in Kludges Yes OR
Dierk Set 4. dierkhaasis in Sender Yes AND TBTECH in Kludges Yes

Dierk Filter is active, moves filtered messages to Trash and marks them
Dierk read.

  Maybe I've misunderstood what the problem is but I have a
  similar filter which seems to work in once account for all
  folders for all mail lists that I subscribe to.

  There is a slight difference: I ask TB! to mark my msgs w a
  pre-defined color so I know to ignore them but I can use them
  for reference if needed. I understand your desire to dump them
  off your drive to save space; no argument w that logic. But
  here's my filter which should work w a minor modification.

  Focus: inbox
  Filter: Jan Rifkinson yes
  Actions: mark msgs red, set msg color
  Options: continue processing

  Put this near (or @) the top of the filter list

  The modification needed for your purposes would be under
  Actions: delete msg (not off of server)

  Only if I used different sender names would I add an 'or' to
  the sender name.

  HTH

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Re[3]: Filter problem

2001-05-19 Thread Jan Rifkinson

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Also Dierk,

Jan Maybe I've misunderstood what the problem is

  Have you considered creating a filter in the outgoing msg folder?

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Re: Filter problem

2001-05-19 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Jan!

On Saturday, May 19, 2001 at 4:35:06 PM you wrote:

   The modification needed for your purposes would be under
   Actions: delete msg (not off of server)

I use Move to Trash for this, it is much safer, since Trash is only
emptied when I end the session. so if I have a look in there I can
identify if something's gone wrong.

   Only if I used different sender names would I add an 'or' to
   the sender name.

The problem is not the sender's name (mine), but different mailing
lists.

I want to kill every mail I send to the mailing lists. When I send
them (Outgoing Mail) they get killed, *and* I don't want them when
they come back from the lists (Incoming Mail):

1. IF a message comes in containing dierkhaasis in the Sender header
AND containing List Name 1 in the Subject header THEN move it to
Trash.

2. IF message has dierkhaasis in Sender AND List Name 2 in any of
the headers move it to Trash.
.
.
.
.

All those filters (I described them in the mail you answered) can be
put into one because they are *not* mutually exclusive. The less
filters one uses the less problems can stem from their positions.

As I said, the filter (after some logically uninteresting changes) now
works as I want it. The original problem was that messages got
filtered to Trash that did *not* conform to the rule. They did not
have dierkhaasis in Sender, so all PGP-Basics messages were trashed.

I hope I made eventually clear what I meant - at least I now tried it
with three different approaches.


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Re[2]: Filter problem

2001-05-19 Thread Jan Rifkinson

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Hello Dierk,

On Saturday, May 19, 2001 17:46:39 [ +0200 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'Filter problem':

Dierk I use Move to Trash for this, it is much safer, since Trash is only
Dierk emptied when I end the session. so if I have a look in there I can
Dierk identify if something's gone wrong.

  True; good idea. Actually I do the same w/similar filters

   Only if I used different sender names would I add an 'or' to
   the sender name.

Dierk The problem is not the sender's name (mine), but different mailing
Dierk lists.

Dierk I want to kill every mail I send to the mailing lists.

  I understand there is no problem with the sender's name but I
  guess my point is that what I suggested (and works) seems to be
  a simpler approach. The common denominator is your sender name
  which is why I've filtered on that rather than worrying about
  where these msgs were going.

  If you are trying to get a filter to work, then you might give
  my suggestion a try as it works for me but if you are trying to
  get an answer about why your current filter setup is not working
  properly then, certainly, I have not answered this question.

  Good luck. I'll be reading this thread with continued interest.

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Re: Filter problem

2001-05-19 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Jan!

On Saturday, May 19, 2001 at 6:39:24 PM you wrote:

   I understand there is no problem with the sender's name but I
   guess my point is that what I suggested (and works) seems to be
   a simpler approach. The common denominator is your sender name
   which is why I've filtered on that rather than worrying about
   where these msgs were going.

Perfectly right. the only problem with this approach would be messages
with my name in the sender field (maybe from badly programmed HTML
forms, or because messages are coming back). Perhaps I am only
paranoid ...

I remember - very nebulously - once getting mails with my name in the
sender field that I really wanted to read.

   If you are trying to get a filter to work, then you might give
   my suggestion a try as it works for me but if you are trying to
   get an answer about why your current filter setup is not working
   properly then, certainly, I have not answered this question.

As mentioned, with some slight changes, that are technically
equivalent, it now works.* But I had a similar problem some months ago,
which I solved by simply deleting the filter and from then on having
my own posts in TB!-lists folder killed manually.

   Good luck. I'll be reading this thread with continued interest.

Thanx.

*For the logicians beneath us.

1. What I had: IF Sender partly =dierkhaasis AND Subject partly
=PGP-Basics THEN move message to Trash. This killed all messages from
PGP-Basics

2. What works: IF Sender=[EMAIL PROTECTED] AND Subject partly
=basics THEN move message to Trash.

I continue this thread and our search because there could well be a
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Re[2]: Filter problem

2001-05-19 Thread Jan Rifkinson

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Hello Dierk,

On Saturday, May 19, 2001 19:02:40 [ +0200 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'Filter problem':

   [...] The common denominator is your sender name
   which is why I've filtered on that rather than worrying about
   where these msgs were going.

Dierk [...] the only problem with this approach would
Dierk be messages with my name in the sender field (maybe from
Dierk badly programmed HTML forms, or because messages are coming
Dierk back). Perhaps I am only paranoid ... I remember - very
Dierk nebulously - once getting mails with my name in the sender
Dierk field that I really wanted to read.

  Well this sounds a little weird to me but you can cover this
  problem by also giving these filtered msgs a color code before
  they go into the trash so you can group them quickly  review
  them as you say you like to do before their final deletion.

  Just my .02

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Filter problem

2001-05-18 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello TBUDL Members!

  I just created a kill filter for messages I sent to a mailing list
  (it's actually a filter killing all my own mails to a mailing list
  coming back to me). Interestingly the alternative rules for the TB!
  lists seem to work correctly, only the main rule does kill *all*
  mails coming to me from the specific list.

  Technicalities:

  1. It's an Incoming filter.
  2. It moves mails to Trash, and marks them read.
  3. Rule is, dierkhaasis in Sender Yes AND PGP-Basics in Subject Yes.

  Why does this trash all mails with PGP-Basics in the subject
  header.

  *The alternative rules work slightly different as I use the list's
  acronym in Kludges Yes instead of anything in the subject header.


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Re: Filter problem

2001-05-18 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Marck!

On Friday, May 18, 2001 at 5:44:53 PM you wrote:

 I delete the *sent* version and keep the one which comes back
 through the list (so I keep the one everyone else saw).

Nice idea, but, I kill both ... I am not much of a keeper. If I need a
reference to older mails I look up the on-line archives; no reason to
keep them myself.



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Re: Filter problem

2001-05-18 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Peter!

On Friday, May 18, 2001 at 5:38:08 PM you wrote:

 as I understand it, it's the alternative rule that sends all PGP-Basics
 messages to trash. They all have the list's acronym in their kludges. You
 might try to cancel the alternative.

No. The alternative rules kill my comeback messages from TB lists.
The main rule has nothing in common (filtering-wise) with the
alternative rules except that I put all those mailing list kills in
one filter instead of creating unnecessary filters.



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Re: Filter problem

2001-05-18 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Marck!

On Friday, May 18, 2001 at 5:44:53 PM you wrote:

 While I don't know the answer to this specific question

OK, now it becomes really funny, I changed the said filter's main rule
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Sender Yes AND basic in Subject Yes. And now
it does filter correctly.

My original question may now seem to be obsolete, but (and the tag
line below is pure coincidence) now more interesting than ever before
- - from a logicians point of view.


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Re: Filter problem

2001-05-18 Thread Thomas

Hello Dierk,

On Fri, 18 May 2001 17:10:28 +0200 GMT (18/05/2001, 23:10 +0800 GMT),
Dierk Haasis wrote:

DH   3. Rule is, dierkhaasis in Sender Yes AND PGP-Basics in Subject Yes.

DH   Why does this trash all mails with PGP-Basics in the subject
DH   header.

Because they are caught by the alternative, which is connected by OR:

DH   *The alternative rules work slightly different as I use the list's
DH   acronym in Kludges Yes instead of anything in the subject header.

IOW this fitler is moving your messages to trash if they come from
you, OR (not exclusive) contain PGP-Basics anywhere in the header.
Which will be true for all messages from that list.

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Filter problem

2001-01-24 Thread Søren Friis Østergaard

Hey TBUDL,

  Is it possible to filter all mails from "@masterseeker.com" to one
  folder w/out having to add every single user (ex. "[EMAIL PROTECTED]",
  "[EMAIL PROTECTED]") ???

  Oh yeah, one more thing. Where can I find a list of humoristic
  taglines to use as cookies in The Bat

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Re: Filter problem

2001-01-24 Thread Rastislav Wartiak

   Is it possible to filter all mails from "@masterseeker.com" to one
   folder w/out having to add every single user (ex. "[EMAIL PROTECTED]",
   "[EMAIL PROTECTED]") ???

just use @masterseeker.com as filtering string

rasto w.

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Re: Filter problem

2001-01-24 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Sren,

On  24  January  2001 at 11:55:26 +0100 (which was 10:55 where I live)
Sren Friis stergaard wrote and made these points:

SF   Is  it possible to filter all mails from "@masterseeker.com" to
SF   one   folder  w/out  having  to  add  every  single  user  (ex.
SF   "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", "[EMAIL PROTECTED]") ???

Yes - just specify masterseeker.com as your filter string. The filters
will match substrings anywhere in an address.

SF   Oh yeah, one more thing. Where can I find a list of humoristic
SF   taglines to use as cookies in The Bat

Try a web search. I turned up these pages:

http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~okan/images/fun/articles/taglines.html
http://www.laughnet.net/archive/misc/taglines.htm
http://www.eldar.org/~ben/funny/html/340.html

Just as a quick sample. :-)

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Filter problem?

2000-09-11 Thread BillG


I can't seem to perform a logical "or" function with the thebat's
filters.  I have this rule

String: "InfoBeat Fun" | "adm-humor"
Location: subject
Presence: yes

My intention is to move any message with "InfoBeat Fun" or adm-humor
in the subject.  The rules catches the InfoBeat messages, but not
the adm-humor messages.  What am I doing wrong?

Thanks
Bill Grant

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Re: Filter problem?

2000-09-11 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello BillG,

On  Monday, September 11, 2000  at  20:31:51 GMT -0400 (which was 5:31 PM
where I live) witnesses say BillG typed:

 I can't seem to perform a logical "or" function with the thebat's
 filters.  I have this rule

 String: "InfoBeat Fun" | "adm-humor"
 Location: subject
 Presence: yes

Easiest thing first.  Check the spelling of "adm-humor".  Make sure
the mailing list isn't using "adm-humour" or that you haven't
accidentally mistyped it.

That's probably not the problem.  I don't care for the | method of
creating OR connections in TB.  I find they can be ambiguous.  I won't
go into all the details, but suffice it to say that I prefer using one
Main rule and one Alternate rule for OR connections.

If you want to try the Alternate rule system, on your main rule, it
should look like the following:

String Location  Presence
InfoBeat Fun   Subject   Yes

Then add an alternate rule by going to the alternate tab and clicking
Insert.  Now make this one look like:

String Location  Presence
adm-humor  Subject   Yes
 
Hopefully this will do the trick for you.


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Re[2]: Filter problem?

2000-09-11 Thread BillG

 That's probably not the problem.  I don't care for the | method of
 creating OR connections in TB.  I find they can be ambiguous.  I won't go
 into all the details, but suffice it to say that I prefer using one Main
 rule and one Alternate rule for OR connections.

Oh!!  So THAT's what the Alternate rules are for.  Yes, that is much
better.  Much easier to mix combinations "and"s and "or"s that way.
Thanks!

I'm such a silly little TB newbie

BillG

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Re[2]: filter problem

2000-06-14 Thread phil

Greetings Marek!

On  Tuesday, June 13, 2000  at  17:52:55 GMT +0200 (which was 8:52 AM where you think 
I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:

MM Hello all,
MM Tuesday, June 13, 2000, Larry Barrett wrote:

 I  would certainly be grateful for any suggestions. I might add that I
 use  this same filter pattern in another e-mail client - and it works.
 It  also  works with The Bat! *most* of the time. My question is - why
 the inconsistency?

MM try to cut all text except E-mail address.

MM for example [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of "Marek Mikus" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Another thing is the order in which the filters are on the list.

My very LAST filter is this  "\*???"
It makes everything else that hasn't been filtered go to a
folder called 'INBOX1' (it's just a regular folder like INBOX)
When I add a new filter, I have to move it to the top of the list
again or else this "catch all filter" would send everything to
INBOX1 instead of the respective folders I want.
(I couldn't figure out what the perl syntax for *.*.*.* was, so I just
used "\*?" because the chances of an email with
? as the address is zero.  Oh yeah I used a 'NOT
switch' on it.

ie. if ? is _not present_ then send the mail to INBOX1

It hasn't skipped a beat once.

Anyhow, MY advise..The order matters.  Don't overlook it.

Also Once upon a time, someone on the list had the letters "r i t" in
their address or name (maybe someone named ritchard I forget now.), I
must have screwed around for about two hours before I realized why
their mail kept going to the wrong folder. So you got to look
carefully at the existing filters because they can filter exactly what
you tell them, and that might not have been what you wanted.  Just
like ritchards mail was going to my "RITLABS" folder with Stefan etc,

I was wondering who this new programmer at RIT was for a little while.


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Re: filter problem

2000-06-14 Thread tracer

Hello Larry Barrett,
On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 12:20:12 -0300 GMT your local time,
which was Tuesday, June 13, 2000, 10:20:12 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Larry Barrett wrote:


 Greetings,

 My  problem  is  one  that  I  have had to happen on several different
 occasions.  I  have tried, in vain, to discover what I am doing wrong.
 One example is the following:

 I  received  an  e-mail from a friend. I right clicked on it - went to
 specials,  then  to  create filters. Everything is done as I have done
 for  many  other addresses. It seems that there are *some* that simply
 will  *not* go to the folder I requested. It always goes to the Inbox.
 I  have  checked my filter setup and the address to make sure they are
 correct  -  and  all appears to be normal - just a simple "direct to x
 folder".  Does  anyone  have any idea what I might be doing wrong? The
 procedure that I have described, I do with most of my correspondence -
 and  it works! It's just that I will occasionally have an address that
 does  not  seem  to  respond  to  my filter setup. If were a difficult
 setup, I would suspect that I fouled up somewhere, but it really seems
 quite simple - but even so, it always goes to the Inbox instead of the
 folder I designated.

 I  would certainly be grateful for any suggestions. I might add that I
 use  this same filter pattern in another e-mail client - and it works.
 It  also  works with The Bat! *most* of the time. My question is - why
 the inconsistency?

I think its due to a space in the name so while you specify first and
surname whatever scanning routine the bat uses decides the name part
is finished when hitting the 'space'.
In short you filter is never met as being correct.

No idea what the real reason is but I complained about it ages ago,
nothing was done and the best you CAN do is filter on email and forget
the name of whom it refers to in the filter


Best regards,
 
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Re[3]: filter problem

2000-06-14 Thread Mitch Wagner

I have a similar catchall message filter as the last filter for my
incoming mail - but instead of using not-"?" I
just left the filtering strings blank. The filter just searches for
the presence of the sender field. Since virtually all messages contain
a sender field, it catches every message that passes it by. (I say
"virtually all," because I think I've gotten some spam messages that
contain absent or blank sender fields - I'm not sure about that - but
I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.)
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Greetings Marek!

On  Tuesday, June 13, 2000  at  17:52:55 GMT +0200 (which was 8:52 AM where you think 
I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:

MM Hello all,
MM Tuesday, June 13, 2000, Larry Barrett wrote:

 I  would certainly be grateful for any suggestions. I might add that I
 use  this same filter pattern in another e-mail client - and it works.
 It  also  works with The Bat! *most* of the time. My question is - why
 the inconsistency?

MM try to cut all text except E-mail address.

MM for example [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of "Marek Mikus" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Another thing is the order in which the filters are on the list.

My very LAST filter is this  "\*???"
It makes everything else that hasn't been filtered go to a
folder called 'INBOX1' (it's just a regular folder like INBOX)
When I add a new filter, I have to move it to the top of the list
again or else this "catch all filter" would send everything to
INBOX1 instead of the respective folders I want.
(I couldn't figure out what the perl syntax for *.*.*.* was, so I just
used "\*?" because the chances of an email with
? as the address is zero.  Oh yeah I used a 'NOT
switch' on it.

ie. if ? is _not present_ then send the mail to INBOX1

It hasn't skipped a beat once.

Anyhow, MY advise..The order matters.  Don't overlook it.

Also Once upon a time, someone on the list had the letters "r i t" in
their address or name (maybe someone named ritchard I forget now.), I
must have screwed around for about two hours before I realized why
their mail kept going to the wrong folder. So you got to look
carefully at the existing filters because they can filter exactly what
you tell them, and that might not have been what you wanted.  Just
like ritchards mail was going to my "RITLABS" folder with Stefan etc,

I was wondering who this new programmer at RIT was for a little while.


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Re: filter problem

2000-06-14 Thread Tom Plunket


MW I have a similar catchall message filter as the last filter for my
MW incoming mail - but instead of using not-"?" I
MW just left the filtering strings blank.

...and my catch-all filter checks for the existence of my email
address in the Recipient fields.  If it's not there, the message goes
into the trash.  That way everything still goes into the inbox by
default and only moves if it needs to...

-tom!

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filter problem

2000-06-13 Thread Larry Barrett

Greetings,

My  problem  is  one  that  I  have had to happen on several different
occasions.  I  have tried, in vain, to discover what I am doing wrong.
One example is the following:

I  received  an  e-mail from a friend. I right clicked on it - went to
specials,  then  to  create filters. Everything is done as I have done
for  many  other addresses. It seems that there are *some* that simply
will  *not* go to the folder I requested. It always goes to the Inbox.
I  have  checked my filter setup and the address to make sure they are
correct  -  and  all appears to be normal - just a simple "direct to x
folder".  Does  anyone  have any idea what I might be doing wrong? The
procedure that I have described, I do with most of my correspondence -
and  it works! It's just that I will occasionally have an address that
does  not  seem  to  respond  to  my filter setup. If were a difficult
setup, I would suspect that I fouled up somewhere, but it really seems
quite simple - but even so, it always goes to the Inbox instead of the
folder I designated.

I  would certainly be grateful for any suggestions. I might add that I
use  this same filter pattern in another e-mail client - and it works.
It  also  works with The Bat! *most* of the time. My question is - why
the inconsistency?

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 Larry  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: filter problem

2000-06-13 Thread Nick Danger

In Reference to "filter problem" From Larry Barrett:   

L I  received  an  e-mail from a friend. I right clicked on it - went to
L specials,  then  to  create filters. Everything is done as I have done
L for  many  other addresses. It seems that there are *some* that simply
L will  *not* go to the folder I requested.

Hi Larry,

  I've had similar problems with filters. I've had filters suddenly
stop working for me.  I finally wiped out all my filters and rebuilt
them from scratch.  Since then everything's been fine.  I was
wondering if maybe the constant updating to newer beta's was
squirreling around with the filter settings some.  The final straw was
when certain messages from people on this were not getting filtered
anymore and ending up in my inbox.

  I agree that there is something afoot in the way TB! stores it's
filter info that is susceptible to getting fouled up.  What it is
however is well beyond my grasp, but as verification to your problem I
too have pulled my hair out trying to figure out why certain messages
refuse to be filtered.  But after my total filter rebuild everything
has been flawless so far.  Yeah, it was a royal PITA doing it, but the
result was worth the effort in less frustration.

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Using The Bat! 1.44
 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998  

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Re: filter problem

2000-06-13 Thread Marek Mikus

Hello all,
Tuesday, June 13, 2000, Larry Barrett wrote:

 I  would certainly be grateful for any suggestions. I might add that I
 use  this same filter pattern in another e-mail client - and it works.
 It  also  works with The Bat! *most* of the time. My question is - why
 the inconsistency?

try to cut all text except E-mail address.

for example [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of "Marek Mikus" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Marek Mikus

Using the best The Bat! 1.44 reg
under the worst Windows 95 4.0 Build  B
Intel Celeron 266 MHz, 32 MB

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