Filter problem?
Hi, I upgraded to TB version 3.95.6 and now the emails that are not filtered to a special folder and previously (version 2.12) landed in my inbox are put directly into the Trash folder. How can I change it so they get directed into the inbox again? Also, when I try to change the template for this folder to show what version of TB and what OS I'm running, the template instantly reverts back to its previous incarnation as soon as I add the tbudl address in the To: space?! What am I missing? It's probably something simple, but being just an elderly, regular computer user, these technicalities always stump me. -- Best regards, Susannemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.95.6 OS: Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter problem?
Hi, Saturday, February 24, 2007, 12:30:42 PM,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, when I try to change the template for this folder to show what version of TB and what OS I'm running, the template instantly reverts back to its previous incarnation as soon as I add the tbudl address in the To: space?! What am I missing? It's probably something simple, but being just an elderly, regular computer user, these technicalities always stump me. I figured this one out myself. TB uses address book templates first and after changing the template to TBUDL there, I get the correct template for new messages now. Still looking for help with the messages sent straight to the Trash, though. -- Best regards, Susannemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.95.6 OS: Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter problem?
Hi, Saturday, February 24, 2007, 1:53:43 PM,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There must be some filter that does this. You can check it in the Sorting Office that is accessible through the account menu. I did, multiple times! There is no filter designed to send anything to the Trash folder. It's all the message that are not filtered to a specific folder that land in the trash. In the previous version of TB they were directed into the Inbox, which is the way I want it to continue. -- Best regards, Susannemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.95.6 OS: Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter problem?
Hi, Saturday, February 24, 2007, 2:30:12 PM,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did, multiple times! There is no filter designed to send anything to the Trash folder. OK. Some spam filtering plugin? Yes, the BayesIT! plug in that came with TB. But why would it sent everything not filtered otherwise into the Trash folder, instead of the Junk folder it's supposed to create? -- Best regards, Susannemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.95.6 OS: Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter problem?
Hello Susanne, On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 14:42:36 -0800GMT Susanne wrote: S Saturday, February 24, 2007, 2:30:12 PM,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK. Some spam filtering plugin? S Yes, the BayesIT! plug in that came with TB. S But why would it sent everything not filtered S otherwise into the Trash folder, instead of the S Junk folder it's supposed to create? Did you train the filter? Feed it with the same amount of spam and ham and it will know afterwards what to put to the inbox and what to the trash folder. -- Regards, Feli The Bat! 3.96.14 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter problem?
Hi, Saturday, February 24, 2007, 3:20:51 PM,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you train the filter? Feed it with the same amount of spam and ham and it will know afterwards what to put to the inbox and what to the trash folder. Well, nothing is marked as spam, or put into the Junk folder for spam, so I'm not at all sure it has anything to do with the spam filter. I didn't see a training option when I set up the filter. Where can that be found? -- Best regards, Susannemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.95.6 OS: Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter problem?
Hello Susanne, On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 15:30:18 -0800GMT Susanne wrote: S I didn't see a training option when I set up the S filter. S Where can that be found? There is no special trainig option, you do this by defining a mail as Spam or Ham. You can use the menu Specials/Mark as Junk or Specials/Mark NOT Junk or you can define a shortcut to these two commands. I use alt+j for Junk and alt+h for Ham. -- Regards, Feli The Bat! 3.96.15 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter problem?
Hello Susanne, Saturday, February 24, 2007, 6:30:18 PM, you wrote: S S Hi, S Saturday, February 24, 2007, 3:20:51 PM,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you train the filter? Feed it with the same amount of spam and ham and it will know afterwards what to put to the inbox and what to the trash folder. S Well, nothing is marked as spam, or put into the S Junk folder for spam, so I'm not at all sure it S has anything to do with the spam filter. S I didn't see a training option when I set up the S filter. S Where can that be found? As I understand it, your BayseIT! is no longer working Others may have a more eloquent take on this, but the last few versions of The Bat! have taken it upon themselves to delete BayesIT! from your computer. Ritlabs' position is that BayesIT! was not reliable and they are saving you from yourself. Personally, I think that is just wrong and I am quite able to make these decisions on my own, but if you use The Bat! installer, it *will* delete BayesIT! I guess, as my old 8th grade science teacher admonished us forewarned is forearmed -- Best regards, Genemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000716-3, 02/23/2007 Tested on: 2/24/2007 6:52:51 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter problem?
Hi, Saturday, February 24, 2007, 3:39:21 PM,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no special trainig option, you do this by defining a mail as Spam or Ham. Thanks! Just a question though: if the spam filter sends messages to the trash, would they be marked as spam? -- Best regards, Susannemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.95.6 OS: Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter problem?
On Sat 24-Feb-07 2:30pm -0600, Susanne wrote: I upgraded to TB version 3.95.6 and now the emails that are not filtered to a special folder and previously (version 2.12) landed in my inbox are put directly into the Trash folder. How can I change it so they get directed into the inbox again? Right click on one of those misdirected mails in Trash and pick Test Filters. With only Incoming Mail checked, click OK to see what put that message in Trash. -- Best regards, Bill TB! Pro 3.96.14 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.8 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter problem?
Hello Susanne, On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 15:53:28 -0800GMT Susanne wrote: S Just a question though: if the spam filter sends S messages to the trash, would they be marked as S spam? What is marked in Options/Preferences/Anti-Spam as target for the detected spam? If it's the trash folder then the plugin deteced all these mails in the trash folder as spam and there is no need to mark them again. -- Regards, Feli The Bat! 3.96.15 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filter problem
Hello Roelof, Thursday, February 8, 2007, 10:27:26 AM, you wrote: 1) Check whether your filters are active (on the options tab), that is the default, so that shouldn't be the cause. 2) Check whether the message is processed by another filter, filters are checked top down and a message processed by filter one won't trigger filter two as it won't be matched against the other filters unless filter one has the option 'continue processing with other filters' set. The sequence of your filters is very important. 3) Are you sure you created incoming filters and not outgoing, read or replied filters? It isn't 1 or 3 so it has to be 2. I have put my folders as subfolders of Inbox, but all the mail is going just to the Inbox. I want it to go into individual folders within the Inbox folder 1. I have one set... Name is the name of the folder Condition is set as the sender and has their email address Action is move to the folder \\Joyce Ragels\Inbox\Personal What other settings could there be? Suggestion? -- Joyce Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filter problem
Hello, Friday, February 9, 2007, 1:00:00 PM, you wrote: As Roelof said - check out the order of the filters in the Sorting Office again. :-) Make sure that the Known filter (if you have it) comes *after* the other filters you created. Try to move one of the filters that should sort messages into a subfolder all the way up to the top to see if it works then. You can move the filters via drag drop while keeping the ALT key pressed, or right-click the filter in question and select Move Up (or Down) from the context menu. If you tried all that without success, you can press CTRL+C to copy the filter to the clipboard. You can then paste it into a message to this list, so that others can check it (to see if anything is wrong with the filter conditions). For whatever reason, I was able to set up filters without a hitch using create filter under the Specials menu. That worked just like it should. Thank you. -- J Intuition will tell the thinking mind where to look next. - Jonas Salk Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter problem
Hello TBUDL, I'm a brand new Bat user and I'm trying to set up my filters without success. Here is what I have done: Clicked on Sorting office icon Account shows my name Tab is General Name - Indiana Sender contains - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Under actions I have move to \\Joyce Ragels\Inbox\Indiana Now when this mail comes in, it still goes to my Inbox and not directly to the Indiana folder. Could someone please tell me what I am doing wrong. I have set up another filter going into another folder and I can't get that one right either. I've used filters before, but just must have taken a stupid pill. Thank you J Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Cut mark (was: Filter problem)
Hallo Joyce, On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:11:55 -0700GMT (8-2-2007, 18:11, where I live), you wrote: JR Thank you JR J moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Joyce. ' Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Moderator not found: (A)bort, (R)etry, (P)ost Off-Topic? pgpErth0z3o5u.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter problem
Hallo Joyce, On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:11:55 -0700GMT (8-2-2007, 18:11 +0100, where I live), you wrote: JR I have set up another filter going into another folder and I can't get JR that one right either. I've used filters before, but just must have JR taken a stupid pill. 1) Check whether your filters are active (on the options tab), that is the default, so that shouldn't be the cause. 2) Check whether the message is processed by another filter, filters are checked top down and a message processed by filter one won't trigger filter two as it won't be matched against the other filters unless filter one has the option 'continue processing with other filters' set. The sequence of your filters is very important. 3) Are you sure you created incoming filters and not outgoing, read or replied filters? -- Groetjes, Roelof Computers run on smoke. They stop as it leaks out. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.96.04 (BETA) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpQkBKQr71es.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bayes Filter Problem
Hello all, I did a fresh install of 3.5 then used a day old backup. I installed Bayes Filter again, now everytime i close TheBat i have to reinstall the Bayes Filter. It just wont stay installed. Anyone have an idea whats up -- Best regards, Barry Current version is 3.5 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter problem
Hello tbudl, I don't know what it is, but I can't get this bad-boy to work. I want to manually filter a folder and move any message older than 45 days into a different folder. TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [7241B1F8.01C50569.51F67C2A.6B2E98D6] Name: TBArchive Filter: {\0D\0A\20`13`0`45\0D\0A} MoveMessage folder \5C\5CCentral\5CLists\5CTB-Archives IsManual IsContinue IsActive Ignore endFilter Anybody see what's wrong? Thanks. -- __ TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons: http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PCWSmileys: http://PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php Tagline of the day: Don't confuse me with facts, my mind's already made up! Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter problem
Hello Leif, Anybody see what's wrong? No, because it works here. I pasted it as an Incoming filter. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.6 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter problem
Hello MAU, Friday, January 28, 2005, 1:00:51 PM, you wrote: M I pasted it as an Incoming filter. Hmm. We'll time to dig into this one I guess. Thanks. -- __ TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons: http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PCWSmileys: http://PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php Tagline of the day: Staring at a monitor causes carpal tunnel vision. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter problem
Hallo Leif, On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:57:38 -0700GMT (28-1-2005, 19:57 +0100, where I live), you wrote: LG I want to manually filter a folder and move any message older than LG 45 days into a different folder. Why manually and not automatically? Set folder specific alternative deletion on and purge on exit on messages older than 45 days. -- Groetjes, Roelof I'd Have Written Sooner But I Thought I Owed You Money. The Bat! 3.0.2.10 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpTJR96fgvtL.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: regexp in selective download filter problem
* Timur Kadyshev [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm trying to filter out messages with From: field containing address that starts with 238, and then has three digits before @. Regexp I'm using is ^238\d\d\d@ . Try (?m)^From:\s*238\d{3}@ any search in the entire header. You have to switch on PCRE_MULTILINE (see help file) for the circumflex to work. I tested this regexp with regular filter -- it worked just fine (after I enabled regular expression filtering). In regular filters PCRE_MULTILINE is active by default. -- Carsten, hth Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
regexp in selective download filter problem
I'm trying to filter out messages with From: field containing address that starts with 238, and then has three digits before @. Regexp I'm using is ^238\d\d\d@ . I tested this regexp with regular filter -- it worked just fine (after I enabled regular expression filtering). Then I created a Selective Download rule with ^238\d\d\d@ as its Signal String, and checked Match any string as regular expression at the Advanced tab. This rule does not work. What am I doing wrong? Here is an example of header of a message that does not filter out: === Received: from 68.192.227.68 (ool-44c0e344.dyn.optonline.net [68.192.227.68]) by pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (8.12.4/8.9.2) with SMTP id h7RM5W3W000868 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 18:05:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 06:34:39 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: 1176141317 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DVD Backup Movies 238989 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit = I use v1.62r under WinXP. Thanks, --T. Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter problem yet
Hello friends, I have not resolved my problem of filter I tried to apply an antispam method by applying a filtering with alternatives on keywords. The problem is that TB sends to the folder antispam created for that purpose, all the mails, same those who don't contain the strings, with no exception... In fact, it seems that all e-mail which is not filtered with a rule, go in this antispam folder ... Perhaps, TB doesn't want exclusively alternatives ? I also discovered that with simply the filter actived (rule active), and no strings in rule and no strings in alternatives, it was the same as if I had indicated all keywords in alternartives, therefore the problem does not come from keywords for the reason that all mails are going to spam folder (copy of the filter below) BeginFilter Name: antispam Active: 1 Source: \\wanadoo ADSL\Inbox Target: \\\spam CopyFolder: none MainSet: 00 AltSet:1: 30sex AltSet:1: 30sexy Actions: faoContinueProcessing AddGroups: DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: NewTemplate: ExtCmd: ExtFile: ExtractDir: ColourGroup: défaut AddAddrItems: afiFrom, DelAddrItems: afiFrom, HotKey: 0 IsOfColour: défaut SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 0 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 0 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: KillFile: KillMethod: 0 SaveTemplate: SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter Thanks for your help Friendly Christophe France Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filter problem yet
Hello Jonathan, I tried to apply an antispam method by applying a filtering with alternatives on keywords. The problem is that TB sends to the folder antispam created for that purpose, all the mails, same those who don't contain the strings, with no exception... In fact, it seems that all e-mail which is not filtered with a rule, go in this antispam folder ... You have nothing in the starting filter. No, nothing inside ! Which means it matches ALL mail, OR mail with sexy AND sexy in it. Therefore I'm obliged to put at least one string in the rule ? Try putting something in the first page (Rules), I try I puted an expression stings location : presence : vivivi kludges no and any other options into the Alternatives page. Others keywords in alternatives ? Ok I do that It's the same, result, all mail go the spam folder Thanks Christophe Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter problem yet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, telepro wrote... You have nothing in the starting filter. No, nothing inside ! Which means it matches ALL mail, OR mail with sexy AND sexy in it. Therefore I'm obliged to put at least one string in the rule ? Not really no, but it depends what you want the filter to do. Try putting something in the first page (Rules), I try I puted an expression stings location : presence : vivivi kludges no How many emails do you get that have vivivi in the headers? That will again probably catch all your mails again. If this is a spam filter, try putting: Strings Location Presence sex Anywhere Yes For the Rule page. and any other options into the Alternatives page. Others keywords in alternatives ? Ok I do that Yes, the Rule page is for AND filters, while anything appearing in the Alternatives page is OR. Usually you want something to appear on the Rule page as a starting point. For example, sex on the first page, and on alternatives, you might want to add sets to include things like marketing, debt, and such. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBPjhTeiuD6BT4/R9zEQLd3gCg9Tg58xaIxOcs1fU5+G+oEoff8DMAoN67 PsENydIjyvGgkjMXWFPITpoE =MLaA -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter problem yet
Hello telepro, I puted an expression stings location : presence : vivivi kludges no All your messages match this rule because none of them include vivivi in the headers (kludges) I have a similar filter and I use: strings location : presence : XSender Yes So no message will match this and only those that match one of the alternatives will me moved to the desired folder. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filter problem yet
Hello Jonathan, Therefore I'm obliged to put at least one string in the rule ? Not really no, but it depends what you want the filter to do. yes an antispam filter ! Try putting something in the first page (Rules), I try I puted an expression stings location : presence : vivivi kludges no How many emails do you get that have vivivi in the headers? Justly no one and I thaught it would go to alternatives ! again probably catch all your mails again. If this is a spam filter, try putting: Strings Location Presence sex Anywhere Yes For the Rule page. Ok I dit it and any other options into the Alternatives page. Yes, but the result is that only the mail with the keyword sex go to spam folder ; others taht contain picks (keyword of alternatives, don't go to spam folder Yes, the Rule page is for AND filters, while anything appearing in the Alternatives page is OR. yes I understood ! Usually you want something to appear on the Rule page as a starting point. For example, sex on the first page, and on alternatives, you might want to add sets to include things like marketing, debt, and such. Yes, but at my home, no ! Thank you johnatan for your patience ! Christophe Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter problem yet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, telepro wrote... again probably catch all your mails again. If this is a spam filter, try putting: Strings Location Presence sex Anywhere Yes For the Rule page. Ok I dit it and any other options into the Alternatives page. Yes, but the result is that only the mail with the keyword sex go to spam folder ; others taht contain picks (keyword of alternatives, don't go to spam folder Well this is a start. What I have a feeling is you're adding filter strings to the alternatives, so that you only have 1 Set in the alternative rules, instead of multiple sets. This results in the following effect: [Filter 1] OR [Filter 2 AND Filter 3 AND Filter 4] Instead of: [Filter 1] OR [Filter 2] OR [Filter 3] OR [Filter 4] What you need to do is when you click on the alternatives tab, after adding your first Or filter, click the ADD SET button, (not ALT+INS). This will create a new Set for you, and you'll end up with the follow: [Rules Page] Strings Location Presence sex Anywhere Yes OR [Alternatives Page] Strings Location Presence marketing Anywhere Yes OR Strings Location Presence debtAnywhere Yes Hope that gives you an idea. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBPjhcYiuD6BT4/R9zEQKN0gCeK706kQuVfBolIR7jPTSdF9B/AEwAnA6e eC3QEAGX9AWYRoHM669woLEb =dVD7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filter problem yet
Hello Miguel, I puted an expression stings location : presence : vivivi kludges no All your messages match this rule because none of them include vivivi in the headers (kludges) Ok, I understand :-) I have a similar filter and I use: strings location : presence : XSender Yes Ok in rules ! Perfect So no message will match this and only those that match one of the alternatives will me moved to the desired folder. Ok Perfect ! This with the complement of informations from Jonathan, I resolved my problem, I thank you so much for you help and your disponibility Friendly Christophe Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filter problem yet
Hello Jonathan, Well this is a start. What I have a feeling is you're adding filter strings to the alternatives, so that you only have 1 Set in the alternative rules, instead of multiple sets. This results in the following effect: [Filter 1] OR [Filter 2 AND Filter 3 AND Filter 4] Instead of: [Filter 1] OR [Filter 2] OR [Filter 3] OR [Filter 4] Yes, exactly ! I did Alt/Ins for insert a new string !!! What you need to do is when you click on the alternatives tab, after adding your first Or filter, click the ADD SET button, (not ALT+INS). This will create a new Set for you, and you'll end up with the follow: [Rules Page] Strings Location Presence sex Anywhere Yes OR [Alternatives Page] Strings Location Presence marketing Anywhere Yes OR Strings Location Presence debtAnywhere Yes Hope that gives you an idea. More than an idea, it resolves my problem definitivly, I thank you so much Jonathan ; After two days of test, I have a headache but I'm very happy, TB began to make me crazy ;-) Thanks both of you, Jonathan and Miguel Friendly Christophe France (Biarritz) Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter problem yet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, telepro wrote... Hello Jonathan, Well this is a start. What I have a feeling is you're adding filter strings to the alternatives, so that you only have 1 Set in the alternative rules, instead of multiple sets. This results in the following effect: [Filter 1] OR [Filter 2 AND Filter 3 AND Filter 4] Instead of: [Filter 1] OR [Filter 2] OR [Filter 3] OR [Filter 4] Yes, exactly ! I did Alt/Ins for insert a new string !!! It is a little confusing... I only noticed it when I put your filter into my sorting office, and saw what you'd done ;) [..] Hope that gives you an idea. More than an idea, it resolves my problem definitivly, I thank you so much Jonathan ; After two days of test, I have a headache but I'm very happy, TB began to make me crazy ;-) Excellent.. that is good to hear apart from the headache though ;) - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQA/AwUBPjhkRyuD6BT4/R9zEQLafACfT9PsfrJrnu/lV/7GtReOcUPMqQ0AoMIB hNhi8YsSyhWgvP9qnJS6if3w =/NFU -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re-Filter Problem with Replied Message Rule
I have defined this rule (replied messages): Name: TOSPAMB Source Folder: SentBCC Move messages to folder: SPAMB Filtering Strings: SpamButcher -- Anywhere -- Yes Rule: Active Now I have messages with SpamButcher as the Sender in my SentBCC folder. Yet when I do a re-filter on Replied Messages, nothing is moved or found. Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? The re-filter operation works fine with all my rules for incoming mail. Paul Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Problem
Venu, On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, at 07:51:46 [GMT +0530] (which was 7:51 AM where I live) you wrote: V Ofice/Filters, the folder does not show up now. So I cannot apply the V filter. V It shows up clearly in the Normal view The best way is to simply create the filter again. To ensure that you did it right just follow Marck's first mail when you subscribed for the exact rule. Shift+Ctrl+F will get you the filter rule dialogue on when the focus is on the message. .. It would probably be a good idea for you to set up a folder to keep TBUDL messages in. If you do this, the next most useful thing to have in place is an automatic filter to move mail from your inbox into your TBUDL folder. Set up a filter for incoming mail which looks for Strings LocationPresence Reply-to: TBUDL Kludges Yes .. TGIF, Have a great weekend! -- Warm regards, Raj mailto:kalady;vsnl.com Performance Appraisal Terms And Their Real Meanings Quick Thinking - Offers plausible excuses Replied on Friday, November 1, 2002 using TB Ver 1.61 on Windows 2000 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter Problem
Hello tbudl, I performed a restore from an earlier backup of 'The Bat, then found the folder containing the TBUDL messages had disappeared. Ctrl+Alt+Shift brought it back but I find that under 'Sorting Ofice/Filters, the folder does not show up now. So I cannot apply the filter. It shows up clearly in the Normal view Most of the messages on this list go very high above my head but the helpful nature of everyone here and their patience make following this list very enjoyable. Please help. Again. -- Best regards, Venu mailto:venu;operamail.com Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Problem
Hello Venu, Thursday, October 31, 2002, 2:21:46 AM, you wrote: V Hello tbudl, V I performed a restore from an earlier backup of 'The Bat, then found V the folder containing the TBUDL messages had disappeared. V Ctrl+Alt+Shift brought it back but I find that under 'Sorting V Ofice/Filters, the folder does not show up now. So I cannot apply the V filter. V It shows up clearly in the Normal view Try re-creating a filter to that folder ? Is everything else restored to how it should be ? V Most of the messages on this list go very high above my head but the V helpful nature of everyone here and their patience make following this V list very enjoyable. Same here, the posts that delve into the far reaches of Bat-dom don't appeal as of yet, though I generally skim through. -- Best regards, Barry2 Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 98 4.10 Build Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter Problem
Hi Barry2, On Wednesday, October 30, 2002, 8:46 PM, you mentioned about Filter Problem: B Same here, the posts that delve into the far reaches of Bat-dom don't B appeal as of yet, though I generally skim through. To me, that's the beauty of TB! One can just install it, and have a superb MUA without basically touching anything, or one can really get into it and chomp on it, or anywhere in-between. One has that freedom to explore the power that lies within. Just my .0038 pounds .. -- Best regards, Gary Today's thought: If marriage is outlawed, only outlaws will have in-laws. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Non-English Characters Filter Problem
I'm trying to do a filter to get rid of messages with non-English characters. I set up a filter called non-English characters and then tried a rule which put Á | Ä in the Strings box and filtered for Presence Anywhere and told it to put the email in my Spam mailbox. That didn't work. I then tried enclosing them in quotes but that didn't work. I then did it through the Alternatives tab and pub the first character in the first set and the second character in the second set and it still didn't work. This last one filtered out two English messages which I examined looking at the full headers. Neither one of the messages filtered out contained either of the characters I was filtering for anywhere. Meanwhile several emails WITH those specific non-English characters were not filtered. I'm clearly doing something wrong but can't figure out what it is. Between the possibilities for using special characters in signal strings and using Regular Expressions, I find the Help on this rather confusing. If I use pipes for an or condition, should there or should there not be spaces before and after the characters I want to use for the filter? Should there be quotes around the characters I want to use for the filter? -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Filter problem wav solved
Sorry for the wasted bandwidth. Shahar. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Another filter problem.
Hi Alberto, On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 18:29:59 +0100GMT (21/12/2001, 01:29 +0800GMT), Alberto Almagioni wrote: AA Oki this is the classical one million dollar question I'm gearing up... AA (but I can not give one million dollar for the answer). ...and slowing down. ;-) AA I need to know if it's possible to filter the second mail so that the AA program print the first mail with the same code. You need triggered by one mail to print another mail. Unfortunately, this is not possible. A quick workaround does not come to mind, either. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Another filter problem.
Hello Alberto, On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 18:29:59 +0100GMT (20-12-01, 18:29 +0100GMT, where I live), you wrote: AA I receive two kind of mail for my web site: the first contains a AA unique code and personal data; The second mail is a confirm containing AA the same code and the . AA I need to know if it's possible to filter the second mail so that the AA program print the first mail with the same code. I'm afraid you'll have to trigger some external program with some database functions. -- Groetjes, Roelof -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Another filter problem.
Oki this is the classical one million dollar question (but I can not give one million dollar for the answer). The problem is not very simple and i don't know if it's possible to solve with a filter. I receive two kind of mail for my web site: the first contains a unique code and personal data; The second mail is a confirm containing the same code and the . I need to know if it's possible to filter the second mail so that the program print the first mail with the same code. I don't' if this is clear... Tnx. Ciao Al mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using TheBat! 1.54 Beta/17 under Windows 2000 http://i.am/atoms pgp public key: http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Louvre/8338/key.html Fingerprint: 23A0 44F1 8D3B 5C78 0054 4E25 8D0A D73E 4664 8E0F -- Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Vers: 1.53d FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Filter problem
Hello Dierk, On Saturday, May 19, 2001 10:55:27 [ +0200 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'Filter problem': Dierk [...] Main rule (one set): dierkhaasis in Sender Yes AND Dierk PGP-Baiscs in Subject Yes Alternative rules: Set 1. Dierk dierkhaasis in Sender Yes AND TBOT in Kludges Yes OR Set 2. Dierk dierkhaasis in Sender Yes AND TBBETA in Kludges Yes OR Set Dierk 3. dierkhaasis in Sender Yes AND TBUDL in Kludges Yes OR Dierk Set 4. dierkhaasis in Sender Yes AND TBTECH in Kludges Yes Dierk Filter is active, moves filtered messages to Trash and marks them Dierk read. Maybe I've misunderstood what the problem is but I have a similar filter which seems to work in once account for all folders for all mail lists that I subscribe to. There is a slight difference: I ask TB! to mark my msgs w a pre-defined color so I know to ignore them but I can use them for reference if needed. I understand your desire to dump them off your drive to save space; no argument w that logic. But here's my filter which should work w a minor modification. Focus: inbox Filter: Jan Rifkinson yes Actions: mark msgs red, set msg color Options: continue processing Put this near (or @) the top of the filter list The modification needed for your purposes would be under Actions: delete msg (not off of server) Only if I used different sender names would I add an 'or' to the sender name. HTH -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! v1.53 Beta/6/WinMe/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060 ICQ 41116329 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Filter problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Also Dierk, Jan Maybe I've misunderstood what the problem is Have you considered creating a filter in the outgoing msg folder? - -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! v1.53 Beta/6/WinMe/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060 ICQ 41116329 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOwaLe/vZew4/FKBgEQKN7ACfYDl+MgIRrPbA/f/u1YOj/HaxElwAn3xY 9TOrTy49cOKg8oA/xIZAoDbr =0oTs -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filter problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jan! On Saturday, May 19, 2001 at 4:35:06 PM you wrote: The modification needed for your purposes would be under Actions: delete msg (not off of server) I use Move to Trash for this, it is much safer, since Trash is only emptied when I end the session. so if I have a look in there I can identify if something's gone wrong. Only if I used different sender names would I add an 'or' to the sender name. The problem is not the sender's name (mine), but different mailing lists. I want to kill every mail I send to the mailing lists. When I send them (Outgoing Mail) they get killed, *and* I don't want them when they come back from the lists (Incoming Mail): 1. IF a message comes in containing dierkhaasis in the Sender header AND containing List Name 1 in the Subject header THEN move it to Trash. 2. IF message has dierkhaasis in Sender AND List Name 2 in any of the headers move it to Trash. . . . . All those filters (I described them in the mail you answered) can be put into one because they are *not* mutually exclusive. The less filters one uses the less problems can stem from their positions. As I said, the filter (after some logically uninteresting changes) now works as I want it. The original problem was that messages got filtered to Trash that did *not* conform to the rule. They did not have dierkhaasis in Sender, so all PGP-Basics messages were trashed. I hope I made eventually clear what I meant - at least I now tried it with three different approaches. - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.53 Beta/8 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C The First Amendment presupposes that right conclusions are more likely to be gathered out of a multitude of tongues, than through any kind of authoritative selection. (Judge Learned Hand as cited in New York Times v. Sullivan) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBOwaHUPTo1oA8g8dLEQKk6QCg9H/RhdOhXwij9QfIsmMnh1aI70AAoKuV O7ItRw6S8XWXDDPWE3IL+XP+ =AlCl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Filter problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Dierk, On Saturday, May 19, 2001 17:46:39 [ +0200 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'Filter problem': Dierk I use Move to Trash for this, it is much safer, since Trash is only Dierk emptied when I end the session. so if I have a look in there I can Dierk identify if something's gone wrong. True; good idea. Actually I do the same w/similar filters Only if I used different sender names would I add an 'or' to the sender name. Dierk The problem is not the sender's name (mine), but different mailing Dierk lists. Dierk I want to kill every mail I send to the mailing lists. I understand there is no problem with the sender's name but I guess my point is that what I suggested (and works) seems to be a simpler approach. The common denominator is your sender name which is why I've filtered on that rather than worrying about where these msgs were going. If you are trying to get a filter to work, then you might give my suggestion a try as it works for me but if you are trying to get an answer about why your current filter setup is not working properly then, certainly, I have not answered this question. Good luck. I'll be reading this thread with continued interest. - -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! v1.53 Beta/6/WinMe/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060 ICQ 41116329 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOwahxvvZew4/FKBgEQKOsgCg9rUaznobsd0by9OBAGYDm66rGlwAn3DP Ce6Vx5Wx2RXKVgdRVhhi1FIh =n+lo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filter problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jan! On Saturday, May 19, 2001 at 6:39:24 PM you wrote: I understand there is no problem with the sender's name but I guess my point is that what I suggested (and works) seems to be a simpler approach. The common denominator is your sender name which is why I've filtered on that rather than worrying about where these msgs were going. Perfectly right. the only problem with this approach would be messages with my name in the sender field (maybe from badly programmed HTML forms, or because messages are coming back). Perhaps I am only paranoid ... I remember - very nebulously - once getting mails with my name in the sender field that I really wanted to read. If you are trying to get a filter to work, then you might give my suggestion a try as it works for me but if you are trying to get an answer about why your current filter setup is not working properly then, certainly, I have not answered this question. As mentioned, with some slight changes, that are technically equivalent, it now works.* But I had a similar problem some months ago, which I solved by simply deleting the filter and from then on having my own posts in TB!-lists folder killed manually. Good luck. I'll be reading this thread with continued interest. Thanx. *For the logicians beneath us. 1. What I had: IF Sender partly =dierkhaasis AND Subject partly =PGP-Basics THEN move message to Trash. This killed all messages from PGP-Basics 2. What works: IF Sender=[EMAIL PROTECTED] AND Subject partly =basics THEN move message to Trash. I continue this thread and our search because there could well be a bug behind it. - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.53 Beta/8 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Peace: In international affairs, a period of cheating between two periods of fighting. (Ambrose Bierce) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBOwaZIfTo1oA8g8dLEQK9dgCeLU/GSe/2rQJko9OhA64tFPsujXQAn08+ rXCns2ASBzA8EAiuqG8M9Ysf =G/qi -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Filter problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Dierk, On Saturday, May 19, 2001 19:02:40 [ +0200 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'Filter problem': [...] The common denominator is your sender name which is why I've filtered on that rather than worrying about where these msgs were going. Dierk [...] the only problem with this approach would Dierk be messages with my name in the sender field (maybe from Dierk badly programmed HTML forms, or because messages are coming Dierk back). Perhaps I am only paranoid ... I remember - very Dierk nebulously - once getting mails with my name in the sender Dierk field that I really wanted to read. Well this sounds a little weird to me but you can cover this problem by also giving these filtered msgs a color code before they go into the trash so you can group them quickly review them as you say you like to do before their final deletion. Just my .02 - -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! v1.53 Beta/6/WinMe/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060 ICQ 41116329 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOwbeW/vZew4/FKBgEQKpIACffZFd/3G45BM/JGRtgtPr+8xgnTwAnjoU +FC0lzt4+kG5X07FYXp+fCDk =70XF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Filter problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello TBUDL Members! I just created a kill filter for messages I sent to a mailing list (it's actually a filter killing all my own mails to a mailing list coming back to me). Interestingly the alternative rules for the TB! lists seem to work correctly, only the main rule does kill *all* mails coming to me from the specific list. Technicalities: 1. It's an Incoming filter. 2. It moves mails to Trash, and marks them read. 3. Rule is, dierkhaasis in Sender Yes AND PGP-Basics in Subject Yes. Why does this trash all mails with PGP-Basics in the subject header. *The alternative rules work slightly different as I use the list's acronym in Kludges Yes instead of anything in the subject header. - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.53 Beta/6 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C One man is as good as another - until he has written a book. (Benjamin Jowett) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBOwUtVvTo1oA8g8dLEQLX3QCgjri+WUMJ9iowIDZAdY2ChliQ+RAAoJ85 3zLHbbSuuKoBv+PMqJuX6MyD =N6VN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filter problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marck! On Friday, May 18, 2001 at 5:44:53 PM you wrote: I delete the *sent* version and keep the one which comes back through the list (so I keep the one everyone else saw). Nice idea, but, I kill both ... I am not much of a keeper. If I need a reference to older mails I look up the on-line archives; no reason to keep them myself. - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.53 Beta/6 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Why is lemon juice made with artificial flavour, and dish washing liquid made with real lemons? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBOwVDZ/To1oA8g8dLEQJR+wCgsxsdnMM7XxNvwSZsdz3wgpZfZUMAoKq7 G3lqwhiJm7Fm2+oBUEkFgkbV =71Xk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filter problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Peter! On Friday, May 18, 2001 at 5:38:08 PM you wrote: as I understand it, it's the alternative rule that sends all PGP-Basics messages to trash. They all have the list's acronym in their kludges. You might try to cancel the alternative. No. The alternative rules kill my comeback messages from TB lists. The main rule has nothing in common (filtering-wise) with the alternative rules except that I put all those mailing list kills in one filter instead of creating unnecessary filters. - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.53 Beta/6 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Je weniger Ahnung jemand hat, desto mehr Spektakel macht er, und ein desto höheres Gehalt verlangt er. (Mark Twain) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBOwVC3/To1oA8g8dLEQKazwCgjILZnbIGdH9KMmrjmSrQUr9tE6YAnijv RA2IoOuebwAJa/k46eIZNTuc =N9Es -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filter problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marck! On Friday, May 18, 2001 at 5:44:53 PM you wrote: While I don't know the answer to this specific question OK, now it becomes really funny, I changed the said filter's main rule to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Sender Yes AND basic in Subject Yes. And now it does filter correctly. My original question may now seem to be obsolete, but (and the tag line below is pure coincidence) now more interesting than ever before - - from a logicians point of view. - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.53 Beta/6 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C To be is to be the value of a variable. (W.V. Quine) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBOwVbhvTo1oA8g8dLEQI2EQCg91kwqiSUy+taKHMziHIzDhDgA1YAoKYy L5DqzaaZ9XqcgrH0buoxwZGN =ywLq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filter problem
Hello Dierk, On Fri, 18 May 2001 17:10:28 +0200 GMT (18/05/2001, 23:10 +0800 GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: DH 3. Rule is, dierkhaasis in Sender Yes AND PGP-Basics in Subject Yes. DH Why does this trash all mails with PGP-Basics in the subject DH header. Because they are caught by the alternative, which is connected by OR: DH *The alternative rules work slightly different as I use the list's DH acronym in Kludges Yes instead of anything in the subject header. IOW this fitler is moving your messages to trash if they come from you, OR (not exclusive) contain PGP-Basics anywhere in the header. Which will be true for all messages from that list. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Wanted: $10,000 reward. Schroedinger's Cat. Dead or Alive. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53 Beta/6 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Filter problem
Hey TBUDL, Is it possible to filter all mails from "@masterseeker.com" to one folder w/out having to add every single user (ex. "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", "[EMAIL PROTECTED]") ??? Oh yeah, one more thing. Where can I find a list of humoristic taglines to use as cookies in The Bat -- Mvh, Sren Friis stergaard - stud.merc.dat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... 73% of statistics are made up on the spot. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filter problem
Is it possible to filter all mails from "@masterseeker.com" to one folder w/out having to add every single user (ex. "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", "[EMAIL PROTECTED]") ??? just use @masterseeker.com as filtering string rasto w. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filter problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Sren, On 24 January 2001 at 11:55:26 +0100 (which was 10:55 where I live) Sren Friis stergaard wrote and made these points: SF Is it possible to filter all mails from "@masterseeker.com" to SF one folder w/out having to add every single user (ex. SF "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", "[EMAIL PROTECTED]") ??? Yes - just specify masterseeker.com as your filter string. The filters will match substrings anywhere in an address. SF Oh yeah, one more thing. Where can I find a list of humoristic SF taglines to use as cookies in The Bat Try a web search. I turned up these pages: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~okan/images/fun/articles/taglines.html http://www.laughnet.net/archive/misc/taglines.htm http://www.eldar.org/~ben/funny/html/340.html Just as a quick sample. :-) - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.49c S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOm7JbjnkJKuSnc2gEQJzhACglcGJyJyHHEE29XUnpHg5ewrWdXYAn3Zz BA6jRA3/evVQ/Z5pWqJcDqO7 =CGyI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Filter problem?
I can't seem to perform a logical "or" function with the thebat's filters. I have this rule String: "InfoBeat Fun" | "adm-humor" Location: subject Presence: yes My intention is to move any message with "InfoBeat Fun" or adm-humor in the subject. The rules catches the InfoBeat messages, but not the adm-humor messages. What am I doing wrong? Thanks Bill Grant -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Filter problem?
Hello BillG, On Monday, September 11, 2000 at 20:31:51 GMT -0400 (which was 5:31 PM where I live) witnesses say BillG typed: I can't seem to perform a logical "or" function with the thebat's filters. I have this rule String: "InfoBeat Fun" | "adm-humor" Location: subject Presence: yes Easiest thing first. Check the spelling of "adm-humor". Make sure the mailing list isn't using "adm-humour" or that you haven't accidentally mistyped it. That's probably not the problem. I don't care for the | method of creating OR connections in TB. I find they can be ambiguous. I won't go into all the details, but suffice it to say that I prefer using one Main rule and one Alternate rule for OR connections. If you want to try the Alternate rule system, on your main rule, it should look like the following: String Location Presence InfoBeat Fun Subject Yes Then add an alternate rule by going to the alternate tab and clicking Insert. Now make this one look like: String Location Presence adm-humor Subject Yes Hopefully this will do the trick for you. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/5 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Filter problem?
That's probably not the problem. I don't care for the | method of creating OR connections in TB. I find they can be ambiguous. I won't go into all the details, but suffice it to say that I prefer using one Main rule and one Alternate rule for OR connections. Oh!! So THAT's what the Alternate rules are for. Yes, that is much better. Much easier to mix combinations "and"s and "or"s that way. Thanks! I'm such a silly little TB newbie BillG -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: filter problem
Greetings Marek! On Tuesday, June 13, 2000 at 17:52:55 GMT +0200 (which was 8:52 AM where you think I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: MM Hello all, MM Tuesday, June 13, 2000, Larry Barrett wrote: I would certainly be grateful for any suggestions. I might add that I use this same filter pattern in another e-mail client - and it works. It also works with The Bat! *most* of the time. My question is - why the inconsistency? MM try to cut all text except E-mail address. MM for example [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of "Marek Mikus" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Another thing is the order in which the filters are on the list. My very LAST filter is this "\*???" It makes everything else that hasn't been filtered go to a folder called 'INBOX1' (it's just a regular folder like INBOX) When I add a new filter, I have to move it to the top of the list again or else this "catch all filter" would send everything to INBOX1 instead of the respective folders I want. (I couldn't figure out what the perl syntax for *.*.*.* was, so I just used "\*?" because the chances of an email with ? as the address is zero. Oh yeah I used a 'NOT switch' on it. ie. if ? is _not present_ then send the mail to INBOX1 It hasn't skipped a beat once. Anyhow, MY advise..The order matters. Don't overlook it. Also Once upon a time, someone on the list had the letters "r i t" in their address or name (maybe someone named ritchard I forget now.), I must have screwed around for about two hours before I realized why their mail kept going to the wrong folder. So you got to look carefully at the existing filters because they can filter exactly what you tell them, and that might not have been what you wanted. Just like ritchards mail was going to my "RITLABS" folder with Stefan etc, I was wondering who this new programmer at RIT was for a little while. -- ... TB doesn't stand for tuberculosis, it stands for The Bat! --- The Bat! 1.44 + 98Lite + Revenge of Mozilla II -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: filter problem
Hello Larry Barrett, On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 12:20:12 -0300 GMT your local time, which was Tuesday, June 13, 2000, 10:20:12 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Larry Barrett wrote: Greetings, My problem is one that I have had to happen on several different occasions. I have tried, in vain, to discover what I am doing wrong. One example is the following: I received an e-mail from a friend. I right clicked on it - went to specials, then to create filters. Everything is done as I have done for many other addresses. It seems that there are *some* that simply will *not* go to the folder I requested. It always goes to the Inbox. I have checked my filter setup and the address to make sure they are correct - and all appears to be normal - just a simple "direct to x folder". Does anyone have any idea what I might be doing wrong? The procedure that I have described, I do with most of my correspondence - and it works! It's just that I will occasionally have an address that does not seem to respond to my filter setup. If were a difficult setup, I would suspect that I fouled up somewhere, but it really seems quite simple - but even so, it always goes to the Inbox instead of the folder I designated. I would certainly be grateful for any suggestions. I might add that I use this same filter pattern in another e-mail client - and it works. It also works with The Bat! *most* of the time. My question is - why the inconsistency? I think its due to a space in the name so while you specify first and surname whatever scanning routine the bat uses decides the name part is finished when hitting the 'space'. In short you filter is never met as being correct. No idea what the real reason is but I complained about it ages ago, nothing was done and the best you CAN do is filter on email and forget the name of whom it refers to in the filter Best regards, tracer -- Using theBAT 1.44 with Windows 98 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com Our special website hosting/mailservers are now operational -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[3]: filter problem
I have a similar catchall message filter as the last filter for my incoming mail - but instead of using not-"?" I just left the filtering strings blank. The filter just searches for the presence of the sender field. Since virtually all messages contain a sender field, it catches every message that passes it by. (I say "virtually all," because I think I've gotten some spam messages that contain absent or blank sender fields - I'm not sure about that - but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.) -- Mitch Wagner Original Message Received: from dutaint.com (unverified [203.130.233.13]) by smtp.greyware.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 04:13:04 -0500 Received: from mail.osbtown.com by dutaint.com with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.1.0.R) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:10:35 +0700 Received: from 207.159.57.165 [207.159.57.165] by osbtown.com [207.159.57.12] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.8.5.0.R) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 02:09:49 -0700 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 02:07:38 -0700 From: phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.44) Personal Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Marek Mikus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re[2]: filter problem In-reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Owner: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Administrator: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MDRcpt-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk X-MDMailing-List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MDSend-Notifications-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greetings Marek! On Tuesday, June 13, 2000 at 17:52:55 GMT +0200 (which was 8:52 AM where you think I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: MM Hello all, MM Tuesday, June 13, 2000, Larry Barrett wrote: I would certainly be grateful for any suggestions. I might add that I use this same filter pattern in another e-mail client - and it works. It also works with The Bat! *most* of the time. My question is - why the inconsistency? MM try to cut all text except E-mail address. MM for example [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of "Marek Mikus" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Another thing is the order in which the filters are on the list. My very LAST filter is this "\*???" It makes everything else that hasn't been filtered go to a folder called 'INBOX1' (it's just a regular folder like INBOX) When I add a new filter, I have to move it to the top of the list again or else this "catch all filter" would send everything to INBOX1 instead of the respective folders I want. (I couldn't figure out what the perl syntax for *.*.*.* was, so I just used "\*?" because the chances of an email with ? as the address is zero. Oh yeah I used a 'NOT switch' on it. ie. if ? is _not present_ then send the mail to INBOX1 It hasn't skipped a beat once. Anyhow, MY advise..The order matters. Don't overlook it. Also Once upon a time, someone on the list had the letters "r i t" in their address or name (maybe someone named ritchard I forget now.), I must have screwed around for about two hours before I realized why their mail kept going to the wrong folder. So you got to look carefully at the existing filters because they can filter exactly what you tell them, and that might not have been what you wanted. Just like ritchards mail was going to my "RITLABS" folder with Stefan etc, I was wondering who this new programmer at RIT was for a little while. -- ... TB doesn't stand for tuberculosis, it stands for The Bat! --- The Bat! 1.44 + 98Lite + Revenge of Mozilla II -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: filter problem
MW I have a similar catchall message filter as the last filter for my MW incoming mail - but instead of using not-"?" I MW just left the filtering strings blank. ...and my catch-all filter checks for the existence of my email address in the Recipient fields. If it's not there, the message goes into the trash. That way everything still goes into the inbox by default and only moves if it needs to... -tom! -- Hopin' this said *something* useful, [EMAIL PROTECTED] out. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
filter problem
Greetings, My problem is one that I have had to happen on several different occasions. I have tried, in vain, to discover what I am doing wrong. One example is the following: I received an e-mail from a friend. I right clicked on it - went to specials, then to create filters. Everything is done as I have done for many other addresses. It seems that there are *some* that simply will *not* go to the folder I requested. It always goes to the Inbox. I have checked my filter setup and the address to make sure they are correct - and all appears to be normal - just a simple "direct to x folder". Does anyone have any idea what I might be doing wrong? The procedure that I have described, I do with most of my correspondence - and it works! It's just that I will occasionally have an address that does not seem to respond to my filter setup. If were a difficult setup, I would suspect that I fouled up somewhere, but it really seems quite simple - but even so, it always goes to the Inbox instead of the folder I designated. I would certainly be grateful for any suggestions. I might add that I use this same filter pattern in another e-mail client - and it works. It also works with The Bat! *most* of the time. My question is - why the inconsistency? -- Best regards, Larry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: filter problem
In Reference to "filter problem" From Larry Barrett: L I received an e-mail from a friend. I right clicked on it - went to L specials, then to create filters. Everything is done as I have done L for many other addresses. It seems that there are *some* that simply L will *not* go to the folder I requested. Hi Larry, I've had similar problems with filters. I've had filters suddenly stop working for me. I finally wiped out all my filters and rebuilt them from scratch. Since then everything's been fine. I was wondering if maybe the constant updating to newer beta's was squirreling around with the filter settings some. The final straw was when certain messages from people on this were not getting filtered anymore and ending up in my inbox. I agree that there is something afoot in the way TB! stores it's filter info that is susceptible to getting fouled up. What it is however is well beyond my grasp, but as verification to your problem I too have pulled my hair out trying to figure out why certain messages refuse to be filtered. But after my total filter rebuild everything has been flawless so far. Yeah, it was a royal PITA doing it, but the result was worth the effort in less frustration. -- - Nick Using The Bat! 1.44 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: filter problem
Hello all, Tuesday, June 13, 2000, Larry Barrett wrote: I would certainly be grateful for any suggestions. I might add that I use this same filter pattern in another e-mail client - and it works. It also works with The Bat! *most* of the time. My question is - why the inconsistency? try to cut all text except E-mail address. for example [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of "Marek Mikus" [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Bye Marek Mikus Using the best The Bat! 1.44 reg under the worst Windows 95 4.0 Build B Intel Celeron 266 MHz, 32 MB You are subscribed as : -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --