Re[2]: How can I filter the messages from TBUDL
Hello Ming-Li, Saturday, August 12, 2000, 7:27:41 PM, you wrote: ML Hi starc, I had this rule all the time and it didn't work. But now I know why :) The problem is, this was my second filter rule and now I took a closer look, and there is an option that says "continue processing with other rules" that has to be checked, and it wasn't In fact, it didn't solve my problem. What I had until now, where 2 filtering strings one below the other. One would filter messages with starc as recipient, the other messages with TBUDL as recipient. It doesn't seem to work. So I took the one filtering string away and put it in a separate new rule, I hope it works now. Another question now. Since my rules didn't work I would like to apply my new, hopefully working filter rule to the messages that are already in the incoming mail folder. Is there a way of doing this? Thanks...starc -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How can I filter the messages from TBUDL
Hi starc, In fact, it didn't solve my problem. What I had until now, where 2 filtering strings one below the other. One would filter messages with starc as recipient, the other messages with TBUDL as recipient. It doesn't seem to work. No wonder, two filter strings in one set means the messages has to satisfy both conditions to be considered a match. Next time you have questions about filters, you better post exactly (in detail) how you set it up, so other people could understand you better. Simply stating that you have a rule that doesn't work isn't very informative. Another question now. Since my rules didn't work I would like to apply my new, hopefully working filter rule to the messages that are already in the incoming mail folder. Is there a way of doing this? From menu [Folder | Re-filter] or right click a folder - re-filter. Looks like you're an inpatient person, ;) for what you asked are pretty much covered by the FAQ. You do know there's a FAQ, don't you. Just in case, it's here: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/ Check the "How do I" section and you'll learn a lot. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: How can I filter the messages from TBUDL
Hello Ming-Li, Monday, August 14, 2000, 10:36:44 AM, you wrote: From menu [Folder | Re-filter] or right click a folder - re-filter. ML Looks like you're an inpatient person, ;) for what you asked are ML pretty much covered by the FAQ. You do know there's a FAQ, don't ML you. Just in case, it's here: First, thanks for answering my question, but in fact I have read the FAQ, and it doesn't explain how to refilter. And it doesn't tell you that two strings mean that both have to be satisfied. I first thought of them like being two different rules because for each string I can define where the sting should be found at and where the message should be filtered to. Thanks...starc -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: How can I filter the messages from TBUDL
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello starc, Friday, June 30, 2000, 10:24:39, you wrote: s Since my rules didn't work I would like to sapply my new, hopefully working filter rule to the messages that sare already in the incoming mail folder. Is there a way of doing sthis? Folder -~ Re-filter Check the incoming mail check box. - -- Jamie Dainton Monday, August 14, 2000 15:06:11 The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 Windows 98 4.10 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=sendKey -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Jamie Dainton - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Encrypt to avoid RIP iQA/AwUBOZf9H7O9xx6V8gurEQIN0wCeI9fvn43vGOuRchP1yrSWPzqmjbMAoKK3 /kWFiwZk6h4VDjKkSEYCg3h1 =9Ujz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How can I filter the messages from TBUDL
Hallo Jamie, On Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:56:29 +0100 GMT (14/08/2000, 22:56 +0800 GMT), Jamie Dainton wrote: JD It's an annoying problem It's because the two strings are linked via a JD AND operator. I version 2 if we don't get filter scripting we should at JD least get NOT OR NAND NOR and XOR operators. It's annoying because it is not clear. If the two signal strings are both under first tab "rule", they are connected by AND. If a number of strings are under the second tab "Alternatives", they are connected by OR, with each others and with the "rule" rule. I don't think that this is self-evident by looking at the tabs. -- Cheers, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How can I filter the messages from TBUDL
On Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:56:29 +0100, Jamie Dainton wrote: JD -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- JD Hash: SHA1 JD Hello starc, JD Friday, June 30, 2000, 11:49:22, you wrote: s And it doesn't tell you s that two strings mean that both have to be satisfied. JD It's an annoying problem It's because the two strings are linked via a JD AND operator. I version 2 if we don't get filter scripting we should at JD least get NOT OR NAND NOR and XOR operators. -- -=A. Curtis Martin=-Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA Using TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "Be nice to other people, they outnumber you 5.5 billion to 1. " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How can I filter the messages from TBUDL
On Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:56:29 +0100, Jamie Dainton wrote: Oops. I hit CTRL+Enter twice accidentally. Sorry for the empty reply. :-) s And it doesn't tell you s that two strings mean that both have to be satisfied. JD It's an annoying problem It's because the two strings are linked via JD a AND operator. I version 2 if we don't get filter scripting we JD should at least get NOT OR NAND NOR and XOR operators. You can create all those operators using what's there. With the 'AND" and 'Alternative' filter strings. For each filter string you may define it whether to filter if the string is present or if it's not present through the 'presence' option. It seemed pretty clear to me once I scanned the help. There are however some other aspects of the filtering which is far from clear and is undocumented, mainly the flexibility one has with using the filter sets.. :-( -- -=A. Curtis Martin=-Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA Using TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "C++ should have been called D " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How can I filter the messages from TBUDL
Hi Ming-Li, On Friday, August 11, 2000 at 22:18:12 GMT -0700 (which was 10:18 PM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: StringLocation Presence Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]KludgesYes Thanks. That works, too. But I don't see why it's "nicer" than a plain "sender" test. TBUDL list server sets both the SENDER field and the REPLY-TO field in the header, so a simple "sender" test should work as well as your method, and it's easier to setup, especially when you want to put TBUDL and TBBETA in one folder (that's what I do). Ah, see I separate TBUDL and TBBETA mail. So in my situation, any messages that are addressed to both need to be differentiated so that they can go to the individual folders. The string I suggested does this job beautifully, hence my use of "nicer." I suppose I could have chosen a better word. StringLocation Presence Reply-To: TBUDL|TBBETASenderYes It haven't missed a message, yet. With the way you have written the string, what is TB searching for? Is it, The strings "Reply-To: TBUDL" or "TBBETA" in the sender fields. Or is TB looking for, The strings "Reply-To: TBUDL" or "Reply-To: TBBETA" in the sender fields. I'm curious as to the function of the | method of making an OR connection. It has always seemed less ambiguous to me to use the Alternatives tab for OR relationships in my filter strings. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: How can I filter the messages from TBUDL
Hello Gerd, GE I always thought I'm the only one having problems with the "pipe"-symbol. It Should a space exist between the pipe and text: test1|test2 OR test1 | test2 -- Best regards, Marcmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: How can I filter the messages from TBUDL(found the mistake)
Hello Chuck, Saturday, August 12, 2000, 1:17:40 AM, you wrote: CS Setup a filter to move messages from in box to a seperate folder. CS Filter with the string: CS [EMAIL PROTECTED] CS with the location as: CS Recipient CS with Presence set as: CS yes. CS Make sure the filter is active and this should work. It does for me. I had this rule all the time and it didn't work. But now I know why :) The problem is, this was my second filter rule and now I took a closer look, and there is an option that says "continue processing with other rules" that has to be checked, and it wasn't(a bad default in my opinion). So the processing stopped after my first rule. I just checked that box now, and hopefully it should work. Thanks, starc -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How can I filter the messages from TBUDL(found the mistake)
On Thursday, June 29, 2000 at 8:13 AM or thereabouts, starc wrote the following about How can I filter the messages from TBUDL(found the mistake): starc The problem is, this was my second filter rule and now I took a starc closer look, and there is an option that says "continue starc processing with other rules" that has to be checked, and it starc wasn't(a bad default in my opinion). Agreed. Chuck -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Chuck Mattsen[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.users.uswest.net/~mattsen =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Random Thought/Quote for this Message: We make our own fortunes and call them our fate. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How can I filter the messages from TBUDL(found the mistake)
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:13:45 -0300, starc wrote: s I had this rule all the time and it didn't work. But now I know why s :) The problem is, this was my second filter rule and now I took a s closer look, and there is an option that says "continue processing s with other rules" that has to be checked, and it wasn't(a bad default s in my opinion). So the processing stopped after my first rule. I just s checked that box now, and hopefully it should work. H. I have 25 incoming message filter rules, all working nicely and not one of them has that option checked. In fact, I've never enabled this 'continue processing with other rules' option since using TB!. Never had to and I have filter rules for all categories in use, ie, replied, read and outgoing filter rules. Be sure to tell us if this option solves the problem. -- -=A. Curtis Martin=-Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA Using TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "Never enter a battle of wits unarmed. " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How can I filter the messages from TBUDL(found the mistake)
Hi starc, I had this rule all the time and it didn't work. But now I know why :) The problem is, this was my second filter rule and now I took a closer look, and there is an option that says "continue processing with other rules" that has to be checked, and it wasn't It has to be checked only when you other rules to be applied to the messages that has been handled by the first rule. It won't prevent other rules to be applied to other messages (that don't match the first rule). If indeed enabling the option solves your problem, then the first rule is preempting the second rule, meaning you've probably had too broad a filter definition for the first rule. (a bad default in my opinion). It's a good default for me (and I guess you'll agree if understand what exactly the option means), since few of my messages have to be handled by more than one rule. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How can I filter the messages from TBUDL
Hi Januk, StringLocation Presence Reply-To: TBUDL|TBBETASenderYes It haven't missed a message, yet. With the way you have written the string, what is TB searching for? Oops, mistaken. I copied yours and modified, but didn't make it right. Mine is in fact: String LocationPresence TBUDL|TBBETA Sender Yes I don't need the "Reply-To:" field identifier, since I'm not using the "Kludge" test. I'm curious as to the function of the | method of making an OR connection. It has always seemed less ambiguous to me to use the Alternatives tab for OR relationships in my filter strings. Generally speaking, I use the alternative sets only when different "locations" (or in rare cases, "presence") are involved. In this case, since both strings are sought in "Sender", there's no need to use alternative sets. Theoretically, "(TBUDL in SENDER) or (TBBETA in SENDER)" is the same as "(TBUDL or TBBETA) in SENDER", but the latter is more natural to me. I think it's just a matter of habit. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: How can I filter the messages from TBUDL
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Marc, on Sat, 12 Aug 2000 09:32:31 -0400 GMT your local time, which was 12.08.2000, 15:32:31 (GMT+0200) my local time, you wrote about "How can I filter the messages from TBUDL": M Should a space exist between the pipe and text: M test1|test2 OR test1 | test2 AFAIK without space ! As long as you don't use special characters as [] or "" you don't have to put the whole selection string in ' '. But when I tried it it never worked the way I wanted (Version 1.42). Since then I use the Alternatives tab with great success !! - -- Best regards, Gerd Using The Bat! 1.45 S/MIME under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Digitally signed for authentication purposes ! Gerd Ewald iQA/AwUBOZVIAUy/sHrVbGGHEQKO4QCg6kSnyFL2/kaerGkCzvCxQgKyIOsAnRRE FyYgCqcSN5HI1C5mMBLOcJ8k =TSRQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How can I filter the messages from TBUDL
On Thursday, June 29, 2000 at 05:36:03 GMT -0300 (which was 4:36 AM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: Hello starc, Hello TBUDL, can someone please tell me how I can setup a filter to make all messages from TBUDL go to a specific folder? I have made a rule that should move all mail with [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the recipient to this folder, but it doesn't work(why not?). Setup a filter to move messages from in box to a seperate folder. Filter with the string: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the location as: Recipient with Presence set as: yes. Make sure the filter is active and this should work. It does for me. Chuck Smith [ TB! 1.46 Beta/3 | Windows NT 4.0 Service Pack 6 ] PGP Keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendPGPKeys -- Can I speak to someone higher up the food-chain please? -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How can I filter the messages from TBUDL
Hello Ming-Li, On Friday, August 11, 2000 at 21:12:10 GMT -0700 (which was 9:12 PM where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: I personally use "sender" test instead of "recipient" test, because in some rare cases, the sender put TBUDL in the BCC list which won't shown in the headers. Out of the 1440 messages in my current TBUDL/TBBETA folder (about 10 days' volume), there's only one such case. I use a slightly nicer system with: StringLocation Presence Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]KludgesYes This works for any mail that is sent to multiple lists, as well as the BCC case you mentioned. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How can I filter the messages from TBUDL
Hi Starc, s can someone please tell me how I can setup a filter to make all s messages from TBUDL go to a specific folder? I have made a rule s that should move all mail with [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the s recipient to this folder, but it doesn't work(why not?). What works for me is the following: Strings: TBUDL Location: Sender Presence: Yes The filter is checked "Active" This seems to work, and I belive that I simply copied it from the original instruction message that I received when I subscribed. Interestingly, now that I look at the headers of the messages, I don't see TBUDL in the "From" field...yet the filter works. Perhaps someone here could enlighten me on this! :-) -- Regards, Mike Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mike Harlos Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada PGP Keys: DH/DSS- 0x8CD85BCERSA- 0xBBDB40B1 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How can I filter the messages from TBUDL
Hallo Mike, On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 23:33:10 -0500 GMT (12/08/2000, 12:33 +0800 GMT), Mike Harlos wrote: MH Interestingly, now that I look at the headers of the messages, I MH don't see TBUDL in the "From" field...yet the filter works. MH Perhaps someone here could enlighten me on this! :-) I think the "Sender" instruction includes the "Reply-To" field. -- Cheers, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How can I filter the messages from TBUDL
Hi Januk, I use a slightly nicer system with: StringLocation Presence Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]KludgesYes This works for any mail that is sent to multiple lists, as well as the BCC case you mentioned. Thanks. That works, too. But I don't see why it's "nicer" than a plain "sender" test. TBUDL list server sets both the SENDER field and the REPLY-TO field in the header, so a simple "sender" test should work as well as your method, and it's easier to setup, especially when you want to put TBUDL and TBBETA in one folder (that's what I do). StringLocation Presence Reply-To: TBUDL|TBBETASenderYes It haven't missed a message, yet. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
