Re: IMAP -- for dummies, please
On 2019-08-26 at 5:17 PM, Melissa Reese wrote: > I'm still struggling with the folders/templates/filters transfer (or > complete recreation, if need be -- eek!). When using IMAP, basic filtering (moving messages, auto-forwarding, marking as read, flagging, ) is often performed on the server. Each service provider has a different interface to filters. If, based on your email, you're using GMX, they have documentation about how their filters work at https://support.gmx.com/email/filter-rules/index.html#breadcrumb_help_email_filter-rules_about If you're using a different provider, you'll need to check their help pages for details. The advantage of moving them to the server is that all your clients--from multiple copies of The Bat! on different machines to your mobile phone--will see the same messages in the same folders. -- Christopher Warrington Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP -- for dummies, please
On 27 August 2019 at 01:16 Melissa Reese wrote and made these points MR> On Monday, August 26, 2019, at 4:06:07 PM PST, you wrote: ... MR> I'm still struggling with the folders/templates/filters transfer (or MR> complete recreation, if need be -- eek!). Oh - it is a complete recreation. Like I said, It took me ages. But I had over 500,000 emails in what was my main pop3 account. But it really was such a worthwhile exercise in terms of multi-device mailbox access. -- Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v8.8.9.9 (ALPHA) on Windows 10.0.17763 pgpVubAFTA0YU.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP -- for dummies, please
Hi Robin, On Monday, August 26, 2019, at 4:06:07 PM PST, you wrote: > That's because it's IMAP. > ... > So I think it just comes with the change in protocol Thanks Robin. Just something new I need to get used to. I'm still struggling with the folders/templates/filters transfer (or complete recreation, if need be -- eek!). -- Melissa PGP Public Key: http://tinyurl.com/2cmefzy TB! v7.3.6 on Windows 10.0.17134 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP -- for dummies, please
On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 at 13:15:33 -0800,Melissa wrote: > Also, I'm noticing something peculiar with checking messages via the > IMAP account... > The "Connection Centre" doesn't pop up on-screen automatically as it > does when I check for new mail in my POP accounts, but apparently, it > does open (have to click on it to show on-screen). However, it says > it's in "IDLE mode", and I have to "abort all" and manually close the > "Connection Centre", or it will just sit there, apparently doing > nothing. That's because it's IMAP. Wikipedia tells us (amongst other things) that: When using POP, clients typically connect to the e-mail server briefly, only as long as it takes to download new messages. When using IMAP4, clients often stay connected as long as the user interface is active and download message content on demand. For users with many or large messages, this IMAP4 usage pattern can result in faster response times. and that: IMAP4 clients need to maintain a TCP/IP connection to the IMAP server in order to be notified of the arrival of new mail. So I think it just comes with the change in protocol -- Robin Using The Bat! v8.8.9 Windows 10.0 Build 18362 Popfile v1.1.3 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP -- for dummies, please
On 26 August 2019 at 22:15 Melissa Reese wrote and made these points MR> Thanks for getting back to me so quickly, You are most welcome. MR>>> Now, is there a way for me to transfer all my folders, filters, etc. MR>>> from my current POP3 account into this new IMAP account/folder? >> This is something I remember doing by dragging messages from the pop >> folders into the IMAP ones, one folder at a time. It was painful. MR> I'm using Windows 10. Do I accomplish this via Windows Explorer? Or MR> within TB? How do I get all my filters and templates transferred? Is MR> that even possible? I mean within TB itself. Filters and templates - copy / paste. It's arduous and time consuming, but one off - especially if you make use of Common filters and Quick Templates. MR> Also, I'm noticing something peculiar with checking messages via the MR> IMAP account... MR> The "Connection Centre" doesn't pop up on-screen automatically as it MR> does when I check for new mail in my POP accounts, but apparently, it MR> does open (have to click on it to show on-screen). However, it says MR> it's in "IDLE mode", and I have to "abort all" and manually close the MR> "Connection Centre", or it will just sit there, apparently doing MR> nothing. Not something I use, so I can't help with that. -- Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v8.8.9.9 (ALPHA) on Windows 10.0.17763 pgpo_dzVJ4s7C.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP -- for dummies, please
Hi Marck, Thanks for getting back to me so quickly, On Monday, August 26, 2019, at 12:47:18 PM PST, you wrote: MR>> Now, is there a way for me to transfer all my folders, filters, etc. MR>> from my current POP3 account into this new IMAP account/folder? > This is something I remember doing by dragging messages from the pop > folders into the IMAP ones, one folder at a time. It was painful. I'm using Windows 10. Do I accomplish this via Windows Explorer? Or within TB? How do I get all my filters and templates transferred? Is that even possible? Also, I'm noticing something peculiar with checking messages via the IMAP account... The "Connection Centre" doesn't pop up on-screen automatically as it does when I check for new mail in my POP accounts, but apparently, it does open (have to click on it to show on-screen). However, it says it's in "IDLE mode", and I have to "abort all" and manually close the "Connection Centre", or it will just sit there, apparently doing nothing. -- Melissa PGP Public Key: http://tinyurl.com/2cmefzy TB! v7.3.6 on Windows 10.0.17134 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP -- for dummies, please
Hi again, On Monday, August 26, 2019, at 12:29:46 PM PST, you wrote: > Hi, > Sorry to reply to myself, but here's an update... Oh no, here we go again... When I first set up the new IMAP account, it instantly downloaded the latest 26 messages, so I just assumed all was well. Since then, when I try to check email for that new account, I'm just getting this, and nothing more: 8/26/2019, 12:48:55: IMAP - TLS handshake complete 8/26/2019, 12:48:55: IMAP - Connected to IMAP server (imap.secureserver.net) >8/26/2019, 12:48:55: IMAP - Fenix ready. 8/26/2019, 12:48:55: IMAP - Authenticating (user: "meli...@willkayakforfood.net", method: "LOGIN")... 8/26/2019, 12:48:55: IMAP - IMAP server authentication OK, server says "LOGIN Full IMAP support is enabled" -- Melissa PGP Public Key: http://tinyurl.com/2cmefzy TB! v7.3.6 on Windows 10.0.17134 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP -- for dummies, please
On 26 August 2019 at 21:29 Melissa Reese wrote and made these points ... >> Could someone please give me--or point to--all the proper settings I >> need to get IMAP working in my TB? With thousands of messages in the >> many folders of the account in question, I certainly don't want to >> have to start a whole new account/folder and potentially lose all my >> messages, which I refer to often when looking for something. MR> Okay, as an experiment, I set up a "new account" (IMAP). It works. MR> Now, is there a way for me to transfer all my folders, filters, etc. MR> from my current POP3 account into this new IMAP account/folder? This is something I remember doing by dragging messages from the pop folders into the IMAP ones, one folder at a time. It was painful. -- Cheers -- Marck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v8.8.9.9 (ALPHA) on Windows 10.0.17763 pgpfOzg7n8rT6.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP -- for dummies, please
Hi, Sorry to reply to myself, but here's an update... On Monday, August 26, 2019, at 12:03:12 PM PST, you wrote: > Could someone please give me--or point to--all the proper settings I > need to get IMAP working in my TB? With thousands of messages in the > many folders of the account in question, I certainly don't want to > have to start a whole new account/folder and potentially lose all my > messages, which I refer to often when looking for something. Okay, as an experiment, I set up a "new account" (IMAP). It works. Now, is there a way for me to transfer all my folders, filters, etc. from my current POP3 account into this new IMAP account/folder? -- Melissa PGP Public Key: http://tinyurl.com/2cmefzy TB! v7.3.6 on Windows 10.0.17134 Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP -- for dummies, please
Hello fellow Batters, It's been a while since I've had to ask a question here, but now it seems I'm going to be switching to IMAP after using POP3 forever. I've been trying to set up my primary email account (not the one used for this email list), but have been so far unsuccessful. When I look at my settings after filling in all the supposed IMAP stuff, it still says "Protocol: POP3". When I click on "Change", I'm only presented with two options: "POP3" or "Exchange". I'm currently using TB version 7.x. When talking to the tech person at my email server provider, he said "Don't use "Exchange". Could someone please give me--or point to--all the proper settings I need to get IMAP working in my TB? With thousands of messages in the many folders of the account in question, I certainly don't want to have to start a whole new account/folder and potentially lose all my messages, which I refer to often when looking for something. So far, the closest I've gotten is to "TLS handshake complete" -- then nothing. No incoming email, even though I know there should be incoming messages. I would need the proper settings for the "Authentication" options as well -- for both sending and receiving. Thanks! -- Melissa Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
