Re: IS a Voyager U3 version planned ?
hi, Thursday, June 1, 2006, 10:34:22 PM, you wrote: vv>> another way to make a living upon graduation. > I've already graduated - I teach there! ;-) even better. as a customer you'll provide ROI for their education. ;) -- regards, vitaliemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IS a Voyager U3 version planned ?
Hello vitalie, On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 22:17:18 +0300 GMT (02/06/2006, 02:17 +0700 GMT), vitalie vrabie wrote: vv> another way to make a living upon graduation. I've already graduated - I teach there! ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Subway: "We Are Not Public Transportation, Dammit" http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.80.06 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IS a Voyager U3 version planned ?
hi, Thursday, June 1, 2006, 9:57:14 PM, you wrote: > They also just blocked port 25. I cannot send with TB from my home > computer anymore when I'm connected via the university. Probably > another security measure, but it makes the free dial-up pretty > useless. start some ISP business and this measure as an attempt to build a customer base. another way to make a living upon graduation. why not, eventually? :) -- regards, vitaliemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IS a Voyager U3 version planned ?
Hello vitalie, On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 21:01:08 +0300 GMT (02/06/2006, 01:01 +0700 GMT), vitalie vrabie wrote: vv> sure, many universities do have this for at least a decade. but vv> not so many graduates do indeed figure out how to provide this vv> *commercially* and be able to make a living. :) True, but not my point. I just wanted to say that our IT department does have some good sides. They also just blocked port 25. I cannot send with TB from my home computer anymore when I'm connected via the university. Probably another security measure, but it makes the free dial-up pretty useless. vv> Voyager's target market is, let's be honest, by far not only vv> undergraduates in academic environments. what are the chances that vv> someone on travel will go to some university lab and not to a vv> simple cafe to do emailing? I agree with you on this. -- Cheers, Thomas. Our parents were never our age. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.80.06 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IS a Voyager U3 version planned ?
hi, Thursday, June 1, 2006, 8:09:22 PM, you wrote: > We have something that sounds similar to this at our university. You > can run any file you want on the user PCs, and you can save your work, > which many people do on the desktop. Once the computer is shut down > and rebooted, it is the original again, all saved or downloaded files > gone. BTW the original setup includes an AV software, and the signature > files would be on the server, I'd think. sure, many universities do have this for at least a decade. but not so many graduates do indeed figure out how to provide this *commercially* and be able to make a living. :) Voyager's target market is, let's be honest, by far not only undergraduates in academic environments. what are the chances that someone on travel will go to some university lab and not to a simple cafe to do emailing? -- regards, vitaliemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IS a Voyager U3 version planned ?
Hello vitalie, On Wed, 31 May 2006 22:55:30 +0300 GMT (01/06/2006, 02:55 +0700 GMT), vitalie vrabie wrote: vv> by the way. the experience i've had in Romania was the best one vv> with public computers. as a matter of rule, all of the public vv> computers there did boot from the LAN, then filled the HD from an vv> image on the LAN, then booted Windows. they didn't disable vv> anything, they just make damn sure that any of the user's actions vv> won't affect the next user. very simple and quite straightforward. vv> and they did this cleanup right after the user decides to leave, vv> thus not only being quickly ready for the next user, but showing vv> this user how traces are wiped to keep him/her calm. We have something that sounds similar to this at our university. You can run any file you want on the user PCs, and you can save your work, which many people do on the desktop. Once the computer is shut down and rebooted, it is the original again, all saved or downloaded files gone. BTW the original setup includes an AV software, and the signature files would be on the server, I'd think. -- Cheers, Thomas. Who was the first person to look at a cow and say," I think I'll squeeze these dangly things here, and drink whatever comes out"? http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.80.06 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IS a Voyager U3 version planned ?
hi, Friday, May 26, 2006, 5:54:34 PM, you wrote: > Interesting. So this drive has it's own spec'ed-down OS, or am I > understanding this wrong? basically, you get it right. they suggest their own api that replaces registry access, plus some means of authenticating the program for accessing its data files. given the fact that malware can quite easily sneak between the app and the U3 driver/DLL, the resulting security level is doubtful enough for any serious application. even more, dynamically loading of any driver requires administrator privileges on Windows by default, which renders the U3 technology pretty useless by default. how many of the public computers (Voyager's target market) do have this default changed? judging by other threads, their admins usually change the defaults in the exact opposite direction - towards disabling app-run from removable media at all. to Claud: yes, we've considered U3 about a year ago. - - - by the way. the experience i've had in Romania was the best one with public computers. as a matter of rule, all of the public computers there did boot from the LAN, then filled the HD from an image on the LAN, then booted Windows. they didn't disable anything, they just make damn sure that any of the user's actions won't affect the next user. very simple and quite straightforward. and they did this cleanup right after the user decides to leave, thus not only being quickly ready for the next user, but showing this user how traces are wiped to keep him/her calm. some of the clubs did even provide means for uploading the HD image back onto the server. offered at a separate price for the permanent users. very few of them did so, as very few of them have homogenous hardware. yes, some custom software is involved in this, as all these steps were fully automated. -- regards, vitaliemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IS a Voyager U3 version planned ?
Hello Claude, Friday, May 26, 2006, 7:31:17 AM, you wrote: CR> U3 it's a new USB platform. For more infos take a look at CR> http://u3.Com. Voyager works fine on a USB drive as is. AFAIK it is designed to be run like that. I have run it on a 128Mb USB stick as well as a 20Mb portable hard drive. -- Best regards, Scottmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.80.03 under Windows XP Professional/5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 (0 days 0:16:9) on Uno AMD Athlon MP pgp key: http://sfrederick.com/keys/ Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IS a Voyager U3 version planned ?
Hello Claude, On Fri, 26 May 2006 14:31:17 + (UTC) GMT (26/05/2006, 21:31 +0700 GMT), Claude Renaud wrote: CR> U3 it's a new USB platform. For more infos take a look at http://u3.Com. Interesting. So this drive has it's own spec'ed-down OS, or am I understanding this wrong? So what you are enquiring about is Voyager limited to this smaller kernel, right? Hm. I'm quite happy with Voyager as it is, all that U3 seems to provide is additional software that is run from the drive, such as IE. Am I missing something? -- Cheers, Thomas. What to not say to the nice policeman: So, uh, you on the take or what? http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.80.06 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IS a Voyager U3 version planned ?
Thomas Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Hello Claude, > > On Wed, 24 May 2006 19:33:03 + (UTC) GMT (25/05/2006, 02:33 +0700 GMT), > Claude Renaud wrote: > > CR> I would like to know if Ritlabs has plans to release an U3 version of the TB > CR> Voyager Edition ? > > U3? > U3 it's a new USB platform. For more infos take a look at http://u3.Com. Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IS a Voyager U3 version planned ?
Hello Thomas, Friday, May 26, 2006, 2:52:03 PM, you wrote: TF> U3? Bono's new band! :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! 3.80.06 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IS a Voyager U3 version planned ?
Hello Claude, On Wed, 24 May 2006 19:33:03 + (UTC) GMT (25/05/2006, 02:33 +0700 GMT), Claude Renaud wrote: CR> I would like to know if Ritlabs has plans to release an U3 version of the TB CR> Voyager Edition ? U3? -- Cheers, Thomas. Things You Would Never Know Without the Movies: Every time a person turns on the television to see the news, he instantly sees what he wants and what concerns him. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.80.06 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IS a Voyager U3 version planned ?
Hi, I would like to know if Ritlabs has plans to release an U3 version of the TB Voyager Edition ? Greetings, -- Claude Renaud Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
