Re: Correcting receive dates - is this possible?

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Thomas,

on Fri, 11 Jun 2004 23:01:58 +0700GMT, you wrote:

PM>> [Total Commander]

TF> No, TC can change file dates but not the dates of the messages in a
TF> .tbb file.

Yes, I see. Good thing the problem could be solved anyway. *S*

TF> It's a good tool though, it can do many things. I bought it a few
TF> years ago and wouldn't want to miss it.

Same here. I particularly like the FTP capabilities for quick and easy
website updatings, but this is getting OT... ;-)

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Re: Correcting receive dates - is this possible?

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Peter,

On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 21:07:08 +0200 GMT (11/06/2004, 02:07 +0700 GMT),
Peter Meyns wrote:

SM>> Is there anyway from within The Bat that I can change these dates
SM>> (using an appropriate offset)? Failing this, is there an obvious
SM>> and safe way to do this to the files outside of The Bat?

PM> I believe that you can do it with Total Commander.

No, TC can change file dates but not the dates of the messages in a
.tbb file.

It's a good tool though, it can do many things. I bought it a few
years ago and wouldn't want to miss it.

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Re: Mod: Cut mark (was: Correcting receive dates - is this possible?)

[Stuart Moore]

Hi Marck,

Friday, June 11, 2004, 10:56:05 AM, you wrote:

MDP> Dear Stuart,

MDP> just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have
MDP> instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Stuart.

I don't. Apologies to all. My signature is set correctly in my templates. I must have 
deleted them on the posts. No idea why. I can see it below now so if it does not 
appear below this ... I give up :-)

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Re[2]: Correcting receive dates - is this possible?

[Stuart Moore]

Hi MAU,

Friday, June 11, 2004, 12:07:56 AM, you wrote:

M> You may Tools/Export theses messages as .MSG, then delete them from
M> whatever folder you have them in and then do a Tools/import. The received
M> date and time will be that of when you do the import.
That cracked it. I set the clock back a few days (i.e. to what it should have been 
when receiving certain messages) and exported/deleted/imported sets of messages 
accordingly.

Thanks.

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Re: Correcting receive dates - is this possible?

[Robin Anson]

On Thu 10 June 2004, 21:30:52 +1000, Stuart Moore wrote:
> The cmos battery failed on my computer and my computer date was set
> back a few years. A whole load of messages have been downloaded with a
> receive date set to a few years back. This is highly incovenient for
> message managenment purposes. Is there anyway from within The Bat that
> I can change these dates (using an appropriate offset)? Failing this,
> is there an obvious and safe way to do this to the files outside of The
> Bat?

The way to do it is to export those affected messages into a UNIX
mailbox, and edit that with a text editor. The structure of the UNIX
mailbox is very simple and it should be obvious what needs to be changed
when you open it.

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Re: Correcting receive dates - is this possible?

[MAU]

Hello Stuart,

> The cmos battery failed on my computer and my computer date was set
> back a few years. A whole load of messages have been downloaded with a
> receive date set to a few years back. This is highly incovenient for
> message managenment purposes. Is there anyway from within The Bat that
> I can change these dates (using an appropriate offset)? Failing this,
> is there an obvious and safe way to do this to the files outside of
> The Bat?

You may Tools/Export theses messages as .MSG, then delete them from
whatever folder you have them in and then do a Tools/import. The received
date and time will be that of when you do the import.

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Re[2]: Correcting receive dates - is this possible?

[Stuart Moore]

Hi Peter,

Thursday, June 10, 2004, 8:07:08 PM, you wrote:

PM> Hi Stuart,

PM> on Thu, 10 Jun 2004 12:30:52 +0100GMT, you wrote:
PM> I believe that you can do it with Total Commander. It is shareware, so
PM> try to get it done during the trial period. You might want to buy it
PM> anyhow... ;-) http://www.ghisler.com
Thanks for the suggestion. This looks more like a shell alternative for Windows (like 
TakeCommand/4NT/4Dos from http://www.jpsoft.com) but does not seem to have the same 
level of file handling capability as required to edit within files. I will have a 
closer look.

Stuart



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Re: Correcting receive dates - is this possible?

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Stuart,

on Thu, 10 Jun 2004 12:30:52 +0100GMT, you wrote:

SM> The cmos battery failed on my computer and my computer date
SM> was set back a few years. A whole load of messages have been
SM> downloaded with a receive date set to a few years back. This is
SM> highly incovenient for message managenment purposes. Is there
SM> anyway from within The Bat that I can change these dates (using an
SM> appropriate offset)? Failing this, is there an obvious and safe
SM> way to do this to the files outside of The Bat?

I believe that you can do it with Total Commander. It is shareware, so
try to get it done during the trial period. You might want to buy it
anyhow... ;-) http://www.ghisler.com

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Re: Correcting receive dates - is this possible?

[Mica Mijatovic]

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 ~~( __ _"o   Was Thu, 10 Jun 2004, at 12:30:52 +0100,
@  @  when Stuart Moore wrote:

> The cmos battery failed on my computer and my computer date was set
> back a few years. A whole load of messages have been downloaded with a
> receive date set to a few years back. This is highly incovenient for
> message managenment purposes. Is there anyway from within The Bat that
> I can change these dates (using an appropriate offset)? Failing this,
> is there an obvious and safe way to do this to the files outside of
> The Bat?

I don't know from within Bat, but "outside of it" it should be possible,
but be careful. You could edit .tbb files and replace mentioned year of
receiving (assuming that day/month/time is correct).

As to other files, it can be possible with a UNIX utility called
"touch", since there is a version which works under Windows as well.

But, if you decide, slowly and be careful; try to make backups first.

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Correcting receive dates - is this possible?

[Stuart Moore]

The cmos battery failed on my computer and my computer date was set back a few years. 
A whole load of messages have been downloaded with a receive date set to a few years 
back. This is highly incovenient for message managenment purposes. Is there anyway 
from within The Bat that I can change these dates (using an appropriate offset)? 
Failing this, is there an obvious and safe way to do this to the files outside of The 
Bat?

Stuart



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Re: How is this possible

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo znark,

On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 08:11:27 +1000GMT (19-9-03, 0:11 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

z> What is the point to send an e-mail with only a subject header and
z> absolutely no other information?

It has no point. It's probably a mutilated message that's gotten to
you or a fragment that was garbled up and sent further as an
independent message, while the good fragment was resent and
incorporated into the real message. Another possibility would be that
is was inserted to hotmail account during some disk maintenance. (or
created due to a disk error) What pleads for the disk-options is the
fact that the message didn't have a message-id, when a message lacks a
proper id, the first mta should insert a proper message-id...

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Re:How is this possible

[znark]

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G'day Roelof,
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, at 01:24:28 [GMT +0200] (09:24 here) you wrote:

z>> How is it possible for this e-mail to get anywhere with only a
z>> subject header?

RO> Because the To: header isn't (shouldn't be) used for routing. You can
RO> put in your To: header what you like or don't use it at all. The
RO> destination for a message gets transferred via the so called 'smtp
RO> envelope' and it doesn't get saved  in the message.

Thanks - I think I got it.
I was also wondering...

What is the point to send an e-mail with only a subject header and
absolutely no other information?


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Re: How is this possible

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Gerard,

On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 13:35:42 +0200GMT (17-9-03, 13:35 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

G> It is that the TB! will not let you send an email without a To: address.

Yes, it does. TB doesn't whether you enter something in the To field.
Enter something in the BCC field and TB will send it away, even if
there's nothing as To or CC.
As I told you in my previous message, it was something I just did in
TBOT. Funny thing was that due to the lacking To: header some ISPs
inserted a To: header in the list message.

G> Just for fun I could try to see what the minimal info is.

You could try for TB, I think you can't do without a sender and an
addressee, but the latter could be anywhere: To, CC, BCC
Or consult RFC2822

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Re: How is this possible

[Gerard]

ON Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 11:52:38 AM, you wrote:
RO> Sure. Create a message without a To: header, but with a BCC: Actually
RO> that's something that's recently being discussed and done on TBOT.

RO> Apart from that, there's no reason at all for messages to be sent from
RO> the address mentioned in the From: header or to be sent to the address
RO> mentioned in the To: header. An example of the latter is this
RO> message: I'm putting [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the To: header and
RO> that's where it goes, but afterwards it's being send to you, me and
RO> some more. That re-addressing is done solely by means of the
RO> smtp-envelope, after all the To: header remains the same. And there's
RO> no relaying mta that thinks the To: header should be altered. (Some
RO> insert one when it's missing, but altering is never done.)

Roelof,

Your right of course and I can even do that by altering the email info
while it is on my mailserver, after it has been pre-processed for
sending.
It is that the TB! will not let you send an email without a To: address.

Just for fun I could try to see what the minimal info is.

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Re: How is this possible

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Gerard,

On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 09:31:36 +0200GMT (17-9-03, 9:31 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

RO>> Because the To: header isn't (shouldn't be) used for routing. You can
RO>> put in your To: header what you like or don't use it at all. The
RO>> destination for a message gets transferred via the so called 'smtp
RO>> envelope' and it doesn't get saved  in the message.

G> The so called 'smtp envelope' is initially uild from the info the
G> sender provides in the To field. Or do you know a way to send an
G> email without a to: field ?

Sure. Create a message without a To: header, but with a BCC: Actually
that's something that's recently being discussed and done on TBOT.

Apart from that, there's no reason at all for messages to be sent from
the address mentioned in the From: header or to be sent to the address
mentioned in the To: header. An example of the latter is this
message: I'm putting [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the To: header and
that's where it goes, but afterwards it's being send to you, me and
some more. That re-addressing is done solely by means of the
smtp-envelope, after all the To: header remains the same. And there's
no relaying mta that thinks the To: header should be altered. (Some
insert one when it's missing, but altering is never done.)

I realise that TB can't send a message without addressing it to the
address in the To: header, but that's because TB is written as a
normal e-mail client and not as something that does silly tricks. But
it's rather easy for me to write a simple script for my mail server
that creates a message with a valid To: header while the message
itself is being send to somewhere else.

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Re: How is this possible

[Gerard]

ON Wednesday, September 17, 2003, 1:24:28 AM, you wrote:
RO> Because the To: header isn't (shouldn't be) used for routing. You can
RO> put in your To: header what you like or don't use it at all. The
RO> destination for a message gets transferred via the so called 'smtp
RO> envelope' and it doesn't get saved  in the message.

Hi Roelof,
The so called 'smtp envelope' is initially uild from the info the sender
provides in the To field.
Or do you know a way to send an email without a to: field ?

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Re: How is this possible

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo znark,

On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 08:09:49 +1000GMT (17-9-03, 0:09 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

z> How is it possible for this e-mail to get anywhere with only a
z> subject header?

Because the To: header isn't (shouldn't be) used for routing. You can
put in your To: header what you like or don't use it at all. The
destination for a message gets transferred via the so called 'smtp
envelope' and it doesn't get saved  in the message.

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How is this possible

[znark]

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  X-Hotpop-Folder: bulk
is added by hotmail popper and

  X-Text-Classification: spam
is added by POPFile.

  How is it possible for this e-mail to get anywhere with only a
  subject header?

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Is this possible with v2.0's templates?

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Re: Is this possible?

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G> It is logged as an official bug.
That's a shame. Let's hope it gets fixed soon.


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Re: Is this possible?

[MAU]

Hello Gerard,

> Hi MAU,
> This is a known bug. It also applies to flags.

Thanks for the info. I hope Stuart sees your message.

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Re: Is this possible?

[Gerard]

ON Tuesday, July 15, 2003, 5:23:18 PM, you wrote:

M> It could be. It could also be that you are running a beta.


Hi MAU,
This is a known bug. It also applies to flags.
It looks like the data from the msg is stored in a buffer and then
compared to the filter condition.
If there is an action, like set a flag/colour group. This isn´t done
after al filtering on this msg has been done.

It is logged as an official bug.

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Re: Is this possible?

[MAU]

Hello Stuart,

> It's almost like the action to set the color group doesn't 'take'
> until all the filter processing has finished.

It could be. It could also be that you are running a beta.

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Re: Is this possible?

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M> I do this with a number of addresses. Let's call them A, B, C,...

M> I have a number of filters, one next to the other, and all the same:

I tried something similar with color groups:

Each filter was set up like this:

  If Recipient = X then
Move Inbox to Inbox
COPY message to Folder X
Associate with Color Group 'Filtered'
  Continue processing with other filters

At the end of the list I had:

  If Associated with Color Group 'Filtered' then
Delete Message

The problem was the message only got caught by the last filter if I
manually ran the filter. It's almost like the action to set the color
group doesn't 'take' until all the filter processing has finished.

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Re: Is this possible?

[MAU]

Hello Stuart,

> Just lately I have found myself mailing 2 or 3 of these people at the
> same time. Is there a way I can set up the filers so that if there are
> multiple addressees a copy goes to each folder without me ending up
> with the original being left in my inbox?

I do this with a number of addresses. Let's call them A, B, C,...

I have a number of filters, one next to the other, and all the same:

  If Recipient = X then
Move Inbox to Inbox
COPY message to Folder X
  Continue processing with other filters

Obviously, in each filter X = A, B, C...
I use "Recipient" but it should work just the same with "Kludges"

And finally, at the end of the series of filters I have another one:

  If Recipient = A
  OR Recipient = B
  OR Recipient = C
  OR 
 Move Inbox to Trash
 Mark message as read

(ORs are Alternatives)

It works just fine for me, no matter what combination of A, B, C, ...
etc., I get in a message.

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Re: Is this possible?

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>> Do you SWIM?
TF> Perfectly. I think.
Indeed you do. Nice one.

TVM.

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Re: Is this possible?

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Stuart,

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:33:55 +0100 GMT (15/07/03, 16:33 +0700 GMT),
Stuart Hemming wrote:

> Just lately I have found myself mailing 2 or 3 of these people at the
> same time. Is there a way I can set up the filers so that if there are
> multiple addressees a copy goes to each folder without me ending up
> with the original being left in my inbox?

The first filter should have two rules on the main tab:
Bill present in kludges AND
Bob present in Kludges

Move message to folder: Bill

and, under the Actions tab:
[X] Create a copy of the message in another folder: Bob.

If this filter doesn't catch (because only Bill or only Bob is present
in kludges), the other filters will work as usual.

I have a similar problem, but I handle it slightly differently. If
another folder called "Bill and Bob", and when both are present in
kludges, the message will be moved to that folder. This way, I see
immediately when the message was addressed to both.

Another idea is to move messages from Bill and from Bob into the smae
folder anyway, but colour them differently. Blue for Bill and green
for Bob. And of course, if the messages contains both Bill's and Bob's
email address, use violet.

> Do you SWIM?

Perfectly. I think.

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Is this possible?

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I have a number of folders that I keep mail from specific individuals
in. I also have filters set up to move messages to/from those
individuals in to the appropriate box.

Just lately I have found myself mailing 2 or 3 of these people at the
same time. Is there a way I can set up the filers so that if there are
multiple addressees a copy goes to each folder without me ending up
with the original being left in my inbox?

The filters work by checking for the individual's email address in
Kludges. I bcc myself on each outgoing message so that the copy gets
filed properly when copy gets mailed back to me. If I just set

[x] continue processing other rules

the bcc'd copy will always end up in my inbox. If I create a rule to
delete messages from me in the inbox (after the othere filters have
had a chance) I will lose any messages I bcc to me where there /isn't/
a specific folder for the addressee.

Do you SWIM?

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Re: Is this possible

[Gene Gough]

Sorry, I should have put the comments I was responding to in front in
this case.  Here they are:

D>> Is it possible to have auto cmplete for a nickname too. I used to be
D>> able to do this on the various Amiga EMailers and I kind of miss this.

ST> Try 1.60c - it should search for nicknames too...

and my respons is below.

Thursday, March 28, 2002, 9:57:34 AM, you wrote:



GG> Yes but that is almost useless when you can't restrict it to the
GG> nicknames only or at least cause it to search that field completely
GG> prior to any others.   If it finds a real name that matches the first
GG> few characters of the nickname before it finds the nickname then it
GG> stops.  And YOU CAN'T MAKE IT CONTINUE.   What is really needed is
GG> select buttons for all the current options plus nickname and the
GG> ability to indicate order if more than one option is selected.

GG> Current implementation fails if I attempt to find and auto complete
GG> the nickname KEVIN  when there is an entry

GG> Kevinry, Joejoek   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GG> Lewis, Kevinkevin  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

GG> Since nicknames are alwasy unique the ability to search on nicknames
GG> only gives you the best chance of selecting the correct entry.
GG> Currently because of the implementation I have had to turn off all
GG> auto complete and that can really be a pain.



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Re: Is this possible

[Gene Gough]

Yes but that is almost useless when you can't restrict it to the
nicknames only or at least cause it to search that field completely
prior to any others.   If it finds a real name that matches the first
few characters of the nickname before it finds the nickname then it
stops.  And YOU CAN'T MAKE IT CONTINUE.   What is really needed is
select buttons for all the current options plus nickname and the
ability to indicate order if more than one option is selected.

Current implementation fails if I attempt to find and auto complete
the nickname KEVIN  when there is an entry

Kevinry, Joejoek   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lewis, Kevinkevin  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Since nicknames are alwasy unique the ability to search on nicknames
only gives you the best chance of selecting the correct entry.
Currently because of the implementation I have had to turn off all
auto complete and that can really be a pain.




Thursday, March 28, 2002, 5:54:34 AM, you wrote:

ST> Hello Databug, 

D>> Is it possible to have auto cmplete for a nickname too. I used to be
D>> able to do this on the various Amiga EMailers and I kind of miss this.

ST> Try 1.60c - it should search for nicknames too...




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Re: Is this possible

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello reclutamiento!

On Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 2:00:49 PM you wrote:

> The 1.60a

You'll only need this small fix if you use CryptoAPI.

> And how do I do the updating to the 1.60?

You already are on 1.6 ... to update to a later version: for betas and
small fixes there usually is a packed EXE which can just be copied
over the old one (make a backup first or rename the old one).

For bigger updates there is a full installer that I recommend as it
also updates other files.

> or the 1.60a must be run independentely of 1.60?

You can but you don't have to.

The current fix, BTW, is 1.60c, which was announced yesterday on
TBBETA.

As this is TBUDL and I think the fixed EXE is on the Beta FTP I won't
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here - I hope so - mail me privately.




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Re[3]: Is this possible

[Databug]

Hello reclutamiento,
On the 28/03/2002, you babbled on about "Is this possible" 

rsn> Try 1.60c - it should search for nicknames too...
rsn> -
rsn> Where can I get that 1.60c?

yes I`d like to know that too. on the  site there only seem to be
download links for 1,60 and I already have that.


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Re[2]: Is this possible

[reclutamiento]

Try 1.60c - it should search for nicknames too...
-
Where can I get that 1.60c?

And how I install? Over the 1.60? or must be installed
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Re[3]: Is this possible

[reclutamiento]

Where can I get changes for thebat beta ?
The 1.60a

And how do I do the updating to the 1.60?

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Re[3]: Is this possible

[Marcus Ohlström]

On Thursday, March 28, 2002, 12:03, you wrote:

> where can i get changes for thebat beta ? or subcribe to beta
> mailling list?

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Re[2]: Is this possible

[Bob Ershov]

Hello Stefan,

Thursday, March 28, 2002, 1:54:34 PM, you wrote:

ST> Hello Databug, 

D>> Is it possible to have auto cmplete for a nickname too. I used to be
D>> able to do this on the various Amiga EMailers and I kind of miss this.

ST> Try 1.60c - it should search for nicknames too...
where can i get changes for thebat beta ? or subcribe to beta mailling
list?

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Re: Is this possible

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello Databug, 

D> Is it possible to have auto cmplete for a nickname too. I used to be
D> able to do this on the various Amiga EMailers and I kind of miss this.

Try 1.60c - it should search for nicknames too...

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Re: Is this possible

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Databug,

On Tuesday, March 26, 2002 at 11:18:38 PM you wrote (at least in
part):

D> I would just prefer to search/autocomlete on nicknames as I
D> have severall Friends called Steve and the Bat always chooses the
D> first one

Have you already tried using ++ when you typed in the first
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Re[3]: Is this possible

[Gene Gough]

Actually, when I babble about it I normally add that it needs to be
controlled by a switch so that the user has an option to limit the
search to nicknames or at very least, cause a pass through all of the
nickname prior to looking at any of the other fields.




Tuesday, March 26, 2002, 5:18:38 PM, you wrote:

D> Hello Gene,
D> On the 26/03/2002, you babbled on about "Is this possible" 



GG>> Every e-mail client I have used has that feature except BAT.  I
GG>> requested it about two weeks ago and while they didn't say yes, they
GG>> also didn't say no.  There was some private e-mail back and forth as
GG>> to what I would expect, etc. so  I think it was taken seriously.

D> I look forward to seeing this feature then. However I would like it
D> then to use the persons first name for the %TOFName tag in the
D> template. I would just prefer to search/autocomlete on nicknames as I
D> have severall Friends called Steve and the Bat always chooses the
D> first one unless I go by a match on the surname or EMail addy in the
D> latter case it uses the first part of the EMail addy for the %TOFName
D> wich is a little annoying.




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Re[2]: Is this possible

[Databug]

Hello Gene,
On the 26/03/2002, you babbled on about "Is this possible" 



GG> Every e-mail client I have used has that feature except BAT.  I
GG> requested it about two weeks ago and while they didn't say yes, they
GG> also didn't say no.  There was some private e-mail back and forth as
GG> to what I would expect, etc. so  I think it was taken seriously.

I look forward to seeing this feature then. However I would like it
then to use the persons first name for the %TOFName tag in the
template. I would just prefer to search/autocomlete on nicknames as I
have severall Friends called Steve and the Bat always chooses the
first one unless I go by a match on the surname or EMail addy in the
latter case it uses the first part of the EMail addy for the %TOFName
wich is a little annoying.


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Re[2]: Is this possible

[Gene Gough]

No, what he means and I meant was the ability to auto complete the
nickname and also to restrict the search to the nickname.  Current
implementation will stop if it finds a partial match in the name field
and may never reach the nickname that you were trying to use.




Tuesday, March 26, 2002, 4:10:07 PM, you wrote:

>> Is it possible to have auto cmplete for a nickname too.

JN> If you're asking whether TB! can complete a mailing address when you
JN> type in the name of an individual or group recipient, the answer is
JN> Yes. Add the nickname to the address book record under "Nickname
JN> (Handle)," then type that nickname on the appropriate line.

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Re: Is this possible

[Gene Gough]

Every e-mail client I have used has that feature except BAT.  I
requested it about two weeks ago and while they didn't say yes, they
also didn't say no.  There was some private e-mail back and forth as
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D> Hello all,
D> Is it possible to have auto cmplete for a nickname too. I used to be
D> able to do this on the various Amiga EMailers and I kind of miss this.

D> That`s all for now




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Re: Is this possible

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> Is it possible to have auto cmplete for a nickname too.

If you're asking whether TB! can complete a mailing address when you
type in the name of an individual or group recipient, the answer is
Yes. Add the nickname to the address book record under "Nickname
(Handle)," then type that nickname on the appropriate line.

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Is this possible

[Databug]

Hello all,
Is it possible to have auto cmplete for a nickname too. I used to be
able to do this on the various Amiga EMailers and I kind of miss this.

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