Re: Messages deleted in Inbox folder?

2002-01-31 Thread Gerard de Vries

 
ON Wednesday, January 30, 2002, 11:19:50 PM, you wrote:

ETM Yes, I agree that emptying another folder will send contents to trash for
ETM permanent deletion from trash.  But a tired user, late at night,
ETM isn't going to necessarily notice that he/she just dumped the sent

For regular emptying of the trash set a maximum number of days or
msg's. in the Trash Folder properties (Right Click)
I have mine set at 5 day's so I have some time to recover from my
mistakes or late night sessions :-)

Manually emptying should then only me a necessity if you have to
delete VERY confidential emails.

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Re[2]: Messages deleted in Inbox folder?

2002-01-31 Thread Terry G. Munson

Hi Gerard

On Thursday, January 31, 2002, Gerard wrote the following on the subject Messages 
deleted in Inbox folder?

 For regular emptying of the trash set a maximum number of days or
 msg's. in the Trash Folder properties (Right Click) I have mine set
 at 5 day's so I have some time to recover from my mistakes

I must be doing something wrong.  No matter how I set the properties
the folder is emptied on exit.

Thanks,

Terry


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under Windows NT Service Pack 1 2195


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Re: Messages deleted in Inbox folder?

2002-01-31 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Terry,

On Thursday, January 31, 2002 at 3:57:37 PM you wrote in
msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

TGM I must be doing something wrong.  No matter how I set the properties
TGM the folder is emptied on exit.

Check if 'Account' / 'Properties' / 'Options' / 'Empty Trash folder on
exit' is _unchecked_.

HTH Pit
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Re[2]: Messages deleted in Inbox folder?

2002-01-31 Thread Terry G. Munson

Hi Peter

On Thursday, January 31, 2002, Peter wrote the following on the subject Messages 
deleted in Inbox folder?

 Check if 'Account' / 'Properties' / 'Options' / 'Empty Trash folder on
 exit' is _unchecked_.

 HTH Pit

It was checked.

Thanks for the help!!

Later,

Terry


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Messages deleted in Inbox folder?

2002-01-30 Thread Markus Haag

Hi TheBat Mailinglist members!

I've been reading your mailinglist for months now. i often found some
good tipps in the discussions but now I got a serious problem:

Today I opened my TheBat Programme and I discovered that almost all
mails in my Inbox (the Inbox of one of my three accounts) were
deleted (originally there were about 2000 mails
in the Inbox) - only 3 were left (the most recent ones).

have you any ideas of what might have happend to my folder?
any suggestings how to solve this problem?
thanks for your help


Markus


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Re: Messages deleted in Inbox folder?

2002-01-30 Thread Roman Katzer

On Wednesday, January 30, 2002, 10:59:23, Markus Haag wrote:
 Today I opened my TheBat Programme and I discovered that almost all
 mails in my Inbox (the Inbox of one of my three accounts) were
 deleted (originally there were about 2000 mails
 in the Inbox) - only 3 were left (the most recent ones).

Maybe it's just the index file in your inbox. Go to where your Inbox mail is
stored (e.g. C:\Programme\TheBat\MAIL\Markus\Inbox) and _copy_ the files to
another directory for backup. Then delete the file called MESSAGES.TBI (it's
the index file for your inbox). Then start TB to see if it worked. Of
course, TB has to be shut down before you start this.
I might add that I generally find it a bad idea to leave mail in the Inbox.
It's unsorted and accidents can cause a big loss of mails. But then I also
make very frequent use of the backup functionality in TB. It rocks and it
has saved me from a lot of trouble (Windows' fault, not TB's).

Roman

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Re[2]: Messages deleted in Inbox folder?

2002-01-30 Thread ETM

I am a relatively new registered user of TB.  I did use ExpressAssist to
protect my OE mail.  I have also performed one backup of all of TB,
but have no proof that the backup was successful.  Is there a way to
confirm that everything is actually there?  Does the backup program
permit restoring in the event of a mail program failure?  How is
that done?

A wish would be that the Folder Menu specifically
spell out Empty Trash -- I think the potential to be in the wrong
folder when emptying trash is great.  Most other mail programs are
pretty specific on which folder is being emptied and require
selectively or consecutively marking mail for deletion from active
folders and only allow emptying the trash folder.

Elaine

 On Wednesday, January 30, 2002, 10:59:23, Markus Haag wrote:
 Today I opened my TheBat Programme and I discovered that almost all
 mails in my Inbox (the Inbox of one of my three accounts) were
 deleted (originally there were about 2000 mails
 in the Inbox) - only 3 were left (the most recent ones).


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Re: Messages deleted in Inbox folder?

2002-01-30 Thread Alastair Scott

On 30 January 2002 at 21:52 ETM wrote:

 I am a relatively new registered user of TB.  I did use ExpressAssist to
 protect my OE mail.  I have also performed one backup of all of TB,
 but have no proof that the backup was successful.  Is there a way to
 confirm that everything is actually there?  Does the backup program
 permit restoring in the event of a mail program failure?  How is
 that done?

It can't be verified, save by importing it into another copy of TB!
(I've never had any problem but, if the file format were made open,
someone could easily write a separate program to check that a backup
file followed the format hint, hint :)

If there's a catastrophic failure, the way you get everything back is:

1. Reinstall TB! from the installation package

2. Restore the backup file via Tools | Restore

and everything (including the program settings) is restored from the
time you made the backup.

[There's a minor annoyance in that, the first time you run TB!, it
forces you to go through an 'account wizard'. This can't be quit from
so you have to put in nonsensical account information then, when you
finally get to the main screen, restore the backup file and delete the
nonsense account. I've put in a feature request that the 'account
wizard' _can_ be quit].

 A wish would be that the Folder Menu specifically
 spell out Empty Trash -- I think the potential to be in the wrong
 folder when emptying trash is great.  Most other mail programs are
 pretty specific on which folder is being emptied and require
 selectively or consecutively marking mail for deletion from active
 folders and only allow emptying the trash folder.

Not quite sure what you're driving at here as 'empty folder' on any
other folder puts the contents of the folder into the Trash, then
'empty folder' inside Trash _really_ deletes those messages.

Alastair

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Re[2]: Messages deleted in Inbox folder?

2002-01-30 Thread ETM

Thanks, Alastair.  I will hope that I never have to restore but at
least I know it is there in that event.

Yes, I agree that emptying another folder will send contents to trash for
permanent deletion from trash.  But a tired user, late at night,
isn't going to necessarily notice that he/she just dumped the sent
or whatever other folder's mail into trash, and then emptied trash and compressed the 
program.
 It happens too often among the subscribers to my newbie mailing
 list for me to not be well aware of careless deletes.  If you can
 *only* empty trash, but must selectively choose all or some of
 another folder to send *to* trash, there is a safeguard against such
 careless deleting.  I believe that both Outlook Express and
 Netscape (and perhaps Eudora) have this minor safeguard.

 Elaine


Not quite sure what you're driving at here as 'empty folder' on any
other folder puts the contents of the folder into the Trash, then
'empty folder' inside Trash _really_ deletes those messages.

Alastair


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