Re: PGP encrypted and signed message cannot be decrypted in TB! if you don't have sender's public key to check signature

2009-09-03 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Saturday 29 August 2009 at 12:16:23 AM, in
mid:184290695.20090829001...@my_localhost, MFPA wrote:



 Can anybody confirm that a PGP encrypted and signed
 message cannot be decrypted in TB! if you don't have
 the sender's public key to check the signature?

 Also, if somebody pastes their key into a message body
 and then  clearsigns the message, TB! will not import
 the key to your keyring if the key is not already there
 to check the signature?


Can anybody duplicate this?

Alternatively, does anybody observe different behaviour?



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Re: PGP encrypted and signed message cannot be decrypted in TB! if you don't have sender's public key to check signature

2009-09-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MFPA,

On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 12:02:21 +0100 GMT (03/Sep/09, 18:02 PM +0700 GMT),
MFPA wrote:


 Can anybody confirm that a PGP encrypted and signed
 message cannot be decrypted in TB! if you don't have
 the sender's public key to check the signature?

I don't use PGP at the moment, but isn't it one of the points? I mean,
you have to exchange public keys (or download them from the
keyservers) in order to be able to decrypt and check the signature.

 Also, if somebody pastes their key into a message body
 and then  clearsigns the message, TB! will not import
 the key to your keyring if the key is not already there
 to check the signature?

I believe you need to issue a command to tell TB! to import the key.

M Can anybody duplicate this?

M Alternatively, does anybody observe different behaviour?

I cannot test it, but what you describe is what I would expect.

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Re: PGP encrypted and signed message cannot be decrypted in TB! if you don't have sender's public key to check signature

2009-09-03 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Thursday 3 September 2009 at 4:03:02 PM, in
mid:56009531.20090903220...@thomas-bkk.my-fqdn.de, Thomas Fernandez
wrote:



 I don't use PGP at the moment, but isn't it one of the
 points? I mean, you have to exchange public keys (or
 download them from the keyservers) in order to be able
 to decrypt and check the signature.

Sorry, I worded that badly. The behaviour I am questioning seems
peculiar to The Bat!. It is usually possible with PGP (or GPG) to
decrypt a message that is encrypted to your key, whether or not it
happens to also be signed and whether or not you have a key to check
the signature. TB! will not do this.


You need your secret key to sign a message.

Anybody needs your public key to check a signature that you made with 
your secret key.


You need somebody's public key to encrypt to them.  

You need your secret key to decrypt a message that somebody has
encrypted to your public key. You do not need their key to decrypt 
the message.



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Re: PGP encrypted and signed message cannot be decrypted in TB! if you don't have sender's public key to check signature

2009-09-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MFPA,

On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 19:16:14 +0100 GMT (04/Sep/09, 1:16 AM +0700 GMT),
MFPA wrote:

M You need your secret key to decrypt a message that somebody has
M encrypted to your public key. You do not need their key to decrypt 
M the message.

This is the part I misunderstood. Thanks.

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PGP encrypted and signed message cannot be decrypted in TB! if you don't have sender's public key to check signature

2009-08-28 Thread MFPA
Hi


Can anybody confirm that a PGP encrypted and signed message cannot be
decrypted in TB! if you don't have the sender's public key to check
the signature?

Also, if somebody pastes their key into a message body and then 
clearsigns the message, TB! will not import the key to your keyring if 
the key is not already there to check the signature?


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