Re[2]: Purging with IMAP
Hello Kevin, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 5:08:56 AM, you wrote: > Hi Mean Drake > - > On Tue, 28 Sep 2004, at 04:25:12 [GMT +0530] (which was 3:55 PM where > I live) you wrote: >> Compressing reclaims space space locally and makes folder easier to >> read for TB by removing the dead space of already deleted mails from >> folders. Purging on IMAP will permanently delete emails in the inbox >> on server that have been marked for deletion. > This is incorrect. Allie is correct in his description. Sorry for the confusion guys. But last might Compress was just not deleting the marked messages from web based interface. But of course it was night time :-) -- Best regards, Mean Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Purging with IMAP
Hi Mean Drake - On Tue, 28 Sep 2004, at 04:25:12 [GMT +0530] (which was 3:55 PM where I live) you wrote: > Compressing reclaims space space locally and makes folder easier to > read for TB by removing the dead space of already deleted mails from > folders. Purging on IMAP will permanently delete emails in the inbox > on server that have been marked for deletion. This is incorrect. Allie is correct in his description. From the TB documentation The "Purge" action will result in marking messages as deleted in folders where the messages either exceed the "Keep for nn days" property of the folder or exceed the folder's maximum message count, in which case older messages are marked deleted. This helps you to automatically manage the amount of space your mail base occupies as time goes by. (this is not available for IMAP as Allie indicated) Purge can be useful, for example, in a folder where you keep weekly price lists, a 7 day purge will make sure that only the current price list is kept. These messages stay in place, unseen, until the folder is Compressed. The "Compress" option removes messages marked as deleted from the message base files. This should be done periodically to keep used space to a minimum and to reclaim the space freed in purge, delete and filter operations. -- Best Regards, Kevin PGP Keys: idap://keyserver.pgp.com idap://europe.keys.pgp.com:11370 Using The Bat! v3.0.0.19 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 pgp7gVFRpv1Vh.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Purging with IMAP
Tim, [T] wrote: > Can someone give me a reminder on terminology? What's compressing, > and what's purging (on IMAP)? Compressing in TB! is the complete removal from the message base, all messages marked for deletion. Purging in TB! removes those messages that fit your purging criteria, i.e., messages beyond a certain time limit for the base or messages that would not be kept once the message number limit is exceeded. Usually a compress operation is done at the same time to completely remove the messages from the base. IMAP uses the term 'Expunge' to mean that you're permanently deleting from the IMAP mailbox in question, all messages marked for deletion. Since compression in TB! terms is the same as expunging in IMAP terminology, TB! seems to have retained using the word 'compression'. I rarely hit purge+compress to get rid of messages marked for deletion. I usually just use compress since TB! does not purge in IMAP. Purge+compress simply compresses. No purging is done. > The setting I described removes deleted messages from the server in > my setup -- is that purging or compressing? Compressing and it works here for me too. It saves me a lot of hassle with compressing manually. Usually the folder is compressed once I exit it. -- -= Allie =- . On a scale of 1 to 10, 4 is about 7. ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! v3.0.0.19 | SquirrelMail WebMail IMAP Server: Mdaemon Pro | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Purging with IMAP
Hello Tim, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 4:11:11 AM, you wrote: > Can someone give me a reminder on terminology? What's compressing, and what's > purging (on IMAP)? > The setting I described removes deleted messages from the server in my setup -- > is that purging or compressing? Compressing reclaims space space locally and makes folder easier to read for TB by removing the dead space of already deleted mails from folders. Purging on IMAP will permanently delete emails in the inbox on server that have been marked for deletion. -- Best regards, Mean Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: Purging with IMAP
Quoting Mean Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Account Properties >> Mail Management > IMAP Fine-Tune > > --> Compress folders when switching to another folder. > > This doesn't Purge. As I mentioned, only Folder>Compress+Purge as > suggested by Kevin seems to work. > Can someone give me a reminder on terminology? What's compressing, and what's purging (on IMAP)? The setting I described removes deleted messages from the server in my setup -- is that purging or compressing? -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Purging with IMAP
Hi Mean Drake - On Tue, 28 Sep 2004, at 03:26:53 [GMT +0530] (which was 2:56 PM where I live) you wrote: > This doesn't Purge. As I mentioned, only Folder>Compress+Purge as > suggested by Kevin seems to work. You can also try Folder/Maintenance and then selectively apply Purge+Compress to whatever folders you want. Now, I haven't had a lot of success with this with the 3.0 beta copies. I have found that TB has a mind of its own sometimes and expunges messages from folders other than my selection. That is my experience but I suggest caution. -- Best Regards, Kevin PGP Keys: idap://keyserver.pgp.com idap://europe.keys.pgp.com:11370 Using The Bat! v3.0.0.19 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgpn2bxvIoG32.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Purging with IMAP
Hello Tim, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 3:01:20 AM, you wrote: > On Tuesday, 28 September 2004, Mean Drake wrote: MD>> What happens is that the messages that I delete locally move to MD>> trash but even though I empty trash, the messages on server do MD>> not get purged. How do I purge all messages on server using TB? Account Properties >> Mail Management > IMAP Fine-Tune > --> Compress folders when switching to another folder. This doesn't Purge. As I mentioned, only Folder>Compress+Purge as suggested by Kevin seems to work. -- Best regards, Meanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Purging with IMAP
On Tuesday, 28 September 2004, Mean Drake wrote: MD> What happens is that the messages that I delete locally move to MD> trash but even though I empty trash, the messages on server do MD> not get purged. How do I purge all messages on server using TB? Account Properties > Mail Management > IMAP Fine-Tune --> Compress folders when switching to another folder. -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Cannot find a quick template "list" Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Purging with IMAP
Hello Joe, Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 2:38:15 AM, you wrote: > Hello Mean, > Monday, September 27, 2004, 4:57:29 PM, you wrote: >> Hello, >> Somehow I think there is a problem with IMAP folders. Using TB >> 3.0. >> What happens is that the messages that I delete locally move to >> trash but even though I empty trash, the messages on server do >> not get purged. How do I purge all messages on server using TB? Check -->> Accounts --> properties --> mail management -> > Make sure message management is set to delete messages from server after removed > from trash. I think Kevin's solution will aply here. The setting you mention is not present in TB 3.0. The Folder>Purge+Compress seems to be the way to go though but I must agree it is not that intuitive. -- Best regards, Mean Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Purging with IMAP
Hello Mean, Monday, September 27, 2004, 4:57:29 PM, you wrote: > Hello, > Somehow I think there is a problem with IMAP folders. Using TB > 3.0. > What happens is that the messages that I delete locally move to > trash but even though I empty trash, the messages on server do > not get purged. How do I purge all messages on server using TB? Check --> Accounts --> properties --> mail management -> Make sure message management is set to delete messages from server after removed from trash. -- Best regards, Joe Using The Bat! v3.0.0.8 with on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Purging with IMAP
Hi Mean Drake - On Tue, 28 Sep 2004, at 02:27:29 [GMT +0530] (which was 1:57 PM where I live) you wrote: > Somehow I think there is a problem with IMAP folders. Using TB > 3.0. > What happens is that the messages that I delete locally move to > trash but even though I empty trash, the messages on server do > not get purged. How do I purge all messages on server using TB? You need to do a Folder/Purge+Compress. Don't forget TB's version of delete only marks the message for "deletion." To actually remove the message from the server, it must be expunged. In TB's parlance, that is a purge & compress. RT could certainly implement this better. -- Best Regards, Kevin PGP Keys: idap://keyserver.pgp.com idap://europe.keys.pgp.com:11370 Using The Bat! v3.0.0.19 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgpM6wECBpBYP.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Purging with IMAP
Hello, Somehow I think there is a problem with IMAP folders. Using TB 3.0. What happens is that the messages that I delete locally move to trash but even though I empty trash, the messages on server do not get purged. How do I purge all messages on server using TB? -- Best regards, Mean mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
