Re: .msl file format
Hello 9Val, 04-Sep-2004 12:25, you wrote: ASK>> I'm still on v2.12 if it matters. > Then it is quite simple order.txt describes order of .msl files load > so all handles of first will have higher priority than from second > entry and so on. OK. So its best to remove other .msl file when I want only one smiley set to be interpreted. ASK>> Browsing the registry, I saw that *everything* from "Rit" is in HKey ASK>> Current User rather than HKey Local Machine (were I would've expected ASK>> it), is that normal/okay? > Sure. If you are using w2k or wxp I think you'll not like to share > preferences with other users :) I haven't had a closer look at it, if its only user settings, fully understandable. I was surprised to see no entry at all in HKLM, thats all. ASK>> I'd say it would be easier to have a selector for different "smiley ASK>> themes" - scan the images directory for .msl definitions and present ASK>> them in a dropdown box next to the "use smileys" prefs tickbox and/or ASK>> expand the context menu of the msg viewer to contain the different ASK>> themes > I understand, just have no time now Sure, no problem. I regard it as very low priority at the moment, too. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Most people would die, sooner than think; in fact, they do so. (Bertrand Russel) Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: .msl file format
Hello Alexander, ASK>>> I see a file "order.txt" in the images folder, and apparently it ASK>>> is written by TheBat... but what does it mean? >> Hmm, it shouldn't appear anymore - Max said that using of that file >> causes blah, blah, blah problems so I had to remove it ASK> I'm still on v2.12 if it matters. Then it is quite simple order.txt describes order of .msl files load so all handles of first will have higher priority than from second entry and so on. >> and now order is saved in bat registry key/MslOrder ASK> Browsing the registry, I saw that *everything* from "Rit" is in HKey ASK> Current User rather than HKey Local Machine (were I would've expected it), ASK> is that normal/okay? Sure. If you are using w2k or wxp I think you'll not like to share preferences with other users :) >> Does anybody need UI editor of order? ASK> I'd say it would be easier to have a selector for different "smiley ASK> themes" - scan the images directory for .msl definitions and present them ASK> in a dropdown box next to the "use smileys" prefs tickbox and/or expand the ASK> context menu of the msg viewer to contain the different themes I understand, just have no time now -- 9Val Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: .msl file format
Hello 9Val, 04-Sep-2004 02:15, you wrote: ASK>> is the .msl format for the smiley description explained somewhere? > Don't know, I understood it just looking :) For the most part of it, yes... but I am no programmer. :-) ASK>> I see a file "order.txt" in the images folder, and apparently it ASK>> is written by TheBat... but what does it mean? > Hmm, it shouldn't appear anymore - Max said that using of that file > causes blah, blah, blah problems so I had to remove it I'm still on v2.12 if it matters. > and now order is saved in bat registry key/MslOrder Browsing the registry, I saw that *everything* from "Rit" is in HKey Current User rather than HKey Local Machine (were I would've expected it), is that normal/okay? > Does anybody need UI editor of order? I'd say it would be easier to have a selector for different "smiley themes" - scan the images directory for .msl definitions and present them in a dropdown box next to the "use smileys" prefs tickbox and/or expand the context menu of the msg viewer to contain the different themes (I'm working on a "minimalistic" smiley set right now that only covers the basic :] and stuff, and I do not want anything else to be interpreted) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Tomorrow a stranger will say with masterly good sense precisely what we have thought and felt all the time, and we shall be forced to take with shame our own opinion from another. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: .msl file format
Hello Alexander, ASK> is the .msl format for the smiley description explained somewhere? Don't know, I understood it just looking :) ASK> I'd interpret the lines as: ASK> smiley="",value,"","" Correctly ASK> ...but what is the "value" exactly? I only see it being "0" in the ASK> default.msl and pdsf.msl files I have. Miranda-IM uses this format. And part of .msl are shipped with single .dll file. Value specifies index of icon in .dll. BTW, it is not implemented in TB! ASK> In addition, how does TheBat handle multiple .msl files? Handles from higher priority .msl override similar from others ASK> I see a file "order.txt" in the images folder, and apparently it ASK> is written by TheBat... but what does it mean? Hmm, it shouldn't appear anymore - Max said that using of that file causes blah, blah, blah problems so I had to remove it and now order is saved in bat registry key/MslOrder. Does anybody need UI editor of order? -- 9Val Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: .msl file format
Dear Alexander, @3-Sep-2004, 23:42 +0200 (03-Sep 22:42 UK time) Alexander S. Kunz [ASK] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: ASK> is the .msl format for the smiley description explained somewhere? I'm not sure where you'll find it, but it is a pre-existing syntax. It is used in, for instance, Miranda-IM for their smiley libraries - for all I know, it's the "Miranda Smiley Library" format! ASK> I'd interpret the lines as: ASK> smiley="",value,"","" ASK> ...but what is the "value" exactly? I only see it being "0" in ASK> the default.msl and pdsf.msl files I have. I have had a good dig around but couldn't find the definition. Ah - maybe a clue though. The Miranda msl files refer to DLLs. Perhaps these are the resource IDs within the DLL. ASK> In addition, how does TheBat handle multiple .msl files? I see a ASK> file "order.txt" in the images folder, and apparently it is ASK> written by TheBat... but what does it mean? 9val would be a better person to answer that question - if he's listening... -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone --List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpBrFfY856ZD.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: .msl file format
Hello Alexander! On Friday, September 03, 2004, 4:42 PM, you wrote: ASK> is the .msl format for the smiley description explained ASK> somewhere? Not so far as I know. It's 9Val's original design--he's one of the developers at RITLabs. He did it in his spare time and the others decided to incorporate it. From that, working with Leif, Roguemoticons were developed, which work on the same principle, and eventually the capability to have the Roguemoticons in the headers was developed, again, as I understand it, working with Leif. ASK> I'd interpret the lines as: ASK> smiley="",value,"","" ASK> ...but what is the "value" exactly? I only see it being "0" in the ASK> default.msl and pdsf.msl files I have. I'm nowhere near being a programmer. When I want to edit an .msl line in my own file on my own machine, I carefully copy the format of the one above it. ASK> In addition, how does TheBat handle multiple .msl files? I see a ASK> file "order.txt" in the images folder, and apparently it is ASK> written by TheBat... but what does it mean? I think The Bat! looks in both .msl files (we have no duplicate handles or images) and simply matches. The order.txt file may not even be necessary. I vaguely recall a post by Leif on tbot to that effect. But don't trust me on that--I could be wrong. Leif's a brand-new father and he's just been promoted to a brand-new job. But he's a Moderator here, and it's possible that he'll notice and answer your question. Additionally, Marck probably knows, and he might give you an answer, also. -- Best regards, Mary (PCWSmileys Administrator) http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/PCWSmileys.php The Bat! 3.0 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
