Re: Bat! cannot connect to server for outgoing mail

[Brian Clark]

Hello Melissa, 

(MCB == "Melissa Cameron Barsic") [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

MCB> Hello all.  I'm in some dire straits, so I hope some
MCB> of you can help me.  

MCB> I'm using The Bat! version 1.47 Halloween update,
MCB> under Windows 98.  The problem started ... at least a
MCB> week ago.  I'm not sure of its exact duration.  The
MCB> account in question here is the one I'm using to send
MCB> this e-mail, my Yahoo! mail account.

MCB> The problem is:  I can receive messages from the
MCB> servers for each of the two accounts I have on this
MCB> version of The Bat!.  However, when I try to reply to
MCB> a message, The Bat! hangs on the "Connecting to
MCB> server" dialog box and eventually tells me it can't
MCB> connect to the server.  It then files the unsent
MCB> messages in my outbox.  

MCB> I can send messages from the web client for Yahoo!
MCB> mail, just not from The Bat! as a desktop client.

I had the same problem when I switched to Yahoo! from Hotmail.

Log into your web-based account (in your browser), then go to 'Help
Desk', then go to 'POP Access and Forwarding' then go to 'Why am I
having difficulty sending Yahoo! Mail messages from an email client?'

Check out the first item listed I that section:

8<

"For security reasons, we require that you log in to our POP servers
before you may send mail from an email client. To do this, your email
client will need to download new messages before attempting to send
messages.

* If your email client sends mail first when you click "Send/Receive,"
you may need to click "Send/Receive" twice. If you can't send mail
after several tries, move messages out of the Outbox, attempt to
receive with an empty Outbox, and then try to send your message again.

* If you try both of the above steps and continue to have problems,
please make sure that you have entered your Yahoo! Mail Address as the
"From" address in your email client. You will not be able to send mail
if you have entered another address.

* Finally, you may also wish to call your ISP to ask if they block
outgoing mail servers."

>8

The first step solved my problem.

-Brian
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Re: Bat! cannot connect to server for outgoing mail

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hi Brian,

On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 22:48:11 -0500GMT (05/12/2000, 11:48 +0800GMT),
Brian Clark wrote:

MCB>> I can send messages from the web client for Yahoo!
MCB>> mail, just not from The Bat! as a desktop client.

BC> I had the same problem when I switched to Yahoo! from Hotmail.

BC> "For security reasons, we require that you log in to our POP servers
BC> before you may send mail from an email client. To do this, your email
BC> client will need to download new messages before attempting to send
BC> messages.

Go to Account / Properties / Transport. Click on the More... button
behind the SMTP server name. A new dialogue pops up, check the tickbox
"Use POP before SMTP".

This way, you don't need to hit send/receive twice. ;-)

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Re: Bat! cannot connect to server for outgoing mail

[Marck D. Pearlstone]

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Hi Brian,

On 05 December 2000 at 22:48:11 -0500 (which was 03:48 where I
live) Brian Clark wrote and made these points:

BC> "For security reasons, we require that you log in to our POP servers
BC> before you may send mail from an email client. To do this, your email
BC> client will need to download new messages before attempting to send
BC> messages.



BC> The first step solved my problem.

It  should  be pointed out that TB supports POP before SMTP. Check the
"Authentication" button by the SMTP send options.

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Re: Bat! cannot connect to server for outgoing mail

[Melissa Cameron Barsic]

Thanks for the advice, Brian.  Unfortunately, I
checked all those three, and they seem to be fine. 
The Bat! does receive before trying to send, I do have
the Yahoo! address as the From address for that
account, and if my ISP is blocking outgoing mal
servers, that's news to me.  I can certainly check on
it, though.

mcb

(MCB == "Melissa Cameron Barsic") [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

MCB> I'm using The Bat! version 1.47 Halloween update,
MCB> under Windows 98.  The problem started ... at
least a
MCB> week ago.  I'm not sure of its exact duration. 
The
MCB> account in question here is the one I'm using to
send
MCB> this e-mail, my Yahoo! mail account.

MCB> The problem is:  I can receive messages from the
MCB> servers for each of the two accounts I have on
this
MCB> version of The Bat!.  However, when I try to
reply to
MCB> a message, The Bat! hangs on the "Connecting to
MCB> server" dialog box and eventually tells me it
can't
MCB> connect to the server.  It then files the unsent
MCB> messages in my outbox.  

MCB> I can send messages from the web client for
Yahoo!
MCB> mail, just not from The Bat! as a desktop client.

Brain writes:
I had the same problem when I switched to Yahoo! from
Hotmail.

Log into your web-based account (in your browser),
then go to 'Help
Desk', then go to 'POP Access and Forwarding' then go
to 'Why am I
having difficulty sending Yahoo! Mail messages from an
email client?'

Check out the first item listed I that section:

The first step solved my problem.

-Brian
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Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products.
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Re: Bat! cannot connect to server for outgoing mail

[Brian Clark]

Hello Thomas, 

(TF == "Thomas Fernandez") [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

MCB>>> I can send messages from the web client for Yahoo!
MCB>>> mail, just not from The Bat! as a desktop client.

BC>> I had the same problem when I switched to Yahoo! from Hotmail.

BC>> "For security reasons, we require that you log in to our POP
BC>> servers before you may send mail from an email client. To do
BC>> this, your email client will need to download new messages before
BC>> attempting to send messages.

TF> Go to Account / Properties / Transport. Click on the More...
TF> button behind the SMTP server name. A new dialogue pops up, check
TF> the tickbox "Use POP before SMTP".


Hey, that's pretty slick. I didn't even notice that!

TB! seems to be the gift that keeps on giving.

-Brian
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Re: Bat! cannot connect to server for outgoing mail

[Syafril Hermansyah]

Hello Marck D. Pearlstone,

Responding  to  your  article  on  Tue, 5 Dec 2000 at 04:03:53 GMT +
(which was 05/12/2000 11:03 GMT +0700 my Local Time) :


BC>> "For security reasons, we require that you log in to our POP servers
BC>> before you may send mail from an email client. To do this, your email
BC>> client will need to download new messages before attempting to send
BC>> messages.

I  found that yahoo.com support SMTP Auth as well (not MD5 actually, but
it's OK).

MDP> 

BC>> The first step solved my problem.

MDP> It  should  be pointed out that TB supports POP before SMTP. Check the
MDP> "Authentication" button by the SMTP send options.

And point out, The Bat! also supporting SMTP Authentication.

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under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1

Created : Tuesday, December 05, 2000, 16:55:17 GMT +0700

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Re: Bat! cannot connect to server for outgoing mail

[Douglas Hinds]

Hello Melissa & other fellow TB! Users,

Monday, December 04, 2000, you stated:

MCB> ... I checked all those three, and they seem to be fine. The
MCB> Bat! does receive before trying to send, I do have the Yahoo!
MCB> address as the From address for that account,

MCB> and if my ISP is blocking outgoing mal servers, that's news to
MCB> me. I can certainly check on it, though.

Did you try using the ISPs own smtp server as the outgoing server?
(That sometimes works).

Also, IMO there are better free email account providers than yahoo.

DH

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Re: Bat! cannot connect to server for outgoing mail

[Melissa Cameron Barsic]

Hello all,

I thought some might be interested in the answer to this problem I
posted.  My ISP made adjustments to help block spam, one of which was
not to permit people to send from any mail server other than their
own.  So I had to change the smtp.mail.yahoo.com to mail.earthlink.net
and the problem is completely solved.  Too bad it took them nearly a
week to get back to me about it... *grumble*

Melissa

Monday, December 04, 2000, 10:37:42 PM, I wrote:

MCB> Hello all.  I'm in some dire straits, so I hope some
MCB> of you can help me.  

MCB> I'm using The Bat! version 1.47 Halloween update,
MCB> under Windows 98.  The problem started ... at least a
MCB> week ago.  I'm not sure of its exact duration.  The
MCB> account in question here is the one I'm using to send
MCB> this e-mail, my Yahoo! mail account.

MCB> The problem is:  I can receive messages from the
MCB> servers for each of the two accounts I have on this
MCB> version of The Bat!.  However, when I try to reply to
MCB> a message, The Bat! hangs on the "Connecting to
MCB> server" dialog box and eventually tells me it can't
MCB> connect to the server.  It then files the unsent
MCB> messages in my outbox.  

MCB> I can send messages from the web client for Yahoo!
MCB> mail, just not from The Bat! as a desktop client.

MCB> I checked with Yahoo!, to be sure I have the smpt and
MCB> pop servers correct in the preferences.  (I do.)  I
MCB> tried reinstalling the upgrade, to see if that made a
MCB> difference.  (It didn't.)  

MCB> Anyone have any ideas on what this might be and/or how
MCB> to fix it?

MCB> Thanks in advance,
MCB> Melissa


  

MCB> =
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MCB> Do You Yahoo!?
MCB> Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products.
MCB> http://shopping.yahoo.com/



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Re: Bat! cannot connect to server for outgoing mail

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hallo Melissa,

I had a worse problem when I was visiting my mother and logged in
through Hamburg.de.

When sending company email with my Taiwanese edmail address as sender,
I couldn't send, because Hamburg.de wouldn't let me use their smtp
server (even though I was logged in through them). They don't allow
usage of their smtp server when the sender details are not a valid
account with them.

I couldn't use my Taiwanese smtp server, because I was *not* logged in
through them, and the error message from my Taiwanese smtp server was
"We don't relay".

Of course, I have International Roaming on my Taiwanese account, but
the roaming service provider in Germany will only send encrypted
passwords, and the Taiwanese provider will only accept clear-text...

:-(

So I ended up sending from my GMX address and use the GMX smtp server.
But of course, that From address confused all my workmates as well as
my customers

At least Earthlink will let you use their smtp server when you are
logged in through them, regardless of your From address. When I am
logged in through my Taiwanese ISP, I can use their smtp server for
any From address, or can use any smtp server which will accept my
mails.

On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 11:51:58 -0500 GMT (11/12/2000, 00:51 +0800 GMT),
Melissa Cameron Barsic wrote:

MCB> I thought some might be interested in the answer to this problem I
MCB> posted.  My ISP made adjustments to help block spam, one of which was
MCB> not to permit people to send from any mail server other than their
MCB> own.  So I had to change the smtp.mail.yahoo.com to mail.earthlink.net
MCB> and the problem is completely solved.

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