Re: Bat Running Slow

2003-01-23 Thread Allister Jenks 
On Wednesday, 22 January 2003, at 12:56:27 a.m.,  wrote:

> Was it TB! taking 97% or some other process?
> In my case Zonelabs started acting up and taking all processor power.

Yes, it was TB! taking the cycles, but only when I tried to close it.

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Re: Bat Running Slow

2003-01-21 Thread Thomas Fernandez 
Hello Spike,

On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 08:51:20 -0500 GMT (21/01/03, 20:51 +0700 GMT),
Spike wrote:

> What are the rules TB! uses in the case where you have 240 messages,
> each with 01.jpg, 02.jpg, 03.jpg all in the same mail storage
> folder? I know that in the case of newsgroups, AGENT uses an
> "auto-increment" feature (optional). I've been unable to find a
> reference to this.

Let's say you have several messages with an attachment 01.jpg coming
in. The first one will be stored as 01.jpg, the second as 011.jpg, the
third one as 012.jpg, then 013.jpg and so on.

So it is an auto-increment feature, but it is not optional.

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Re: Bat Running Slow

2003-01-21 Thread Gerard 

ON Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 7:47:34 AM, you wrote:
AJ> I decided to close TB! and it wouldn't.  Checking the Task Manager it
AJ> was taking 97% of CPU cycles.

Hi Allister,

Was it TB! taking 97% or some other process?
In my case Zonelabs started acting up and taking all processor power.

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Re: Bat Running Slow

2003-01-20 Thread Allister Jenks 
On Friday, 17 January 2003, at 1:55:05 p.m.,  wrote:

> Yesterday, I noticed The Bat! running very slow. The messages are
> downloaded at normal speed, but processing through the filters is
> very slow. 10 messages take about 15 minutes!

I've just taken notice of this thread because of something that just
happened.  I'd just opened TB! and hit Ctrl-F2 as I always do.
Between this and another mailing list, there were 130 messages to
collect on this account (others had only a few and completed quickly).

When the connection centre showed it was up to message #117, I clicked
into the inbox of this account and at *precisely* that moment the
whole download process slowed significantly.  From 3-4 emails per
second (I have 128k ADSL), it slowed to about 3-4 seconds per email!
I clicked into a different account but it stayed slow on the download.
After it finally finished, I clicked back to this account and all I
got was a blank pane for the inbox.

I decided to close TB! and it wouldn't.  Checking the Task Manager it
was taking 97% of CPU cycles.  After killing it and restarting in the
normal manner, everything appears fine.  (Certainly the two emails
that had remained in the inbox, that I was going to look at, were
still there, along with 10s of others in folders where they had been
filtered to.

Personally I think it was a timing thing - something it was doing at
the instant I clicked on the inbox.  I do this all the time and
usually have no problems.

Just thought I'd add this in to see if it helps.  I suspect a bug.

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Re: Bat Running Slow

2003-01-20 Thread Roelof Otten 
Hallo Thomas,

On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 02:06:56 +0700GMT (20-1-03, 20:06 +0100GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

TF> So do I. Unfortunately, "compress on exit" is the default, so I
TF> have to change it manually each time I create a new folder.

Over here it's the other way around. The default is not to compress on
exit, while I prefer it that way, so I have to enable it whenever I
create a new folder.
It seems that somewhere there is an option that the both of us have
set against our wishes. We should swap. ;-)

>> I believe the last I remember, Marck had somewhere around 280,000
>> messages. I don't think there are *any* email clients that can
>> handle this kind of volume.
TF> I believe TB can. ;-)

Easily. After all they're not supposed to be in the same folder. ;-)


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Re: Bat Running Slow

2003-01-20 Thread Peter Meyns 
Hi Thomas,

on Tue, 21 Jan 2003 02:06:56 +0700GMT (20.01.03, 20:06 +0100GMT here),
you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

>> I use the Compress All Mailbox function on a fairly regular basis.

TF> So do I. Unfortunately, "compress on exit" is the default, so I have
TF> to change it manually each time I create a new folder.

You have to adjust a new folder anyway, so it's just one more thing to
observe... ;-)

>> I believe the last I remember, Marck had somewhere around 280,000
>> messages. I don't think there are *any* email clients that can
>> handle this kind of volume.

TF> I believe TB can. ;-)

AFAIK, TB! is only limited by system resources. You can give her all your
disk space for mails, and it will only take so long to access them as your
processor and RAM will need. :-)

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Re: Bat Running Slow

2003-01-20 Thread Thomas Fernandez 
Hello Wayne,

On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:47:43 -0800 GMT (21/01/03, 01:47 +0700 GMT),
Wayne Black wrote:

> Is there a way to disable the "exit mailbox compression"?

Folder / Properties / General / On exit...

> I use the Compress All Mailbox function on a fairly regular basis.

So do I. Unfortunately, "compress on exit" is the default, so I have
to change it manually each time I create a new folder.

> And by the way, how many messages does 9.56 GB represent?

That depends entirely on the size of the messages including attachment
stored inline.

> I believe the last I remember, Marck had somewhere around 280,000
> messages. I don't think there are *any* email clients that can
> handle this kind of volume.

I believe TB can. ;-)

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Re: Bat Running Slow

2003-01-20 Thread Wayne Black 
Monday, January 20, 2003 at 10:33 AM (Pacific Time)

Hello Spike,  This is a reply to your message dated
Friday, January 17, 2003 at 3:15:30 PM, when you wrote:

MD>> Is there an upper limite The Bat! can handle?

S> My MAIL folder presently stands at 9.56 GB (10,269,755,860 bytes)
S> TB! still runs like clockwork, although the exit mailbox
S> compression can take ten minutes or more  ;-)

Is there a way to disable the "exit mailbox compression"? I use the
Compress All Mailbox function on a fairly regular basis. And by the
way, how many messages does 9.56 GB represent? I believe the last I
remember, Marck had somewhere around 280,000 messages. I don't think
there are *any* email clients that can handle this kind of volume.

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Re: Bat Running Slow

2003-01-17 Thread Dave Crocker 
Daniel,

Also try de-fragmenting the disk.  TB seems to produce significantly fragmented file.

d/

Friday, January 17, 2003, 4:58:00 AM, you wrote:
>> And it's the entire program running slow as well. It took several
>> minutes to open this reply.

DR> Have you tried restarting your system?  Also, look in the WINNT\TEMP
DR> directory to make sure it doesn't have too many files.  Also, look in
DR> user's temp directory to make sure you don't have too many files as
DR> well, which would be "c:\Documents and Settings\YOUR USERNAME\Local
DR> Settings\TEMP".  "Local Settings" is a hidden directory.

DR> Hope this helps.




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Re: Bat Running Slow

2003-01-17 Thread St - Musaic.Net 

> Is there an upper limite The Bat! can handle?

  Well, at least it can hold 2,5GB in more than hundred folders
  containing more than a total of 300.000 messages... ;)

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Re: Bat Running Slow

2003-01-17 Thread Michael Disabato 
Friday, January 17, 2003, 8:15:36 AM, Gerd scribbled:

GE> Did you enable Virus-Check by accident without having a plugin?
GE> Options, Virus checking, Check incoming mail

Nope. It's all unchecked there.

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Re: Bat Running Slow

2003-01-17 Thread Michael Disabato 
Friday, January 17, 2003, 6:58:00 AM, Daniel scribbled:
DR> Have you tried restarting your system?  Also, look in the WINNT\TEMP

Better than that. I wiped the C drive and re-installed Win2K. Thought
it might be a conflict with Outlook, which I need for work. I'm
beginning to think I have too many messages. My message directory is
over 300MB.

Is there an upper limite The Bat! can handle?

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Re: Bat Running Slow

2003-01-17 Thread Jonathan Angliss 
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On Friday, January 17, 2003, Lawrence Johnson wrote...

> Since I enabled the Account Option to Compress Folders on Exit,
> folder operation and receipt of mail has speeded up incredibly. The
> first time that Folders were compressed, the operation took about an
> hour. I don't know what actually happens when they are left
> uncompressed but it has been a joy for me ever since I enabled the
> compress option.

What is really happening is it is really deleting the mail, and
reindexing the files. When you tell TB to delete a file, it flags the
file as deleted in an index file (.tbi) and updates the display to
hide the 'deleted' mail. When you run the compress/purge (they do the
same thing), it takes the 'deleted' mails, and physically removes them
from the files, and reindexes what is there. I run it automatically on
close as well. I sometimes clean up my folders, and run it, and the
report often tells you how much space you saved, mine is often
anywhere from a few hundred KB, to a couple of hundred MB.

Select your Inbox for an account, and go to Folder - Browse Deleted
Messages. TB! has a copy of every mail you deleted/moved/copied since
your last purge/compress in there.

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Re: Bat Running Slow

2003-01-17 Thread Jonathan Angliss 
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On Friday, January 17, 2003, Eric Malaussena wrote...

JA>> The funny thing is... I have started getting similar symptoms
JA>> during the last couple of days. I had to kill TB completely
JA>> because it just 'stopped' dead. The same seems to keep happening
JA>> if I try to refilter my inbox, so chances are, I may just have a
JA>> corrupt index file.

> I had the same... I deleted all my .TBI files and started The Bat!
> again. Then all was ok.

Unfortunately I tried the same thing last night, and it didn't remedy
the situation, so I manually moved emails about until I had just 3
emails left in that folder, it was only then that the refilter would
not crash TB!, so I'm guessing I probably had a messed up mail in
there somewhere too.

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Re: Bat Running Slow

2003-01-17 Thread Gerd Ewald 
Hello Michael Disabato !

  
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 06:24:27 -0600 GMT your local time,
which was 17.01.2003, 13:24 (GMT+0100) where I live, you (Michael Disabato)
wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]:">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:


> Trend Micro PC-Cillian 2003 and there were no attachments.

> And it's the entire program running slow as well. It took several
> minutes to open this reply.

Did you enable Virus-Check by accident without having a plugin?
Options, Virus checking, Check incoming mail

This was an error a friend had with TB, which didn't download any
mail, slowed down the system etc. All because he de-installed the
virus plugin (AV-something) but didn't disabled that option

>>>  I'm running 1.52 on Win2K.

TF>> No, you are running 1.62 Christmas Edition. ;-)

> Just call me "fat fingers". :)

LOL :-)))

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Re: Bat Running Slow

2003-01-17 Thread Michael Disabato 
Thursday, January 16, 2003, 7:55:47 PM, Thomas scribbled:

TF> No, but my guess is that it has to do with another software. Let me
TF> guess. Which anti-virus program do you use, and how big where the
TF> attachments?

Trend Micro PC-Cillian 2003 and there were no attachments.

And it's the entire program running slow as well. It took several
minutes to open this reply.

>>  I'm running 1.52 on Win2K.

TF> No, you are running 1.62 Christmas Edition. ;-)

Just call me "fat fingers". :)

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Re: Bat Running Slow

2003-01-17 Thread Michael Disabato 
Thursday, January 16, 2003, 7:55:47 PM, Thomas scribbled:

TF> No, but my guess is that it has to do with another software. Let me
TF> guess. Which anti-virus program do you use, and how big where the
TF> attachments?

Trend Micro PC-Cillian 2003 and there were no attachments.

And it's the entire program running slow as well. It took several
minutes to open this reply.

>>  I'm running 1.52 on Win2K.

TF> No, you are running 1.62 Christmas Edition. ;-)

Just call me "fat fingers". :)

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Re: Bat Running Slow

2003-01-16 Thread Michael Stepuchev 
Good morning, Michael.
Sometimes, 17.01.2003, 05:55, you wrote us about 
  "Bat Running Slow":

MD> Yesterday, I noticed The Bat! running very slow. The messages are
MD> downloaded at normal speed, but processing through the filters is very
MD> slow. 10 messages take about 15 minutes!

Do you have Kaspersky Antivirus version 4 installed?
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Re: Bat Running Slow

2003-01-16 Thread Jonathan Angliss 
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On Thursday, January 16, 2003, Michael Disabato wrote...

> Yesterday, I noticed The Bat! running very slow. The messages are
> downloaded at normal speed, but processing through the filters is very
> slow. 10 messages take about 15 minutes!

> Has anyone seen this? I'm running 1.52 on Win2K.

  The funny thing is... I have started getting similar symptoms during
  the last couple of days. I had to kill TB completely because it just
  'stopped' dead. The same seems to keep happening if I try to
  refilter my inbox, so chances are, I may just have a corrupt index
  file.

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Re: Bat Running Slow

2003-01-16 Thread Thomas Fernandez 
Hello Michael,

On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 18:55:05 -0600 GMT (17/01/03, 07:55 +0700 GMT),
Michael Disabato wrote:

> Yesterday, I noticed The Bat! running very slow. The messages are
> downloaded at normal speed, but processing through the filters is very
> slow. 10 messages take about 15 minutes!

> Has anyone seen this?

No, but my guess is that it has to do with another software. Let me
guess. Which anti-virus program do you use, and how big where the
attachments?

>  I'm running 1.52 on Win2K.

No, you are running 1.62 Christmas Edition. ;-)

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