Re: Can ADSL be too fast for Bat!
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 19:01:54 +1100, John Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Just wondering if Bat! can handle high speed ADSL correctly. My standard >connect is 1.5 mb. I'm on a 1000 mbps LAN, no problem for v2.12.00. -- Happy flappin'! Corne' (aka Cory, The Batdmin) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can ADSL be too fast for Bat!
Thomas Fernandez writes: > Try checking every 2 minutes and see whether the problem persists. OK. > Can you this AV here? the numbers won't tell me anything, but they > might tell somebody something. I'll try to take a screen shot the next time I see it. -- Anthony __ Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can ADSL be too fast for Bat!
Hello Anthony, On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 20:32:30 +0100 GMT (27/02/2005, 02:32 +0700 GMT), Anthony G. Atkielski wrote: >> 30 seconds is very often. What do you need that for? AGA> It's not often at all on a 100 Mbps network. It costs nothing and I get AGA> my e-mail in nearly real time that way. Try checking every 2 minutes and see whether the problem persists. AGA> In any case, if the Connection Center is open when I try to click AGA> on anything in a folder into which new mail has been placed, I AGA> typically get an address violation fault. Can you this AV here? the numbers won't tell me anything, but they might tell somebody something. -- Cheers, Thomas. Er rannte ohne Beute davon, wurde aber von der Ueberwachungskamera noch festgehalten. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can ADSL be too fast for Bat!
John Phillips writes: > Do you have trouble with 3.01.33 losing mail on your lan? Offhand, I can't remember ever losing any e-mail ... even when TB has crashed. When I start it back up, the messages are all there. However, it faults with enormous frequency now (dozens of times a day, practically every other time I click on a folder), and it's pretty annoying, even though it rarely crashes the program and doesn't seem to lose any e-mail. I couldn't recommend the program to most other people with this kind of bug. > On our lan at work I had to revert back to 2.12 as version 30.1.33 > just kept losing mail (external mail through MDaemon). Internal mail > on the lan was no problem. Some of my accounts are on external servers, such as my ISP account and Gmail, but I don't recall losing any mail there, either. -- Anthony __ Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can ADSL be too fast for Bat!
Hi Anthony, On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, at 17:11:03 [GMT+0100] (which was Sun, 3:11:03 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: > (I have TB set to > check mail every 30 seconds on my LAN). Do you have trouble with 3.01.33 losing mail on your lan? On our lan at work I had to revert back to 2.12 as version 30.1.33 just kept losing mail (external mail through MDaemon). Internal mail on the lan was no problem. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Car sickness is the feeling you get when the monthly car payment is due.. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can ADSL be too fast for Bat!
Hi Thomas, On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, at 22:03:25 [GMT+0700] (which was Sun, 2:03:25 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: > In the office I also download mails from the LAN at 100MBps. No > corruption, even though the filtering (and status "importing messages" > is a couple of seconds slow. No problem. Just wondering if the alleged problem is caused by a connection to three accounts at the same time? -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 The best way to accelerate a Mac is at -32.2 ft/s. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can ADSL be too fast for Bat!
Hello Thomas, A reminder of what Thomas Fernandez on TBUDL typed on: 26 February 2005 at 16:06:34 GMT +0100 TF> even though the filtering (and status "importing messages" TF> is a couple of seconds slow. No problem I noticed that, the connection centre flashes up for a split second then I can sit and watch the unread message numbers clock up next to the folders. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 :gentoo: www.gentoo.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can ADSL be too fast for Bat!
Thomas Fernandez writes: > Over a hundred. I don't have that many, but TB still falls behind on the filters (as far as I can tell). > 30 seconds is very often. What do you need that for? It's not often at all on a 100 Mbps network. It costs nothing and I get my e-mail in nearly real time that way. > I check every ten minutes, but the first check in the morning > downloads 200-300 messages. It used to be a download into one account, > but now it is distributed over six accounts, so that is better. I check eight different accounts, but only one is checked every 30 seconds. The others are checked at intervals ranging up to 2 hours, since they receive far less traffic. In any case, if the Connection Center is open when I try to click on anything in a folder into which new mail has been placed, I typically get an address violation fault. -- Anthony __ Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can ADSL be too fast for Bat!
Hello Anthony, On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 17:11:03 +0100 GMT (26/02/2005, 23:11 +0700 GMT), Anthony G. Atkielski wrote: AGA> How many filters do you have? Over a hundred. AGA> I have lots of filters and sometimes the filtering is so slow that it's AGA> time to go out and check mail again before it finishes (I have TB set to AGA> check mail every 30 seconds on my LAN). 30 seconds is very often. What do you need that for? I check every ten minutes, but the first check in the morning downloads 200-300 messages. It used to be a download into one account, but now it is distributed over six accounts, so that is better. -- Cheers, Thomas. "How come we choose from just two people for president and 50 for Miss America?" Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can ADSL be too fast for Bat!
Thomas Fernandez writes: > In the office I also download mails from the LAN at 100MBps. No > corruption, even though the filtering (and status "importing messages" > is a couple of seconds slow. No problem. How many filters do you have? I have lots of filters and sometimes the filtering is so slow that it's time to go out and check mail again before it finishes (I have TB set to check mail every 30 seconds on my LAN). -- Anthony __ Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can ADSL be too fast for Bat!
On Saturday, February 26, 2005, 9:01:54, John Phillips wrote: > Just wondering, as the subject line says, can Bat! correctly handle ultra > high speed connections? Or just a coincidence? TB has no problems with fast connections. I'm used to downloading mail with over 200kB/s (or a few MB/s when getting it from the local POP3 server). TB is on the safe side though - it will not issue the delete command until the message is safely stored in the message base (TB first downloads to a temporary directory, and then moves the message to it's bases). This is why the deleting is always a few messages behind, and also why the messages that couldn't be stored in the corrupt message bases stayed on the server. -- < Jernej Simoncic ><><><><>< http://deepthought.ena.si/ > Usefulness is inversely proportional to reputation for being useful. -- Greenberg's First Law of Influence Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can ADSL be too fast for Bat!
Hello Tony, On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 11:00:16 + GMT (26/02/2005, 18:00 +0700 GMT), Tony Boom wrote: TB> Me too. I have my Bat running on the same PC as my mail server. The whole TB> process of collecting and sending is all but instantaneous with no TB> corruptions. In the office I also download mails from the LAN at 100MBps. No corruption, even though the filtering (and status "importing messages" is a couple of seconds slow. No problem. -- Cheers, Thomas. Eine Ratte schwaermt der anderen vor: 'Ach ja, diese Lerngesetze sind schon toll! Jedes Mal wenn ich diesen Hebel druecke, muss mir der Weisskittel Futter geben!' Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can ADSL be too fast for Bat!
On Sat, 26 Feb. 2005 19:01:54 +1100 GMT(26/02/2005, 08:01 + GMT), John Phillips wrote: 6JP> Just wondering if Bat! can handle high speed ADSL JP> correctly. My standard connect is 1.5 mb. I thought I had a similar problem, but have concluded that it was Norton AntiVirus unable to deal with connecting to more than one server at a time when any of them had more than a few messages to collect. -- Eric Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 -- Best regards, Ericmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can ADSL be too fast for Bat!
John Phillips writes: > Just wondering if Bat! can handle high speed ADSL correctly. My standard > connect is 1.5 mb. I connect to my own e-mail server on my LAN at speeds of 100 Mbps with no trouble. > I have noticed at times that all messages are downloaded (info from the > connection centre) and the message deletion from the server may be 10 or 15 > messages behind. However eventually the deletion catches up maybe half a > minute after the last message has been downloaded. I've noticed that I get very consistent faults in the program if I try to reference a file into which TB has placed new messages, if the connection center is still open and churning. Sometimes it takes several minutes for TB to finish up whatever it is doing, and any attempt to work with the affected folders in the meantime causes repetitive faults. The database seems to be unaffected, and I can usually just click past the exception message, but in some cases TB freezes and must be killed and restarted. > Just wondering, as the subject line says, can Bat! correctly handle ultra > high speed connections? "Ultra high speed" is billions of bits per second, not millions of bits. Megabit and even megabyte speeds are not generally a problem for today's computers. -- Anthony __ Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can ADSL be too fast for Bat!
Hello Alexander, A reminder of what Alexander S. Kunz on TBUDL typed on: 26 February 2005 at 09:17:09 GMT +0100 ASK> So I'd say - coincidence. Me too. I have my Bat running on the same PC as my mail server. The whole process of collecting and sending is all but instantaneous with no corruptions. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 :gentoo: www.gentoo.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can ADSL be too fast for Bat!
Hello John Phillips & everyone else, on 26-Feb-2005 at 09:01 you (John Phillips) wrote: > I have noticed at times that all messages are downloaded (info from the > connection centre) and the message deletion from the server may be 10 or 15 > messages behind. However eventually the deletion catches up maybe half a > minute after the last message has been downloaded. Thats not important, the commands will be executed by the POP3 server only after TB signs off with the QUIT command. > Just wondering, as the subject line says, can Bat! correctly handle ultra > high speed connections? Or just a coincidence? I've had TB running at work on a 5mbit leased line, and connected it to our Exchange server via IMAP on the 100mbit LAN and never experienced any problem. So I'd say - coincidence. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, when you do criticize him, you'll be a mile away and have his shoes. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html