Re: How to see the whole email on the screen
Hello Sam, On Sunday, January 31, 2021 you wrote: SB> Friday, January 29, 2021, 5:19:59 PM, Jack wrote: JSL>> Hello Maggie, JSL>> On Thursday, January 28, 2021 you wrote: MM>>> Hi Jack, MM>>> On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 11:48:52 AM you wrote: JSL I think I need someone to define the purpose of the cut mark because I thought JSL it was to automatically eliminate everything below the cut mark (including the JSL cut mark) when replying. MM>>> This was also my understanding. I wonder if the insertion of MM>>> another cut mark by the particular virus checker after the sig MM>>> prevents operation of the cut mark inserted by you in your MM>>> template from working as designed? JSL>> Thank you Maggie, I never even noticed that the antivirus was inserting it's own JSL>> cut mark. Unfortunately, after spending a lot of time, but finally finding how to JSL>> eliminate it, my cut mark still doesn't work. I've sent myself messages both JSL>> from TB and from my Gmail account and each time when I reply to them the cut JSL>> mark and anything below it remains in the reply. So I have to abandon the quest JSL>> for a solution until well, I don't know when. SB> If it helps any, when I reply to your email, the cut mark appears to work as expected. It does help, Thanks. It seems I was confusing myself (easily done these days) and didn't realize that the sig I was looking at in my previous reply to Maggie was the sig which is in my TB reply template. If my cut mark really didn't work, I would have seen two identical sigs. -- Regards, Jack Central Alabama USA The Bat! E-Mail Client by Ritlabs version 6.0.12 Windows 10 Home Build 9200 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to see the whole email on the screen
Friday, January 29, 2021, 5:19:59 PM, Jack wrote: JSL> Hello Maggie, JSL> On Thursday, January 28, 2021 you wrote: MM>> Hi Jack, MM>> On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 11:48:52 AM you wrote: JSL>>> I think I need someone to define the purpose of the cut mark because I thought JSL>>> it was to automatically eliminate everything below the cut mark (including the JSL>>> cut mark) when replying. MM>> This was also my understanding. I wonder if the insertion of MM>> another cut mark by the particular virus checker after the sig MM>> prevents operation of the cut mark inserted by you in your MM>> template from working as designed? JSL> Thank you Maggie, I never even noticed that the antivirus was inserting it's own JSL> cut mark. Unfortunately, after spending a lot of time, but finally finding how to JSL> eliminate it, my cut mark still doesn't work. I've sent myself messages both JSL> from TB and from my Gmail account and each time when I reply to them the cut JSL> mark and anything below it remains in the reply. So I have to abandon the quest JSL> for a solution until well, I don't know when. If it helps any, when I reply to your email, the cut mark appears to work as expected. -- Sam mailto:norma...@mynormallife.com Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to see the whole email on the screen
Hello Maggie, On Thursday, January 28, 2021 you wrote: MM> Hi Jack, MM> On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 11:48:52 AM you wrote: JSL>> I think I need someone to define the purpose of the cut mark because I thought JSL>> it was to automatically eliminate everything below the cut mark (including the JSL>> cut mark) when replying. MM> This was also my understanding. I wonder if the insertion of MM> another cut mark by the particular virus checker after the sig MM> prevents operation of the cut mark inserted by you in your MM> template from working as designed? Thank you Maggie, I never even noticed that the antivirus was inserting it's own cut mark. Unfortunately, after spending a lot of time, but finally finding how to eliminate it, my cut mark still doesn't work. I've sent myself messages both from TB and from my Gmail account and each time when I reply to them the cut mark and anything below it remains in the reply. So I have to abandon the quest for a solution until well, I don't know when. -- Regards, Jack Central Alabama USA The Bat! E-Mail Client by Ritlabs version 6.0.12 Windows 10 Home Build 9200 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to see the whole email on the screen
Hi Thomas, On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 7:59:11 PM you wrote: TF> Hello Maggie, TF> On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 13:53:30 -0500 GMT (29-Jan-21, 1:53 +0700 GMT), TF> Maggie Meister wrote: JSL>>> I think I need someone to define the purpose of the cut mark because I thought JSL>>> it was to automatically eliminate everything below the cut mark (including the JSL>>> cut mark) when replying. >> This was also my understanding. I wonder if the insertion of >> another cut mark by the particular virus checker after the sig >> prevents operation of the cut mark inserted by you in your >> template from working as designed? TF> I don't know whether it's the anti-virus in their case, but TF> it may also be the ISP. In my case, GMX will cut all trailing TF> blanks. I don't know why, maybe they wwant to save bandwidth... TF> -- TF> Cheers, TF> Thomas. When I look at Stuart's message from a couple of days ago, his sig looks perfect at my end. There is no mention of an ad for whatever virus program which normally has a cut line. The same for Acheton's message. Jack's shows the derangement and there is a double cut line in his sig. However, like yours, Mike's doesn't seem to have a double cut line, but his sig is showing as broken here as well. A mystery! -- Regards, Maggie Running Windows 7, and emailing with The Bat! 7.0.0.56 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to see the whole email on the screen
Hello Maggie, On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 13:53:30 -0500 GMT (29-Jan-21, 1:53 +0700 GMT), Maggie Meister wrote: JSL>> I think I need someone to define the purpose of the cut mark because I thought JSL>> it was to automatically eliminate everything below the cut mark (including the JSL>> cut mark) when replying. > This was also my understanding. I wonder if the insertion of > another cut mark by the particular virus checker after the sig > prevents operation of the cut mark inserted by you in your > template from working as designed? I don't know whether it's the anti-virus in their case, but it may also be the ISP. In my case, GMX will cut all trailing blanks. I don't know why, maybe they wwant to save bandwidth... -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.3.3 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to see the whole email on the screen
Hi Jack, On Thursday, January 28, 2021 at 11:48:52 AM you wrote: JSL> I think I need someone to define the purpose of the cut mark because I thought JSL> it was to automatically eliminate everything below the cut mark (including the JSL> cut mark) when replying. This was also my understanding. I wonder if the insertion of another cut mark by the particular virus checker after the sig prevents operation of the cut mark inserted by you in your template from working as designed? -- Regards, Maggie Running Windows 7, and emailing with The Bat! 7.0.0.56 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to see the whole email on the screen
Hello Mike, On Thursday, January 28, 2021 you wrote: ML> ML> Hello Jack, ML> ML> Wednesday, January 27, 2021, 10:04:54 PM, you wrote: ML> (Snipped) ML> By the way, your cut-mark doesn't seem to be working. It seems to be lacking the trailing space. It should be DASH-DASH-SPACE. A>>> Good luck. A>>> -- Regards, Jack Central Alabama USA A>>> The Bat! E-Mail Client by Ritlabs version 6.0.12 Windows 10 Home Build 9200 A>>> A>>> A>>> Thanks for that, both my new and reply templates for the folder have A>>> DASH-DASH-SPACE so I'm not sure what is going on? A>>> A>>> -- A>>> Warmest regards, A>>> A>>> Acheton A>>> Created using TheBat! 9.3.2 on Windows 10 ML> >> Hmmm, very interesting. When I reply to this (your) email, I'm replying with >> your email quoted in the my reply. Your entire sig appears, cut mark, >> Warmest >> regards etc. If I "select" (highlight) your cut mark, the highlight stops >> after >> the two dashes. It does not stop after the trailing dash as you would expect >> indicating that the trailing space is not there. This is what prompted me to >> remark on it in the first place. ML> >> However, since this email also contains my original email to you, my sig is >> displayed also which means mine didn't work either. If I try to select >> (highlight) my cut mark. It will highlight the two dashes but not the >> trailing >> space. Actually since my sig appears in the first place it would indicate >> that >> my cut mark doesn't work also. And I *know* my cut mark is dash, dash, >> space. >> It would seem that TB is stripping the trailing space on our cut marks >> thereby >> rendering them inoperative. Or I've totally misconstrued the function of >> the cut >> marks in the first place. ML> >> -- >> Regards, >> Jack >> Central Alabama USA ML> >> The Bat! E-Mail Client by Ritlabs version 6.0.12 >> Windows 10 Home Build 9200 ML> ML> ML> Concerning your sig file, I had the same problem it wasn't being ML> recognised the two dashes were there but the space was missing. I was ML> creating my sig files in HTML mode which failed I found using plain text to ML> create the sig all was well again. It always used to work in HTML but a ML> while back it stopped working. I just selected all my sig file and then ML> selected plain text and it seemed to work. Hope this helps Jack. ML> ML> Regards ML> ML> Mike ML> ML> ML> ML> ML> -- ML> Catch ya later, ML> Mike ML> ML> E-mail: ML> mike.lums...@predator-fishing.org.uk ML> All Mail Created With:- The Bat! Version 9.3.3 (64-bit) ML> Professional Edition www.ritlabs.com/ ML> Mail Filtered By: ML> AntiSpamSniper For The Bat! Version 3.3.4.6 X64 ML> Operating System:- Windows 10. 0 Build 19042 X64 ML> System Secured By: ESET Smart Security Premium 14.0.22.0 ML> ML> Cookie: ML> ML> Once upon a time there was a baby bat, but it grew and grew and grew and ML> grew with success! I think I need someone to define the purpose of the cut mark because I thought it was to automatically eliminate everything below the cut mark (including the cut mark) when replying. When I clicked REPLY to this email Mike, your cut mark and everything below it is visible. For what it's worth, my editor is automatically set to Plain Text(MicroEd) whenever I communicate with this list. Somewhere in the distant past it was recommended to use Plain Text(MicroEd) for this list. -- Regards, Jack Central Alabama USA The Bat! E-Mail Client by Ritlabs version 6.0.12 Windows 10 Home Build 9200 -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to see the whole email on the screen
Title: Re: How to see the whole email on the screen Hello Jack, Wednesday, January 27, 2021, 10:04:54 PM, you wrote: (Snipped) >>> By the way, your cut-mark doesn't seem to be working. It seems to be lacking the >>> trailing space. It should be DASH-DASH-SPACE. A>> >>> Good luck. A>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> Jack >>> Central Alabama USA A>> >>> The Bat! E-Mail Client by Ritlabs version 6.0.12 >>> Windows 10 Home Build 9200 A>> A>> A>> Thanks for that, both my new and reply templates for the folder have A>> DASH-DASH-SPACE so I'm not sure what is going on? A>> A>> -- A>> Warmest regards, A>> A>> Acheton A>> Created using TheBat! 9.3.2 on Windows 10 > Hmmm, very interesting. When I reply to this (your) email, I'm replying with > your email quoted in the my reply. Your entire sig appears, cut mark, Warmest > regards etc. If I "select" (highlight) your cut mark, the highlight stops after > the two dashes. It does not stop after the trailing dash as you would expect > indicating that the trailing space is not there. This is what prompted me to > remark on it in the first place. > However, since this email also contains my original email to you, my sig is > displayed also which means mine didn't work either. If I try to select > (highlight) my cut mark. It will highlight the two dashes but not the trailing > space. Actually since my sig appears in the first place it would indicate that > my cut mark doesn't work also. And I *know* my cut mark is dash, dash, space. > It would seem that TB is stripping the trailing space on our cut marks thereby > rendering them inoperative. Or I've totally misconstrued the function of the cut > marks in the first place. > -- > Regards, > Jack > Central Alabama USA > The Bat! E-Mail Client by Ritlabs version 6.0.12 > Windows 10 Home Build 9200 Concerning your sig file, I had the same problem it wasn't being recognised the two dashes were there but the space was missing. I was creating my sig files in HTML mode which failed I found using plain text to create the sig all was well again. It always used to work in HTML but a while back it stopped working. I just selected all my sig file and then selected plain text and it seemed to work. Hope this helps Jack. Regards Mike -- Catch ya later, Mike E-mail: mike.lums...@predator-fishing.org.uk All Mail Created With:- The Bat! Version 9.3.3 (64-bit) Professional Edition www.ritlabs.com/ Mail Filtered By: AntiSpamSniper For The Bat! Version 3.3.4.6 X64 Operating System:- Windows 10. 0 Build 19042 X64 System Secured By: ESET Smart Security Premium 14.0.22.0 Cookie: Once upon a time there was a baby bat, but it grew and grew and grew and grew with success! Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to see the whole email on the screen
Hello Acheton, On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 13:05:48 + GMT (27-Jan-21, 20:05 +0700 GMT), Acheton wrote: > Thanks for the reply, it appears that this only happens when I am replying to > an email which is wider than the screen, at which points it goes outside of > the bounds of the window - which makes some sense. Difficult to reply to you, as you are top-posting. No, it does not make sense, as it means you cannot read it properly. And over here, it does not have (even when I leave your mails as HTML), all lines are properly wrapped. So I am a bit surprised that it happens to you. Brgds, Thomas. > Saturday, January 16, 2021, 2:26:27 AM, you wrote: > Hello Acheton, > On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 13:35:42 + GMT (15-Jan-21, 20:35 +0700 GMT), > Acheton wrote: > I wondered whether anyone could help. When I am composing emails in TB I have > a problem whereby as I reach the edge of the screen (HTML) the earlier text > disappears off the screen. How can I set TB to show the whole of the email > during composition? > Let me try to write a very long line because I have never experienced what > you are describing. I usually use HTML/Plaintext but this time I am using > HTML only. Maybe that makes the difference - no, it doesn't. At the end of > the screen, the text continues here on the next line. Let me try to change > the size of the window - nope, it still breaks (softbreak) the lines at the > end of the window and continues in the next line. Resizing to full size > changes changes the softbreaks as desired. > In short, I cannot duplicate your problem. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.3.2.3 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to see the whole email on the screen
Hello Acheton, On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 you wrote: A> A> Hi Jack, A> A> Friday, January 15, 2021, 4:46:56 PM, you wrote: >> Hello Acheton, A> >> On Friday, January 15, 2021 you wrote: A> A>>> A>>> Hi all, A>>> A>>> I wondered whether anyone could help. When I am composing emails in TB I A>>> have a problem whereby as I reach the edge of the screen (HTML) the earlier A>>> text disappears off the screen. How can I set TB to show the whole of the email during composition? A> >> Not sure if this will help because I'm using an older version of TB but if >> you >> go to OPTIONS-PREFERENCES-EDITOR PREFERENCES, then in the box that appears >> is >> "Wrap text at xx characters". A> >> By the way, your cut-mark doesn't seem to be working. It seems to be >> lacking the >> trailing space. It should be DASH-DASH-SPACE. A> >> Good luck. A> >> -- >> Regards, >> Jack >> Central Alabama USA A> >> The Bat! E-Mail Client by Ritlabs version 6.0.12 >> Windows 10 Home Build 9200 A> A> A> Thanks for that, both my new and reply templates for the folder have A> DASH-DASH-SPACE so I'm not sure what is going on? A> A> -- A> Warmest regards, A> A> Acheton A> Created using TheBat! 9.3.2 on Windows 10 Hmmm, very interesting. When I reply to this (your) email, I'm replying with your email quoted in the my reply. Your entire sig appears, cut mark, Warmest regards etc. If I "select" (highlight) your cut mark, the highlight stops after the two dashes. It does not stop after the trailing dash as you would expect indicating that the trailing space is not there. This is what prompted me to remark on it in the first place. However, since this email also contains my original email to you, my sig is displayed also which means mine didn't work either. If I try to select (highlight) my cut mark. It will highlight the two dashes but not the trailing space. Actually since my sig appears in the first place it would indicate that my cut mark doesn't work also. And I *know* my cut mark is dash, dash, space. It would seem that TB is stripping the trailing space on our cut marks thereby rendering them inoperative. Or I've totally misconstrued the function of the cut marks in the first place. -- Regards, Jack Central Alabama USA The Bat! E-Mail Client by Ritlabs version 6.0.12 Windows 10 Home Build 9200 -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to see the whole email on the screen
Hi Jack, Friday, January 15, 2021, 4:46:56 PM, you wrote: > Hello Acheton, > On Friday, January 15, 2021 you wrote: A>> A>> Hi all, A>> A>> I wondered whether anyone could help. When I am composing emails in TB I A>> have a problem whereby as I reach the edge of the screen (HTML) the earlier A>> text disappears off the screen. How can I set TB to show the whole of the email during composition? > Not sure if this will help because I'm using an older version of TB but if you > go to OPTIONS-PREFERENCES-EDITOR PREFERENCES, then in the box that appears is > "Wrap text at xx characters". > By the way, your cut-mark doesn't seem to be working. It seems to be lacking > the > trailing space. It should be DASH-DASH-SPACE. > Good luck. > -- > Regards, > Jack > Central Alabama USA > The Bat! E-Mail Client by Ritlabs version 6.0.12 > Windows 10 Home Build 9200 Thanks for that, both my new and reply templates for the folder have DASH-DASH-SPACE so I'm not sure what is going on? -- Warmest regards, Acheton Created using TheBat! 9.3.2 on Windows 10 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to see the whole email on the screen
Hi Thomas, Thanks for the reply, it appears that this only happens when I am replying to an email which is wider than the screen, at which points it goes outside of the bounds of the window - which makes some sense. thanks Ach Saturday, January 16, 2021, 2:26:27 AM, you wrote: Hello Acheton, On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 13:35:42 + GMT (15-Jan-21, 20:35 +0700 GMT), Acheton wrote: I wondered whether anyone could help. When I am composing emails in TB I have a problem whereby as I reach the edge of the screen (HTML) the earlier text disappears off the screen. How can I set TB to show the whole of the email during composition? Let me try to write a very long line because I have never experienced what you are describing. I usually use HTML/Plaintext but this time I am using HTML only. Maybe that makes the difference - no, it doesn't. At the end of the screen, the text continues here on the next line. Let me try to change the size of the window - nope, it still breaks (softbreak) the lines at the end of the window and continues in the next line. Resizing to full size changes changes the softbreaks as desired. In short, I cannot duplicate your problem. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.3.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 -- Warmest regards, Acheton Created using TheBat! 9.3.2 on Windows 10 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to see the whole email on the screen
Title: Re: How to see the whole email on the screen Hello Acheton, On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 13:35:42 + GMT (15-Jan-21, 20:35 +0700 GMT), Acheton wrote: I wondered whether anyone could help. When I am composing emails in TB I have a problem whereby as I reach the edge of the screen (HTML) the earlier text disappears off the screen. How can I set TB to show the whole of the email during composition? Let me try to write a very long line because I have never experienced what you are describing. I usually use HTML/Plaintext but this time I am using HTML only. Maybe that makes the difference - no, it doesn't. At the end of the screen, the text continues here on the next line. Let me try to change the size of the window - nope, it still breaks (softbreak) the lines at the end of the window and continues in the next line. Resizing to full size changes changes the softbreaks as desired. In short, I cannot duplicate your problem. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! Version 9.3.2 (64-bit) under Windows 10.0 Build 19041 Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to see the whole email on the screen
Hello Acheton, On Friday, January 15, 2021 you wrote: A> A> Hi all, A> A> I wondered whether anyone could help. When I am composing emails in TB I A> have a problem whereby as I reach the edge of the screen (HTML) the earlier A> text disappears off the screen. How can I set TB to show the whole of the email during composition? Not sure if this will help because I'm using an older version of TB but if you go to OPTIONS-PREFERENCES-EDITOR PREFERENCES, then in the box that appears is "Wrap text at xx characters". By the way, your cut-mark doesn't seem to be working. It seems to be lacking the trailing space. It should be DASH-DASH-SPACE. Good luck. -- Regards, Jack Central Alabama USA The Bat! E-Mail Client by Ritlabs version 6.0.12 Windows 10 Home Build 9200 -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
