Re: TB's Threading Peculiarities

2000-01-21 Thread Rob

Hello all,

on Thu, 20 Jan 2000, at 08:15:32 local time (GMT -0800), Nick wrote:

 Still, I'll see a thread where the first message is the original, as it
 should be, then most, but not all, of the replies are listed in
 descending order with the little + sign next to each one.

the replies to the original message, that themselves have been replied to,
also get a + of course ...

 Other combinations I've tried will list the replies _without_ the +
 signs, but then I'll find the original message stuck somewhere in the
 middle of the thread, which doesn't make sense to me, and at times will
 make it difficult to follow the thread.

i've seen that too ; i think it happens when the system time on someone's
PC is not 'correct' ...


 What combinations of viewing preferences would allow TB to simply list
 the original message as the first message in a thread, followed in
 chronological order by all the replies, and without the little + signs
 necessitating all the extra mouse clicks required to read the thread?
 What have others found that works for them?

i'm using :
view - display - all messages
view - sort by - creation time
view - view threads by - subject

works fine. only when someone's PC clock is off, his replies will all be at
the top (running early) or bottom (running late) of the thread.

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Re: TB's Threading Peculiarities

2000-01-21 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo Rob,

On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:49:59 +0100 GMT (21.01.2000, 22:49 +0800 GMT),
Rob wrote:

R i'm using :
R view - display - all messages
R view - sort by - creation time
R view - view threads by - subject

R works fine. only when someone's PC clock is off, his replies will all be at
R the top (running early) or bottom (running late) of the thread.

Have you tried:
view - sort by - received time
instead?

I don't use threads, but read messages the way they come in. I might
change my habit when TB doesn't show the full subject for each message
but only for the first one in thread; they tend to go too far to the
right.

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Re: TB's Threading Peculiarities

2000-01-21 Thread Angel

On Thursday, January 20, 2000 at 09:29:16 ,Nick scribbled:

NA Is that sort by subject Angel, or view threads by subject? I wonder what
NA the difference in the two would be?

View / View Threads By / Subject
View / Sort By / Creation Time
These are the two settings I use.

I also have the "Created" bar on the editor set so that the most recent email shows 
first.
For the most part, the emails are in the order showing the *most recent* first 
according to subject,
and both the originating email AND the Re:'s are listed appropriately. I only have to
click once to expand the entire thread.

I don't know what the literal difference is or what the technical explanation would 
be, I
can only  describe it as Sort=match subject line exactly and View= Match like-words in 
subject
line. Anyone know the technical reasons? :D


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Re: TB's Threading Peculiarities

2000-01-21 Thread Nick Andriash

On Friday, January 21, 2000, 7:19:52 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

 Have you tried:
 view - sort by - received time
 instead?

Well Thomas, I'm going to give that a try, and see if it alleviates the
problem with having the original message strangely stuck in the middle
of a thread. If it's the originating computer system time that is at
fault, changing to "Received time", which I presume is the time my
Server get's the message, will correct the anomaly of having the
originating message somewhere other than at the beginning of the thread.

Thanks for your help.


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Re: TB's Threading Peculiarities

2000-01-21 Thread Angel

On Friday, January 21, 2000 at 07:19:52 ,Thomas scribbled:

TF Have you tried:
TF view - sort by - received time
TF instead?
The only reason I have it sort by creation time is because when I tried it by Received 
time, for
some reason the emails in the thread seem to jump all over the place as to which one 
came
first etc. It takes some servers forever to receive things, which accounts for someone
asking me: "have you gotten this yet?" and I haven't, yet they emailed it hours ago.
AFAICT, the creation time keeps Re:'s in more order, then I don't have to be clicking 
all over
to figure out who wrote what when. :D I've tried every combo possible and this is what
works for me :D


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Re: TB's Threading Peculiarities

2000-01-21 Thread Angel

On Friday, January 21, 2000 at 12:33:29 , I scribbled and *need an eraser* :

A It takes some servers forever to receive things,
Make that "Receive/Deliver"
Sorry 'bout that :D

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Re: TB's Threading Peculiarities

2000-01-21 Thread Angel

On Friday, January 21, 2000 at 08:22:40 ,Rob scribbled:

R oh yeah, and then click the 'creation time' column header so the arrow
R points up (ascending ?) ;-)
I have mine pointing down, so that the most recent message is displayed first :D That 
way
when I open the thread, all the recent messages are right there "in my face" so to 
speak.
Just a personal preference...not saying it's for everyone...It's just easier for me 
this
way :D

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Re: TB's Threading Peculiarities

2000-01-21 Thread Nick Andriash

On Friday, January 21, 2000, 8:22:40 AM, Rob wrote:

 oh yeah, and then click the 'creation time' column header so the arrow
 points up (ascending ?) ;-)

Yes, this works for me... keeps the most recent reply in the thread, at
the bottom, so it keeps the conversation in some intelligible order. I
can read the initial message, and all the replies are now listed in
chronological order. Thanks. :o)


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Re: TB's Threading Peculiarities

2000-01-21 Thread Jast

Morning Nick Andriash,

 If it's the originating computer system time that is at fault, changing to
 "Received time", which I presume is the time my Server get's the message,
 will correct the anomaly of having the originating message somewhere other
 than at the beginning of the thread.
 
 Actually,  the  received  time is the time you downloaded the message. But in
 effect  the  sorting  comes  pretty close to the time the server gets them (I
 think because it downloads in just that sequence)

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Re: TB's Threading Peculiarities

2000-01-20 Thread Nick Andriash

On Thursday, January 20, 2000, 9:19:11 AM, Angel wrote:

 I view by "Subject". so far so good..it works for me :D

Is that sort by subject Angel, or view threads by subject? I wonder what
the difference in the two would be?


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