Re: Undeliverable mail to list
Hello Sudip, On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 06:46:51 +0545 GMT (18/07/02, 08:01 +0700 GMT), Sudip Pokhrel wrote: JA I think somebody subbed to the list has a bad email JA now, and it is bouncing... I got about 17 of them about 30 mins ago. SP Having a same problem here. With me, the mailer deamon sends the same SP two messages saying they could not be delivered. Interestingly, I think every poster is getting such a message, including myself. I usually write back to the postmaster, asking him to send bounces to the return-path and not the From address. I copy the TBUDL moderators in and ask them to take the member off the list until his postmaster has figured out the RFC's. I think I'm going to write a QT for that... As I said, the internet grows faster than people can be trained. People with no clue become postmasters and set up their systems wrong. Expect to see more of this. :-( -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. You can observe a lot just by watchin'. (Yogi Berra) Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Undeliverable mail to list
Hello Thomas, On Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 8:57:29 AM you [TF] wrote (at least in part): TF asking him to send bounces to the return-path and not the From TF address. In fact the final 'I can't deliver the mail' serv did sent it to 'Return-Path'. Have a look at the attached original messages. Look into their source. Some intermediate MTA added a second Return-Path above the original one :- TF People with no clue become postmasters and set up their systems wrong. Nevertheless true :-( What? What the hell is a RFC? I _do_ already use NAV! ... *without further comment* TF Expect to see more of this. :-( ACK. And no filter in the world will catch the result of their criminal lack of knowledge :-/ I'd vote for a new X-Header in bounces: X-I-am-a-stupid-postmaster-without-knowledge-about-what-I-am-doing: Yes *Going to disemploy because it seems everybody can do my job. Not better but cheaper.* -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) If I want your opinion, I'll read your entrails. Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Undeliverable mail to list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi DG, @18 July 2002, 08:38 -0400 (13:38 UK time) DG Raftery Sr. [DRS] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Peter Palmreuther: Peter What? What the hell is a RFC? DRS Request For Comment. DRS See http://www.rfc-editor.org/ . This will give you little insight. See - humour doesn't cross borders so well, does it? Peter is an expert in such things and was mocking the so-called system administrators at Vizzavi. Hence the quotation marks around the original question - he was saying that *they* were asking that question - not him. ... But I'm sure you've helped someone here who was afraid to ask after Peter's sarcastic jibe ;-) (with which I have no problem). - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9NrsAOeQkq5KdzaARAi8xAKDHkYcoK3ZipBa270vcDUImuBQ6PgCg5qw4 DSF8t67ltVoR/u7AB1r7VDg= =eC+3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Undeliverable mail to list
Hello Marck, On Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 2:56:31 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): MDP he was saying that *they* were asking that question Except the fact I did not meant Postmaster@Vizzavi with that quote (at least it ain't really a quote, more a free expression of what some people in a technical function already asked ... maybe not exactly this words, but similar) everything else is correct :-) @DG: I've already downloaded the RFC-archive months ago, because I was to lazy going every time online and search web based if I needed the references :-))) Maybe I should have written Q: What? [] A: Arrrggghh for better understanding :- -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) For a good time, call (415) 642-9483 Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Undeliverable mail to list
Hello Peter, On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:38:10 +0200 GMT (18/07/02, 14:38 +0700 GMT), Peter Palmreuther wrote: PP What? What the hell is a RFC? I _do_ already use NAV! Assuming your approval, I have copied this into my cookie file, giving due credit. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Sex is hereditary. If your parents never had it, chances are you won't either. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Undeliverable mail to list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, Andy Morrison wrote... Hello list Can anybody explain what's going on here? I've probably made some stupid mistake, but I have just received the following error message for each of my posts to the list last week. It's not you... I think somebody subbed to the list has a bad email now, and it is bouncing... I got about 17 of them about 30 mins ago. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPTXdGCuD6BT4/R9zEQIvdQCfVS/TZZ9orlrC7Eh1kMprFg4mRTkAoP67 Jwc+do2aTq1OZzbfIoayE6NT =t7Tn -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Undeliverable mail to list
Hi Jonathan, On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:09:39 -0500 GMT (Jul 18, 02:54 my local time), you [JA] wrote: JA I think somebody subbed to the list has a bad email JA now, and it is bouncing... I got about 17 of them about 30 mins ago. Having a same problem here. With me, the mailer deamon sends the same two messages saying they could not be delivered. Interestingly, checking the attached original message I see that one of the messages that keeps bouncing is one that I SENT TO YOU EARLIER !! Take a look: ,- [ Begin Quote ] - | Hi Jonathan, | | On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:02:19 -0500 GMT (Jul 12, 23:32 my time), you | [JA] wrote: | | JA In some places, the second ALT key (labeled ALT GR I think in the | JA UK if my memory serves me correctly, has been over a year or so) | JA doesn't actually do anything. | | You're kidding me ! Now the obvious question is why its there then? `- [ End Quote ] - -- Cheers, Sudip For PM:- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sudip Pokhrel Kathmandu-NP PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185 http://pgpkeys.mit.edu -- Sys Info -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 (Build 2600 ) H/W: Pentium IV 1.4 Ghz|256MB RAM|40GB HDD [IE 5.0, Opera 6.03 (default)] Never buy a car you can't push Current Ver: 1.61 FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
