Re: Virtual folder properties - Count in upper level

[MFPA]

Hi


On Sunday 19 May 2019 at 6:27:58 PM, in
, MAU wrote:-

> Just tried it. When a folder has some sub-folders,
> the counts Unread
> an Total in the parent folder will show in
> parenthesis the
> corresponding counts of the sub-folders, 

I see that in ordinary folders.



> except VFs
> if they don't have
> the option "Count in upper level" selected.  

No wonder I can't see any difference. I only have three virtual
folders and their parent is "< Root Folder >", so there is no "upper 
level".

Thank you for clearing that up for me.

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Re: Virtual folder properties - Count in upper level

[MAU]

Hello MFPA,

> For virtual folders, in the properties dialog the Filter tab has a 
> checkbox called "Count in upper level". What does this do? I can't see
> what effect it has, although I don't know what to look for.

Just tried it. When a folder has some sub-folders, the counts Unread
an Total in the parent folder will show in parenthesis the
corresponding counts of the sub-folders, except VFs if they don't have
the option "Count in upper level" selected.

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Re: Virtual Folder query

[Tom]

I guess I just remove the existing filters?

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Re: Virtual Folder query

[MAU]

Hello Tom,

 How can I get rid of the existing virtual folders. If I delete them,
 the original email is also deleted.

No, if you delete a Virtual Folder no messages will be delete. They will 
remain in the real folders where they are. VFs don't hold any 
messages, they just 'display' messages actually residing in one or more 
real folders.

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Re: Virtual Folder query

[Tom]

Thursday, February 19, 2009, 9:02:26 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Tom,

 How can I get rid of the existing virtual folders. If I delete them,
 the original email is also deleted.

 No, if you delete a Virtual Folder no messages will be delete. They will
 remain in the real folders where they are. VFs don't hold any 
 messages, they just 'display' messages actually residing in one or more
 real folders.

Ok, but if I delete a message in a virtual folder then the original
message gets also deleted, right? In this respect they VF operate
different to copies in secondary folders.

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Re: Virtual Folder query

[MAU]

Hello Tom,

 How can I get rid of the existing virtual folders. If I delete them,
 the original email is also deleted.

 No, if you delete a Virtual Folder no messages will be delete. They will
 remain in the real folders where they are. VFs don't hold any 
 messages, they just 'display' messages actually residing in one or more
 real folders.

 Ok, but if I delete a message in a virtual folder then the original
 message gets also deleted, right? In this respect they VF operate
 different to copies in secondary folders.

Yes, if you delete a message, the original will also be deleted. VFs 
hold 'links' to messages in other folder(s) not copies of the messages.


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Re: Virtual Folder or Common Virtual Folder

[MAU]

Hello Marten,


 Virtual Folder or Common Virtual Folder

 The difference is...???

There is no functional difference. Normal VFs are created within an
account and that's how they will appear in the folder tree (and mail
directory in disk). Common VFs are created _outside_ any account.

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Re: Virtual Folder or Common Virtual Folder

[Marten Gallagher]

 Virtual Folder or Common Virtual Folder

 Normal VFs are created within an
 Common VFs are created _outside_ any account.

Thank you, understood.

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Re: Virtual folder bug?

[MAU]

Hello Larry,

 I have a virtual folder se tup to read 3 accounts.  Occasionally I
 see a message in one of the actual accounts but not in the virtual. 
 However when I exit and then go back into TB it shows up in the virtual 
 folder.

 Is this a bug or known issue?

I don't know if if this is related to your problem, but this 'old' bug

https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4722

has recently been reported as fixed in Beta 3.72.02.

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Re: Virtual folder filtered by hours

[Andre Wichartz]

Hello rich,

Friday, March 10, 2006, 2:16:58 AM, you wrote:

 I did look at the properties|filters screen but alas, no. There is no
 AGE option there.  :(

Select Use Filter, click on Any message, select age. Should be
pretty straightforward from there...


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Re: Virtual folder filtered by hours

[Stephane Bouvard [ML]]

Hi,

,- - [ Le vendredi 10 mars 2006 vers 2:16 rich gregory écrivait: ] - -
|
rg In v2.12 is there a way to tell a NEW MAIL virtual folder to
rg display only those mssgs that are less than 72 hours old?

 I did look at the properties|filters screen but alas, no. There is no
 AGE option there.  :(

Check advanced filter settings then add an age filter condition.

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Re: Virtual folder strangeness

[Chris]

rich gregory @ 1/27/2006 10:32:04 AM
Virtual folder strangeness mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 What does store state between sessions mean?

It means that the contents of the virtual folder (i.e., those messages
that matched the filter) will be remembered between invocations of The
Bat!

Without it, The Bat! will rescan the search folders each time it
starts up. This way, it will always have the latest messages. However,
it may be slower. If you do choose to preserve the state between
sessions, you can always force a rescan by pressing ESC.

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Re: Virtual folder strange behavior when deleting message

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Jarle,

  A reminder of what Jarle H. Knudsen typed on:
  May 1, 2005 at 12:46:54 GMT +0200


JHK Can anyone offer any help or advice on how to remedy the situation or
JHK as to why The Bat! behaves like this?

I cannot confirm this specific behavior but when I select a message to
delete the message is not deleted and it moves to the next message.
Reselecting and deleting a second time does delete the message. This
does not happen to every message so something is not consistent. Any
confirmations.


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Re: Virtual folder strange behavior when deleting message

[Robin Anson]

Stuart

On Sun 1 May 2005, 23:39:33 +1000, Stuart Cuddy wrote:
 I cannot confirm this specific behavior but when I select a message to
 delete the message is not deleted and it moves to the next message.
 Reselecting and deleting a second time does delete the message. This
 does not happen to every message so something is not consistent. Any
 confirmations.

I think you will find that the first time you delete the message it
moves to the trash folder, but the conditions that cause it to remain in
the virtual folder still apply, so it is still there. Second time you
delete it removes it from the trash folder and it then disappears from
the virtual folder.

If you have the folder displayed as part of your virtual folder view,
this will be apparent.

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Re: Virtual folder - Source Folder

[Michael Geyer]

Hi Joe and list,

On Friday, September 10, 2004 at 11:58:53 GMT -0400 (which was 17:58
where I live) Joe wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable
points on the subject of Virtual folder -  Source Folder:



 Hello,
  Is there a way to tell what folder the message is really in when you
  use a virtual folder?

Yes. You can select a view mode for the VF in which you include the
column folder.

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Re: Virtual Folder Problem

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They do not move by the laws of physics, but by their will. :-) Or
mood. They change their path lines without reason, behaving
unexpectedly, like women. :)

Mist(er)y...

That's fine.

So... we always have to expect unexpected, including TB atoms.

I don't know if this can help a bit, but is good to make a gaze break,
sometimes, watching the full Moon, and sipping the soft mystery, slowly,
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Re: Virtual Folder Problem

[Jan Rifkinson]

On Sunday, August 29, 2004 it appears that Alexander
wrote the following in regards to Virtual Folder Problem:

A I'm trying to set up a Virtual Folder that contains all mail correspondence
A *from* and *to* the members of a specific address book group (with threaded
A view, would be very handy to watch all kinds of private conversations with
A these people). Sounds easy... [big snip]

A I then selected my inbox and my sent folder to be watched, and after
A clicking OK it takes a moment until I get an out of memory error. After
A that, the selected folders are de-selected again (which may be a security
A measure, in case the VF doesn't work?). When I select the same folders
A again, I sometimes get the same error again, sometimes TB becomes
A completely unresponsive.

A Now, I have some 3500 mails in my sent folder, but: doing the exact same
A thing with a VF that is looking for mails from or to *one* specific
A person/mail address only works without problems. So, I assume it
A is a bug [/snip]

Hi Alexander.

 I tried your experiment but set it up a little differently.

 However in this case I don't think it makes a difference because I
 encountered a similar problem as the one you describe.

 For the record, this was my set up:

 recipient = a
 sender = a
 subject = b
 message = b

 selected folders: in  known in several accounts

 As soon as I clicked ok after setting up all the parameters, TB!
 froze. The next time I tried it, it shuddered but then completed
 the task. But it was not an easy process for TB! and I had it
 searching folders that had only a few messages in them. So my
 conclusion is that there probably is a problem somewhere.

 Now I'm using a beta version so I'm going to take the liberty of
 cross posting this on the beta list. Hope you don't mind.

 HTH

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Re: Virtual folder question

[Dean]

 Hello MAU,

 Thursday, April 29, 2004, 4:06:47 AM, you wrote:
  :

M VFs don't hold any messages (not even copies), just pointers to
M messages in other non-virtual folders.

Thanks for the explanation.   I had moved all my account  filter back to the
original Spam folder and low and behold, pointers started appearing.
Appreciate your assist :)
 

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Re: Virtual folder question

[MAU]

Hello Dean,

 I admit I am experimenting with this virtual folder concept so maybe I
 don't understand that one is not supposed to send new messages to that
 type of folder? Could someone explain what I'm doing wrong or if
 virtual folders are just for storage of old messages?

VFs don't hold any messages (not even copies), just pointers to
messages in other non-virtual folders.

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Re: Virtual folder question

[Samson]

that's exactly how i understand.

actually i found you cannot  use search dialog to find anything in VF. the result is 
always empty.
this should be a working feature, for example, i have a filter for all flagged 
messages, then i
want to search among them for the mail with subject text urgent.

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VFs don't hold any messages (not even copies), just pointers to
messages in other non-virtual folders.


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Re: Virtual folder question

[MAU]

Hello Samson,

 actually i found you cannot use search dialog to find anything in
 VF. the result is always empty. this should be a working feature, for
 example, i have a filter for all flagged messages, then i want to
 search among them for the mail with subject text urgent.

You can do that on the VF itself. Select the VF folder properties and, on
the Filter tab, aside of Flagged select use filter and enter Subject
is urgent.

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Re: Virtual folder

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On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:40:29 +0200, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

ACM Hehe. But remember that the tickers text properties is
ACM configurable. You can choose whatever font and size to use, even a
ACM variable width font. ;-))

KE But i don't think that's the problem. The thing is that because the
KE text in the ticker seems to be scrolling, my screen reader goes nuts
KE when it tries to read it... Well perhaps not nuts but it presents me
KE with some difficulties, and i couldn't hide the ticker until i by
KE mistake right clicked and got a poput menu with the option to hide it,
KE and it seemed to screw up my screen... Well, nuff whining, i don't use
KE it now but i'll check out the configuration possibilities.

:-) Yeah, I understand you perfectly now. Thomas clarified things for
me. When you said that you were blind I thought you were exaggerating,
something that is done in my parts a lot by those who can see but wear
thick lenses. g Now I realize that you meant it.

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Re: Virtual folder

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hallo Krister,

On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 17:37:01 +0200 GMT (16/09/2000, 23:37 +0800 GMT),
Krister Ekstrom wrote:

MDP Aha!  If you double click on the ticker you get a folder browse window
MDP open  up.  It  may just look like a message view. If it does, then use
MDP the  view menu to enable the Message list. See? It's a folder view ...

KE Too bad though that the ticker is hardly usable for us blind folks, so
KE i just hide it. If there was a way to read the ticker, (is it a window
KE with scrolling text or what?)

Yes it is.

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Re: Virtual folder

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On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 17:37:01 +0200, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

MDP Aha!  If you double click on the ticker you get a folder browse window
MDP open  up.  It  may just look like a message view. If it does, then use
MDP the  view menu to enable the Message list. See? It's a folder view ...

KE Too bad though that the ticker is hardly usable for us blind folks,
KE so i just hide it. If there was a way to read the ticker, (is it a
KE window with scrolling text or what?) i'd consider using it, but as
KE it is now i'm glad i can hide it.

Hehe. But remember that the tickers text properties is configurable. You
can choose whatever font and size to use, even a variable width font.
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Re: Virtual folder

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hallo Allie,

On Sun, 17 Sep 2000 07:26:16 -0500 GMT (17/09/2000, 20:26 +0800 GMT),
A . Curtis Martin wrote:

KE Too bad though that the ticker is hardly usable for us blind folks,
KE so i just hide it. If there was a way to read the ticker, (is it a
KE window with scrolling text or what?) i'd consider using it, but as
KE it is now i'm glad i can hide it.

ACM Hehe. But remember that the tickers text properties is configurable. You
ACM can choose whatever font and size to use, even a variable width font.
ACM ;-))

This doesn't help the screen reading software. It moves. It cannot be
used by blind folks. Never mind the font.

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Re: Virtual folder

[Marck D. Pearlstone]

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Hi Vladimir,

On 17 September 2000 at 01:52:23 GMT +0200 (which was 00:52 where I
live) Vladimir Mincev wrote and made these points on the subject
of "Virtual folder":

VM How can I (when Virtual folder is opened) all new incoming mail
VM send directly in Virtual folder not to Mail Ticker?

Yes  -  it's a problem. The virtual folder only contains a snapshot of
the  ticker  contents at the moment it was summoned. I usually Ctrl-U,
Esc,  hotkey  (Mark  current  unread,  close  ticker folder, re-open
ticker folder whenever there has been more mail incoming.

Right now, there's no other way.

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Re: Virtual Folder Refresh?

[Marck D. Pearlstone]

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Hi Chuck,

On 10 August 2000 at 17:14:39 GMT -0500 (which was 23:14 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject
of "Virtual Folder Refresh?":

CM I'm still relatively new to using the mail ticker's "virtual folder"
CM to read my mail ... is there no way to refresh the virtual folder as
CM new mail arrives, short of shutting it down and reopening it?

Sadly  -  no.  Another lament of mine about the ticker virtual view is
that  colour  filtrations  don't show up. Still, I wouldn't be without
it.

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Re: Virtual Folder Refresh?

[Chuck Mattsen]

On Thursday, August 10, 2000 at 6:44 PM or thereabouts, Marck D.
Pearlstone wrote the following about Virtual Folder Refresh?:

CM I'm still relatively new to using the mail ticker's "virtual
CM folder" to read my mail ... is there no way to refresh the
CM virtual folder as new mail arrives, short of shutting it down and
CM reopening it?

Marck Sadly - no. Another lament of mine about the ticker virtual
Marck view is that colour filtrations don't show up. Still, I
Marck wouldn't be without it.

Well, I didn't use it until recently (when the settings for position,
font, etc., finally were "sticky" ... before that it was too much of a
pain resetting my preferences every time), but I'm hooked on it.  I
rarely open the main program window any longer.

It would be nice if the ticker, and the associated virtual folder,
were fleshed out a bit, yes.  (And while I'm waxing hopeful on the
subject, a little cosmetic ability to change the background and font
colors, as well as the font itself, would be nice.)  I assume this has
already all been added to the official "wish" list.

Chuck
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