Re: Vitual Folders

2004-04-19 Thread Edgar van Dijk
Hello MAU,

On Sunday, April 18, 2004, 12:25:31 AM, you wrote:

M Hello Adam,

 erm... forgive me if I seem ignorant, but what are virtual folders,
 and how can I use them to enrich my life?

M I use VFs in different ways, one of them has been already explained by
M Perry Nelson. That is, to show messages pending a reply from me.

So When I understand correctly It's like the views in Lotes
Notes?

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Re: Vitual Folders

2004-04-19 Thread MAU
Hello Edgar,

M I use VFs in different ways, one of them has been already explained by
M Perry Nelson. That is, to show messages pending a reply from me.
 
 So When I understand correctly It's like the views in Lotes
 Notes?

I don't know, I never used Lotus Notes.

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Re: Vitual Folders

2004-04-19 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello MAU,

Monday, April 19, 2004, 4:40:47 PM, you wrote:
MAU I don't know, I never used Lotus Notes.

Consider yourself extremely lucky. I administer some Lotus Domino
servers. Good for groupware, utter failure for e-mail.


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Re: Vitual Folders

2004-04-19 Thread MAU
Hello Leif,

MAU I don't know, I never used Lotus Notes.
 
 Consider yourself extremely lucky.

No luck involved, just determination ;-)

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Re: Vitual Folders

2004-04-18 Thread Adam Clarke
Hi

On 18 April 2004 at 02:46 Peter Ouwehand said:

AC I completely misunderstood what the Message Source
AC filter was for - I assumed it was to do with where the message
AC originated. Thinking about it logically though, why have that if
AC you've already got a Sender filter?

 Well, you asked about VF-filtering on something in a msg (header).

 At the moment, I don't understand what you mean with 'Sender filer'

Sorry, that was a rhetorical question based on my (false) assumption
that Message Source is where the message originated.  If that was the
case, it would be redundant because there is an option to filter on
Sender.  Your previous reply answered my query perfectly - many
thanks. Thanks too to Miguel and Allie who took the trouble to reply.

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Re: Vitual Folders

2004-04-17 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Rich,

@17-Apr-2004, 01:11 -0400 (17-Apr 06:11 UK time) rich gregory [RG]
in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

AC Seems to work OK, but thenI hadn't noticed a problem with the
AC previous version. I found one trash folder in one of my
AC accounts that hadn't been set to clear old messages, clicked
AC the relevant boxes and exited TB. When I launched TB again, the
AC old messages were gone.

RG That feature has NEVER worked for me on any revision of TB! I've
RG ever used.

RG I've tried several times to beg for help in this forum and had
RG plenty of replies all telling me to set my folder properties
RG just so (which I have already done).

And your account properties? Unless you are set up to Compress on
exit in Options, it won't happen automatically.

You'd have to purge and compress manually (or use folder
maintenance) to make it happen.

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Re: Vitual Folders

2004-04-17 Thread Perry Nelson
Hi Adam,

Friday, April 16, 2004, 7:56:15 PM, you wrote:

AC what are virtual folders, and how can I use them to enrich my life?

  For what it's worth, you asked the question I was hoping someone would
  ask, particularly of those who had been beta testing this version. I
  knew in theory what a virtual folder was, because of my experience
  with the Mail Ticker, but I wasn't clear about how I might use them.
  Thanks to your post and the few replies it got, I've now created one
  of my own -- for reply needed messages.

  Here's what I did, in case it might prove useful to you. I created the
  new folder and filtered for the color I've assigned to those messages
  to which I want to reply later. Then I chose to have it run against
  all folders.

  The part I didn't get initially was that when you choose filter and
  then BLOCK, you are prompted with SENDER and then a small white square
  out to the side. Since that wasn't what I wanted, it didn't seem too
  helpful. However I eventually discovered that if you click on SENDER
  you'll see UNDER IT the various other things you can use to filter on.
  In my case, I chose colour.  I then set it to the color for reply
  needed messages and that did the trick.

  So there is one use of the virtual folder.  I'd hope others would
  describe how they are using this feature as I just might want to copy
  their example.  That's the way I've learned many of the things I use
  in TB.

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Re:: Vitual Folders

2004-04-17 Thread Perry Nelson
Hi Marten,

Saturday, April 17, 2004, 5:05:54 PM, you wrote:

MG Do I take it, then, that this 'virtual folder' holds a
MG 'pseduo-duplicate' of a message marked in some way (colour e.g) and
MG that you can treat it as the real message and the effect is as if
MG you were doing it to the actual message?

  That's correct, at least as I understand it.

  You can group messages into the virtual folder by any filter you
  choose. They'll appear there, though they will remain actually stored
  in the folder where they resided previously, as they do when displayed
  in the Mail Ticker folder.

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Re: Vitual Folders

2004-04-17 Thread MAU
Hello Adam,

 erm... forgive me if I seem ignorant, but what are virtual folders,
 and how can I use them to enrich my life?

I use VFs in different ways, one of them has been already explained by
Perry Nelson. That is, to show messages pending a reply from me.

I also use VFs to see some threads. I usually sort messages to Contact
specific folders (i.e. messages To and From Joe Smith get sorted in the
same folder). Now, there are times that a third or fourth person
(initially in CC) does reply to me or Joe's message and the
'conversation' is the between 3 or 4 or even more persons. But because
of sorting, the messages end up in several different folders. So, I have
created a Thread VF looking for a certain Subject and this way I can
see the whole thread no matter in which folder the messages are actually
stored. If I want to see a different thread I just have to change the
Subject the VF is looking for.

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Re: Vitual Folders

2004-04-17 Thread Adam Clarke
Hi

On 17 April 2004 at 22:31 Perry Nelson said:

 You can group messages into the virtual folder by any filter you
   choose. 

One thing that seems to be missing in the filters for virtual folders
is you can't filter on a string.  I use POPFile to classify my mail
and after it was explained what virtual folders are (thanks all those
who replied) I thought I could set-up a VF for each of POPFile's
buckets. When I started looking into it I realized that you can't
filter on POPFile's classification header.

I know I could work around this, for example assigning a colour group
to each bucket and filtering on that or by using POPFile's subject
modification facility.  I think, however, that being able to search
for a string in any of the headers or the body would be useful.

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Re: Vitual Folders

2004-04-17 Thread Allie Martin
Adam Clarke, [AC] wrote:

AC One thing that seems to be missing in the filters for virtual
AC folders is you can't filter on a string. I use POPFile to classify
AC my mail and after it was explained what virtual folders are
AC (thanks all those who replied) I thought I could set-up a VF for
AC each of POPFile's buckets. When I started looking into it I
AC realized that you can't filter on POPFile's classification header.

In the virtual folder properties, go to the Filter tab and enable the
option switch 'Use Filter'. A new set of options appear where you can
filter on a string. The little tiny arrow beside each item indicates
that a drop down menu is there so that you can choose from different
things that would best suite your filtering.

You can add as many filtering strings as you like, using AND/OR etc.

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Re: Vitual Folders

2004-04-17 Thread MAU
Hello Adam,

 I think, however, that being able to search for a string in any of the
 headers or the body would be useful.

Search on Message source.

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Re: Vitual Folders

2004-04-17 Thread Adam Clarke
Hi

On 18 April 2004 at 01:35 Peter Ouwehand said:

 I just tried a VF looking for @fractalz.net in the msg source. It showed
 me 16 msgs.

Thanks for that.  I completely misunderstood what the Message Source
filter was for - I assumed it was to do with where the message
originated.  Thinking about it logically though, why have that if
you've already got a Sender filter?

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Re: Vitual Folders

2004-04-16 Thread Geoff Lane
On 17 April 2004, 06:11, rich gregory wrote:

 The trash will not delete messages older than X days for me even
 though I seem to have everything set right.  :(
~~~

I couldn't see which version you're using but in TB 1.62, I need to
purge the folder before the expired mail goes. (either select the
folder then from the Folder menu, choose Purge+Compress; or from the
Folder menu, choose Purge All Folders).

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