Re: opening HTML files error

2005-07-06 Thread MFPA

Hi

On Monday 4 July 2005 at 5:45:35 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Ben Allen wrote:


 Its called active procrastinating problem solving.

 ROTFL

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Re: opening HTML files error

2005-07-04 Thread MFPA

Hi

On Saturday 18 June 2005 at 5:24:14 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], MFPA wrote:

 Usually I have it configured to show HTML messages as plaintext
 only. Recent testing has shown identical behaviour whichever
 of the four options I select. The last few days I have it set to
 plaintext version and HTML but the only place in TB! I can find
 any evidence of the HTML part is in the source viewer.


And yet today I receive an HTML email and can view both the plain
and the HTML versions.

I go back and look at the previous ones and it now works for them,
too.

And the plaintext version and HTML,HTML version and
plaintext,plaintext only and HTML only settings now have an
effect.

Bizarre.

I like things that sort themselves out if left alone ;-)

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Re: opening HTML files error

2005-06-19 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Darrin  everyone else,

on 19-Jun-2005 at 03:55 you (Darrin) wrote:

 I am now once again a happy person :)

The question that remains is... how can anybody using the faulty IE
rendering engine/browser be a happy person? ;-)

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Re: opening HTML files error

2005-06-19 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Alexander,

Sunday, June 19, 2005, 9:34:32 AM, you wrote:

ASK The question that remains is... how can anybody using the faulty IE
ASK rendering engine/browser be a happy person?  

Do you mean we have to be unhappy people by definition?  :-)

I don't know about Darrin, but I simply do not have much choice:
Or I use IE, or I use NetCaptor.

Because I have to be able to run (Microsoft) applications on the sites of
insurance companies and/or bank professionally I cannot use (for those
purposes that is) non-IE based browsers. No Opera, no FireFox e.a., even if I
would have liked to use one of those...

Then why NetCaptor (and not one of the others)? Mainly because it is the only
one that supports PowerMarks (directly).

Now if you were in my position: would you prefer to use IE itself?  :-)

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Re: opening HTML files error

2005-06-19 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Mark Partous  everyone else,

on 19-Jun-2005 at 11:08 you (Mark Partous) wrote:

 Now if you were in my position: would you prefer to use IE itself?  :-)

I know what you mean. Its the same dilemma for me when I'm at work.
Therefore, I'm using Firefox wherever possible, and for the websites that
absolutely insist on IE (either because of ActiveX or some stupid script
that prevents me to access the site with anything but IE) I collected the
bookmarks in a folder and configured them to be opened explicitely with IE.

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Re: opening HTML files error

2005-06-19 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Alexander,

Sunday, June 19, 2005, 11:33:57 AM, you wrote:

ASK I collected the bookmarks in a folder and configured them
ASK to be opened explicitely with IE.

HOw do you do that?

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Re: opening HTML files error

2005-06-19 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Mark Partous  everyone else,

on 19-Jun-2005 at 11:41 you (Mark Partous) wrote:

ASK I collected the bookmarks in a folder and configured them
ASK to be opened explicitely with IE.

 HOw do you do that?

If you have a lot of shortcuts, the best would be to collect them in a
single HTML document (like a link collection).

Then create a shortcut to that HTML document and make sure that it is
opened with IE (in the open with... line) - you then follow the links.

I don't have that many sites, I simply call the start pages from a local
copy. :)

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Re: opening HTML files error

2005-06-19 Thread Darrin
Hello Alexander,

Sunday, June 19, 2005, 12:34:32 AM, you wrote:

 The question that remains is... how can anybody using the faulty IE
 rendering engine/browser be a happy person?  

Opera will probably always be my default browser. From time to time
when required to use IE I prefer Netcaptor over IE even though it is
just a shell. I have used Firefox. I just dont care for it. Im always
having problems with it. So for now, it is Opera and Netcaptor.

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Re: opening HTML files error

2005-06-19 Thread MFPA

Hi

On Saturday 18 June 2005 at 5:42:49 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Alexander S. Kunz
wrote:

 Hello MFPA  everyone else,

 on 17-Jun-2005 at 22:15 you (MFPA) wrote:

 I have the pane showing attachments but it does not contain the
 HTML attachment.

 Is it an HTML only message without a plaintext alternative maybe?

I can view plaintext but not even find the HTML version in TB!
apart from in the source viewer. See extracts below...

 Content-Type: Multipart/related;
   type=multipart/alternative;
   boundary=Boundary-00=_MHKEG6G0


[...]


 --Boundary-00=_MHKEG6G0
 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative;
   boundary=Boundary-00=_MHKEBHK0
 
 --Boundary-00=_MHKEBHK0
 Content-Type: Text/Plain;
   charset=iso-8859-1
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



[...]


 --Boundary-00=_MHKEBHK0
 Content-Type: Text/HTML;
   charset=iso-8859-1
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 HTMLHEAD
 META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3Dtext/html; charset=3Diso-8859-=
1
 META content=3DIncrediMail 1.0 name=3DGENERATOR
 !--IncrdiXMLRemarkStart



[...]


 /HTML
 --Boundary-00=_MHKEBHK0--
 --Boundary-00=_MHKEG6G0
 Content-Type: image/gif;
   name=09_left.gif
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64


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Re: opening HTML files error

2005-06-18 Thread MFPA

Hi

On Friday 17 June 2005 at 10:48:08 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Chris wrote:


 If the messages is embedded instead of attached, it may not should up
 on the attachment pane.

Dunno, but Outhouse Distress shows it as an attachment.

 Check your options under Options|Preferences|Viewer/Editor. Perhaps
 you have The Bat! configured not to show the HTML messages at all.

Usually I have it configured to show HTML messages as plaintext
only. Recent testing has shown identical behaviour whichever
of the four options I select. The last few days I have it set to
plaintext version and HTML but the only place in TB! I can find
any evidence of the HTML part is in the source viewer.

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Re: opening HTML files error

2005-06-18 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello MFPA  everyone else,

on 17-Jun-2005 at 22:15 you (MFPA) wrote:

 I have the pane showing attachments but it does not contain the
 HTML attachment.

Is it an HTML only message without a plaintext alternative maybe?

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Re: opening HTML files error

2005-06-18 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Darrin,

Saturday, June 18, 2005, 3:57:36 AM, you wrote:

D At least we can see the pattern now. Im going to mess with it a bit
D and see what I can do. Probably nothing, but I will try.
D Thanks for checking into more.

I don't know how much messing it took for you meanwhile, but I was
able to cure the problem, at least for my setup.

First of all, I installed newer versions of several browsers
(type IE-shell).

There was no problem with:

Maxthon (formerly MyIE)
Avant Browser
Flashpeak Slimbrowser

Crazy Browser still loaded FireFox

Perhaps re-installing Netcaptor could cure the problem?
Well, that was not the case, now Internet Explorer was launched and opened
the attached html-file.
Changed file-associations, but every time I associated HTML (tried other
extensions too) with NetCaptor, IE was launched and now without showing the
HTML file.

However, when saving the attached HTML-file and clicking on it in PowerDesk,
Netcaptor was launched and the HTML-file was shown.

Finally I looked at the advanced settings on the file-associations screen.
Looking at the open action for the HTML extension, this was what I saw:

C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe -nohome

That explained why te file wasn't shown (-nohome instead of %1)  (*)

I edited the NetCaptor action and copied it's content. I then tried to
paste that into the Open action, but that was refused because the file was
not found.

This is what I tried to paste:

F:\Program Files\NetCaptor\NetCaptor.exe %1

Do you see the difference with the line in the Open action?
Changing the above to:

F:\Program Files\NetCaptor\NetCaptor.exe %1

in both the Netcaptor and the Open action now has left me with Te Bat! no
longer providing me with a beep and error screen, but showing me the
HTML-file in NetCaptor as expected (just like it did some months ago).

I hope it works for you too!

(*) how on earth it was my Win98 Internet Explorer version (on the C-drive
(Win98 SE)) that was associated with HTML, instead of the more recent
version (on the F-drive (Windows 2000)), I don't know.
And I don't think I'm going to try to find out, considering how long it
took to solve the HTML Files error!  ;-)


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Re: opening HTML files error

2005-06-18 Thread Darrin
Hello Mark,

Saturday, June 18, 2005, 12:49:18 PM, you wrote:

 F:\Program Files\NetCaptor\NetCaptor.exe %1

 in both the Netcaptor and the Open action now has left me with Te Bat! no
 longer providing me with a beep and error screen, but showing me the
 HTML-file in NetCaptor as expected (just like it did some months ago).

 I hope it works for you too!

Thanks for taking the time to post the steps you took. I went ahead
and tried setting the association for HTML files for netcaptor again
and this time it worked. I get no error and everything opens fine. I
dont know what went right this time, but it works. I am now once again
a happy person :)

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Re: opening HTML files error

2005-06-17 Thread Mark Partous

Hello Alexander,

Thursday, June 16, 2005, 11:10:57 PM, you wrote:

ASK Hello Marten Gallagher  everyone else,

ASK on 16-Jun-2005 at 19:32 you (Marten Gallagher) wrote:

 Oh pooh I can't remember all I know is that I got an error message that
 said something about not being able to find the page or something. Sorry
 - that would have been helpful probably.

ASK Marten, I'd go and check the filetype associations and actions, as Mark
ASK Partous said in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have played with file associations for a while. Associating HTML files
with:

Opera: no problem
FireFox:   no problem
K-Meleon:  no problem
Netscape:  no problem
Slim Browser:  no error screen but page isn't loaded
IE:no problem
Crazy Browser: FireFox is loaded!??
MyIE:  error screen even though page is loaded
NetCaptor: error screen even though page is loaded

Not all of the above are recent versions.

I'm afraid this didn't help us very much.


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Re: opening HTML files error

2005-06-17 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Mark Partous  everyone else,

on 17-Jun-2005 at 18:11 you (Mark Partous) wrote:

 Slim Browser:  no error screen but page isn't loaded
 Crazy Browser: FireFox is loaded!??
 MyIE:  error screen even though page is loaded
 NetCaptor: error screen even though page is loaded

 Not all of the above are recent versions.

 I'm afraid this didn't help us very much.

All of the browsers that fail are wrappers for the IE engine (if I'm not
mistaken), so at least there's a pattern.

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Re: opening HTML files error

2005-06-17 Thread MFPA

Hi

On Thursday 16 June 2005 at 10:02:47 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Darrin wrote:

 Theres an attachment pane that shows all the attachments in my email.
 If its an HTML email the HTML attachment is there.

I have the pane showing attachments but it does not contain the
HTML attachment.

I just re-checked by looking at an html email from my sister that
contains 2 images. The images are in the attachment pane (and also
on separate tabs behind the PTV of the message) but no html
attachment is shown.

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Re: opening HTML files error

2005-06-17 Thread Chris

MFPA @ 2005-Jun-17 4:15:47 PM
opening HTML files error mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I just re-checked by looking at an html email from my sister that
 contains 2 images. The images are in the attachment pane (and also
 on separate tabs behind the PTV of the message) but no html
 attachment is shown.

If the messages is embedded instead of attached, it may not should up
on the attachment pane.

Check your options under Options|Preferences|Viewer/Editor. Perhaps
you have The Bat! configured not to show the HTML messages at all.

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Re: opening HTML files error

2005-06-17 Thread Darrin
Hello Mark,

Friday, June 17, 2005, 9:11:36 AM, you wrote:


 I'm afraid this didn't help us very much.

At least we can see the pattern now. Im going to mess with it a bit
and see what I can do. Probably nothing, but I will try.
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Re: opening HTML files error

2005-06-16 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marten,

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:03:55 +0100 GMT (16/06/2005, 17:03 +0700 GMT),
Marten Gallagher wrote:

MG Join me on a trip to bizzarroland!

Anytime. :-)

MG After I sent that message I received an email with an HTML attachment so I 
idly thought
MG let's click and check the error message...

MG ...anyone want to guess what happened...

MG ...it loaded the HTML page into FireFox!

What did the other message have in common that this message didn't
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Re: opening HTML files error

2005-06-16 Thread MFPA

Hi

On Wednesday 15 June 2005 at 1:01:12 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Darrin wrote:

   [...]when I open
   up an email that is html and I click on the html attachment to view
   it in my browser.

How/where do you do this in TB!?

If I open an HTML email in Outlook Express (option selected to
view all messages in plaintext) there is an HTML attachment I can
click to view in Firefox.

If I open the same email in TB! there is no such attachment.

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Re: opening HTML files error

2005-06-16 Thread Darrin
Hello MFPA,

Thursday, June 16, 2005, 1:14:00 PM, you wrote:

 How/where do you do this in TB!?

Theres an attachment pane that shows all the attachments in my email.
If its an HTML email the HTML attachment is there.

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Re: opening HTML files error

2005-06-16 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Marten Gallagher  everyone else,

on 16-Jun-2005 at 19:32 you (Marten Gallagher) wrote:

 Oh pooh I can't remember all I know is that I got an error message that
 said something about not being able to find the page or something. Sorry
 - that would have been helpful probably.

Marten, I'd go and check the filetype associations and actions, as Mark
Partous said in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: opening HTML files error

2005-06-15 Thread Andre Wichartz
Hello Darrin,

Wednesday, June 15, 2005, 2:01:12 PM, you wrote:

   I get an error that reads Cannot find specified file when I open
   up an email that is html and I click on the html attachment to view
   it in my browser. Even though the error shows up, I still can view
   the file in my browser just fine.

   Any ideas on whats going on?

The mail comes with pictures?


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Re: opening HTML files error

2005-06-15 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Darrin,

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 05:01:12 -0700 GMT (15/06/2005, 19:01 +0700 GMT),
Darrin wrote:

D   I get an error that reads Cannot find specified file when I open
D   up an email that is html and I click on the html attachment to view
D   it in my browser. Even though the error shows up, I still can view
D   the file in my browser just fine.

1.) What browser is that?

2.) Is the browser already open when you click on the message?

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Re: opening HTML files error

2005-06-15 Thread Darrin
Hello Andre,

Wednesday, June 15, 2005, 5:39:48 AM, you wrote:

 The mail comes with pictures?

I get the same results whether or not the html has images or not.

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Re: opening HTML files error

2005-06-15 Thread Darrin
Hello Thomas,

Wednesday, June 15, 2005, 5:55:50 AM, you wrote:

 1.) What browser is that?
Netcaptor Pro (IE based browser www.netcaptor.com)

 2.) Is the browser already open when you click on the message?
Ive tried it both ways with the browser open and closed.



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Re: opening HTML files error

2005-06-15 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Darrin,

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:06:14 -0700 GMT (15/06/2005, 20:06 +0700 GMT),
Darrin wrote:

 1.) What browser is that?
D Netcaptor Pro (IE based browser www.netcaptor.com)

If it's IE based, that answers my question.

 2.) Is the browser already open when you click on the message?
D Ive tried it both ways with the browser open and closed.

Damn. My theory was that the browser opens a home page upon launch,
and that page is a file on your disk which doesn't exist. But this
won't apply if the browser is already open.

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Re: opening HTML files error

2005-06-15 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Darrin  everyone else,

on 15-Jun-2005 at 14:01 you (Darrin) wrote:

 Any ideas on whats going on?

Maybe the message has some additional resource that is embedded in the
message body (as an extra MIME part). Is the HTML the *only* attachment
that the message(s) has/have?

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Re: opening HTML files error

2005-06-15 Thread Darrin
Hello Alexander,

Wednesday, June 15, 2005, 6:46:25 AM, you wrote:

 Maybe the message has some additional resource that is embedded in the
 message body (as an extra MIME part). Is the HTML the *only* attachment
 that the message(s) has/have?

Yes, the the HTML is the only attachment. Ive got a few people that
send me html mail and I get the same problem. Works fine with my Opera
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Re: opening HTML files error

2005-06-15 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Darrin  everyone else,

on 15-Jun-2005 at 15:52 you (Darrin) wrote:

 Maybe the message has some additional resource that is embedded in the
 message body (as an extra MIME part). Is the HTML the *only* attachment
 that the message(s) has/have?

 Yes, the the HTML is the only attachment. Ive got a few people that
 send me html mail and I get the same problem. Works fine with my Opera
 browser.

H. I have no further idea then, sorry. I only use Opera and have never
seen an error message like that.

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Re: opening HTML files error

2005-06-15 Thread Darrin
Hello Alexander,

Wednesday, June 15, 2005, 9:20:57 AM, you wrote:

 H. I have no further idea then, sorry. I only use Opera and have never
 seen an error message like that.

Opera is my primary browser as well but have used netcaptor from time
to time. Ill mess with it some more and see what I can come up with.
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Re: opening HTML files error

2005-06-15 Thread Darrin
Hello Marten,

Wednesday, June 15, 2005, 10:19:20 AM, you wrote:


 If it's any consolation - I assumed this was ordinary TB behaviour - I often 
 try clickinh
 on an HTML attachment and always get that message - I thought it must be the 
 security
 aspect refusing to open it but giving that obscure message.

Im curious if this is an IE behavior then. Do you use IE as your
default browser?

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Best regards,
 Darrin 
  


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