Re[2]: Attachments not deleted with messages

[Chris Wilson]

> Hello Chris,


>> I have thought my Attachments directory was huge, and I spotted
>> several .jpg files in it that should have been deleted when I deleted
>> the parent messages. I just did a test and sent a mail to myself with
>> an image attached. I deleted the message and then emptied the Trash
>> folder. The image has not been deleted from the Attachments folder,
>> even after closing and re-opening TB!  Tried this several times,
>> attachments not deleted...

> I think you should open a BT report at https://bt.ritlabs.com/



18 November 2013


Before I do so would someone storing messages in a separate directory
please see if they see the same? I thought it may be keeping a copy of
the attachment because *I* sent it, which would make sense as it
should also show in the sent mail folder, but I have also tried
deleting some messages from other people just sent to myself, with
attachments. The attachments are not deleted. I see a security issue
here, what if my wife finds these photos of my mistress, for example,
that I thought I'd deleted  et cetera, et cetera

The bind outgoing blah blah tick box makes no difference either, I am
not sure exactly what that's supposed to change.

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Re[2]: Attachments not showing in Edit Mail Message window

[Roger Phillips]

Hello Jarle,

Sunday, December 2, 2007, 1:04:45 PM, among other things, you wrote:

JHK>>> In what circumstances does this bug appear? Does it affect all
JHK>>> installations of the latest release?

>> Who  knows?   It would be helpful if you give your OS and other installation
>> details as part of your signature.

JHK> I stated this information in my original message:

My apologies.  From  habit I only checked below your signature and did not see
your info in the message body.

>>> The Bat! Home Edition 3.99.29
>>> Windows Vista Home Premium English

I have checked back through the TBBeta mail and cannot find any reference to
your  problem,  however if someone said it is due to be fixed in version 4.0
then  you  will  have  to  hope  it  appeatrs  soon!  We  have  not  had any
correspondence  from Maxim, the main developer, for about a month.

I suspect the problem may be related to Vista only.

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Re[2]: Attachments not showing in Edit Mail Message window

[Roger Phillips]

Hello Jarle,

Sunday, December 2, 2007, 1:53:34 AM, among other things, you wrote:

>>> The pane showing attached files is not displayed when I start a new
>>> message and attach a file. How can I fix this?

>> I asked this a few days ago. Was told it will be fixed in next
>> version.

JHK> In what circumstances does this bug appear? Does it affect all
JHK> installations of the latest release?
Who  knows?   It would be helpful if you give your OS and other installation
details as part of your signature.

I  have  so  far  not  had  a  problem  with this bug, my attachments appear
normally.

JHK> Will a downgrade to a previous version help? Are previous versions
JHK> available for download?
Probably, but I'm not sure when this bug appeared.

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Re[2]: Attachments

[Henri Maussang]

Hello Urban,


> Wednesday, April 18, 2007, Henri Maussang wrote:

>> The attachment  (video) is pretty big : 3.8 Mb. It stays in the Outbox
>> for ever.

> It stays in the outbox until it has been sent. Use View -> Show Connection
> Center to verify that it really is being sent.

Thank you for your help.
When I say "for ever" I mean it.
Actually 4 days !
The progress bar is complete (green) in few seconds, but the
connection Center stays on.
Any idea ? Could it be a security trick of Windows Vista ?

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Re[2]: Attachments

[Richard H. Stoddard]

Mary,

Thursday, May 12, 2005, 11:58:59 PM, you wrote:

MB> Each account has a separate Attachments folder. I've just looked in my
MB> TB! directory--the path is The Bat!/MAIL/m.bull/Attach, and they are
MB> all accessible, a separate file to each attachment, arranged
MB> numerically/alphabetically.

It is possible to store attachments from all accounts in a single
directory as well. I store all of mine in one, and my wife's in a
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Re[2]: Attachments

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello MAU,
Wednesday, January 19, 2005, 6:58:45 PM, you wrote:

M> - On Win Explorer select Tools/Folder Options/File types.
M> - On the list of file types select html
M> - On the frame for "Details for HTML extension" click on the Advance
M> button.
M> - When the "Edit File Type" dialog opens click on the "Change Icon"
M> button.
M> - On the "Change Icon" dialog enter the path for Internet Explorer
M> which, in my case, is C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
M> and graphically select the icon I want to use.

M> After that and after re-starting TB the html icon shows properly in TB.
M> I assume the same thing should work for PDF or any other file type.

Thanks, I will give it a try when I get back to work. I see it is
working as it should on my home computer.

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Re[2]: Attachments

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Andrew,
Wednesday, January 19, 2005, 2:17:58 PM, you wrote:

A> Do these types of documents show properly when on your desktop? HTML
A> and PDF icons show just fine in TB! on my machine. Do they open with
A> the proper program when double-clicked?

Yes the html and pdf extensions work fine in other places,just not in
The Bat!


A> Hold down the shift key while double-clicking the attachment or
A> Options - Preferences - Protection remove "*.*" from "Always display warning
A> about these files".

 Thanks. I see I can just add the extensions I want to open in the
list as well.


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Re[2]: Attachments not being deleted in Ver 2..01.3

[rich gregory]

j>> - encode attachments using MIME Base64
MP> a particular reason for this? (encode...)

It is the default, no?  (Reason enough?)


j>> - Keep attachment files Separately in a special directory
j>> ticked - Delete attached files when a message is deleted from Trash folder
MP> Why put them in a seperate directory.

Why not? Where else would they be and after all, doesn't it make it easier to
go thru the attachments?


j>> What now? Do I have settings wrong? Has the upgrade been in vain?
MP> Does it help if you use Folder / Maintenance / Compress?

Didn't help me. Coincidentally, Jon & I wrote about the same question on the
same day so I feel quite free to reply here!


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Re[2]: Attachments Separately or in Message Base?

[Doug Gannon]

Hello Mark,

Thanks for the information about pointers to attachments.  That makes
sense to me.  I'm going to try one account with attachments stored in
the message base and another with the same attachments in a separate
directory to see if there's a noticeable difference.

> If you store your attachments in a separate folder, as I do, then what
> gets stored with the message is a pointer to the attachment in the
> external folder. If you move the message to another account or folder
> the pointer doesn't change, so there's no problem there.

This did work for me.  When I moved a message with an attachment to
another account, I could open the attachment even though the
file was still located in the original account's directory.  However,
when I then deleted the message that I had moved, and emptied the
trash folder, the attachment did not get deleted from it's original
location.  And yes, both accounts were set up to remove attachments
when the message was deleted.

This isn't a big problem or anything, but it looks like I'd probably
want to keep messages in their original accounts if I decide to store
attachments in a separate directory.  I guess I'm just too lazy to
want to have to delete attachments manually. 

> I find that keeping my attachments separate does indeed make things
> faster, maybe because I'm accessing my email storage over a network
> rather than on my own machine. It's also better for my peace of mind -
> I've had a couple of corrupted message databases that I can directly
> link to embedded binary attachments.

You make an interesting point about corrupted message bases.  I wonder
how often that happens and how often it can be repaired.  I'll just
have to try it both ways and see which one feels more comfortable for
me.

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Re[2]: Attachments Separately or in Message Base?

[Doug Gannon]

Hi Allie,

First off, thanks for replying to my message.  I've been watching this
mailing list for a while, and it looks like one of the friendlier
lists out there.

> The only thing you need to be careful about is that if you receive
> very large attachments, then your message bases can become very
> large and TB! needs a lot of free space in which to manipulate these
> message bases especially when compressing/purging them etc., about
> twice the message base amount of free space I'm made to understand.

Thanks for pointing out to me about the free space needed for
compressing, etc.  I do receive some larger attachments (100-300k).  I
have plenty of space on my hard drive so this shouldn't be a problem.

I guess my real concern was that The Bat might slow down when having
to access a large message base.  I imagined clicking on a folder on
the left of the window only to have to wait for several seconds for
The Bat to read the contents in order to display the list of messages
on the right.  But then, maybe I'm not understanding how things work
in The Bat.

Do you think that a message base that has gotten large from
attachments, etc. would slow down The Bat?  I'd be interested in
anyone's thoughts on this.

Thanks again Allie for your response.

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Re[2]: Attachments aren't removed from 'attach' folder

[Salvador Esque]

Thursday, October 17, 2002, 10:27:19 AM, you wrote:

RW> Does "Account/properties/Files and folders/Delete attached files when
RW> message is deleted from Trash folder" help, not that I've tried it
RW> myself but may well do.

No, it doesn't help. Attachments still remain there...

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Re[2]: Attachments

[Spike]

Hello Tim Musson,

Tuesday, May 14, 2002, 5:58:58 PM, in a galaxy far, far away, Tim wrote:

Tim Musson> Hey Adam,

Tim Musson> My MUA believes you used (X-Mailer not set)
Tim Musson> to write the following on Tuesday, May 14, 2002 at 12:07:53 PM.


A>> How do you select many attachments to save?


Tim Musson> If you right click an attachment, you can choose to save all, then I
Tim Musson> think there is an option of saving some or all.

Since V1.6x, you can tag only the attachments you want
(CTL-Click) or tag the first one, and Shift-Click the last one
and it will select only the ones desired!  The right click the
tagged files and select save x attachments!

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Re[2]: Attachments' reminder

[Sergey Kovalyov]

Hello Peter,

I'm so sorry for my ISP - they add some new equipment to the existing
one, that's why I cannot connect to the List.

But Tuesday, February 12, 2002, 6:32:08 PM, you wrote:

PP> so forget my explanations, they wont lead to any success with your
PP> problem/question.

All I understood: the best solution for my problem (is it really a
problem?) is waiting for the time when this feature - checking the
weight of attachment - would be implemented, if ever.

OK. What I badly need now is a teacher of good meditation. I need some
relax. When we are relaxed we remember everything or almost everything
and we don't need any "reminders".

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Re[2]: Attachments' reminder

[Tim]

On Tuesday, 12 February 2002, Peter Palmreuther wrote:

SK>> So, if it is not yet possible in TB!, it is not possible in TB!.
SK>> What about external remedy?

PP> What about scheduled task in windows? Shouldn't be a big problem ...

PP> E.g.:
PP> 
PP> thebat.exe /MAIL;TO="[EMAIL PROTECTED]";SUBJECT="Hello
PP> World";TEXT="Nonsense;ATTACH="c:\test.txt";[QUEUE|SEND]
PP> 

I'm sorry. I can't understand how this works. Is "test.txt" doing the
actual testing of size? If so, what goes in "test.txt"?

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Re[2]: Attachments

[Raj]

Thomas,

On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, at 14:10:27 [GMT +0800] (which was 11:40 AM where I live) you
wrote:

TF> He could have decided to simply change his email client ...

TF> Sorry for stupid remark: could not resist!

:-)

I  too  felt  the  same. But did not want to post my thoughts/comments to the 
group. I
would possibly be swamped by hate mail from those who cannot/will not change and thank 
you
mails from those who did.

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Re[2]: Attachments

[Raj]

Marck,

On Thu, 30 Aug 2001, at 18:47:46 [GMT +0100] (which was 11:17 PM where I live) you
wrote:


MDP>> ... except that Raj has already said that the .att attachments
MDP>  ^^^ Make that "Dave" (sorry Raj).

You  are  not  100%  wrong. I did raise this point sometime back. And like I somebody 
said
most  of  the cases the attachment is rubbish. If its important then the sender 
reminds me
and & I use the tool from fentun.com.

There  is  still  a  problem with TB & RTF attachments though. One still needs to copy 
the
attachment  and  save  it  as  filenam.rtf  to be able to read it. I recollect the 
earlier
versions (maybe over a year back) did not have that problem.


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Re[2]: Attachments

[Dave Gorman]

Hello Marck,

Thursday, August 30, 2001, 11:03:16 AM, you wrote:

MDP> Their "Exchange" configuration uses a Micro$oft proprietary format for
MDP> attachment encoding. You have to ask the sender to modify the settings
MDP> for your address in their configuration.

MDP> There is an ancient utility called Fentun which can decode these. See
MDP> http://www.fentun.com/.

See, I knew *somebody* would have an answer :)

Thanks a lot for the info, Marck. I'll check it out!

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Re[2]: Attachments

[Vincent - D. Ertner]

Hi Co-Batties,



> I created a *new* folder specifically for TB! attachments
> and created a shortcut to it on my quick launch bar for
> ease of access. I simply created the new folder within "My
> Documents" will no problems. All attachments end up there.
> Under "Account Properties" / Files and Directories - check
> "Store attachments seperate from messages in special
> directory" then browse to the directory where your
> attachments folder is.
 
I have used this well known feature since 1.3x - now it
doesn't work anymore - ideas?

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Re[2]: %Attachments

[Raj]

Peter / Lars / Allie C Martin,

On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, at 16:00:15 [GMT +0200] (which was 7:30 PM where I live) you
wrote:

> you _HAVE TO_ change the focus _after_ adding the
PP> files _away from message body_ and _to message body_ (means: focus on e.g
PP> Subject and than back to message text, like Lars wrote)

Thanks  to  all  of  you  for  clarifying  the  issue.  One more learning about how 
macros
function.

A little disappointed though that I need to attach files before editing, as it my 
habit to
attach files after writing the mail. (logical)

Disappointed  because I had begun to expect TB to solve all e-mail (and personal) 
problems
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Re[2]: %Attachments

[Raj]

Peter,

On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, at 15:00:48 [GMT +0200] (which was 6:30 PM where I live) you
wrote:

PP> What's the syntax you're using the macro???
PP> Are you trying to attache several files with one macro call?

I just used %Attachments. And yes I tried attaching more than one file.

When   hit  reply  to  a mail and attach, NO files are shown. However in the case of 
New &
Forwarded messages the first file attached is shown.

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Re[2]: Attachments Deleted When Message Deleted?

[Tim Musson]

Hey Nick,

Monday, February 05, 2001, 2:11:07 PM, you wrote:

NA> Just so I understand correctly, are you saying that your received
NA> attachments are *not* being deleted when you delete the messages they
NA> arrived attached to?

That is the case.  I have "Delete attached files when msg is deleted
from trash folder" selected, but my attachments don't seem to ever be
deleted.  It might be an issue of also having all of the following
checked on the Trash folder properties:
Maximum number of stored messages is 50
Keep messages in the base for (days): 3
Remove old messages
Compress the folder

I seem to remember in this thread someone indicating that a purge may
not be what is meant in the "Delete attached files when msg is deleted
from trash folder" selection.  You may meed to manually "Empty" the
folder, or possibly even select the message in the trash folder and
delete it.  I have not spent much time with it, but will after I am
done moving into the new house...

==8 This is worrisome, because I think it imperative you have full control
NA> over your attachments, and if TB! is not going to delete as per the
NA> Options, then I start to worry about retaining some of the more
NA> questionable attachments sent to me. :o(

I manually delete any attachment that I think may be a virus (if NAV
doesn't get it first)...

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Re[2]: Attachments Deleted When Message Deleted?

[Tim Musson]

Hey Nick,

Thursday, February 01, 2001, 10:40:10 AM, you wrote:

JR>> Edit Account -> Files & Folders @ the bottom of the dialogue box
JR>> see: "Delete attached files when msg is deleted from trash
JR>> folder".

NA> Yes, thanks Jan... I do have that option checked. The only difference is
NA> that I have attachments stored in a separate Folder, so perhaps that
NA> deletion option only applies to attachments that are stored within message
NA> bodies. I will have to do some testing and find out, but what puzzles me,
NA> is that I've had this configuration since day one, and can never recall a
NA> case where attachments were left behind like they are now.

I have seen that from day 1 with TB. :-(  However, I leave the /attach
dir as the default (TBdir\MAIL\YourAccount\Attach) not c:\temp.  I
also have the above checked.


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Re[2]: Attachments in Moved messages

[Tony Owens]

On Sunday, February 04, 2001, at 2:58:56 PM, Nick Andriash wrote:



NA> On February 4, 2001, at 9:16:57 AM, Tony Owens Wrote:

TO>> Just tested this twice on my system and it seems to work exactly
TO>> as I'd expect (doesn't delete the attachment until the message is
TO>> deleted from the Trash folder).

NA> Yes, I must admit that when I specifically delete the message from the
NA> Trash folder, the attachment is deleted as well. However, if you use the
NA> menu item: Folder/Purge All Folders... which in fact "empties" the Trash
NA> Folder, or in a similar fashion you choose the option to "Empty trash on
NA> exit" which is basically the same thing, and then exit TB!, the
NA> attachments are not deleted.

Peculiar - My "Empty trash on exit" option works fine. I tested
it twice and both times it deleted the attachments. I didn't test
the Folder/Purge All Folders option.

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Re[2]: Attachments in Moved messages

[Tony Owens]

Nick,

On Sunday, February 04, 2001, at 11:06:52 AM, you wrote: 


NA> On February 4, 2001, at 5:30:56 AM, Tim Musson Wrote:

TM>> Also, I have been unable to get TB to delete the files in the /Attach
TM>> directory, even though I have "Delete attached files when a message is
TM>> deleted from Trash folder" selected in Account Properties | Files &
TM>> directories.  Any thoughts on this one?

NA> I have found the very same thing, and can only presume the feature is not
NA> working in 1.49c.


Just tested this twice on my system and it seems to work exactly
as I'd expect (doesn't delete the attachment until the message is
deleted from the Trash folder).


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Re[2]: Attachments Deleted When Message Deleted?

[Dave Gorman]

Hello Nick,

Thursday, February 01, 2001, 5:47:51 PM, you wrote:

MY>> If the attachment was a Word or Excel document wouldn't that application
MY>> store a copy in your %TEMP% folder before opening it?  In that case, it is
MY>> out of TB!'s control and knowledge.

NA> I sure hope not Mike. When an attachment comes in, I want it placed in the

(snip)

I think Mike's point is that if you open an MS Office document that was an
attachment, the Office app is going to put a copy of that document in the temp
directory.  TB! can't control what the Office app does with the file.



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Re[2]: attachments opening

[Oleg Zalyalov]

Hello, the Bat! list recipients,

Saturday, September 16, 2000, John Phillips wrote to Mario Fischer about
attachments opening:

MF>> Is there any way to -automatically- open attached ".msg"-files? We
MF>> receive lots of "undeliverable"-mails in our support area and it's very
MF>> annoying to open the message and double-click the ".msg"-file.
What do you mean by "automatically"?

MF>> I think this would be no problem, if the ".msg"-file is plain text.
MF>> Attached ".txt"-files can be opened..
Automatically? Or by tabs at bottom of the message window?

If  I  understood  right,  I  can  only  suggest  keyboard  shortcuts
,.

JP> I also have a problem in that I cannot read the .msg files.  What
JP> should be the correct file association?


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REGEDIT4

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.msg]
@="The Bat! message file"
"Content Type"="message/rfc822"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\The Bat! message file]
@="Internet E-mail Message"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\The Bat! message file\DefaultIcon]
@="C:\\Program Files\\The Bat!\\TheBat.EXE,7"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\The Bat! message file\shell]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\The Bat! message file\shell\open]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\The Bat! message file\shell\open\command]
@="\"C:\\Program Files\\The Bat!\\TheBat.EXE\" /nologo /o:\"%1\""
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Re[2]: Attachments

[Carsten Dreesbach]

Hello Thomas,

Monday, January 03, 2000, 1:37:43 PM, you wrote:

TF> Hallo Soth,

TF> On Mon, 3 Jan 2000 07:32:15 -0500 GMT (03.01.2000, 20:32 +0800 GMT),
TF> Soth wrote:

S>> I'm not sure if this has been brought up yet, I haven't been around for
S>> a while... but has anybody else had a problem where attachments aren't
S>> being stored in the email bodies for created emails?  Ie/ if I create
S>> and send an email with a small .jpg attached to it, I can look in my
S>> sent folder and naturally enough I'll be able to open that attachment
S>> from the sent email... as long as I don't move/delete the file that I
S>> attached.  If I do move/delete the file, then the attachment disappears
S>> from the sent email...

TF> Uncheck "Bind attachment only when sending mail" in
TF> Account/Properties/Files&Directories.  ;-)


Erm...  actually, I think the option he needs is "File attachments are
stored:"/"In message bodies" in the Files & Directories... But I could
be wrong, I'm fairly new to TB! myself, after all! ;]

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Re[2]: Attachments

[Travisimo!]

Sunday, January 02, 2000, 3:32:56 PM, Roel wrote:

> it means that (when it's ticked) attachments won't be added to the
> message untill it is actually being sent.
> If you create & send immediately, there's no difference in usage.
> however, if you start on a mail today, attach the file, keep it as
> draft, edit the file you attached tomorrow & send the mail then, the
> mail will have the edited version off the attachment, whereas if the
> box was unchecked, it would have got yesterdays version (before the
> last edit...)

Great, thanks!

Do you know if there's a way to apply the "keep attachments in message
body" setting to all old mail?  I would like to empty my Attach
directory, but I want the files to stay with the message bodies and it
didn't seem to work for old mail.

Thanks again,
Travis

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Re[2]: %ATTACHMENTS: doesnt show files attached

[tracer]

Tuesday, October 19, 1999

Hello Alexander,

Tuesday, Tuesday, October 19, 1999, you wrote:

Alexander> Hi there!

Alexander> On 18 Oct 99, at 17:40, tracer wrote
Alexander>     about "Re[2]: %ATTACHMENTS: doesnt show fi":

>> Anyway, I am fairly sure I can generate proper Thai with that DB font.
>> The switcher seems to produce different symbols etc so I think it means
>> that with that Thai mono font (ie one of the DB fonts I mislaid) it should
>> produce thai. One of my friends probably has it as he is in graphical
>> design but he just returned from Singapore with some new hardware and
>> his designing is better then his hardware knowledge (g)
>> he is good at it but misses the experience you only get from many
>> different messed up systems...

Alexander> 'Bout the Thai support. In theory, having in mind you say that 
Alexander> Thai is a 8-bit system (is it?), you have to do the following:
Alexander> 1. Find out, what is the default MIME charset for Thai and what 
Alexander> mapping it uses (well, anybody knows where OL stores the 
Alexander> encoding vectors? Eudora stores these in *.trn files, if I'm not 
Alexander> mistaken. If OL stores these in readable form and supports 
Alexander> Thai, you might be able to get it from there);
Alexander> 2. Update the X-Lat table for Thai (if needed) correspondingly;
Alexander> 3. For writing Thai, set up the encoding in the message editor 
Alexander> (or via templates) to the Thai default MIME set.
8 bit, BUT.
problems seems to be several characters having to be used  above and
below normal characters and what we as non thais may not mind, thais
tend to have fairly sensitive toes when things donot look normal.
There are several workgroups and websites devoted to the subject and
by far the easier way is to either run it under a Thai fully enabled
windows (which I have really not used myself recently) OR to run it
with a small switcher.
Local foreigners, ie most of our customers will want an English/German
or whatever windows but NOT thai.
Unless there is a secretary/girlfriend on the system...
Example: this morning I got a French Swiss system, main problem I didnt
have a suitable keyboard  but he also wanted Thai

99% of our users are non Thai anyway, and the only requirment
is really a decent non proportional font  as they would have the
switcher on their system anyway, for Word or whatever.
And if they are Thai, windows should take care of it.


Other category customers we have are japanese/chinese email requirements under
English windows...
Without having to setup Japanese or chinese windows on a separate
drive...


Alexander> SY, Alex
Alexander> (St.Petersburg, Russia)



Best regards,
 
tracer

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Re[2]: %ATTACHMENTS: doesnt show files attached

[tracer]

Monday, October 18, 1999

Hello Thomas,

Monday, Monday, October 18, 1999, you wrote:

Thomas> Hi tracer,

Thomas> on Monday, October 18, 1999, 2:09:10 PM, tracer wrote:

t>> problem: use below shown macro but when attaching whatever I do, %ATTACHMENTS
t>> seems to always generate "none" as result.
t>> Any idea how to fix?

Thomas> I'm not sure, but I think this macro is only for the print-templates.

It doesnt say that anywhere... I thought it was a nice way to get a
list of what files are attached but sofar nothing

Wouldnt it help if maybe the helpfiles / docs could be improved?

Anyway, I am fairly sure I can generate proper Thai with that DB font.
The switcher seems to produce different symbols etc so I think it means
that with that Thai mono font (ie one of the DB fonts I mislaid) it should
produce thai. One of my friends probably has it as he is in graphical
design but he just returned from Singapore with some new hardware and
his designing is better then his hardware knowledge (g)
he is good at it but misses the experience you only get from many
different messed up systems...

Its the famous problem of running out of interupts, usb modems STILL
wanting fake com ports (so what are you saving...), a promise raid
card wanting ONE specific slot on the machine etc etc.

He bought me a replacement modem as well, a proper 56k dual chips and
stuff like that, the wrong version of a set of Linux cd's (Mandrake v6
which I already have..) and a replacement hard disk which they swap in
Singapore but not in Thailand..)

Anyway, what software / products are  you marketing?
And how do you think one can prevent thais not to rip them off as
soon as they see that stuff???
Or some of the foreigners who are also in the fake cd business since
their Thai partners wouldnt know the difference between a music cd and
a sound cd...

If you have a website with the products let me know where it is.


Best regards,
 
tracer

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