Re[2]: Creating a Mailing List ? Killing Dupes

2000-04-04 Thread Douglas Hinds


Hello Januk,

Monday, April 03, 2000, 11:16:27 PM, you wrote:


JA When you hit the delete key, the text is still in your message
JA database. Compress gets rid of that junk.

 Compress does not apply a compression algorithm then.

JA  Correct.  I think most mailers that have this type of feature work
JA  similarly.  I know this is how Netscape Messenger used to work.

JA  Speaking about Netscape messenger, the one thing I miss from that
JA  mailer was in the message editor. The way it handled To,Cc, and Bcc
JA  fields was second to none. The way Netscape has it, you enter one
JA  address per line, and you can specify if it is for the To, CC or BCC
JA  field at anytime.

Right. Each line gives you a menu of choices when you click on the To:
or whatever it is. That's simple and convenient.

JA I think this is the only feature I miss from that program.

There are other things: The message search app lets you find multiple
strings at once, while TB!'s lets you search for one string in several
places. Also, it's way of filing messages in different folders is very
simple and faster. Then too, you can specify you inbox location, and
change it. But you can't give all the attributes to your inbox that TB
lets you do.

While you can get Navigator as a standalone program, Messenger only
comes with the bloated Communicator, and you can't legally get the 128
bit strong encryption with it if you're out of the US or Canada. a,d
the last version I have of it (4.05) was one account at a time.

Calypso's ability to select multiple signatures is nice also, although
I guess TB! can do that via macros (more coded commands).

Douglas

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Re[2]: Creating a Mailing List ? Killing Dupes

2000-04-03 Thread Douglas Hinds


Hello Januk,

Saturday, April 01, 2000, 11:28:08 PM, you wrote:

JA Hello Douglas,

JA Did I accidentally include your address in the To: field?

Correct.

JA I shouldn't have, but if I did, I do apologize.

No need to. I would have gotten it anyway, just like all of TBUDL
since November.

 This may or not be what you want to do (but I think TB - or your
 server - won't let you send a name in the to box without an email
 address also) but:

JA  So long as you have an address in the BCC: field TB will send your
JA  message without complaining.

OK

JA Someone (probably Alexander or Steve) had posted the appropriate
JA section of the RFCs that covers this topic. The Archives should
JA hold that info.

 "The Name of the Mailing List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] might serve your
 purpose. Also: you could make or open an account under the name of the
 list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or whatever domain you
 arrange to use.

JA  I like your idea, "The Name of the Mailing List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] is
JA  a good way to let the recipient know that it is a mailing list, and
JA  if they hit reply, there should be no problems.  Just note that there
JA  probably shouldn't be two  signs.  I'm guessing it was a typo. :)

Correct again.

 Then you could do a kill filter for the copy coming back if you really
 want to. Or, if you're a member of the list yourself, a periodic
 "Killing Dupes" (from the Folder Menu) is all it takes.

JA  Plus the advantage of getting a copy back is that you can check to
JA  make sure everything went out ok. With TB this isn't a very big deal,
JA  unless you are sending out attachments.

Most of my TB! templates insert my address in the bcc box, so I don't
have to look for them in sent. I think I also had a copy filtered to a
self bbc folder on one account, which for some reason prevents it from
being placed in sent.

What I really want is the virtual folder / column feature that TB!2 is
said to have. I want to see it all together as it comes in, without
having to treat it all as one one account. That was the part of
Calypso that I did like, along with being able to pause an account
(not have it download with the rest) by write clicking on it, it's off
line mode was good also, and being able to send a single message from
the outbox by right clicking on it. TB! will send all of them I
believe, unless you open it first.

Otherwise though, Calypso sucks - their tech support is a nightmare
and the Calypso users list receives a message every 4 months. The TB!
multi-lingual message editor is so far above Calypso's that there's no
comparison.

 **Speaking of "Killing Dupes"**: I was doing that a moment ago and hit
 the next one down the list - "Purge and Compress". What does that do?

JA  The Purge part goes through and gets rid of excess messages.  If you
JA  don't have either "Keep messages in database for xx(days)" or
JA  "Maximum number of messages" then Purge does nothing.

Then it did nothing.

JA When you hit the delete key, the text is still in your message
JA database. Compress gets rid of that junk.

Compress does not apply a compression algorithm then.

Thanks for the clear explanations, Januk.



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Re[2]: Creating a Mailing List ?

2000-03-31 Thread Woofie

Howdy Leif,

Saturday, April 01, 2000, 8:20:01 AM, you wrote:

LG Hello Nick, 

LG On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 at 12:06:33 [GMT -0800], you wrote:
NA I've created the Mailing List, and can see where I can enter the
NA comma separated addresses, but in the Properties section, I can't
NA see where I can allocate those addresses to the BCC field. I can
NA only do that on an individual message basis.

NA Can some kind soul point me in the right direction. Thanks so
NA much...


LG Sure, go see the how-to on setting up TB as a mailing list server at:
LG http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/mailing_lists.shtml it's also in the TB
LG Help file under Message Filtering / TB as a mailing list server, but I
LG haven't checked to see if it is the latest version. The one on the web
LG site is however.



LG Leif Gregory 


Thanks Leif..that page explains how to set up a discussion list, but
not how to set up an ordinary mailing list where you want the
recipients' names suppressed and just the name of the list displayed.
The only way I have been able to do it is to put my own address in the
TO line and put everyone else's in the BCC section. This is not the
perfect solution, however, as I do not want an extra copy coming back
to myself.

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Re[2]: Creating a Mailing List ?

2000-03-31 Thread Woofie

Howdy Januk,

Saturday, April 01, 2000, 9:36:11 AM, you wrote:

JA Hello Woofie,


JA On  Friday, March 31, 2000  at  09:30:05 GMT +0800 (which was 5:30 PM
JA where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:


 Thanks Leif..that page explains how to set up a discussion list, but
 not how to set up an ordinary mailing list where you want the
 recipients' names suppressed and just the name of the list displayed.
 The only way I have been able to do it is to put my own address in the
 TO line and put everyone else's in the BCC section. This is not the
 perfect solution, however, as I do not want an extra copy coming back
 to myself.


JA  Have you tried sending out a message with nothing in the To: line,
JA  but at least one address in the BCC line?  It works for me.
 



Thanks Januk:)
That's what I used to do, but it caused a lot of probs for my
recipients, when they did a reply All
I want my recipients to see that the email they receive from me is
a multiple posting to a list of people whose email addies have been
suppressed.

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