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Hello Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer, On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:02:32 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 5:02:32 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer wrote: Clemens Hello tracer, Clemens Sunday, January 16, 2000, 3:01:26 AM, tracer wrote: Clemens so this means, unless I activate the compress thing in the inbox Clemens folder, all mails stay there and are not moved to the other folders? Clemens or do they stay there, and are also copied into the other folders but Clemens not "really" deleted out of the inbox ? Its like removing unwanted books from the library by taking the index cards. There seem to be less but they are still there... Clemens but they must be very big, those indexes ... I mean there is a Clemens difference between 55MB and 314K ^^ My mistakeas my answer wasnt clear.., cards are gone but books still there. Like most filing systems, even normal hard disk. The data doesnt get deleted. Just the index. Its one of the ways they rolled up a drug smugglers operation years ago as they had their data/addresses in a Psion organiser. They managed to delete the data but that didnt mean it wasnt there... Its also the reason that when a filing system gets a problem the sooner fixed the better as one can reorder a few mislaid cards by checking where they belong but if you dump the box on the floor you got a life long job... well known example is the scandisk or equivalent wanting to check your disk after a bad shutdown. Let it do it. Just zap what it says is mixed up. Normally all is ok after that as all that gets zapped are incomplete files. if you donot and it gets reused in places where the OS thinks there is no data you get a real problem... Clemens Best regards, Clemens Clemens written with TheBat! 1.38e Clemens on Windows 98, 4 10 Clemens Build A Clemens on Monday, January 17, 2000 at 11:02:05 PM Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.39 Beta/1 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: ERROR ... please help ...
Hello Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer, On Sun, 16 Jan 2000 11:37:06 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Sunday, January 16, 2000, 5:37:06 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer wrote: Clemens Hello Marck, Clemens Saturday, January 15, 2000, 8:10:01 PM, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: CGS do they stay there, and are also copied into the other folders CGS but not "really" deleted out of the inbox ? Exactly that. They stay there, marked as deleted and are never seen again. The solution is to activate the "Compress folder on exit" setting of the Folder options. Clemens Actually I would have to activate this in every Folder I do have some Clemens filters in ... NO, you should do it in every folder AND the bat should tell you when it reaches a certain % thats its wise to do so Clemens Best regards, Clemens Clemens written with TheBat! 1.38e Clemens on Windows 98, 4 10 Clemens Build A Clemens on Sunday, January 16, 2000 at 11:36:41 AM Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.39 Beta/1 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: ERROR ... please help ...
Hello Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer, On Sat, 15 Jan 2000 17:47:08 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Saturday, January 15, 2000, 11:47:08 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer wrote: Clemens so this means, unless I activate the compress thing in the inbox Clemens folder, all mails stay there and are not moved to the other folders? Clemens or do they stay there, and are also copied into the other folders but Clemens not "really" deleted out of the inbox ? Its like removing unwanted books from the library by taking the index cards. There seem to be less but they are still there... Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.39 Beta/1 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: ERROR ... please help ...
Hello Steve Lamb, On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 08:26:51 -0800 GMT your local time, which was Friday, January 14, 2000, 11:26:51 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Steve Lamb wrote: Steve Friday, January 14, 2000, 8:17:33 AM, Clemens wrote: nono, cause the whole mail size of this directory was TO big. And I don't think you can comrpess 55MB to 340K ^^ and 54 mails each about 2-20K can never need 55MB!! Steve Was it the inbox? You are aware that any message you ever got and Steve filtered elsewhere is in the inbox until you compress it? "Compress" here Steve means removing the entries marked "Deleted" from the database. All mail is Steve filed in the inbox *before* it is filtered. It is then filtered and, if Steve needed, marked as deleted. Correct Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.39 Beta/1 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: ERROR ... please help ...
Hello Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer, On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:17:33 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Friday, January 14, 2000, 11:17:33 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer wrote: Clemens Hello tracer, Clemens Thursday, January 13, 2000, 5:33:36 PM, tracer wrote: Clemens well the second thing is ... I was puzzled WHY it was SO big ... I Clemens only have 54 files in it and neither of them is bigger then 10K ... so Clemens I created a temporary dir, moved them there and moved them back and Clemens voila suddenly it was onyl 340K bit ... my whole mail stuff from is Clemens 150 MB ... but this includes about 14000 mails ... maybe the box was never compressed, and then it will likely take up more space then it should 'saved' but also when used... And that might have broken some limit with a hang etc etc. Clemens nono, cause the whole mail size of this directory was TO big. And I Clemens don't think you can comrpess 55MB to 340K ^^ and 54 mails each about Clemens 2-20K can never need 55MB!! I mean you may still have empty space from deleted emails in that box. Not compressing the mail but getting rid also of all the empty space. Clemens but since today I started to make a daily backup ... you never know, Clemens when you might need it ... I can tell you when you need it, thats a certainty... Guranteed when you damage the original(g) Clemens well right now, everything works fine ... Clemens Best regards, Clemens Clemens written with TheBat! 1.38e Clemens on Windows 98, 4 10 Clemens Build A Clemens on Friday, January 14, 2000 at 5:15:57 PM Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.39 Beta/1 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: ERROR ... please help ...
Hello Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer, On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:47:09 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, January 13, 2000, 9:47:09 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer wrote: Clemens well the second thing is ... I was puzzled WHY it was SO big ... I Clemens only have 54 files in it and neither of them is bigger then 10K ... so Clemens I created a temporary dir, moved them there and moved them back and Clemens voila suddenly it was onyl 340K bit ... my whole mail stuff from is Clemens 150 MB ... but this includes about 14000 mails ... maybe the box was never compressed, and then it will likely take up more space then it should 'saved' but also when used... And that might have broken some limit with a hang etc etc. Clemens but since today I started to make a daily backup ... you never know, Clemens when you might need it ... I can tell you when you need it, thats a certainty... Guranteed when you damage the original(g) Clemens Best regards, Clemens Clemens written with TheBat! 1.38e Clemens on Windows 98, 4 10 Clemens Build A Clemens on Thursday, January 13, 2000 at 3:45:18 PM Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.39 Beta/1 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: ERROR ... please help ...
Hello Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer, On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 20:33:55 +0100 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, January 13, 2000, 2:33:55 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer wrote: Clemens Hello tracer, Clemens Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 5:32:50 AM, tracer wrote: Clemens Suddenly the bat gave me an error, that there would be a problem Clemens with my inbox and there is one file left there called bad4141.TMP Clemens ... how can I repeair it ... please it's my inbox!!! help me!! if the mentioned repair utility doesnt work... 1. try copy to a different name first 2. try opening with quickview plus or anything suitable, hex editor?? to see if there is any data in it if there is no data in that file, there is nothing to recover. If there is, several tools exist to get your data out but likely not to another inbox. More importantly, WHY did this happen. Did you have a system crash? Enough ram??? Clemens First, I today, reapaired it myself. I just renamed that file to the Clemens message file and voila I have my inbox back. You are lucky and I would recommend creating some folders and split that mail up.. I know I can loose a mailbox but I will likely never lose all unless I delete them.. You may have run out of memory, or some other resource related problem so the bat may have stopped and grabbed whatever it had and saved it off as temp file. It also means I guess you may have lost some mail if you are unlucky An inbox of 54 mb is a bit dangerous... Clemens previous errors ? none, I just started the bat and there the error Clemens came. It's very strange. btw, the .tmp file had the size of 54 MB ... Clemens Best regards, Clemens Clemens written with TheBat! 1.38e Clemens on Windows 98, 4 10 Clemens Build A Clemens on Wednesday, January 12, 2000 at 8:32:52 PM Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.39 Beta/1 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: ERROR ... please help ...
Hello Nick, I can't remember where I saw it but I think there is a mailbox rebuild program someplace. I had an error too, said something about the index. I can't find it again. Sorry, not more help.. --- Thanks, John Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 2:23:32 PM, you wrote: NA On Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 1:58:46 PM, Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer wrote: Hello The Bat! ML, Suddenly the bat gave me an error, that there would be a problem with my inbox and there is one file left there called bad4141.TMP ... how can I repeair it ... please it's my inbox!!! help me!! NA Sorry I can't help you out with your problem, but I noticed that your NA message appeared with a red coloured message flag. This is the first time NA I've seen that... does anyone know why it would have that red colour? NA Nick NA --- NA -=Nick Andriash=- NA MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NA MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NA PGP Keys available from KeyServers NA --- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: ERROR ... please help ...
Hello Mark, Your info brings up a question of mine. Does the program compress the messages files at anytime? When messages are deleted, those holes in the database could very well lead to trouble. Is there a compress, re index, backup routine anyplace and if not would it be a feature for 1.4, 2.0 and so forth? --- Thanks, John Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 2:22:09 PM, you wrote: MW Hi Clemens - MW Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 3:58:46 PM, you wrote: CGS Hello The Bat! ML, CGS Suddenly the bat gave me an error, that there would be a problem CGS with my inbox and there is one file left there called bad4141.TMP CGS ... how can I repeair it ... please it's my inbox!!! help me!! MW mbrepair.zip is at MW http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/mbrepair.zip MWUse this doctor utility to convert your broken message base file to a MWUNIX mailbox and then import this mailbox using Tools/Import Messages. MWNote: This doctor does not fix message bases with a password. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: ERROR ... please help ...
Hello Nick Andriash, On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:23:32 -0800 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, January 12, 2000, 5:23:32 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Nick Andriash wrote: Nick On Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 1:58:46 PM, Clemens 'Gullevek' Schwaighofer wrote: Hello The Bat! ML, Suddenly the bat gave me an error, that there would be a problem with my inbox and there is one file left there called bad4141.TMP ... how can I repeair it ... please it's my inbox!!! help me!! Nick Sorry I can't help you out with your problem, but I noticed that your Nick message appeared with a red coloured message flag. This is the first time Nick I've seen that... does anyone know why it would have that red colour? URGENT flag. My Expartner used it on all his mails but it didnt help, for me it was the red flag to put it aside till I was in the mood to read another rude msg... Nick Nick Nick --- Nick -=Nick Andriash=- Nick MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Nick MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Nick PGP Keys available from KeyServers Nick --- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.39 Beta/1 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
