Re[2]: Flying bats, have some rest please.

2001-02-26 Thread Jonas T Larsson

Centuries ago Nostradamus foresaw that Lars would write the
following on Sun, 25 Feb 2001 21:24:53 [GMT +0100]:

 The icon animation would be a lot more useful if it did
 actually work in the way you suggest. One possibility would be
 for the icon to animate only if there are new messages since
 the last time TB had focus. Perhaps the developers will take
 notice

Let me add a wish here. In order to make the flapping useful for me it is
necessary to be able to exclude folders/trees from the indicator, the
usefulness of the indicator reaches zero otherwise when you are
subscribing to a high-volume mailing list like TBUDL. (Marking your
messages as read is not a viable option just for this little benefit)

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Re[2]: Flying bats, have some rest please.

2001-02-26 Thread Jonas T Larsson

Centuries ago Nostradamus foresaw that Marck would write the
following on Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:26:59 [GMT +]:

 Alternatively turn off animation completely and turn on the ticker,
 enable the age limit, exclude list folders from inclusion, turn off
 auto-zoom, shrink it (by dragging the edge of ticker) then move it so
 that it's only just visible off the edge/top/bottom/corner of the
 screen. There you go. An indicator that only lights up when there's
 new mail :-) in non-list folders.

This is exactly what I am doing at the moment so I have no problem with
doing what I want, but since I rarely/never open any messages from the
ticker the flapping bat would just be a bit slicker IMHO.

 These are just illustrations that there are ways of achieving the
 effect that won't deprive users of functionality that is clearly
 wanted the way it is by some and "the way Becky does it" by others. I
 want it the way it is. Yes, it's a matter of taste, but WADR it's a
 lot of work and quite a fundamental change to the software (IMHO - as
 a software engineer) for a dab of "icing on the cake".

 I certainly wouldn't want the programmers not to be working on v2 to
 be implementing such a change in v1. Of course, if the suggestion has
 merit in the eyes of RITlabs, then perhaps they can bear it in mind
 for v2.

I agree with you completely on this one, this was never intended to be a
childs cry for "more toys momma" :-) And you might well be right in that
it is a lot of work. My original idea was that you could substitute
and/or use it concurrently with the popping up of the ticker just by a
choice in the preferences.

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Re[2]: Flying bats, have some rest please.

2001-02-25 Thread Dave Braze

Hello Lars,



Sunday, February 25, 2001, 1:27:50 PM, you wrote:

LG So you say that the flapping wings of the bat will attract
LG attention? You see, that's exactly what they are made for. The
LG flapping wings are supposed to draw the user's attention to the
LG fact that there are new messages

Actually the icon animation draws attention to the fact that there are
UNREAD messages, which is not quite the same thing, especially if, like me,
you tend to not read all messages as soon as they come in.

The icon animation would be a lot more useful if it did actually work in the
way you suggest. One possibility would be for the icon to animate only if
there are new messages since the last time TB had focus. Perhaps the
developers will take notice

Best regards,
 Dave

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Re[2]: Flying bats, have some rest please.

2001-02-25 Thread jlaikan

Hello Ming-Li  Lars

Sunday, February 25, 2001, 9:36:35 PM, Ming-Li wrote:


   (it flaps only when there's new
ML mail), a clever design IMO.

That's something I just learned from you. Thanks for the info.



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Re[2]: Flying bats, have some rest please.

2001-02-25 Thread jlaikan

Hello Ming-Li,

Sunday, February 25, 2001, 9:36:35 PM, you wrote:

ML On Sunday, February 25, 2001, 8:26:44 AM, jlaikan wrote:

 Without offense to you I don't see where my message has been
 st..id . What I said is that the logo's animation gives the
 impression of some advertising going on.

ML I don't think your message was stupid

If someone can appreciate and chooses a program like the Bat!,we should
think twice before qualifying him/her or his/her questions as stupid.


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Re[2]: Flying bats, have some rest please.

2001-02-25 Thread jlaikan

Hello Ming-Li,

Sunday, February 25, 2001, 9:36:35 PM, you wrote:

ML On Sunday, February 25, 2001, 8:26:44 AM, jlaikan wrote:

 Without offense to you I don't see where my message has been
 st..id . What I said is that the logo's animation gives the
 impression of some advertising going on.

ML I don't think your message was stupid

Personally,I would think twice before qualifying someone or his/her
messages as stupid if he/she can appreciate and has chosen a great program like the 
Bat!.


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Re[2]: Flying bats, have some rest please.

2001-02-24 Thread jlaikan

Hello Thomas,

Saturday, February 24, 2001, 9:17:23 PM, you wrote:

T Hallo jlaikan,

T On Sat, 24 Feb 2001 19:16:45 +0400 GMT (24/02/2001, 23:16 +0800 GMT),
T jlaikan wrote:

j I understand  that the flying Bats on the task bar and on the inactive
j title bar are the program's logo. However I find that they attract too much
j attention, therefore distract too much. We also get the impression
j that the Bat! is a sort of freeware sponsored by advertising (all
j those flashy animations). Is there a way to get those bats rest a bit?

T You have already been advise how to disable the animation. However, I
T don't quite get the logic that it gives the impression of being
T adware. Advertising for itself, and being freeware at the same time?
T Where would the money come from?


Hello,
I take the opportunity to thank all those who have replied to this
question and to all the others I posted here.

In fact I was mistaken about the terms. I referred to those softwares
that are supported by advertising and not to freewares. Therefore if the
Bat! advertised for itself and is not a freeware, where would the
money come from? Well first, from those who have purchased the Bat! and
secondly from those who will purchase it on seeing the advert (the
flying bat).Subtle marketing or small puzzle from Stefan?

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