Re: "reply-to-group" template broken by comma in name
Hallo MFPA, On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 13:17:36 +GMT (15-2-2007, 14:17 +0100, where I live), you wrote: M> Is there any downside to putting the name in quotes? No. -- Groetjes, Roelof Pardon me, I'm a beta tester for a designer drug lab. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.96.04 (BETA) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp4jprg1SNfL.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "reply-to-group" template broken by comma in name
Hi On Thursday 15 February 2007 at 2:57:27 AM, in , Roelof Otten wrote: > Just take care that the name part (including the comma) is between > quotation marks, so your mail is addressed to: > "Firstname Lastname, LETTERS on group name" > You can achieve that by changing your QT to: > "%OFromName on %- > %setpattregexp=#(.*?)[EMAIL PROTECTED] > %RegExpBlindMatch=#%OReplyAddr#%- > %Upper='%SubPatt=#1#'" <%OReplyAddr> Thanks, Roelof. Have implemented that successfully. Is there any downside to putting the name in quotes? I ask because a search on 'Recipient contains " ' finds just 25 messages out of over 45000 -- Best regards, MFPA War is a matter of vital importance to the State. Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "reply-to-group" template broken by comma in name
Hallo MFPA, On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 02:39:20 +GMT (15-2-2007, 3:39 +0100, where I live), you wrote: M> The comma causes a problem: I get a dialogue box saying M> "Message has not been sent. Server reply - Invalid email address." M> Anybody else encountered this or got any thoughts on a (simple) M> workaround - other than manually delete the comma? Just take care that the name part (including the comma) is between quotation marks, so your mail is addressed to: "Firstname Lastname, LETTERS on group name" You can achieve that by changing your QT to: "%OFromName on %- %setpattregexp=#(.*?)[EMAIL PROTECTED] %RegExpBlindMatch=#%OReplyAddr#%- %Upper='%SubPatt=#1#'" <%OReplyAddr> -- Groetjes, Roelof (A)bort (R)etry (I)nfluence with a large hammer http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.96.04 (BETA) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpaQqCKuIvva.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
"reply-to-group" template broken by comma in name
Hi I am using the QT below in my "reply to group" templates. [Begin QT] %OFROMNAME on %- %setpattregexp=#(.*?)[EMAIL PROTECTED] %RegExpBlindMatch=#%OReplyAddr#%- %UPPER="%SubPatt=#1#" <%OREPLYADDR> [End QT] I forget who I copied this from but up to now it has worked like a charm. However, a recent member on one group styles himself as "Firstname Lastname, LETTERS " which means my reply is addressed to "Firstname Lastname, LETTERS on group name ". The comma causes a problem: I get a dialogue box saying "Message has not been sent. Server reply - Invalid email address." Anybody else encountered this or got any thoughts on a (simple) workaround - other than manually delete the comma? -- Best regards, MFPA A bird in the hand makes it awfully hard to blow your nose Using The Bat! v3.80.06 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply To Group
On Mon 17 October 2005, 08:23:40 +1000, Roelof wrote: JG>> Is there a way for a filter of some sort to change the reply-to JG>> address so I can have it automatically amended on receipt? > <...snip...> > Another option would be to use a proxy server that changes the header > for you. I could make my mail server do this for myself, but I don't > suppose you're running your own mail server. X-Ray Mail Assistant (www.xrayapp.com) will run as a proxy and do this for you. -- Robin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply To Group
Hallo Jeff, On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:53:19 +0100GMT (17-10-2005, 0:53 +0200, where I live), you wrote: >> It's a matter of principle for some mailing list keepers to change as >> little as possible (including the Reply-To: header) in the original >> message before sending it through. JG> I think that's what I've run into :-) That's what I gathered from your reply to Robert. >> I strongly suggest you do this just for the reply template, not for >> the new message folder template as that's bound to embarrass you when >> you forget you're in in that particular folder. A reply template is >> relatively save. JG> I added: JG> %TO="" JG> %TO="the old codgers list" JG> in the reply template and just sent my first reply, have to see where JG> it ends up :-) I guess that would do the trick. >> In order to get replies to your messages back to that list, just set >> your own Reply-To: header to the list address. JG> Funnily enough I did that for this list but changed both the 'from' JG> and 'Reply-To' fields, go a nasty email from a robot telling me I JG> wasn't authorised to send emails to the list :-) Ouch! You should not alter your from address. The Reply-To: and the From: header are unrelated headers, you can alter one and leave the other alone. They don't have to be the same, even more so: when they are the same you don't need the Reply-To: header. Basically would you should do is to use the from address you're supposed to do and to set the reply-to to the list address. There are lists that only insert a reply-to when you don't include it yourself, so without your reply-to the reply-to is set to the list and with your reply-to they leave it alone. This is with the idea that you can indicate where replies to your message should go. The purest form simply refuses to add 'unnecessary' headers to the list messages. Both ideas come from the idea that you should be able to pick the address for your reply yourself and otherwise you shouldn't be allowed to run on the internet without a leash. -- Groetjes, Roelof Windows: written entirely by and for blondes The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpDwtQ70ZejK.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Reply To Group
Hello Group, On Sunday, October 16, 2005, 11:11:22 PM, Roelof wrote: > It's a matter of principle for some mailing list keepers to change as > little as possible (including the Reply-To: header) in the original > message before sending it through. I think that's what I've run into :-) > I strongly suggest you do this just for the reply template, not for > the new message folder template as that's bound to embarrass you when > you forget you're in in that particular folder. A reply template is > relatively save. I added: %TO="" %TO="the old codgers list" in the reply template and just sent my first reply, have to see where it ends up :-) > In order to get replies to your messages back to that list, just set > your own Reply-To: header to the list address. Funnily enough I did that for this list but changed both the 'from' and 'Reply-To' fields, go a nasty email from a robot telling me I wasn't authorised to send emails to the list :-) -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply To Group
Hallo Jeff, On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:13:39 +0100GMT (17-10-2005, 0:13 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JG> Is there a way for a filter of some sort to change the reply-to JG> address so I can have it automatically amended on receipt? I guess you could create a filter that forwards list messages to yourself with a template that doesn't change the message, but alters the Reply-To: header. Another option would be to use a proxy server that changes the header for you. I could make my mail server do this for myself, but I don't suppose you're running your own mail server. -- Groetjes, Roelof Veni, Vidi, VISA. (I came, I saw, I went shopping) The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpDtevwvOD16.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Reply To Group
Hello Group, On Sunday, October 16, 2005, 11:01:57 PM, Robert wrote: > Recently, Jeff Gaines squawked: >> Is there a way in a mailing list such as this to ensure that a reply >> goes to the group? > Aside from what A. Kunz mentioned, I put a line similar to the > following, in the reply template OF the List address book entry: > %TO=""%TO="LGD-List<%OTOADDR>"%CC=""%- > because, in their case, to hit reply always sent one direct to the OP > and one to the list, and it aggravated me to no end. I will need to work through that to understand it :-) I made the suggestion in the other list about 'reply-to' and I've stirred up an old hornets' nest :-( Is there a way for a filter of some sort to change the reply-to address so I can have it automatically amended on receipt? -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply To Group
Hallo Jeff, On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 20:39:26 +0100GMT (16-10-2005, 21:39 +0200, where I live), you wrote: JG> Is there a way in a mailing list such as this to ensure that a reply JG> goes to the group? JG> In another mailing list I subscribe to I have now replied 3 times to JG> an individual rather than the group and it's getting a bit JG> embarrassing! It's a matter of principle for some mailing list keepers to change as little as possible (including the Reply-To: header) in the original message before sending it through. Presuming that you're filtering the messages of that list to their own folder you could modify the reply template for that folder to set the list as recipient, note that this might have unpleasant results when you want to reply via private mail. I strongly suggest you do this just for the reply template, not for the new message folder template as that's bound to embarrass you when you forget you're in in that particular folder. A reply template is relatively save. In order to get replies to your messages back to that list, just set your own Reply-To: header to the list address. -- Groetjes, Roelof It takes about ten years to get used to how old you are. The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpOs4BwHHACJ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply To Group
Recently, Jeff Gaines squawked: > Is there a way in a mailing list such as this to ensure that a reply > goes to the group? Aside from what A. Kunz mentioned, I put a line similar to the following, in the reply template OF the List address book entry: %TO=""%TO="LGD-List<%OTOADDR>"%CC=""%- because, in their case, to hit reply always sent one direct to the OP and one to the list, and it aggravated me to no end. -- Bye Now, Robert D. _ The Bat! Version: 3.61.11 Echo (Beta) Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply To Group
Hello Jeff Gaines & everyone else, on 16-Okt-2005 at 21:39 you (Jeff Gaines) wrote: > In another mailing list I subscribe to I have now replied 3 times to an > individual rather than the group and it's getting a bit embarrassing! It depends on the settings of the mailinglist. If the mailinglist program is configured to NOT alter or SET the "reply-to" header, the reply will go to the original sender. This is the default setting for a mailinglist of the "announce" type. Mailing lists like TBUDL are "discussion" lists, they are configured to re-write any reply-to header to the list-address. When you use the reply function, the address from the reply-to header is used. If I were you, I'd talk to the list owner of the list in question. If it is a discussion list, he/she should really configure the list to set the reply-to header to the list address. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Da kleckst ein Typ eine rote Linie mit zwei schwarzen Punkten auf eine Leinwand, behauptet, das würde für das Universum stehen, und ein Haufen intellektueller Idioten mit ihren Capuccinos diskutiert fünf Stunden lang darüber. (Billy Bob Thornton) Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Reply To Group
Hello Group, Is there a way in a mailing list such as this to ensure that a reply goes to the group? In another mailing list I subscribe to I have now replied 3 times to an individual rather than the group and it's getting a bit embarrassing! -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK Current version is 3.60.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
